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The State of Anarchism
# The State of Anarchism
The continuing ideological battle that has been ongoing for the past century or so has led to the creation of many different ideas of how society should run. Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Democracy, Dictatorship, Monarchy and so on. A particular group of people decided that society would be best governed by itself, meaning no government at all. This ideology is also known as ***Anarchism.***
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# What is Anarchism?

**Defintion:** *Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions.*
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# Where Did Anarchism Come From?
Technically, Anarchism has been around since the beginning of Humankind, however it was first given named as an ideology by Frenchman, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon in 1840. Most people don't look at Anarchism as a system that works, but you only need to look back through history to see that Anarchism was in fact the basis of all modern civilizations. Before anyone took control of a society, such as a Monarch or a Government, the society was already built, and it was built without any means of political control, therefore being Anarchist. The Capitalist theory of the "invisible hand" is a good way of explaining this. The social order that occurred in these Ancient Anarchist society's was there because of the people's habit of trading with one another, therefore creating an economy which, with no government restrictions, was able to grow, quickly.

***The Invisible Hand:*** *an economy can work well in a free market scenario where everyone will work for his/her own interest.*

# The Different Types of Anarchism
There are many different types of Anarchism around, some don't make any sense whatsoever, and some seem to be sensible. Here they are:

# Anarcho-Communism, Anarcho-Collectivism, Anarcho-Syndicalism, Social-Anarchism:
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Anarcho-communism (also known as anarchist communism, free communism, libertarian communism and communist anarchism, is a theory of anarchism which advocates the abolition of the state, capitalism, wage labour and private property (while retaining respect for personal property) in favor of common ownership of the means of production, direct democracy and a horizontal network of workers' councils with production and consumption based on the guiding principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

These forms of Anarchism, I don't really see as Anarchism. It's principals are that of a Communist, an ideology which promotes a massive government, and no private business or work. While Anarcho-Communism says that it will abolish the state, the end result of any Collectivist ideal is a big central power, and we can't have that now can we?

This ideology is most notably supported by radical leftist groups such as Anti-fa, who use the Anarcho-Communist flag as their representing symbol.
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# Anarcho-Capitalism, Crypto-Anarchism:
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advocates the elimination of the state in favor of self-ownership, private property, and free markets. Anarcho-capitalists hold that, in the absence of statute (law by centralized decrees and legislation), society tends to contractually self-regulate and civilize through the discipline of the free market (in what its proponents describe as a "voluntary society").

True Anarchism? I think so! These two ideologies promote the complete abolition of the state and the promotion of free-trade and open-markets. Many people believe that these forms of Anarchism also represent the true meaning of Capitalism, with their being no government regulation's that may hinder the growth of an economy (regulations: minimum wage, taxes, tariffs etc). This Anarchism also represents complete decentralization of all things, something that is strongly represented in steemit.

This ideology is strongly supported by many libertarian's. Someone who explains it really well is Youtuber *Stefan Molyneux*.

# Meme Ideologies?
There are many other forms of Anarchism, many of which seem to be a joke so I will not go into them, however I will list them below if you are curious:
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# What Do You Think?
Reply to this article to let me know about your thoughts on Anarchism!
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Sources:

Anarchist ideology table: https://www.crowdfreedom.com/different-types-anarchism
Stefan Molyneux Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC3L8QaxqEGUiBC252GHy3w
Some basic definitions from wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism
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@chamberpunk ·
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I have some qualms with this.

Anarchy doesn't mean no government, it's better defined as a different form of organization.(be warned I'm a left anarchist)
Proudhon, the first anarchist, defines anarchism as,"A none-hierarchical form of organizing society"

i'm not a Mutualist(the economics thought of Proudhon) actually, i'm closer to Bookchin then anyone.

Your understanding of "the left" is literally not correct. It's not Collectivist vs Individualist. 
Capitalism is still collectivist.

a business, that's a collective, because a collective is a group of individuals.

See where your logic is folly.

the left, wants to use the surplus of industry, to enrich the many.

The right wants to use the surplus of industry to enrich a few.

there is a lot more nuance then you have given.

There will never be a strictly individualist society, but if we want a certain freedom of the individual we must take measures to change the super structure of society, to give MORE rights to the people.

Like, health care, education, food etc.

Let me explain my reasoning because I have a feeling this will probably fall on deaf ears if I don't.

Right, restricted access to the necessities of life are caused by economic hierarchy. In turn your freedom must be given up to work for the profit of some private person. Most of the surplus goes to the capitalists. Private property is theft, because the collective worked to create the surplus, and then a few people get the cash. 

If you are a real anarchist and want to oppose hierarchy and give people actual freedom, you ease the burden of wage-slavery.

So instead of allowing the surplus of society to go to the private owners of industry, you socialize the surplus and us it to better society. 

In Bookchins thought this is organize through something called,"Democratic federation" 

Look, you need to read actual anarchist texts before you fall for the disinformation propagated by the ruling class.


One more thing I'd like to point out. The red and black flag is the flag of the CNT, which were syndicalists, not communist. You don't know the history of anarchism.

