Liebe Leute, ich habe heute beim https://bitcoinblog.de/ Erschreckendes gelesen! Die überwiegende Mehrheit der benutzten Bitcoin Lightning Wallet Apps ist"custodial", was besagt, dass die Satoshis in der Wallet treuhänderisch verwaltet werden, ohne dass der User die Möglichkeit hat, die Schlüssel selbst zu verwahren! War die Unabhängigkeit von Dritten nicht genau das ZENTRALE Versprechen von Bitcoin? Hier die Rankingtabelle der beliebtesten Lightning Wallets beim Google Playstore: ![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/stayoutoftherz/23swg9rTUneDbC4sd5gWrjpnbNffj25gGfRutZVpwW9wHsuMiT8wWkRrkSL9mm2Eboe2L.png) https://bitcoinblog.de/2023/01/31/lightning-treibt-bitcoiner-zu-treuhaendern-zurueck/ Man sieht, dass die meisten der >100.000mal runtergeladenen Wallet Apps *nicht* selbstverwaltet sind (die häufigste ist Chivo, die offizielle Wallet der Regierung von El Salvador). Der Grund liegt, so vermutet der Autor des [Artikels](https://bitcoinblog.de/2023/01/31/lightning-treibt-bitcoiner-zu-treuhaendern-zurueck/) plausibel, in der Komplexität der Materie, aber damit ist nicht die technische Komplexität an sich gemeint (ein Handy ist ja auch wahnsinning kompliziert), sondern die Komplexität auf Anwenderseite. Offenbar gab es bei Lightning nie einen Steve Jobs, der radikal die Nutzerfreundlichkeit forciert (und z.B. alle Fronttasten bei den Iphones eliminiert hatte), mit dem Ergebnis, dass es ungemein kompliziert ist, einen Lightning-Channel zu betreiben. Ausserdem ist die Verwendung privater Schlüssel bei Lightning Wallets gebührenintensiv, was sich natürlich negativ auf die Marktanteile auswirkt, denn custodial Wallets haben im Vergleich wesentlich geringere Gebühren: Die können mit den Einlagen der User Zusatzgewinne lukrieren, was bei einer non-custodial Wallet nicht geht. Damit arbeiten sie wie herkömmliche Banken, nämlich mit Teilreserve (= sie verborgen einen Teil der eingelegten Bitcoins!), was so gar nicht zu Bitcoin passt. Einerseits versprach man uns Lightning als Lösung für das Geschwindigkeits- und Gebührenproblem von Bitcoin, und dann entpuppt es sich als verkapptes Bankenmodell. Was ist da los? Verschafft das den Verschwörungstheorien, dass Bitcoin insgeheim ein Werk der CIA ist, nicht Auftrieb (ich glaube trotzdem nicht daran)? Wer von Euch benutzt eine Lightning Wallet? Wart Ihr Euch des Umstands mit der Abhängigkeit von Dritten bewusst? Hat jemand schon mal bei Lighting selbst die Schlüssel verwaltet? ![stayoutoftherz_bitcoin_lightning_logo_gloomy_dystopic_ultradeta_520afe27-bb32-40ee-8f90-90cdae5c992f.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/stayoutoftherz/23tGXuXDL2t1NpDcxoQZUvhdLdMkNs4Syu2Pdu1kAMKuHGtvrFxgiEXz8MxbMGcxTWnUj.jpg) <sup>made with MidJourney</sup>
author | stayoutoftherz |
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category | hive-121566 |
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last_update | 2023-01-31 21:41:57 |
depth | 0 |
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root_title | "Ist Lightning eine Sackgasse?" |
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voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
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steemychicken1 | 0 | 1,018,685,349,243 | 44% | ||
daycrypter | 0 | 37,378,153,997 | 100% | ||
leprechaun | 0 | 2,160,840,608 | 32.5% | ||
gerber | 0 | 7,952,937,215 | 7% | ||
