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Got a Problem with Steem's Reward System? Read This! by sean-king

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<p>We're seeing lots of complaints from people who are mystified by blogging rewards. &nbsp;They say things like: &nbsp;</p>
<p>* How can any single post be worth so much money? &nbsp;Don't we need to spread the money around more to make it fairer?&nbsp;</p>
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<p>* I spent hours on my essay and she posts a hot pic or two and makes fifty times as much as me? &nbsp;No fair!</p>
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<p>Well, folks, I'm here to suggest that you're frustrated because you're looking at things all wrong. &nbsp;<strong>An important purpose--maybe the most important purpose--of the author/blogging reward is to serve as a mechanism for the distribution a valuable currency (Steem) to the public based on the community's assessment of each member's contribution to the cause, with the opinion of those having "more to lose" by being wrong counting more than those with less to lose. &nbsp;</strong></p>
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<p>People seem to have two problems with this. &nbsp;First is how to measure "contribution". &nbsp;Second is the disparate voting power. &nbsp;Let's address each of those.</p>
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<p>Much of the frustration centers around confusion over how each blogger's contribution to the community gets valued by voters (or <strong>should</strong> be valued by voters). &nbsp;Folks seem mystified that a makeup tutorial could possibly be eSTEEMED (see what I did there?) more highly than a thoughful article about cryptocurrency or perhaps a beautifully vulnerable description of one's personal life struggles. &nbsp;</p>
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<p>However, remember that the purpose of Steem is first and foremost to place a valuable currency into circulation. &nbsp;<strong>Given that, there's really only one "logical" way to measure a post's value: &nbsp;Does it make the currency more valuable and lead to broader interest and circulation?</strong> &nbsp;That's it. &nbsp;The end. &nbsp;It doesn't matter how much time the author spent. &nbsp;It doesn't matter whether the post was eloquent or vulgar. &nbsp;All that matters to a rational Steem holder, especially a whale, is whether or not the post improves the value and distribution of Steem. &nbsp;</p>
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<p>With this understanding, it's clear why the often-maligned make-up tutorial was rewarded so handsomely. &nbsp;It represented a-first time opportunity to expose Steem to a new demographic--a critically important demographic (and I don't mean just women). &nbsp;The beauty and fashion indusury is huge, and it "sells well". &nbsp;</p>
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<p>It's also why pretty girls get upvoted so regularly, my lovely wife included (and thank you for that!). &nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/07/18/image2ea8a.jpg" width="1663" height="2449"/></p>
<p><em>(A shameless photo of the lovely wife, Cindy)</em></p>
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<p>Fact is, beauty and sex appeal are draws. &nbsp;We are hard wired for attraction to such things. &nbsp;There's just no avoiding that, and we'd be silly to try. &nbsp;</p>
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<p>You may view such things as shamelessly shallow, and that's okay. &nbsp;But shallow or not, these things were deemed by whales to be important to Steem's growth and distribution potential, and that's why the makeup tutorial post was worth so much.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Which brings up the next issue: &nbsp;Why is there such disproportionate voting power? &nbsp;Said another way, why do whales have so much influence? Well, there's a technical answer and a practical answer. &nbsp;The technical answer is spelled out quite well in the Steem whitepaper (anti-collusion, etc.). &nbsp;The practical answer is rather simple: &nbsp;<strong>Those with more to lose should have a bigger say in what happens than those with less. </strong>&nbsp;Perhaps the whales were wrong in their assessment that the make-up tutorial represented a potentially huge new market for Steem? &nbsp;If so, then they will pay a much larger price than minnows for their poor judgement in upvoting it so. &nbsp;And...that's as it should be. &nbsp;That's how self-sustaining and self-regulating systems work. &nbsp;Put too much decision making authority in those with little to lose, who are not sufficiently vested in the system, and...well...you end up with a fiat economy. Head's they win and tails you lose. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>To conclude, the best way to get your posts upvoted is to demonstrate (explicitly or implicitly) its usefulness in distributing Steem more widely and increasing its market value. &nbsp;If you're not interested in that, then hey, that's cool. &nbsp;Stick around and post all you want. &nbsp;We're a welcoming place! &nbsp;Just don't plan to make tons of money and don't begrudge those who do. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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@acassity ·
Good perspective we could see some Steem Millionairs soon! We still have time to load up on cheap Steem to though you can just buy in if you want! Check out my article on why I think the hackers might have a different motive then just stealing money, this could be to create a cheap price to buy into the currency.  https://steemit.com/the-hack/@acassity/hackers-real-motives-did-the-hackers-have-other-motives
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@admiral ·
it will work out for everyone the 1 way or the other
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@alexgr ·
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There's one more factor at play, to explain to newbies why some posts seem to make a ridiculous amount of money: The content rewards are supposed to reward much more content than currently exists. So if, say, tomorrow we had 100x more members and posts, rewards would have to be more "shared" between them.
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@anonymint · (edited)
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> Much of the frustration centers around confusion over how each blogger's contribution to the community gets valued by voters (or should be valued by voters).  Folks seem mystified that a makeup tutorial could possibly be eSTEEMED (see what I did there?) more highly than a thoughful article about cryptocurrency or perhaps a beautifully vulnerable description of one's personal life struggles.  

