[(*Click here to read my introduction to the perspective of basic income as basic resources*)](https://steemit.com/basicincome/@scottsantens/an-introduction-to-unconditional-basic-income-as-unconditional-access-to-basic-resources) A common concern of the idea of basic income is the idea of freeriders lazily freeloading off the hard labor of others, contributing nothing in return. On [page 177](http://i.imgur.com/63Ltcac.jpg) of the book ["Independence, Propertylessness, and Basic Income"](http://amzn.to/1TDhCNJ) by Karl Widerquist there's a very interesting argument for unconditional basic income I'd like to share which addresses such concerns. He gives an example of a group of people on an island where a well needs to be dug so that everyone can have fresh water. Only one person is needed to do it, and so one volunteer steps forward to do it. The deal made is that he'll dig the well in exchange for a larger claim to resources than everyone else. This isn't to say he's paid to do it. It's that instead of the island's total available resources being split say 20% for each of five people, that four people get 19% each and the volunteer to dig gets an additional 4% claim. Each person is basically giving up 1% of their claim to resources. No money is exchanged. The person digging the well does so for the rights to a larger share of legal claim to the island. So now, even though no one paid for the well to be dug, and no one expended any effort themselves, are they free-riding? Are they freeloaders for drinking the well water for the rest of their lives despite not having helped dig the hole themselves? Will their descendants be freeloaders for being born on an island with a well none of them helped dig, with a reduced share of resources handed down to them by their own ancestors in comparison to the greater share of resources handed down to the digger's descendants who didn't dig the well either? The question of freeloading assumes that not expending labor is freeloading, and it's just a simple equation. But this equation has other variables we all ignore, like time and how many resources we have a birthright to that we've given up our rights to claim. Like those four people on the island, we've each given up a percentage of our claim to our island, but unlike them we have given up 100% of our claim to its natural resources. These natural resources were accepted as payment for all the work ever done and presently being done. [It is only in places like Alaska that this is recognized](http://www.iser.uaa.alaska.edu/Publications/bien_xiii_ak_pfd_lessons.pdf). Instead of just letting companies drill for the oil they found but did not create, Alaska says that each Alaskan should see payment for the claiming of resources that were mutually shared prior to being sucked out of the ground by oil companies. Thus [in Alaska, each Alaskan gets compensated with a dividend as just compensation](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/04/extreme-wealth-inequality-alaska-model/). Once you look at it this way, are Alaskans freeloading? Of course not. It's Alaska's oil and they're just the only state so far to recognize it. In fact, even that is only arbitrary because the lines of Alaska are imaginary. It's not Alaska's oil, it's really Earth's oil, actually Earth itself, and therefore something every human shares a common right to, especially when we burn it all and [this affects the entire world](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta2Wvy9F_gA), and not just Alaska. It's also not only about oil. There are many other natural resources to treat similarly, [like water, forests, minerals, and the electromagnetic spectrum](http://www.academia.edu/20148953/Applying_the_Alaska_model_in_a_Resource-Poor_State) as just a few examples. Many of those in the top 1% are in the top 1% because they and their ancestors dug the wells. [They now control almost all the resources](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM), and yet we pretend the rest of us didn't long ago provide them these resources through giving them our own claims, and the future claims of all our descendants. No one with a basic income can ever possibly be a freeloader, because a basic income is compensation for everything no one ever created, and [for everything created by those long dead](https://medium.com/economicsecproj/technological-inheritance-and-the-case-for-a-basic-income-ded373a69c8e). [Basic income is basic resource compensation](https://steemit.com/basicincome/@scottsantens/universal-basic-income-as-compensation-for-the-creation-and-defense-of-private-property-rights). It is a market correction to all the freeloading that has been going on for centuries.  --- ###### Who am I? 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Hi Scott I'm searching through the blogs discussing basic income today. Main reason is that i signed up for Swift Demand last week on the premise that this free registration would provide me with a coin related to daily income. I've [blogged about it today](https://steemit.com/basic-income/@abh12345/swift-demand-the-basic-income-experiment-with-online-currency) if you wish to have a look. And if you are keen, maybe you can blog/share your referral link to your followers? Have a good day Asher
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This is empowering as well, check it out http://annavonreitz.com/ I think that nobody can argue with a unconditional basic income and our deserving it, the only thing stopping it is the corporations run by the bankers, they even want to keep pretending that they are stil under contract while forcing everyone to use their fake ass money while it's been decidedly demonstrated that they have committed and are responsible for the biggest, longest going fraud in human history.