daan | 0 | 50,931,121,874 | 8% | ||
ezzy | 0 | 600,974,825 | 7% | ||
fabio | 0 | 347,132,105,145 | 25% | ||
exyle | 0 | 36,035,720,722 | 7% | ||
shaka | 0 | 3,227,491,663,631 | 100% | ||
miketr | 0 | 24,223,417,001 | 10% | ||
jphamer1 | 0 | 4,491,276,880,017 | 100% | ||
djennyfloro | 0 | 533,179,243 | 10% | ||
lemouth | 0 | 533,903,353,642 | 20% | ||
pollux.one | 0 | 470,149,395,004 | 80% | ||
daveks | 0 | 1,801,310,476,543 | 24% | ||
penguinpablo | 0 | 269,087,855,302 | 14% | ||
uwelang | 0 | 72,383,611,710 | 50% | ||
funnyman | 0 | 1,361,625,601 | 5.6% | ||
dirkzett | 0 | 1,517,698,354 | 20% | ||
okean123 | 0 | 41,595,518,845 | 50% | ||
lighteye | 0 | 500,519,911,517 | 100% | ||
freiheit50 | 0 | 682,470,661 | 100% | ||
sabsel | 0 | 13,833,892,773 | 100% | ||
orionvk | 0 | 87,361,507,370 | 50% | ||
ripperone | 0 | 3,334,743,610,699 | 45% | ||
schamangerbert | 0 | 1,382,664,014,554 | 100% | ||
filotasriza3 | 0 | 25,216,250,881 | 18% | ||
trafalgar | 0 | 15,634,207,882,318 | 35% | ||
dickturpin | 0 | 43,575,029,529 | 100% | ||
raindrop | 0 | 242,179,774,337 | 35% | ||
leroy.linientreu | 0 | 154,830,146,156 | 100% | ||
reconnectnature | 0 | 167,745,451,526 | 92% | ||
andyjaypowell | 0 | 610,066,973,439 | 100% | ||
grider123 | 0 | 19,814,537,781 | 100% | ||
xels | 0 | 314,315,910,865 | 50% | ||
nuagnorab | 0 | 12,316,215,181 | 100% | ||
bitcoinflood | 0 | 477,042,988,139 | 20% | ||
leontr | 0 | 3,064,132,319 | 40% | ||
alphacore | 0 | 4,632,839,620 | 2.92% | ||
eisenbart | 0 | 202,288,591,415 | 100% | ||
krischy | 0 | 5,179,521,327 | 100% | ||
vieanna | 0 | 260,950,593,863 | 100% | ||
joeyarnoldvn | 0 | 563,327,437 | 1.68% | ||
geekgirl | 0 | 2,317,841,840,255 | 100% | ||
dashforcenews-de | 0 | 18,390,768,755 | 20% | ||
xlisto | 0 | 36,590,526,587 | 50% | ||
duremarr | 0 | 12,188,405,978 | 54% | ||
stayoutoftherz | 0 | 9,822,128,153,785 | 100% | ||
everrich | 0 | 1,814,583,886 | 100% | ||
vikisecrets | 0 | 544,816,200,913 | 30% | ||
nicolemoker | 0 | 588,542,521 | 100% | ||
my451r | 0 | 174,965,595,300 | 100% | ||
felander | 0 | 29,237,125,920 | 7% | ||
santigs | 0 | 65,459,123,207 | 15% | ||
karja | 0 | 2,403,621,374 | 5% | ||
sportsgeek | 0 | 2,040,074,013 | 50% | ||
musicgeek | 0 | 906,379,801 | 50% | ||
stoodkev | 0 | 13,029,725,185,258 | 100% | ||
jedigeiss | 0 | 2,508,729,975,691 | 100% | ||
artonmysleeve | 0 | 1,964,586,133 | 12% | ||
roleerob | 0 | 859,737,749 | 0.1% | ||
eddwood | 0 | 35,299,942,145 | 50% | ||
yangyanje | 0 | 6,852,168,723 | 100% | ||
xoxois | 0 | 11,328,128,701 | 100% | ||
jeyf123 | 0 | 31,045,676,053 | 85% | ||
mundharmonika | 0 | 50,394,812,978 | 100% | ||
reiseamateur | 0 | 298,485,111,095 | 100% | ||
sweecee | 0 | 2,905,624,189 | 50% | ||
lauch3d | 0 | 13,678,111,360 | 100% | ||
coolguy123 | 0 | 161,727,376,169 | 100% | ||
syalla | 0 | 10,775,275,201 | 100% | ||
quekery | 0 | 154,311,420,229 | 100% | ||
prinzvalium | 0 | 222,069,672,172 | 50% | ||
maxinpower | 0 | 42,374,371,640 | 50% | ||
carolineschell | 0 | 389,352,590,341 | 100% | ||
docmarenkristina | 0 | 790,897,589 | 50% | ||
traf | 0 | 1,313,412,529,660 | 35% | ||
rcshad0w | 0 | 56,259,366,646 | 100% | ||
cervisia | 0 | 92,662,942,764 | 52.15% | ||
breelikeatree | 0 | 177,692,477,051 | 100% | ||
smooms | 0 | 122,342,671,773 | 80% | ||
wiseagent | 0 | 48,606,052,782 | 5% | ||
cryptonized | 0 | 22,161,031,482 | 14% | ||
oliverschmid | 0 | 65,878,918,353 | 100% | ||