> However, remember that the purpose of Steem is first and foremost to place a valuable currency into circulation.  **Given that, there's really only one "logical" way to measure a post's value:  Does it make the currency more valuable and lead to broader interest and circulation?**  That's it.  The end.  It doesn't matter how much time the author spent.  It doesn't matter whether the post was eloquent or vulgar.  All that matters to a rational Steem holder, especially a whale, is whether or not the post improves the value and distribution of Steem.  

> With this understanding, it's clear why the often-maligned make-up tutorial was rewarded so handsomely.  It represented a-first time opportunity to expose Steem to a new demographic--a critically important demographic (and I don't mean just women).  The beauty and fashion indusury is huge, and it "sells well". 

I believe this analysis is incomplete because whales have to balance multiple factors which determine the long-term viability of Steemit.

While promoting the content which appeals to the widest untapped demographics is one of those factors, I don’t believe it is the only factor.

Some of the other factors include:

* motivate enough users to not abandon the site, i.e. the stickiness of the site.
* promote enough varied content that it doesn’t become impossible for users to find content
* cater to sufficient diverse interests so that Steem’s business plan of being able to pay for the content by debasing transactions instead of investors doesn’t fail. A widely used currency requires it be adopted by diverse members of society.

Unfortunately the [dominant game theory of Steem’s current algorithm](https://steemit.com/gametheory/@biophil/what-s-a-minnow-to-do-the-game-theory-of-steem-part-4#@anonymint/re-biophil-what-s-a-minnow-to-do-the-game-theory-of-steem-part-4-20160718t201818233z) appears to be for everyone to copy what the whales vote for, thus hypothetically minimizing the diversity of promoted posts.

I don’t think we are claiming that exceptional blog posts shouldn’t earn huge payouts. Rather [I’ve proposed](https://steemit.com/steemit/@anonymint/improving-steem-s-rankings-to-cater-to-diverse-content-preferences) that we need to improve the algorithm so diversity is not minimized.

For example, instead of roughly 10 out of every 100,000 posts earning 1000X more then the other posts, I’m contemplating the algorithmic adjustment I explained in my blog post, so that very roughly 100 out of every 100,000 posts would earn 100X more than the other posts. And moreover, that those 100 posts would be the “Top 10” posts in each of 10 different diverse like-minded voter clusters. Perhaps my technical point and argument is bit too mind-bending for many readers to fully grasp. I made some replies in [my blog post](https://steemit.com/steemit/@anonymint/improving-steem-s-rankings-to-cater-to-diverse-content-preferences#comments) which attempt to explain the various factors as I currently understand them.

Thus the Steem white paper appears to [make the erroneous assumption](https://steem.io/SteemWhitePaper.pdf#page=40) that the voter has no mental calculation cost to make, but the game theory strategy of maximizing rewards (also the non-anonymous voting) can cause wise voters to be overly circumspect and stingy with votes (even for comments) and also to vote only for the “Top 10” trending blog posts.

> Steem bypasses micropayments completely because when a user upvotes a post it is the
community that pays the bill. The same amount of money will be spent whether the user
upvotes a post or not and the funds will not come from the voter.

