<center><img src='https://dlike.io/images/default-img.png' alt='Shared From Dlike' /></center> ##### <p>A great overview on the history of the LN and what it is today. </p><p>Key Takeaways:</p><ol><li> Three main clients: Blockstream (spearheading the c-lightning implementation), Lightning Labs (spearheading lnd) and ACINQ (spearheading eclair). </li><li>Early estimates predicted it would come way to sooner and as such Vaporware fud has been always called.</li><li>There in no ICO but indeed funds for the companies have raised which aim to make money like any other company via products </li><li>Electrum bitcoin wallet will come with Lightning integration is coming soon </li><li>New techs like Hyperloop could even benefit Bitcoin’s on-chain scaling challenges ie no need for a blocksize increase</li><li>Key warnings to the community not to oversell LN. </li></ol> ##### <center><br><a href='https://dlike.io/post/@sames/scam-or-iteration-in-berlin-bitcoin-diehards-still-believe-in-lightning'>Shared On DLIKE</a><hr><br><a href='https://dlike.io/'><img src='https://dlike.io/images/dlike-logo.jpg'></a></center>
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| permlink | scam-or-iteration-in-berlin-bitcoin-diehards-still-believe-in-lightning | ||||||||||||
| category | dlike | ||||||||||||
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i have same problem as you, often dlike doesnt link on steemit at all
| author | kingscrown |
|---|---|
| permlink | re-sames-scam-or-iteration-in-berlin-bitcoin-diehards-still-believe-in-lightning-20191030t002451638z |
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Yeah it kinda annoying :(
| author | sames |
|---|---|
| permlink | q09tmy |
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|---|---|
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