jmotip | 0 | 140,037,683,960 | 100% | ||
stehaller | 0 | 318,917,732,879 | 100% | ||
balte | 0 | 22,224,221,430,015 | 100% | ||
peppermint24 | 0 | 11,700,750,474 | 100% | ||
investyourvote | 0 | 5,882,367,991 | 10% | ||
unconditionalove | 0 | 885,855,407 | 3.5% | ||
condeas | 0 | 513,502,090,121 | 20% | ||
onlavu | 0 | 103,960,444,380 | 100% | ||
samostically | 0 | 8,773,131,944 | 50% | ||
w74 | 0 | 119,446,761,179 | 100% | ||
freiheitsbote | 0 | 5,014,831,871 | 70% | ||
indextrader24 | 0 | 14,860,330,519 | 5% | ||
jedenjenda | 0 | 5,422,938,850 | 25% | ||
lauchmelder | 0 | 2,523,247,492 | 50% | ||
mima2606 | 0 | 48,812,784,716 | 100% | ||
bestboom | 0 | 1,382,491,629 | 7% | ||
rivalzzz | 0 | 48,859,468,078 | 100% | ||
manniman | 0 | 317,760,744,008 | 50% | ||
sbi2 | 0 | 45,903,544,985 | 4.06% | ||
dera123 | 0 | 152,531,567,972 | 100% | ||
barmbo | 0 | 157,335,895,889 | 100% | ||
dach-support | 0 | 405,276,148,652 | 60% | ||
mary-me | 0 | 193,486,226,015 | 100% | ||
themightyvolcano | 0 | 3,365,058,794 | 7% | ||
ecotone | 0 | 9,390,370,170 | 100% | ||
dreimaldad | 0 | 81,503,056,692 | 40% | ||
taldor | 0 | 11,599,532,636 | 50% | ||
cedricguillas | 0 | 199,252,722,605 | 100% | ||
meanbees | 0 | 899,077,767 | 0.7% | ||
fitnessgourmet | 0 | 789,923,907 | 100% | ||
fw206 | 0 | 940,061,796,724 | 20% | ||
slobberchops | 0 | 4,591,829,542,635 | 100% | ||
crimo | 0 | 1,416,879,669 | 25% | ||
aliriera | 0 | 7,274,898,756 | 100% | ||
kirstin | 0 | 213,224,447,251 | 100% | ||
muelli | 0 | 50,512,722,951 | 50% | ||
josua1 | 0 | 6,289,955,317 | 100% | ||
ronbong | 0 | 1,155,046,112 | 100% | ||
cesky | 0 | 836,683,537,487 | 50% | ||
astrolabio | 0 | 9,498,523,642 | 100% | ||
dash-embassy | 0 | 1,473,763,496 | 25% | ||
haegar85 | 0 | 5,402,946,905 | 50% | ||
crypt-skip | 0 | 55,646,453,369 | 100% | ||
harkar | 0 | 188,467,479,444 | 20% | ||
dlike | 0 | 16,174,042,820 | 7% | ||
platuro | 0 | 510,475,207 | 100% | ||
ynwa.andree | 0 | 104,546,956,823 | 100% | ||
berthold | 0 | 11,249,885,149 | 40% | ||
pauliinasoilu | 0 | 5,526,122,867 | 100% | ||
johannpiber | 0 | 148,318,717,201 | 15% | ||
followjohngalt | 0 | 892,526,336 | 6.65% | ||
misterc | 0 | 161,980,676,994 | 100% | ||
jacuzzi | 0 | 1,383,815,470 | 1.4% | ||
elikast | 0 | 17,482,613,121 | 100% | ||
esportleague | 0 | 9,080,655,623 | 100% | ||
hungrybear | 0 | 606,879,670 | 14% | ||
some-asshole | 0 | 924,486,918 | 12.5% | ||
denizcakmak | 0 | 492,247,123 | 50% | ||
sophieandhenrik | 0 | 8,983,119,835 | 50% | ||
guysellars | 0 | 2,370,626,796 | 100% | ||
poliwalt10 | 0 | 759,570,808 | 1.75% | ||
caro-art | 0 | 7,465,490,886 | 100% | ||
wulff-media | 0 | 273,128,914,842 | 100% | ||
dachcolony | 0 | 3,254,776,962 | 100% | ||
janasilver | 0 | 192,663,655,532 | 100% | ||
kaeptn-iglo | 0 | 614,455,855 | 100% | ||
investinthefutur | 0 | 11,114,315,363 | 10% | ||
shopinbit | 0 | 3,114,659,532 | 25% | ||
triplea.bot | 0 | 1,180,848,200 | 7% | ||
ratnaayub | 0 | 745,070,982 | 100% | ||
tiffin | 0 | 881,334,764 | 6.65% | ||
steem.leo | 0 | 4,881,938,498 | 7% | ||
umuk | 0 | 34,439,690,156 | 50% | ||
liaminit1 | 0 | 15,783,658,010 | 90% | ||
mary.janikowski | 0 | 727,072,999 | 100% | ||
mister.reatard | 0 | 1,642,172,559 | 10% | ||
narnary | 0 | 544,515,429 | 88.88% | ||
bozz.sports | 0 | 2,523,606,506 | 4% | ||
bilpcoin.pay | 0 | 537,289,717 | 10% | ||
patlog | 0 | 790,509,905 | 100% | ||
