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Cross Culture through media : The Asian Kill or Be Killed Flick

Yes, I watched **Squid Game**. How could I not with its pink suited masked weirdos?

Before I started I had no idea what it was about, I didn’t even watch the trailer. I said “I like those masks…let’s do this!” And within 30 minutes I realized that I wasn’t going to sleep well that night. 

I’m not a huge fan of violent movies, though a good story and message and directing can convince me to watch anything. Usually if I feel really unpleasant watching something I will turn it off. From the first episode of this show…I felt slightly unpleasant, and very intrigued. 

“He said 6 games, so that means it’ll just be a few minutes of violence per episode”. I shouldn’t have watched it at night though. I never watch this kind of show at night, it doesn’t make for good dreams.  If it’s during the daytime I can process it better. 



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This is not my first rodeo. I’ve watch these kill-or-be-killed battle to the death shows before as well as some ultra violent films in high school. 

All the way back in 2002 or 2003, I watched **Battle Royal**. It left me with a bad taste in my mouth and a pit in my stomach. Why the hell would anyone watch this?

Somehow though, the whole concept fascinated me and I watched it again for a second time. I even bought the book.  

Why would anyone watch it? Why did I bother to watch it twice and why did I still want more? Obviously it was hitting on some thing very profound and powerful. 

There is a tradition in Japan of art that is brutally self investigative and honest to the point of being uncomfortable  It can sometimes be unbearable to an unseasoned audience. 

**Yukio Mishima** is a perfect example. The Show novelist, who commuted seppuku (samurai style suicide) in an attempt to overthrow the Japanese government, writes about his feelings so honestly, that when I first read them I had a hard time believing it was autobiographical. It often was though and he admitted as much. How could anyone be so honest about their darkest thoughts and perversions and still keep a calm demeanor?

I sense a lot of the same sentiment from the ultra violent Japanese and Korean films. **Old Boy** was another one. It was the first Korean film I ever watched and I’ve gotta say it had the one of the impressive twists I can remember in a film. 

It’s important to note that this kind of film is not always popular in its country of origin, and usually does much better overseas. When I came to Japan, few people know of **Ichi the Killer** or **Love Exposure** or some of the more violent films which I forgot the names of. It was actually Quintin Tarantino whose fascination and elevation of these films brought them some attention in Asia. 

After seeing so many, the shock value has worn off for me, and I’m guessing many others.  Why are they still popular though. 

It’s just a few months since I stumbled upon **Alice in Borderland** which has a very similar premise to Squid Games. The most notable difference between the two is the sci-fi element which borders on supernatural in Alice, and the Mad Max post apocalyptic vibes that go with it. 

I spotted one thing that made Squid Game unique in this genre, at least from my perspective. I don’t know enough about Korean culture to know if they tend to have more hope than their Japanese counterpart. But where all the Japanese Battle Royale type films, none of them seem to leave you feeling hopeful for humanity. 

Squid Games is the first kill-or-be-killed story that I’ve seen from Asia that leaves you feeling like maybe humans can be pretty decent in the end. 

After watching Sono Shion’s **Cold Fish** and I wanted to crawl into a hole and die afterwards. That may be the worst I ever felt after “enjoying” a work of fiction. It was awful. Maybe now that I’m older, I might feel differently but it’s an utterly hopeless film, that seems to paint humans as being worse than trash. 

Squid Game left me feeling differently from most of these films. Unlike the utter hopeless disguist of Cold Fish or the bitter-sweet-but-mostly bitter “somehow we will get by” feeling that I felt After Old Boy, Squid Games season 1 left me with about as much optimism as a film about forcing people to kill each other possibly could, certainly more optimism than I would have expected…like “Society is hard, power corrupts, but deep down we are good”. It was a nice spin on the genre and made me feel better about giving it a watch.

#### Minor Spoils alert
Of all these stories where people are forced to kill each other and show the worst of themselves, it was the first I’ve seen where there was a side plot that involved uncovering investigating the organization responsible and trying to bring them to justice, the only exception being Alice, and this made both these shows more interesting.  