> The mental energy associated with making an economic decision becomes a barrier to
participation for most people.

>> **The only transactions that users can approve without thought are ones that cost them nothing​**

The curator rewards are such a small fraction of the voter’s Steem Power, that only those with significant Steem Power are economically motivated by curator rewards. Thus we could posit that minnow voters have no great mental calculation cost when voting since they can vote their conscience without significant curator reward implications. Although the minnows don’t individually have much impact on the payout rewards, collectively they do since there are many more of them than there are whales. Thus we can conclude the white paper is more or less correct w.r.t. to minnows and w.r.t. to whales, the votes are not a replacement for micropayments because the whale’s vote doesn’t involve an insignificant economic value.
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@apocaloptimisto ·
Excellent explanation.  Thanks.  I'm now freed from my steemit addiction as everything I post is related to freeing people from reliance upon currency.  I thought steem would be a good transitional step to share with people but no one I know, people that can really contribute interesting material, is going to bother posting here if making a few guys rich at the top is the primary motivator.

It's been fun.
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@sean-king ·
Yah, you'd be better off posting on Facebook and Reddit, where you get paid nothing, and making their owners rich instead.
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@apocaloptimisto ·
Nope.  I'm only posting to my own site from now on.  That way no one gets rich, because rich people are scum and there are too many of them already.
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@awkwardawk ·
Beautifully written post, Sean!
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@axiomprime ·
Great post! I replied in my own post. I'd appreciate your thoughts. =D
https://steemit.com/investments/@axiomprime/steemit-economics-positivism-vs-praxeology-part-1
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@bacchist ·
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The hypothesis is that those with the most to lose will vote in such a way as to promote content that leads to the success of the platform. However, it is but a hypothesis. Steemit is, after all, an experiment. We have witnessed both confirmation and refutation of that hypothesis.

I would consider @guerrint's contributions' success a confirmation, because she has proven to have a very smart approach to marketing herself along with the site. She leveraged YouTube and expertly promoted Steemit in a way that wouldn't be too overbearing for her target audience... As good as it gets.

However, we also have to acknowledge the posts that have snuck onto the front page with little merit. One might consider it identity theft to pose as a heroin addict by plagiarizing a professional photo set. And plenty of quality posts have languished with less than a dollar payout despite a couple dozen upvotes... Content with potentially wide appeal goes unnoticed. And of course there's the "circle jerk" side of things... Once a user reported counting 16 posts from the top before reaching one that wasn't about Steemit.

So yeah, there's an idea behind how things are set up. And some reasons to be happy with how things have gone. But there is cause for concern. It's a debate we have to continue having. Fortunately we will, because that's the nature of our experiment.
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@cryptogirly92 ·
I am sick of this platform, everybody ignores good content, I am not the one who sees this. I sell my account by the way. koketoshka1@protonmail.com
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@kingtylervvs ·
cryptogirly 92 if I devise a strategy to game the system, will you work with me?
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@vidale ·
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And here we have a voice of reason and objectivity. Something the original post lacks completely.
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@nikola.rakic ·
The original post is somewhat cliche, but it still has a valid message. Format matters when trying to convey a message. Steemit is an evolving format and it is helpful to understand what works. With that being said, there are obvious deficiencies that hopefully will be worked out with time. Personally, I am glad a platform like this is available, and I hope to be able to impact it in a positive way going forward.
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@vikram ·
$0.83
Well the purpose behind the idea of whales is good but I feel it needs to be refined with time as the system evolves. As of now I feel some things similar to the follow might be essential 
1. discourage group voting - by analyzing patterns 
2. top whales weekly/monthly open talk and questions 
3. ability to remove/elect whales
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@bacchist ·
I find it hard to do #3, because it's based on SP. And I think that it was clever to design the system in a way that voting power is based on investment in the platform. I just think it should be flattened. But I don't see how we can keep the system in place if we could override particular people's votes. And I don't think we should do it even if we could.
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@cass ·
man dude nice to see u around again :)
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@kingtylervvs ·
no need to remove whales. Flagging / downvoting done by enough minnows can negte a whales upvote. in my opinion, if the entire steem community were trained properly, if people truly saw the makup tutorial as a waste of steemers time, then 10,000 minnows could have downvoted the ned and ted whales upvotes and it would not have trended so long. Right now, minnows simply vote on whatever is trending, because at the moment people are in the bandwagon mindset and not privy to the true blog to educational power of this system
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@bhokor ·
In my opinion actual steem reward system is too good with whales and too bad for small accounts,  i see it unbalanced
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@bimmerhead ·
$3.86
Terrific post that highlights the problem when a freedom-based community collides with an entitlement/socialjusticewarrior mentality. One year ago no one was making anything blogging/commenting/voting on a site called stememit and now some people are offended because they haven't received what they somehow think they're entitled to. 

