## Hive: The Superior "Lightning Network" for Bitcoin - A Thorchain-Enabled Vision for Global Value Transfer # https://img.leopedia.io/DQmRF2Tf7GRnAFKi8jZoBmEtg61o1MDZiv55jumDwKuSLH4/Screenshot%202025-05-31%20at%201.18.34%E2%80%AFPM.png [source](https://hive.blog/@shortsegments) # **Introduction** This article describes in plain language how Hive can be a compelling solution to some of the inherent problems within the Bitcoin Lightning Network, ultimately aiming to make Bitcoin a truly global value transfer system. **The Challenge: Bitcoin's Brand Power vs. Practical Limitations, and the Scale of the Problem** Bitcoin is undeniably the king of cryptocurrencies, a digital, scarce, decentralized store of value recognized globally. Figures like Michael Saylor and Jack Mallers champion its adoption, and "Bitcoin Presidents" and "Bitcoin hubs" are emerging worldwide. As of late May 2025, Bitcoin's market capitalization stands at approximately **$1.9 trillion to $2.2 trillion**, a massive figure that dwarfs most other digital assets. However, despite its immense brand power and market size, Bitcoin faces practical limitations: its core layer is inherently slow and transactions can be expensive. The Lightning Network (LN) was developed to address these issues, aiming for faster and cheaper Bitcoin transactions. However, running an LN node is often described as difficult and expensive, with low incentives for operators. This often leads to centralization, as large corporations like River Financial are increasingly positioned to become the primary LN node operators. This raises concerns about future KYC requirements, subscription models, and a loss of the very decentralization Bitcoin champions. To put this scale into perspective, at the time of writing (May , 2025), Hive's market capitalization was approximately **$120 million**. This means Hive is a mere **0.0063% the size of Bitcoin**. This vast difference in scale highlights why directly competing with Bitcoin on its core value proposition is an uphill battle. Instead, Hive positions itself as a powerful complement. **The Lightning Network's Achilles' Heel: Centralization and Complexity** The Lightning Network, while conceptually promising, has consistently fallen short of its decentralized ideal. Its fundamental design, requiring users to operate a full Bitcoin node (a 450GB+ and growing data commitment, requiring 24/7 uptime) to truly participate, presents a significant barrier to entry. As numerous experts, including `@brianoflondon`, have pointed out, running an LN node is "difficult, expensive and the fees it generates struggle to cover the costs of operating it." This prohibitive cost and complexity inevitably lead to centralization. The "scary warning" on Umbrel's GitHub page – "Umbrel is currently in beta and is not considered secure" – further highlights the inherent security challenges for individual users who attempt to run their own nodes. Furthermore, Lightning struggles with the inherent volatility of Bitcoin. While Bitcoin maximalists may resist, 99% of the world desires transactions denominated in a stable unit of value, like the USD. Attempts to "wrap" centralized stablecoins onto Lightning only introduce new points of failure and further erode decentralization, as seen with the sudden withdrawal of "Wallet of Satoshi" from the U.S. market. Bitcoin's main chain simply "can't cope" with the transactional demands, making it a poor fit for micro-payments and rapid transfers. Receiving Bitcoin via Lightning is also an interactive process, often requiring the recipient's wallet to be open and online. ### Hive: The Ideal "Railroad" for Bitcoin, Enabled by Thorchain Instead of a cumbersome and centralized Layer 2 like Lightning, Hive offers a truly decentralized, efficient, and user-friendly alternative for transporting value. The vision is simple: **establish a direct swapping pair between Hive and Bitcoin on Thorchain.** This integration would allow users to: 1. **Swap Bitcoin to Hive on Thorchain:** Users could easily convert a portion of their Bitcoin holdings into Hive tokens. 2. **Transport Value Instantly with Hive:** Once in Hive, value can be transferred **across the street or across the world in seconds**, with **zero fees**, and with **immediate settlement**. This is because Hive is a true money transfer system – the message is the money, and the money is the message. Unlike the traditional financial system's "promises to pay" and delayed settlements (2 to 30 days), Hive ensures funds are instantly in the recipient's wallet. 3. **Swap Hive back to Bitcoin on Thorchain:** When the need arises to convert back to Bitcoin, users can seamlessly swap their Hive for Bitcoin via the Thorchain pair. This mechanism fundamentally replaces the need for Lightning by leveraging Hive's core strengths, offering a superior alternative pathway for moving your Bitcoin: * **Decentralization:** Hive is a truly decentralized blockchain, comparable in its ethos to Bitcoin itself, but designed for high transactional throughput. It has already proven its resilience against "money attacks." * **Feeless Transactions:** Hive's zero-fee model makes it ideal for micro-transactions and frequent value transfers, which are cumbersome and expensive on Bitcoin's mainnet and problematic on Lightning. * **Immediate Settlement:** As a true money transfer system, Hive eliminates the "delayed settlement period" inherent in traditional finance and often present in the complexities of Lightning channel management. You receive Hive instantly, whether you're online or asleep, without running any software or needing your wallet to be open. * **Transactional Capacity:** Unlike Bitcoin's limited capacity, Hive is built for scale, capable of handling a vast number of transactions. * **Stable Value Potential:** While Hive is a volatile asset, the existence of HBD (Hive Backed Dollar), the longest-running decentralized stablecoin, offers a stable value option for transfers within the Hive ecosystem, avoiding the pitfalls of centralized stablecoins attempting to integrate with Lightning. * **User-Friendly Design:** Hive's architecture allows for easy account creation (though not disposable, given meaningful account value) and intuitive user experiences, without the daunting technical requirements of running a full Lightning node. * **Beyond Money Transfer:** Hive also offers what Bitcoin doesn't natively do well: fast content interaction, social incentivization through content creation and curation, and feeless micro-rewarding, all with near real-time settlement at the app layer. **Hive: The King's "Railway" for the Masses** Bitcoin's massive **$1.9 trillion to $2.2 trillion** market cap makes it the ultimate store of value. However, Hive, with its comparative market cap of only **$120 million** (as of April 2025), is perfectly positioned to become the efficient and decentralized "railway" for moving that value. By focusing on a simple value proposition – **Hive enables fast, feeless, and reliable Bitcoin transfers, outperforming Lightning in every critical aspect of decentralization, cost, and