voinvote2 | 0 | 99,033,079,439 | 60% | ||
lotto-de | 0 | 12,548,660,118 | 10% | ||
levi-miron | 0 | 72,888,385,785 | 100% | ||
stoodmonsters | 0 | 301,510,859,165 | 100% | ||
abachon | 0 | 31,075,945,496 | 100% | ||
ribary | 0 | 2,463,634,689 | 3.5% | ||
sharkthelion | 0 | 2,449,568,989 | 25% | ||
rumors | 0 | 2,548,349,243 | 40% | ||
der-fahrlehrer | 0 | 10,445,865,977 | 94% | ||
mice-k | 0 | 335,419,850 | 7% | ||
julesquirin | 0 | 1,425,318,736 | 7% | ||
catanknight | 0 | 497,490,168 | 100% | ||
kreur | 0 | 178,072,368,365 | 100% | ||
brofund | 0 | 260,401,587 | 0.5% | ||
thehockeyfan-at | 0 | 125,896,083,723 | 30% | ||
politicalhive | 0 | 673,452,538 | 100% | ||
hiq | 0 | 616,289,723,612 | 100% | ||
softworld | 0 | 162,200,016,591 | 50% | ||
behiver | 0 | 461,820,378,618 | 100% | ||
dcityrewards | 0 | 72,745,115,145 | 7% | ||
woelfchen | 0 | 181,003,396,746 | 100% | ||
moneyheist-sl | 0 | 301,845,436 | 100% | ||
schmidi | 0 | 86,447,384,237 | 100% | ||
olaunlimited | 0 | 12,677,116,344 | 15.75% | ||
razorshark | 0 | 735,610,854 | 100% | ||
herz-ass | 0 | 76,291,988,693 | 100% | ||
liz.writes | 0 | 992,303,128 | 50% | ||
omarrojas | 0 | 51,259,854,746 | 75% | ||
ezrider | 0 | 2,150,991,936,049 | 30% | ||
meerliebe | 0 | 63,277,138,839 | 50% | ||
prometheus1881 | 0 | 1,064,924,114 | 100% | ||
carmate | 0 | 12,633,639,074 | 100% | ||
patriamcaritatis | 0 | 7,662,905,783 | 100% | ||
rslsaku | 0 | 3,289,226,529 | 100% | ||
damus-nostra | 0 | 63,068,703,882 | 100% | ||
abenteurer-dan | 0 | 6,217,633,408 | 100% | ||
nikoszzz | 0 | 1,291,707,791 | 100% | ||
hiq.redaktion | 0 | 47,724,728,132 | 100% | ||
tin.aung.soe | 0 | 64,082,532,257 | 41% | ||
meta.condeas | 0 | 4,073,272,237 | 100% | ||
andrastia | 0 | 512,950,106 | 40% | ||
dcrops | 0 | 52,257,749,771 | 3.5% | ||
vonzeppelin | 0 | 3,860,787,595 | 100% | ||
sofs-su | 0 | 19,966,365,233 | 15.7% | ||
ximlouiii | 0 | 9,334,888,610 | 100% | ||
kriszrokk | 0 | 10,727,694,279 | 100% | ||
solymi | 0 | 123,445,681,729 | 100% | ||
coinomite | 0 | 7,277,998,356,972 | 100% | ||
marvinman | 0 | 4,202,669,152 | 100% | ||
elgatoshawua | 0 | 20,847,795,555 | 100% | ||
mapetoke | 0 | 91,360,804,051 | 100% | ||
brofi | 0 | 48,876,416,053 | 0.5% | ||
wend1go | 0 | 26,130,698,840 | 100% | ||
drricksanchez | 0 | 48,852,292,835 | 10% | ||
eisvogel | 0 | 853,176,640 | 100% | ||
unlockmaster | 0 | 9,382,337,477 | 100% | ||
mrhoofman | 0 | 3,688,526,501 | 25% | ||
nfttunz | 0 | 4,044,748,938 | 0.25% | ||
hive.friends | 0 | 0 | 1% | ||
dividendencheck | 0 | 5,199,682,274 | 71% | ||
twicejoy | 0 | 2,818,241,063 | 7% | ||
fehlerbeheber | 0 | 679,814,666 | 100% | ||
borsengelaber | 0 | 104,266,205,578 | 50% | ||
vankarma | 0 | 1,804,270,084 | 50% | ||
pishio | 0 | 560,805,718,228 | 10% | ||
r0nny | 0 | 109,527,537,447 | 100% | ||
ebike-adventure | 0 | 2,189,697,921 | 100% | ||
titisnariyah | 0 | 12,138,951,925 | 100% | ||
badge-646464 | 0 | 12,642,354,068 | 100% | ||
shinpurple | 0 | 1,035,915,890 | 30% | ||
xclie | 0 | 0 | 100% | ||
iamchessguy | 0 | 621,601,387 | 100% | ||
mimi.ruby | 0 | 177,170,782,769 | 100% | ||
nftland89 | 0 | 1,997,444,352 | 100% | ||
beffeater | 0 | 2,412,458,738 | 50% | ||
thomas4711 | 0 | 2,846,542,475 | 50% | ||
adacardano | 0 | 73,878,818,608 | 30% | ||
hiq.magazine | 0 | 1,662,367,102,650 | 100% | ||
danyst1ne | 0 | 14,126,126,676 | 100% | ||
sb001 | 0 | 2,876,159,092 | 100% | ||