Even the word libertarian came from the LEFT.

Anarcho-capitialism isn't making capitalism better, you're making anarchism worse, because you take 200 years of thought, read none of it, then claim your part of the movement.
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@sailormann ·
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I see you've put a lot of effort into this reply, and I appreciate that!

You say that capitalism enriches a few, and that "socialism" or whatever you want to call it, enriches the many. I can see that you believe in redistribution of wealth. Through this, I see that you have a misunderstanding of what capitalism is, and that you are also very opinionated about it.

1) Capitalism does not enrich a few, but it provides an opportunity to everyone for them to become richer than the rest of society. In Capitalism, the rich can get richer, but the poor are much better off.

2) You mention "wage-slavery". In a capitalist society, their are employers and employees. It is very easy to turn around and call this "wage-slavery". A growing business acquires the ability to employ workers, and through employment, they are therefore naturally sharing wealth around. In capitalism, these workers have the ability to save and invest their earnings, Into their own startup business or maybe someone else's. In socialism, the worker does not have the ability to invest his earnings to better himself, therefore never being able to start a business, which would create more jobs and employ more people. Do you see where I'm going with this? It's a natural cycle that has been going since the start of civilization.

Leftists believe that they can tamper with this simple process. Look where it got them! Poverty stricken countries such as the USSR, North Korea, Venezuela. China was crippled by communism until they had an economic reform and started to embrace capitalism once more.

You describe rights as things such as health care, education and food. Those are not rights! Those are things that one can work towards acquiring. If someone is sat on the side of the road, deciding not to work for anything, thinking that if he looks sad enough, the government is just going plonk some free stuff in front of him, then he doesn't understand basic life principals! You can't just get given things because you don't feel like working for them. 

Your leftist ideas promote a thing called "equal outcome". A system where no-matter what you do, you will end up the same as everyone else. Capitalist ideas promote a thing called "equal opportunity". A system where everyone has the same opportunity to do well, but the person who is willing to work hard and put effort into making the most of that opportunity will end up prospering the most. And that is just how it goes.

We are all here to learn! I will look more into your ideas and further educate myself!
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@chamberpunk ·
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I'm going to follow you because I think this conversation can be constructive.

You don't think capitalism enriches the few? How do you figure? 

I'll explain my position.

Commodity production under capitalism 

![images (9).jpeg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmQtrbxLuUUz3z5RijP53uYGyxysYWbkJm7NsUKJG3YZRp/images%20(9).jpeg)

Okay so this isn't a description of the full capitalist mode of production, but it shows a good outline of what I want to explain to you.

When commodities are produced, a value is generated(as long as the commodity has a use value or exchange value) right?

Okay the workers produce more value then they are paid for. They are then paid a wage, they don't receive the full value of thier production because the surplus is taken from them, by the capitalist, when the commodities are eventually taken to market.

Meaning that capitalists extract value from thier workers. You might have heard this be called "leveraged income' in main stream economic texts, but this is expolitation.

Consider a few things for me will you?

How much money Bill gates has made

http://time.com/money/5098598/bill-gates-net-worth/

9 billion dollars

Vs

How much a worker in his Chinese factory makes around 70 dollars a month.

http://time.com/money/5098598/bill-gates-net-worth/
Take extra note on the conditions and work load these ladies have.

I'd say those Chinese workers are slaves. 

This is my response to you two bulletin points.

This is not the natural cycle of civilization, look at the iroquois federation, they were a pre industrial left wing Anarchist society(by my account anyway)

Society developes according to material conditions and organizations. 

There are many more examples in anthropology that refute this. I can find them if you want. I have the book somewhere around my house.

You're really going to say the USSR was poor? Really? Sends first human to space. Ends cronic famine. Second largest industrial economy at it's time. It only feel apart because they decided to go back to markets.

You're blinded by ideology. 

As for the other countries, north Korea has the harshest sanctions in the history of sanctions on it. It rebuilt faster then south Korea despite this.

Venezuela is mismanaged I'll give you that.

I'm not even proposing a leninist state, but I'm not completely blinded by propaganda.

Health care should be Rights, they are under sane economies.

Every industrial conutry on the planet besides the United States healthcare socialized.

You don't want freedom, you just hate the poor, who are poor, because capitalism steals their value from them.

None hierarchical structures doesn't mean everyone is the same. We just don't have our individual power taken from us by a ruling class of capitalists.

What's going on is a war, a class war, and to choose the side of the rich is betraying your own interests.

Do not pretend to Know what leftists want when you've never read any book by a single leftist. Saying we want equal outcome proves you've never read any of it.

I want people to have access to the necessities of life, and material wealth to be used for the improvement of technology and well being of society. Not our material wealth to be used to drive blind consumerism that is literally destroying the future.
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@roninphilosophy ·
Solidly written and I agree almost entirely. My only quibble would be with describing Stephan M as an anarchist. I do not think thats an accurate description of his views. I see him as minarchist at best. Great post otherwise!
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@sailormann ·
Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate it.
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