user experience** – and by establishing the crucial Thorchain swapping pair, Hive can accelerate its adoption. This isn't about fighting Bitcoin; it's about complementing it, doing what Bitcoin doesn't natively do, and providing a superior solution for the everyday transfer of value. The solution to Bitcoin's transactional limitations is not a complex, centralized Layer 2, but a battle-hardened, nimble, and truly decentralized blockchain like Hive, connected to the broader crypto ecosystem via Thorchain. # ## The End. #### This post was written by @shortsegments https://media.tenor.com/Uqyx_kdSrWkAAAAC/thanks-thanking-you.gif #Thank #you #for #reading #my #post https://img.leopedia.io/DQmYkFKTezdNhSGnhpMWvtdXCcRyG5AciGwNV2jGrAmRp6m/Screenshot%202025-05-11%20at%202.39.29%E2%80%AFAM.png # https://img.leopedia.io/DQmZmHtKxM8HoTjEh8BMgRESb6R8X4cdwcXjsG2bArSzMGD/Screenshot%202025-05-11%20at%203.36.32%E2%80%AFAM.png [Picture Source](https://hivebuzz.me/@shortsegments) # https://img.leopedia.io/DQmSN9BaakE216rMyM8BZrEULnXH98iLTJLWVpQEEeShGoQ/Screenshot%202025-05-11%20at%203.34.53%E2%80%AFAM.png [Picture Source](https://hivebuzz.me/@shortsegments) # ## Learn more about Hive at the Hive FAQ Page ### [Link](https://hive.blog/faq.html) https://img.leopedia.io/DQmXiDUcfTW79ZxJTnzPWKrwedooABtbqkoJXq1CZeXFzrF/download-8.png ## Join HIve for Free https://img.leopedia.io/DQmWybBpsPuPnUMCZwn6XtypJ3R5XsEmZC6yVPtFTNs48h9/Screenshot%202025-05-31%20at%205.08.39%E2%80%AFPM.png [Link](https://signup.hive.io/) Posted Using [INLEO](https://inleo.io/@shortsegments/hive-the-superior-lightning-network-for-bitcoin-a-thorchainenabled-vision-for-global-value-transfer-6d1)
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Well done educational article. Thanks for sharing!
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Your welcome. I am glad you enjoyed it.
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You are a visionary writer and thinker.
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Flattery is a sincere compliment
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Thanks, we need a hero.
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Here is the 10% Discount when you use the Shorty referral code. https://youtu.be/7M_nMY6k9ZU?si=NspyaP1M1iN_71wG
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This is an incredible incentive to signup Leodex referrals,
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Agreed 100%
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This is also big news. Tehre is a lot of good on the INleo community right now.
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It is just like that, as time passes, we will see that this platform will become much more famous all over the world and its price may also increase significantly in the coming time.
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I hope so...
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I see Hive not as a competitor to Bitcoin, but as a smart complement that provides an efficient global value transfer network.
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Yes, 100% agree.
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It is just a matter of time, the world will start witnessing the full potential of hive very soon
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I feel it is right around the corner, one more big use case and we will be discovered.
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I am convinced that this would work fine. Strike CEO Jack Maller already does swaps bewteen fiat and bitcoin as a money transfer service, this would work just as good.
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Good Point
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Exactly
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Agree
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Thanks for writing an article explaining all the technical stuff in the video. Now I listen to it and understand much more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h362iLQU5ks
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This is also big news. Our News Cup runneth over
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but it would be decntralized and accessible to all people.
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Exactly
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https://x.com/lee19389/status/1929296005247218123 #hive #posh
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Thanks you
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Welcome
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"This post is truly insightful and timely. Your analysis of the role of the Lightning Network in solving Bitcoin's scalability issues, and the potential of Hive as an alternative through cross-chain value transfer enabled by Thorchain, is commendable. Particularly inspiring is how you highlighted Hive’s delegated proof-of-stake mechanism and its fast transaction processing capabilities. Ideas like these can truly open up new horizons for the future of decentralized finance. Thank you for your research and analysis — looking forward to reading more such content!"
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Your welcome, I am glad you enjoyed the post.
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This is an idea whose time has come. I think your right that the success of TCY has brought Inleo to the attention of Thorhain
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The success of TCY makes this one of those strike while the iron is hot moments!
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Exactly, while they think you are good at things.
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An idea whose time has come. I hope so!
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Cool vision, and I see no reason why this wouldnt work , if we can swap eth for bitcoin.
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True.
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Agree
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I agree
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True Thorchain just needs to decide it's worth the coding effort, but wouldnt it be cool to have the hive devs do it?
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A DHF funded priject? Outstanding idea
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Exactly, but maybe we can bring our old developers
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This is a really interesting take. I like how you explained the problems with the Lightning Network and how Hive could be a better, simpler way to move Bitcoin around. The idea of using Thorchain to swap between Hive and Bitcoin makes a lot of sense. Cryptocurrency, like Hive, is a fan of Feeless and instant transfers which is quite great. It sounds like a huge win for everyday users. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly!
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Your welcome
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