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RE: The Daily Curie (30-31 Dec 2016) by sigmajin

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· @sigmajin · (edited)
> Secondly, without funding, there will be no Curie. It's impossible to run a project of this scale with nearly a hundred contributors without funding - it's the largest collaborative effort on Steemit. 

So you have a business, and you want to fund it.  But you don't want to invest your own money.  So you take it out of the reward pool.  You'll never get me to agree its a responsible use of the reward pool, but i don't have, and im not willing to buy, the steem power to really change it.  And i also don't care that much.  so whatever.  FWIW i have exactly the same problem with steemsports as a concept.


>- it's the largest collaborative effort on Steemit. Thirdly, ~1%-~1.5% of the reward pool isn't a "significant amount" 

I would posit that its more than that.... but even if its not, yeah 1-1.5 is a significant amount when youre talking about a budget.

>If you feel that Steemit will be better off without Curie, please do make an argument, we can let the community decide.

Yeah... i remember the last time that happened.  It told me everything i needed to know about your organization.
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@liberosist · (edited)
I'm guessing you have got Curie confused with some other group? I have no idea about any blacklist, or any chat. I can see that there have been many misunderstandings. Please find me in Steemit.chat, I'd love to clear these. 

If you feel Curie is no good for the community, then please voice your opinion - make a post about it. Thanks.
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@sigmajin ·
My personal guess is that there isn't a real blacklist.  But to me its just as bad to make threats about a made-up  list as it is about a real one.  And yes, it was definitely curie.  The person making the threats later claimed that he was talking about a "mute button" and that blacklist was just his way of saying mute button.  Its impossible to tell, since he deleted the chat from rocketchat... which you gotta wonder why he would do that if he was talking about the mute button.

Since the individual  in question has demanded that i do not mention him by name (which is pretty insanely arrogant in and of itself), ill just put the unlinked discussion here.  readers can judge for themselves the merit of both positions. 

Rational skepticism
>I like to give ppl the benefit of the doubt, but it seems really questionable when the stated purpose of the project is to get rewards to these new authors, but the actual effect seems to be getting rewards to established users who are posting about PC.
The curie account itself seems to get @6-700 a day, which is a non trivial percentage of author rewards. Plus however many posts like this there are from individual participants.

Off-the-charts inappropriate reply
>And that's the part where you humiliate yourself as you show your real face. I work for free as you are fully aware, that's public domain so don't act like you don't know.
Check the wallet, I never kept a single SBD from the upvotes, anytime any whale that supports Curie manually upvotes me, I send it to the project. Keep in mind these people used to upvote my posts in many occasions, and now I donate the absolute 100% of that.
Not only that, but I don't even vote my own posts you idiot, check it out! You know why? Because their votes were tethered to mine, so that vote is better used to help someone else who needs it more.
Not only I have never taken a dime from this project, but I donated a lot of what I made to the project on top of it all. Who the fuck you think pays for those finders fees, moderators..etc? Certainly not you.
We're trying to build something here, but I guess some people much rather try destroy with treacherous false accusations.
Aside from the monetary aspect I'm sacrifying, I sacrifice several hours per day every day to help people while ill-intentioned people like yourself try to troll people with perverted accusations.
Some of us do our best for the prosperity of steemit. And steemit ows me nothing by the way, I don't feel owed anything, all I do, I do voluntarily because I do fucking care about this platform.
So keep your accusation eslewhere.

coda
>The hysterical tone of the reply, as well as the numerous personal insults, make me even more skeptical about this project. As I said in my initial post, i like to give people the benefit of the doubt. When i look at projects like this, I want to believe the best. FWIW, i have gone out of pocket maybe $1500 total on this site, just to give people money for posts i found interesting or helpful. I also have close to 80K steem power that i don't really use. You had an opportunity to convince me that you could understand and sympathize with my concerns (which, btw, many share). Instead, you significantly increased my unease about projects such as this.
Given the support this has from whales with far more steem resources than I have, i guess at the end of the day i wouldnt have been significant anyway.
But being positive is not the same as checking your ability to think critically at the door. And not taking a moment to wonder if there should be thousands a week in rewards going to a blog about curation is just bad critical thinking. Especially when that distribution seems to fly in the face of the stated purpose of the project (to get more blogging reward for aspiring authors).
Even if the answer is ultimately that yes, this is a beneficial way to spend X% of the blogging reward pool, an inability to look at the matter critically and logically (or the view that such critical thinking is somehow tnatamount to an accusation of wrongdoing) is ultimately harmful to the platform.
I was done with this issue when i posted my first response. I am truly done now. Its clear where XXX stands on the matter. I hope others reading my comments will take a more sober view and interpret them as they were intended, as food for thought.
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