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@bozz ·
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I have a friend like that.  It is pretty sad but I basically grew up with him and I don't really talk to him that much anymore.  There was just too much unspoken judgement in the air.  I don't need that kind of stuff in my life.  Then a mutual friend of ours had gone through a divorce and was getting married.  His apprehension at my friend getting remarried because he had "promised himself" to his first wife kind of sealed the deal for me.  I can't tell you the last time I have seen him.  Maybe he has grown since then, who knows.  I hope so.
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@church-of-god ·
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@erh.germany · (edited)
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Couldn't it also be that the guy offered you an excellent opportunity to laugh at his renewed approach to fool you? If someone has fooled you once or twice, what do you tell them the third time? Here's how I see it: if someone is fooling himself because he believes in something he really wants to believe in, and he makes a business proposition to you and that belief falls apart, and then he tests the water again, how about hitting him on the shoulder and laughing with him? In your mutual recognition - one player recognizes the other - there is no need for reproach. Didn't you say that it happens to you, too, to have tested the limits of another? 

How would it be to get in touch with the irreducible rascal within yourself and say: HaHa, this guy has got some nerve! No, don't bother. Without me this time. But good luck to you! 

Are we not fools surrounded by fools? :D

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@gangstalking ·
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@kimberlylane ·
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Boundaries and betrayal as lessons, hmmm. Yes, I've also been experiencing much in these areas and as I told you two who've been very important in my life seem now not to be, or the relationship is no longer as close as you mention with this man you're venting about.  I was more reactive to those two and in situations than I am now, but I think it takes a lot of time and like anything continues--meaning the lessons and challenges continue coming our way, perhaps through different people?
I suppose I know when something no longer has a claw in me (I've learned my lesson--in a good way) is when I can observe (in a very calm way), really see and hear the other and where they're operating from and have compassion for them as another human/spirit, but also no longer allow (or even perhaps engage in) the tearing down of my spirit. There is no need to explain this to a person who isn't meeting you at the same open level.  But, for me, though I may not be engaging, I am open to their growth and perhaps a return even if that is unlikely.
Betrayal seems to let us know when our own vibration/way of operating is not being met by the other, ie we are not being seen, heard, considered.  But, I am not here to offer advise, only to commiserate and share, say it's been a struggle for me as well and also getting better at allowing myself that same compassion you write about above, that I'm operating in each moment truthfully to my full capabilities  and until I really do believe that I've found I can and will continue to be triggered by the same situations/scenarios.  Especially, when it comes so close to a lover and the ways in which we've opened to them. 
Plus, I think you're right that many just want to fix/solve things and or project onto you.  Probably this man's judgment of you is more a reflection of what he doesn't allow in himself more than it's anything about you personally. 
Take or leave what you choose~  And, thanks for the video introductions to HD
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@rok-sivante · (edited)
>meaning the lessons and challenges continue coming our way, perhaps through different people?

Certainly. Sometimes different lessons through different people, sometimes the same lessons - whether they need a repeat or retest.

>I suppose I know when something no longer has a claw in me (I've learned my lesson--in a good way) is when I can observe (in a very calm way), really see and hear the other and where they're operating from and have compassion for them as another human/spirit, but also no longer allow (or even perhaps engage in) the tearing down of my spirit. There is no need to explain this to a person who isn't meeting you at the same open level. 

Sounds like an excellent indicator of being on the right track.

>Betrayal seems to let us know when our own vibration/way of operating is not being met by the other, ie we are not being seen, heard, considered. 

Perhaps sometimes. I'd imagine there are alot of different scenarios with different dynamics, this being one. Another that came to mind while reading this - and in the situation with my acquaintance - is that "betrayal" more a subjective experience as a consequence of unrealistic expectations...

One of Cory's most powerful teachings on the Formula For Truth was regarding relationships and how there's actual *fields* - a whole actual mathematic and metaphysical side to it all - whereby a person fits into the wider circumference of a total stranger we don't even know exists, further into the center as someone we know exists but don't know personally, further inwards to an acquaintance, then inwards into a friend, and then finally, in the smallest radius, a best friend. And, there's an actual process through which a person needs to move through these fields to have the relationship maintain stability, as in building rapport, trust, etc. Commonly, people will treat others they just met like friends - but it's mechanically a recipe for disaster, because the relationship's programming is actually at an acquaintance level...

Thus, alot of experience of "betrayal" comes when we *thought* we were closer with a person that we actually were *energetically,* exposed too much information, and it was used against us - as people in the *friends* field commonly do, simply by consequence of the nature of the field; whereas such information was actually only suitable to be shared with the rare best friend, where the level of trust was already built.

Really fascinating stuff. I wish he still had it up publicly available, as is some of the best content on social dynamics I've ever come across. This brief description barely does  it justice. 

*And then...* there are probably some other occasions, too, where there actually **is** a vibrational match on *some* level - perhaps such the cases where a person has low self-esteem or negative expectations, and then ends up manifesting/attracting circumstances that validate an unconscious belief system that they would be betrayed.

Though in *any* case, I suppose there may be an element of truth to your perspective offered - the experience being feedback to let us simply know there's a misalignment, whether that be a matter of its the *other* person who's out of integrity, it's *ourselves* that was out of alignment and thus attracting a less-than-great experience, or some combination of both.

> it's been a struggle for me as well and also getting better at allowing myself that same compassion you write about above, that I'm operating in each moment truthfully to my full capabilities and until I really do believe that I've found I can and will continue to be triggered by the same situations/scenarios. Especially, when it comes so close to a lover and the ways in which we've opened to them.

Definitely primary lessons in Life School. And of course, always the biggest challenges in the most intimate relationships.

>Probably this man's judgment of you is more a reflection of what he doesn't allow in himself more than it's anything about you personally.

I'm not sure how much is a reflection/projection, though I definitely don't take it personally. From what I knew of him before and recognizing patterns - many of which, I can see more clearly because I've had experience with them myself, particularly in the not-self of the open ajna center with the compulsivity towards *certainty* - I think it's more just of a "know it all" complex, like he's operating from a particular belief system he learned in Landmark Education, and there's some part of him that's had difficulty assessing that it was a time and place where it would've been more appropriate to engage in the conversation as a compassionate friend than try retain the position of some expert business guru, approaching everything from some dogmatic structure. Guess can never totally know for sure.

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*Your welcome.*

It's always a pleasure to pass the torch... 😇💗
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@kimberlylane ·
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Thanks for the description of the relational fields.  I think I do share much with people and many find it easy to talk with me.  Also, I write quite confessional things and so perhaps there is some oversharing.  As the 4/1, even though I know very little about HD, I heard I am not meant to change, but be who I am, a bridge builder, so this seems a tricky area in that regard.  At least somewhat a blind spot for me, or I'm not sure how to alter, besides give it my all and hope the other is capable/willing to put forth a similar effort.
This kind of discussion can go into loops fast :)
As far as knowing with certainty, today is an odd feeling day for me, one in which I feel humbled by life and like I have no answers.
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