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I am into a money-free social premise though willing to listen about basic income. But thinking that UBI can succeed while cohabiting with our corporate monsters and centralization by governments is a form of irrational exuberance
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They aren't our corporate monsters, they are corporations, centralization by government isn't antithetical to unconditional basic income. I think you have to be more specific as to why and how government is going to stop ubi for being successful, especially if you consider that government hasn't particularly stopped or hindered ubi, ubi drives economy, poor people provide the demand that returns value back in a reciprocal fashion into the community much more than a ceo or 1%'er could, even if they bought 100 times more stuff and simply destroyed it, they couldn't consume as much as 101 poor people which combined don't have a percent of the wealth that a 1% has.
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Great post. I love the idea of universal basic income and as we're approaching a world of automation it's likely the way that we'll be going so I'm very excited. I know though that when I bring it up to people most people tell me that it'd be a nice idea but the very first complaint to ever come up is this idea of freeloading. I'll definitely be using some of these examples in upcoming conversations. Thanks!
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>Only one person is needed to do it, and so one volunteer steps forward to do it. The deal made is that he'll dig the well in exchange for a larger claim to resources than everyone else. Hello - the premise is wrong... no barter nor trade is whatever fashion. And for people to grasp that you need new non darwinian metaphysics to educate people about objective reality. This is the most daunting task and speaking of anything else is like placing the cart before the horse. The change must emanate from the Mind first. I agree that everything belong to Earth, there is no way to quantify this. Value such as time is subjective. Money cannot fix that.
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@scottsantens I have read your material and I really love your perspective on UBI. I think you should check out VIVA. This is a sleeping giant when it comes to this stuff. However the people instead of governments will be what determines this. Governments move too slow and reluctant for what we are currently facing in the world. https://steemit.com/vivacoin/@williambanks/introduction-to-viva-a-price-stable-crypto-currency-with-basic-income-that-s-not-hypothetical
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I am familiar with VIVA and others like them as well. Thanks though!
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A brotherhood of man! It's been good to find you, Scott, and I've read a bunch of your earlier work since seeing your introduction post. I've been hearing a lot about UBI this year, and when I skimmed through that list you maintain of folks in support of it, I saw many whom I admire. I've added UBI to my ever-growing list of revolutionary benevolent disruptions to keep up with over the next 60 years or so. Best of luck!
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That's great to hear, especially about the spreadsheet I maintain of notable basic income supporters. That's one of those things I work on that I wonder how many people actually are aware of or track as it grows. So thank you for letting me know that was useful to you, and for reading my work. Cheers to benevolent disruption! ;)
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The key point in your example of digging a well is the voluntary offer of labor in return for an agreement by the participants. What's missing? Force. Coercion. Government. I would love to know how many of you supporters of this plan have formed and/or joined a voluntary association to share incomes? Any of you? Why not? There is nothing preventing you from forming a voluntary association to give yourselves the very benefits you assert such an arrangement will deliver. Plus you will get the moral benefit of not using the force of government guns to get what you wish. So go ahead. Any of you? Anyone?
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https://groupincome.org
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Are you a participant in this group? And, if voluntary groups are able to accomplish the goal why use the violent force of government to coerce something that can be done without the use of force?
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I love your explanation of why there is no freeloading problem. I think a lot of the concerns about "freeloading" come from the belief that a person's worth arises purely through the work that they do.
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very nice to see people like you here, upvoted!
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