violator101 | 0 | 47,942,724,331 | 100% | ||
herman-german | 0 | 2,082,312,462 | 100% | ||
methodofmad | 0 | 111,926,993,839 | 25% | ||
m1sterjw | 0 | 1,563,415,788 | 60% | ||
adventkalender | 0 | 3,812,371,631 | 50% | ||
kvinna | 0 | 142,790,028,572 | 30% | ||
themyscira | 0 | 29,169,769,845 | 100% | ||
deadleaf | 0 | 3,764,391,820 | 100% | ||
onealfa.vyb | 0 | 0 | 32.5% | ||
foxy.pix | 0 | 508,905,304 | 50% | ||
alex2alex | 0 | 1,022,347,121 | 10% | ||
mario89 | 0 | 14,390,020,339 | 80% | ||
kheldar1982 | 0 | 56,453,605,986 | 100% | ||
ripusun | 0 | 22,189,553,464 | 100% | ||
friendmoose.pob | 0 | 478,678,849 | 100% | ||
foggwulf101 | 0 | 18,167,007,321 | 100% | ||
karizma | 0 | 21,565,490,336 | 50% | ||
richie8012 | 0 | 2,795,489,728 | 100% | ||
alpendohle | 0 | 7,067,534,723 | 100% | ||
money.finance | 0 | 15,188,985,130 | 100% | ||
mannimanccadm | 0 | 5,303,219,064 | 100% | ||
rahim.art72 | 0 | 1,794,584,248 | 100% | ||
bechibenner | 0 | 11,422,988,130 | 41.9% | ||
charlissy | 0 | 7,384,405,536 | 100% | ||
hiq.shares | 0 | 6,082,909,725 | 100% | ||
xtrafalgar | 0 | -196,357,568 | -35% | ||
monarchist | 0 | 1,326,786,448 | 75% | ||
adiiba | 0 | 1,534,790,807 | 50% | ||
bgmoha | 0 | 1,971,456,312 | 70% | ||
cleanyourcity | 0 | 32,995,414,479 | 5% | ||
hiq.witness | 0 | 46,752,852,698 | 100% | ||
hiq.smartbot | 0 | 18,024,243,964 | 100% | ||
hiq.hive | 0 | 13,990,615,226 | 100% | ||
sofort77 | 0 | 907,252,324 | 50% | ||
digitalmike | 0 | 8,359,128,171 | 100% | ||
terry.aya | 0 | 4,374,969,000 | 100% | ||
aroelarnal | 0 | 2,309,259,151 | 100% | ||
craftink | 0 | 1,657,951,122,379 | 100% | ||
lu1sa | 0 | 112,489,620,278 | 100% | ||
cryptopi314 | 0 | 1,787,891,232 | 100% | ||
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Hi, mal wieder eine off topic Frage 😘 Du nutzt die keychain App am Handy (und nicht die Browser extension), habe ich mir das richtig gemerkt? Ist die sicher?
author | beeber |
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permlink | re-stayoutoftherz-202323t114340703z |
category | hive-121566 |
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created | 2023-02-03 10:43:39 |
last_update | 2023-02-03 10:43:39 |
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root_title | "Ist Lightning eine Sackgasse?" |
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ich nütze sie vor allem am Computer, ich denke schon, dass sie am Handy auch sicher ist, kommt auch aufs Handy an, zb iphones sind nicht leicht hackbar
author | stayoutoftherz |
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permlink | re-beeber-202323t124749860z |
category | hive-121566 |
json_metadata | {"tags":["hive-121566","deutsch","bitcoin","crypto","lightning","leofinance","wallet","custodial","non-custodial","pob"],"app":"ecency/3.0.38-mobile","format":"markdown+html"} |
created | 2023-02-03 11:47:51 |
last_update | 2023-02-03 11:47:51 |
depth | 2 |
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Ja am Computer als Browser Extension schon. Aber am Handy mit nur 6 stelligen Zahlen Pin? Hmmm. Hab's wieder gelöscht vorerst. Danke trotzdem 😘
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Mit Sorgerecht Wallets kann der Benutzer in die gleichen Gefahren geraten, die wir bei den Insolvenzen der großen zentralisierten Börsen gesehen haben. Eine unerwartete Sache für eine Blockchain, die dezentralisiert werden möchte.