Wake up punk. Nobody owes you a thing.
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@biophil ·
$2.26
Well said. I talk about voting rewards in my newest [game theory](https://steemit.com/gametheory/@biophil/what-s-a-minnow-to-do-the-game-theory-of-steem-part-4#comments) article too; I'd love to get your feedback.
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@cousteau ·
Good day ! help to understand please , I do not receive a curation reward . I First thought that it was due to the fact that i not passed the verification of account , or that there is a threshold SP?
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@sean-king ·
It takes 24 hours or so before curation awards start showing up.
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@cousteau ·
have a week as I signed up, but i have no curation rewards
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@cryptosteem ·
This whole steemit setup seems to be wrong,  I don't see the point to down vote someone just because. They have  have the must to lose just as. I see no point to give someone advantage over another through they steem power . It should be all for one and one for all.
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@cyberdesire ·
no nude :)
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@cyrusxir ·
As a platform I am in interested in steemit as a means of introducing people to the applications of block chains and as an aggregate of user data on various topics. As far as the dissemination of data, I would  very much prefer that it be new informative information and not just selfies.
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@obfuscate-me · (edited)
Precisely how I feel!

Don't the actual, _you know, **#exchanges**_ handle the part of transferring currencies (e.g. STEEM) around and about?
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@dwinblood ·
I told people that when someone makes that much they are not actually harming anyone.   The only negative that comes from it is envy/jealousy.

As more people make money and gain steem power, more people will have power to give to others by voting on them.   It will spread out and we'll end up with Whale's with different tastes and the rewards should spread around more.

We have to get there first.   Getting money into the ecosystem needs to happen first.   IF a person is rewarded a lot and bails on steemit they may not contribute as much and help grow other people.    I don't see that as something that is likely to occur very often.
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@ebenezer ·
Thanks for this great revelation. I will implement it
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@elargroup ·
Hello ! Сool ! Like You)
Good luck to you all!
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@elargroup ·
Coin could all overtake easily, it is really a good thing to blokcheyne, all promise to do something about raising money and pulled, and everything is done and went public with the finished product, the main thing that no problems with hackers) Fly to coin odnaznachno up IMW .
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@ghostyeti ·
$0.06
Sean,  I'm posting a picture of my wife a giving up trying to write :)
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@sean-king ·
Post a link here.  I'll upvote it.
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@glib ·
Maybe we can all benefit from the inevitable headlines these massively successful posts will bring in the media.
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@sean-king · (edited)
Precisely!  The money being spent is simply an advertising budget, and if people started looking at it that way they'd be a lot less stressed.
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@glib ·
The fact you got 2 votes and I got 0 for saying the same thing is weird.
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@groovy ·
Well I like to think that steemit is more than just about distributing steem otherwise the integrity is not there and that is what a good foundation is built on.  I do understand that we all want to make steem and that is why you do any job to get paid and money is the bottom line, but I think long run we need to see value in the steemit platform.
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@hedge-x ·
You could not have said it any better.  "Put to much decision making authority in those with little to lose, who are not sufficiently vested in the system, and...well...you end up with a fiat economy. Head's they win and tails you lose."
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@grahnite · (edited)
Hot diggity  dog, this is a good post. Cryptocurrency should be decentralised. When putting more power in the hands of whales, is that not kind of the same thing as a CENTRALIZED system?
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@ffane ·
That's it! Thats the problem, why aren't you getting upvoated? Are people scared of the whales?  