In all honesty, I was a bit underwhelmed when I found out who was behind it all and their reasoning. The reasoning had already been painted pretty clearly but left me unconvinced…you’d think that after 30 years of doing this, they would have become bored and found new ways to spend their money. And I didn’t find the big twists very convincing either. 

But the characters in generally were all very lovable, even the minor side characters. I especially liked the main character with his sense of justice that he tried hard to throw away at times, and the internets new biggest crush, Jung Ho Yeon, who played a defector trying to take care of her brother. Yes. I fell in love with her too. What an incredible aura. 

#### Spoilers finished!

The acting was great and the directing was great but I keep thinking about what makes this kind of film so enticing. Why is it so popular that even Hollywood has to emulate it with **Hunger Games**?  

I think it’s because in our daily lives, we are often in denial about what we are really capable of. We know humans are capable of terrible things and yet we want to convince ourselves that we are good. Somehow we know deep down that goodness exists. This kind of film helps us explore the parts of our humanity that we don’t like to explore but that we need to understand to truly know ourselves and what it means to be human. 

In fact we are all capable of the greatest good and the most horrible cruelty, and in the end it’s a choice. Sometimes that choice isn’t as easy as we’d like to admit, and sometimes everything will push us to actually want to be cruel. 

It’s an uncomfortable reality to face, and it’s easy to come away from it with pessimism. I’m glad that a show like Squid Games could look deep into the abyss and still manage to hold on to a semblance of hope, even hinting that perhaps if we changed our incentives and beliefs, there might be far less cruelty in the world. 

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@chincoculbert ·
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Feels like I'm the only one who haven't watched it yet!

I've been hearing a lot about it and been seeing a lot of tiktok videos about it as well. I had no idea that it would be really scary like that.

Well, guess I'll really need to watch it this time and maybe I'll do that in the night, I love the chill I get when I watch something really scary in the night and that certain rush of adrenaline that takes over my body, haha, I'm weird. 
Guess that's how we humans are, they're parts of us that we don't ever want to agree to or we end up denying exist.

Thanks for the spoiler alert, 🙄 now I'm way more eager to watch it
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@selfhelp4trolls ·
Many of my friends in high school were like you. That's why I saw all these films. I think Old Boy was the best although it's not scary as much as a little disturbing. It's also quite old already. 

Maybe you'll enjoy squid game more than me 😜
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@chincoculbert ·
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>Many of my friends in high school were like you. That's why I saw all these films. I think Old Boy was the best although it's not scary as much as a little disturbing. It's also quite old already.

Yeah I think peer pressure has a thing or two to do with it, lol but then I guess I got used to it.


Yeah there's only one way to find out 😏,
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I m trying not to read too attentively to avoid spoils.

I ll come back to read and make a better comment tho.

I hope its worth the noise.
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@selfhelp4trolls ·
It was alright.  Not art so much as entertainment, but not the worst thing I saw recently.  Enjoyable in a kind of unpleasant way.<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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@josediccus ·
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In disguise, you just did a impressionistic review without even knowing you did. The truth is, squid game is currently selling in Nigeria due to the hype. I'm not saying it isn't quality, but unlike you have Spartacus, Merlin or even game of thrones sell based on how quality it is. Nevertheless, it didn't take away the fact that most people love blood and gore more than they even admit sometimes. As for me, the first one this kind i saw with a lot of blood and killing was a Nigerian movie called *ISSAKABA*, we enjoyed the gore even if it leaves a bitter taste, or rather still can we say it fascinated us more than it gladdened us. 

As for the plot, i'll have to watch it. I prefer tech or thrilling storyline in movies to probably this. Plus kdrama isn't really my genre. At the end of the day, its an unveiling to some of the darkest aspect to the human existence. 

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@selfhelp4trolls ·
I am really not into gore and so this wasn't entirely my thing.  It was made well though. I liked it for the same reason as Game of Thrones, they both portray how the same people can be sinners and saints. There are no good and bad guys.  