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Inwiefern ist Blue Wallet ein Custodial Wallet? Man hat doch dort eigene Keys. Oder ist nur die eigentliche Lightning Wallet damit gemeint und nicht die BTC Wallets? 🤔 Da bekommt man nämlich tatsächlich nur einen QR Link meine ich und keine Seed Keys (12 oder mehr Wörter). Dachte aber das sei bei Lightning normal, weil es ja Second Layer ist. Danke für eure Erläuterungen dazu @prinzvalium @condeas @stayoutoftherz @vikisecrets
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BlueWallet ist aus meiner Sicht nur teilweise non Custodial. Verbindet man seine eigene Node, so ist diese App natürlich non Custodial, aber nutzt man das Lightning-Angebot der app ohne eigene Node, dann ist sie es nicht mehr. Die BTC-Wallet ist natürlich davon ausgenommen, da nur der Nutzer der App, den Seed besitzt.
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Verstehe. Das heißt für ein Self custody Lightning wallet bekäme man dann auch separate Seeds? Wie bei Bitcoin?
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Ich bin ein großer Fan vom BTC LIGHTNING. Ich nutze es oftmals über Zeus und Bluewallet, welche ich mit meinem privaten Fullnode verbunden habe. Aber da das Tornetzwerk manchmal sehr langsam ist und auch mitunter nicht funktioniert, nutze ich auch gerne custodial Apps wie WalletOfSatoshi. Ich sehe das Lightnig eher wie ein Portemonnaie für Bargeld in Form von Coins. Hier sehe ich kein all zu großes Problem, wenn Menschen diesen Service nutzen und die Kontrolle über ihre Coins einer zentralen App überlassen.
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Wie klappt das bei Dir mit den Lightning Zahlungen über Deinen Fullnode? Bei mir sind die Kanäle meißt nicht richt ausbalanciert und dann klappt das auch nicht mit Sats verschicken.
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Das Ausbalancieren ist am Anfang nicht ganz einfach und kostet auch Gebühren. Ich sende ab und zu ein paar Sats von vollen Kanälen an WalletOfSatoshi und Nicehash. Da ich auch mit WOS und Nicehash einen Kanal habe, sende ich die dann wieder dort hin zurück und andere meiner Kanäle nutzen dieses Guthaben dann wieder. Dann ist es ebenfalls sehr nützlich mit Bolz einen etwas größeren Kanal zu haben. Dort tausche ich dann größere Summen an Sats in btc auf meiner Node-hotwallet, mit denen ich dann wiederum neue Kanäle eröffne. ![Screenshot_20230201_162258_Zeus.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/condeas/23tRxWkJPxpfPXxPAA4Kbsnm7BzFTy5YHbTUpviyhc6tGFFkLjB8iFsmCLju1qq2Tu3b8.jpg)
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Ist PrinzValium2 Deine Node? Würde gern einen Kanal über 2 mio sats eröffnen. Mir gehen langsam die vertrauenswürdigen Kanäle aus.
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Ja, da gebe ich Dir recht, für kleine Mengen ist das Risiko begrenzt, aber es widerstrebt mir trotzdem, da es der Idee des Bitcoin als *dezentrales Zahlungsmittel* diametral entgegensteht.
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Wir sind da ja erst am Anfang. Es gibt schon Anbieter wie z.B. Voltage, welche sich um die "Node-Pflege" kümmern und somit auch unbedarften Personen ihre eigene, selbst verwaltete Node ermöglichen. Auch [Cashu](https://coincharge.io/cashu-ecash-wallet-und-mint-system/) scheint da eine gute Möglichkeit zu bieten, dass man seine Sats zu mindest über vertraute Personen verwalten lassen kann. Man muss am Ende nur abwarten, was tatsächlich von einer breiten Masse angenommen wird.
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Ob LN eine Sackgasse oder eine Revolution ist, darüber kann man wirklich geteilter Meinung sein. Letztlich siegt immer Bequemlichkeit über Sicherheit. Die Menschen wollen es so. Ist ja auch verständlich. LN ist immer noch viel zu kompliziert für den Massenverkehr. Unmöglich das einem normalen Paypal-Nutzer zu erklären. Technisch gesehen kann man das sogar sehr eindrücklich erklären. Kleines Rechenbsp. Wenn 50% der Menschheit, also ca. 4 Mrd. Menschen zwei Kanäle im LN öffnen wollen würden, so benötigte die Erstellung der Kanäle ca. 36 Jahre (8 Mrd. Onchain-Transaktionen / 7 pro Sekunde / 3600 Sekunden / 8760 Stunden). Und hierin ist nicht berücksichtigt, dass Onchain eben noch andere Tx abgewickelt werden. Eine Verdoppelung der Zeit scheint dabei locker realistisch. Also über 70 Jahre. Daran sieht man eben schon, dass Zentralisierung einfach geschehen wird, wenn es nicht noch andere Technologien geben wird, mit denen man BTC schnell versenden kann.