The problem, from my pov (see what I did there?) Is not a provlem from the whales perspective because the steemit system was designed to be rigged so the rich get richer and gain influence.  If you came first (not sexually, teehee,) you've got more power

Sure, thats good to get people here and so is getting abunch of  youtubers, but its gonna suck if it continues this way and be ruled by the steem powerful censoring through over powered downvotes.  

Steempower to the people!
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@sean-king ·
The LEDGER should be decentralized.  The distribution of currency itself?  No.  Not if you care about economics and prosperity.
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@hedge-x ·
Your wife is hot!  You also totally right about beauty and sex appeal being the natural draws they are.  Look!  I just saw your hot wife and was instantly drawn in!  Your post could have been shitty but I still wanted to look at your wife's sexy pic.  This is why Instagram has turned into an orgy of likes on hot asses.  These Instagram girls I know get $600 to $1000 a pic or at least the ones with a few million or more followers.  Imagine what some of these hot girls will be making on Steemit!
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@hocino ·
thank you :)
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@jacobt ·
$0.09
You're confused.

"based on the community's assessment of each member's contribution to the cause"

The surfacing is based on whale votes alone.  This is the issue at the heart.
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@sean-king ·
You stopped quoting me too soon.  I went on to say "with the opinion of those having "more to lose" by being wrong counting more than those with less to lose."  As it should be.
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@johnsmith ·
I upvoted because your wife is hot.
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@sean-king ·
She says "thank you".  :-)
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@johnsmith ·
Ha, this place is awesome! "Fact is, beauty and sex appeal are draws. " All these comments, mine gets singled out for a response and didn't even need the gratuitous photo. I think we both just proved your point.
I say "my pleasure". ;)
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@joiflores ·
I think that we fail as a society when we don't know how to vote, or being well-informed. But that's ok, that's what brought us here in the first place.
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@jupiter00000 · (edited)
$0.02
"Given that, there's really only one "logical" way to measure a post's value:  Does it make the currency more valuable and lead to broader interest and circulation?  That's it.  The end." 

- and this is why many new users are turned off when all they see is a feedback loop of self-justifying pro-steemit advertisements, infographics, proposals and what-have-you. Do you want another crypto-forum or do you want a platform that endows every post with its own right to attain value in and of itsself because of how it connects to a unique viewer. This isnt BitcoinTalkPaidAdvertisersGuild. This is the new age of social media. OUTSIDE the box my friend. I do not deny your logic, however, I believe that you may not be articulating the bigger picture, and by doing that, you isolate this mundane idea of us all being just another marketing ploy for a nother crypto project.

There's more to it.

Great post! You really got me thinking.
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@sean-king ·
I'm not so sure that my logic and your's is that different.  I share your concern about insufficient diversity of content, which is one reason why I was so glad to see the make-up post get so many votes.  We definitely need to focus on building a bigger tent!
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@kareemaudi ·
Appreciate your two cents.
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@kuriko ·
$0.06
lol I think supporting overpaid posts with selfies presenting yourself  is ridiculous. What about I bring some strippers on steemit and tell them hey show half your tits and a bunch of retards are going to upvote you. Hey lok at these other retards that are actually writing content worth being paid for, they get shit! haha... wtf is wrong with this mentality you ask.
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@leonaugus ·
very good this because I clarifies much that is really important to make a good post that serves steemit in your business!
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@lightnovelist ·
$0.03
This is not where the problem is. The problem is that there is currently no incentive for curators to find hidden gem posts from unknown posters. 

In effect, there is pretty much no point in having curators right now. Popular posters will be popular without those first few votes from curation bots. Curation currently brings in nothing new to the community, it doesn't allow the discovery of valuable content. 

The interests of curators are not aligned with the interest of the community at large, or the future of Steem.
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@lukestokes ·
$2.60
Thank you @sean-king! I've been meaning to write a post about this for a while and now I won't have to.

> An important purpose--maybe the most important purpose--of the author/blogging reward is to serve as a mechanism for the distribution a valuable currency (Steem) to the public...

> ...the purpose of Steem is first and foremost to place a valuable currency into circulation.