I like media that help us process pain by giving it meaningful context. The first time I felt this was through American Beauty. Most recently I've found a few anime that do this very very well. The most recent are Made in Abyss (whose soundtrack I obsessed over) and Violet Evergarden. Both have a sense of hope despite being utterly brutal in some aspects but neither is nearly as violent as the films I mentioned above. 

I think Squid Game was just kind of candy compared to these, it may have had some meaning behind it but it didn't make me feel very much. Just very entertaining. I'd recommend those anime above this for sure
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@josediccus ·
Made in Abyss is manga right? Can't believe that Anime can be totally filled with gore, I mean, it doesn't seem like things that correlate. Nevertheless, i'm considering taking a look at it since im already inquisitive about it. Not that I want to see the gore, but I just want to look at how the writers will specifically fit in gore into manga.
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@selfhelp4trolls ·
Also thanks for the support!
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@josediccus ·
You're welcome
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@karinxxl ·
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Heeheh this sounds very familiar dude. I was also intrigued but kind of disgusted from the first game as well and already int he first episode I had a feeling it would turn out like a hunger games kind of survival thing.

I dont like action series and horror things as well, but this was just enough of the dosis for me. Same as with walking dead. There is a lot of violence but in the end it is about the characters and their personalities
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@selfhelp4trolls · (edited)
You!

Ah this was very very walking dead in that aspect. It fills my mind with too much dreary shit that's overly graphic for no reason but it tells a real story about humans and what they might do if...

Same vibe almost entirely. Humans can be terrible but still decent if they try. 

To be honest I think there is much better anime than live action television these days. Mr. Robot was the last live action tv show I was truly impressed with. Aside from episode 3 of "On Children" (TW) which was one of the most powerful and emotionally excruciating family stories I've ever seen. 
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@khaleesii ·
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I have been watching it, haven't finished it because of work but I think the first few episodes were great, and then it became less as it went.

Still a great series though and it is crazy how while watching I realized that if there was an opportunity for this, a whole lot of people would agree to be part of it and probably do worse. 
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@selfhelp4trolls ·
When you say it like that it reminds me of people who buy shitcoins lol  they must know they'll probably lose and be left with nothing, but just that tiny chance...

I don't know many people who would chose to be in the game. I think most people I know would rather choose desperation than risk it. If half the people survived...well I can imagine that much easier. 
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@khaleesii ·
I know people who have said they would gladly do it but then again Nigerians are desperate right now
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@mayorkeys ·
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I have been seeing this movie trending every where but I have not got watch it. Reading through this again has given me a green light to watch and even try watching it at night
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@selfhelp4trolls ·
Hahaha you also want the adrenaline rush at night. I didn't find it scary, just a little bloody and emotionally thrilling...who will survive 😉

If you get a chance check Mr. Robot , that’s the best show I’ve seen in 10 years. 
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@mayorkeys ·
Ohh. I see. Mr Robot. Added to the que of movies to watch next. 
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@merit.ahama ·
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I also watched the Squid game and I did that in the night, the first episode got me really scared and I thought of keeping it till morning before I continue but I just couldn't 😂 scary but interesting and full of suspense.

It's true that we humans tend to claim we're good but we haven't faced some situations if not, we would agree that most of us aren't as good as we say.

The Squid game made every person evil and murderer, even the winner and seriously I also didn't buy the reason behind the game... So silly childish to me. 

Nice review and I support the spoiler 😂
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@selfhelp4trolls ·
In some ways it was very similar to Game of Thrones. I mentioned that in a comment above. 

I enjoy looking at all aspects of humans, even the unpleasant side. But I don't like to have nightmares or to fill my head with dark things, so I won't watch often. 
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@merit.ahama ·
I understand what you mean, I also don't like watching them to avoid nightmares and having scary imaginations.

I've heard of the Game of thrones but I don't think I wanna watch it 🙈
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@raymondspeaks ·
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Didn't read the spoilers - but I miss the old ultra voilent films these days. I grew up on them! So Squid games is absolutely on my bucket list. I may even go watch it in 30 mins!
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@selfhelp4trolls ·
Lol I don't kiss them at all really but I miss some of the terrible B films we watched....Troll 2!
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@wolfofnostreet ·
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The big twist actually wasn't convincing
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