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😮
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Ich nutze die [Phoenix Wallet](https://peakd.com/bitcoin/@felix.herrmann/mit-bitcoin-bei-subway), da kann man sich auch den Seed erstellen lassen. Leider kostet die Umwandlung von **on chain BTC in Lightning BTC 1% Gebühr**. In die andere Richtung ist etwas günstiger. Finde ich aber trotzdem happig, da ich bei Konkurrenten (LTC, DASH) günstige TX-Gebühren ON CHAIN habe. Außerdem ist LN bei weitem nicht so weit verbreitet wie BTC on chain. Außerdem habe lagere ich Bitcoins wetierhin lieber in einer on chain Hardware wallet. Für mich persönlich ist Lightning eine Sackgasse. Bei Bitcoin war von Anfang an zu 99% alles ready, bei Lightning sollen diese 99% irgendwann in der Zukunft erfolgen ("Junge Technologie"). Ich denke, bei Lightning custodial wallets werden wir in ein paar Jahren ähnliche Zensur sehen wie bei Paypal und Co.
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Hatte selber bisher noch nichts von Lightning gehört gehabt, obwohl ich mich mit BTC usw. immer wieder beschäftige. Da muss ich mal wieder etwas nachholen. Danke dir für den Beitrag 😊
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Für das Bezahlen im Alltag reicht eine Custodial Wallet aus. Einen Kauf von 1 kg Gold würde ich ohnehin auf der Hauptkette machen. Außerdem ist noch viel Zeit, um das Lightning Netzwerk massentauglich zu machen, denn so groß ist die Masse noch nicht und die Volatilität des BTC-Kurses ist für den Bezahl-Alltag ein großes Hindernis. Positiv ist an der Aufstellung, dass die Chivo-Wallet ganz oben steht. Der Praxistest in El Salvador läuft also. Abwarten und Tee trinken ist also angesagt.
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Ja, da wirst Du recht haben. Die Zahlen zu Chivo sind mit Vorsicht zu geniessen. Viele werden sich einfach das 20$-Geschenk abgeholt haben (jeder Bürger hat 20$ in Bitcoin geschenkt bekommen), aber wie viele die Wallet auch regelmässig nutzen, ist eine andere Frage!
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<div class="pull-left"> <img src="https://i.imgur.com/VDg3S7W.gif"></a> </div> <div class="pull-right"> @reiseamateur, the HiQ Smart Bot has recognized your request (1/5) and will start the voting trail. In addition, @stayoutoftherz gets !PIZZA from @hiq.redaktion. ![](https://i.imgur.com/plMUJVK.png) <sub>For further questions, check out https://hiq-hive.com or join our [Discord](https://discord.gg/25Fp5wBvQa). And don't forget to vote [HiQs fucking Witness!](https://vote.hive.uno/@hiq.witness) 😻</sub> </div>
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Congratulations @stayoutoftherz! You received a personal badge! <table><tr><td>https://images.hive.blog/70x70/http://hivebuzz.me/badges/pud.png?202302011854</td><td>You powered-up at least 10 HIVE on Hive Power Up Day!<br>Wait until the end of Power Up Day to find out the size of your Power-Bee.<br>May the Hive Power be with you! </td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view your badges on [your board](https://hivebuzz.me/@stayoutoftherz) and compare yourself to others in the [Ranking](https://hivebuzz.me/ranking)_</sub> **Check out our last posts:** <table><tr><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pum-202301-result"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/64x128/https://i.imgur.com/mzwqdSL.png"></a></td><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pum-202301-result">Hive Power Up Month Challenge - January 2023 Winners List</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pum-202302"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/64x128/https://i.imgur.com/M9RD8KS.png"></a></td><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pum-202302">Be ready for the February edition of the Hive Power Up Month!</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pud-202302"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/64x128/https://i.imgur.com/805FIIt.jpg"></a></td><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pud-202302">Hive Power Up Day - February 1st 2023</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="/hive-139531/@hivebuzz/proposal-2324"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/64x128/https://i.imgur.com/RNIZ1N6.png"></a></td><td><a href="/hive-139531/@hivebuzz/proposal-2324">The Hive Gamification Proposal</a></td></tr></table> ###### Support the HiveBuzz project. [Vote](https://hivesigner.com/sign/update_proposal_votes?proposal_ids=%5B%22248%22%5D&approve=true) for [our proposal](https://peakd.com/me/proposals/248)!