I've been thinking this for the past week. **Steemit is by far the best cryptocurrency funnel I've ever seen.** How many times have we seen ridiculous (in comparison) ways of distributing a new crypto? "Post your public address here and get some free coin!" How does that accomplish the goal of getting people to believe the token you're giving away for free has any value at all?

Steemit is doing that in a whole new way, and it's brilliant.

On a related note, I just posted about a Stylish script you can use to hide the $ symbols on the site. I'm 30 minutes in to my <a href="https://steemit.com/steemit/@lukestokes/the-steemit-usdusdusd-challenge-prove-to-yourself-why-you-are-here">24h challenge</a> so far and it's really, really interesting.
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@brianphobos ·
$2.26
The post is great and that is why I upvoted it and also upvoted your comment.  I agree with your assessment that Steemit is by far the best cryptocurrency funnel.  I explain in my recent post in a little more depth of why the rewards seem so extremely high on this platform for the time being and how that relates to mining other currencies.  https://steemit.com/steem/@brianphobos/the-top-reasons-steemit-will-bypass-the-moon-and-will-beat-nasa-and-spacex-to-mars-not-click-bait
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@resten ·
SCREW YOU ALL!!!!! https://steemit.com/investments/@resten/so-i-finally-realized-i-m-a-total-useless-idiot-on-steem-i-m-leaving
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@positive ·
So the social media aspect is just a marketing tool?
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@lukestokes ·
No, I think the evidence is all around us that it's much, much more than that. That's what's so great about Steem. It has so many different angles of value. I truly enjoy the conversations I've hard here way more than any other social media platform so far. There's real value here! I can say that confidently, especially because the $ have been hidden from me for the last 19+ hours. I'm interacting with this site for the conversations right now and they are fantastic.
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@magix ·
Congratulations! Good post!
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@manu ·
Nice post... It will be always difficult to oppress negativism while seeing others doing better. 
Although most of the time there won't be a reason to do, except frustration.
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@meister ·
$0.05
Very insightful post. I just wrote about the same topic but with a slightly different angle and I had to reference your article :) 
https://steemit.com/steemi/@meister/unfair-reward-system-earn-the-right-to-be-chosen-to-by-a-whale
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@michaellamden68 ·
I have to agree, until the platform is really established finding relatively comparable content will be difficult; remember you can't please everyone, which can also indicate the success of exploiting a "herd mentality" genre aka "sex sells"
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@mistasmitty ·
I'm new to cryptocurrency... Your post was very helpful!
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@moon32walker ·
Today is my 4th day here. I laughed,  learned a lot about the platform, made some small steem money, i bloged, i was invested and still am. Don't know what will come one month from now but all this is new and i hope it is not rigged for only the big money. Proof of work, proof of stake, proof of blog. We shall see..
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@mrwang ·
$0.05
Reminds me of the film industry and actors... talent, skill and work ethic...
you have to be committed and have a desire to not only inspire people but reach for greatness as well. Way to break it down and umm.. nice pic, congrats your a lucky guy
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@nelu.ceban ·
ths, i had also same questions!
how some peaple have good rewards.
this is life.
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@nelu.ceban ·
you may have right, 
another opinion oh how reward depends and who upvote, new or old person
my opinion
next post with children pls 
cheers
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@nioctib ·
the $ amount and  the votes should be invsible so people dont get manipulated by voting for the post because of money
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@sean-king ·
@lukestokes made a browser plugin that hides this info.  Check it out and try it!
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@obfuscate-me ·
Extremely comforting post; Thank you for this!

It has reinforced my drive to start posting much more often, 
rather than #lurking and #up-voting 90% of the time.

```Signed,```
```obfuscate-me```
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@olgaoko ·
Thanks for this post! 
Не is a very informative!
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@paco ·
$0.07
If you say to yourself  i ran away from youtube garbage to run into more crap?Remember that we do have the options to choose to read the content you enjoy or write maybe write your own.
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@raphma ·
So, to you, it's normal someone receive more steem just because of some tits? sorry but i disagree with you.... that's not a good system. well, at least not to me. but i'm still here, i like the idea and i still have hope.

if things keep going like that, in a few weeks steemit will be all about sex.
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@sean-king ·
$0.06
You think makeup tutorial only got votes because of tits?  There's tons more/better tits around here that don't get $30k in upvotes, my friend.  It was about much, much more than just tits.
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@raphma · (edited)
yeah, a makeup tutorial definitely worth 30k...... makes total sense.
and no, not ALL about tits, there are bots, whale groups and other stuffs too.
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@umpocket ·
It's the same concept that advertisers use everyday. Sex sells. If we want to see change, the community would have to consciously disregard the sex-selling style of post. Do I think we will see such a change? Unfortunately, no.
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@razvanelulmarin ·
$0.45
yeah...that's exactly the thinking that will be the doom of steemit. it's like sugar, a quick rush but nothing left after is gone.
We need steak and eggs!
Sorry, but I do not agree with you but that's not to sa that a funny or silly post doesn't have value but a  lazy post shouldn't.

my 6 cents.
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@glib ·
$0.07
Dude you're totally worth at least 7 cents!
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@rotykce ·
did someone say steak and eggs? :)
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@sciphobia ·
A lovely  photo of the shameless wife king sean..and you're welcome ;)
Had a nice read, I feel the same about it.
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@somedude ·
$1.38
What I thikn is wrong is that trending stay on top for too long. It gets boring even to go into trending since the same post is there for hours on
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@somedude ·
$1.22
All these stupid posts complaining about the make up tutorial girl are just jealousy, you can kiss my ass,

It is an unfair world, but if that is what you care about, there are injustices waaaaaaaaaay worse than this one to worry/post about
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@glib ·
Sadly I think this platform may become known more for the amount of sour grapes than anything else if this kind of reward imbalance continues :/
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@soulsistashakti ·
Interesting.  We'll see how it all plays out...
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@ssjsasha ·
$0.41
As this is new it will have lots of volatility. Some random posts will have lots of money while some informative interesting blog may got no notice. There is some luck involved. Good luck to all!
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@travelista ·
$2.18
Thank you for sharing this post @sean-King! Your wife is beautiful by the way. I am a woman and from my point of view I believe that is ok for woman to share her images, but accompanied by quality content, writing to go along with those pictures. Would not like to see Steemit go in the direction of just picture taking from women and loosing all those quality writers, which deserve a lot more! I plan to do both here! Just my thoughts .
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@venomspike ·
$2.12
This is a must read for anyone new to Steemit.

Upvoted, thanks for this.
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@vidale · (edited)
You've convinced me. Let's make this a marketplace for appraising women, including your wife. Let's slab a price tag on her.
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@sean-king ·
Is that what you took from my post really?  If so, try reading it again.
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@vidale ·
$0.03
That's exactly what I take from your post. 

I'm going to quote another user. @positive  "And people have a general distaste for people well rewarded for work judged invaluable."

And that's what it boils down to. Ultimately this kind of nonsense will absolutely wreck the platform, but sure, in the meantime people like your wife will have made their easy-earned (as opposed to hard-earned, get it?) money. Enjoy it.
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@wadepaterson ·
I agree with some of your points: there is a lot of pissing and moaning on here. However, you keep referencing the Make-Up Tutorial, which isn't really the issue. Your post didn't address plagiarism, which is a pretty significant problem on Steemit.

I don't think the platform is perfect...yet. I'm sure it will continue to evolve, though.
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@sean-king ·
I do see a lot of plagiarism and agree that it's a problem.  But I don't see much plagiarized content on the Trending or Hot pages.  With few exceptions, it's not being rewarded to a great degree, which is good. So, without reward, maybe it will eventually go away, or at least decrease.
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@winterchan ·
Thanks sean-king. What a nice post. I have a better picture about steemit mechanism now.
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@wolfofcyberstrt ·
when i went to submit my story, the " post " button is always grayed out.. can someone help me ?

i am able to only post comments
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@ydm6669 ·
did you put something in the tag section ? it won't work if you don't, or if you try with hashtags (#something).
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@ydm6669 · (edited)
Great post and insight on the current situation, and, if I may, the lady is indeed lovely!  :)
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@yonuts ·
taste is personal. But what me gets annoyed  is that a post with only a 360 video, not even from the poster itself,  for example gets like 600 steem dollars
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