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Congratulations @stayoutoftherz! You received a personal badge! <table><tr><td>https://images.hive.blog/70x70/http://hivebuzz.me/badges/pud.s3.png?202302020004</td><td>You powered-up at least 100 HP on Hive Power Up Day! This entitles you to a level 3 badge<br>Participate in the next Power Up Day and try to power-up more HIVE to get a bigger Power-Bee.<br>May the Hive Power be with you!</td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view your badges on [your board](https://hivebuzz.me/@stayoutoftherz) and compare yourself to others in the [Ranking](https://hivebuzz.me/ranking)_</sub> **Check out our last posts:** <table><tr><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pum-202301-result"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/64x128/https://i.imgur.com/mzwqdSL.png"></a></td><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pum-202301-result">Hive Power Up Month Challenge - January 2023 Winners List</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pum-202302"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/64x128/https://i.imgur.com/M9RD8KS.png"></a></td><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pum-202302">Be ready for the February edition of the Hive Power Up Month!</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pud-202302"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/64x128/https://i.imgur.com/805FIIt.jpg"></a></td><td><a href="/hive-122221/@hivebuzz/pud-202302">Hive Power Up Day - February 1st 2023</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="/hive-139531/@hivebuzz/proposal-2324"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/64x128/https://i.imgur.com/RNIZ1N6.png"></a></td><td><a href="/hive-139531/@hivebuzz/proposal-2324">The Hive Gamification Proposal</a></td></tr></table> ###### Support the HiveBuzz project. [Vote](https://hivesigner.com/sign/update_proposal_votes?proposal_ids=%5B%22248%22%5D&approve=true) for [our proposal](https://peakd.com/me/proposals/248)!
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Nur Hive - alles andere ist fake. Es gilt: Not your keys, not your coins! Mehr brauch man nicht zu wissen.
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@solymi denkt du hast ein Vote durch @investinthefutur verdient!<br>@solymi thinks you have earned a vote of @investinthefutur !<br>
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Habe mich mit Lightning bisher noch nicht befasst. Fand das Konzept dahinter spannend. Nach deinem Artikel werde ich davon eher Abstand nehmen. Dann kann ich auch bei FIAT und meiner "Hausbank" bleiben. Ist sicherer und kann auch nicht viel weniger.
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Man muss es nicht komplett abschreiben. Ev. wurde was missverstanden oder sie bekommen es demnächst noch hin, etwas Userfreundliches auf die Beine zu stellen. Wird aber sicher noch dauern, dem dem Tempo der Entwicklung 🙁.
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Ein System dessen Entwicklung durch Mastercard und ein Bankkonsortium überhaupt erst nötig gemacht wurde. Das Prinzip ist immer das selbe: Sie verursachen das Problem oder verhindern dass es beseitigt wird, sie bieten eine Lösung. Geschäftsmodel von BigPharma, dem Staat, und vielen anderen. Politik verursacht Preiserhöhungen und nimmt durch den prozentualen Steueranteil (der die Dinge umso teurer macht) mehr ein --> Politik verteilt einen kleinen Teil davon als Hilfen an die Bürger weil alles wegen der höheren Macht - der "Inflation" so teuer ist. aber ist doch eh egal, wenn man sich die Gesellschaft ansieht wo alle brav die Maske tragen bis sie sie nicht mehr tragen müssen, weil Politiker das willkürlich festlegen...
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Ich habe zwei Lightning Wallets. Wallet of Satoshi und Blue Wallet. Ich sehe das eher als kleine Geldbörse für kleine Zahlungen. Da liegen keine großen Beträge drauf. Insofern für mich ok, dass die custodial sind. Ich habe auch versucht meinen Bitcoin / Lightning Node bei Blue Wallet einzubinden. Geht zwar, aber das Rebalancing der Lightning Kanäle ist echt schwierig für kleine Nodes ohne viel Traffic in beide Richtungen.
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Hab mich jetzt auch bei MidJourney angemeldet. Zahlst Du das was? Es sind ja glaub ich nur die ersten 25 Bilder kostenlos.
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Ja, ich hab ein Abo für ca. 10$ im Monat
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Sind echt tolle Bilder die du da machst. Da kann man schön die eigenen Postings aufhübschen.
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Obwohl ich mich mit BTC und ETH usw. auseinander Gesetz hatte, komm ich nicht mehr hinterher. Das hat natürlich damit zu tun, dass ich mich nicht mehr damit beschäftige, aber auch weil es immer komplizierter zu sein scheint. BTC habe ich nicht mehr, nur noch ETH, ADA und HBAR und das liegt alles bei Binance, nachdem die Zahlen bei Coinbase so massiv schlecht waren. Am liebsten würde ich alles offline aufbewahren. Aber einen Ledger möchte ich auch nicht. Auch USB -Sticks können unwiederbringlich beschädigt werden, wenn sie dauerhaft ohne Strom sind. Wir hatten auch mal eine Speicherkarte mit Hochzeitsfotos die im Betrieb versagt hat. Eingeschickt. Die Ursache wurde gefunden, aber man sagte uns, dass eine Wiederherstellung der Daten wohl nicht geht. Versuchen könnte man es, für 800 Euro..... Also bleibt nur einen Paperwallet und dann wird es gleich noch komplizierter und eine richtige Dokumentation wie und wo ich mein ETH wieder verkaufen kann, scheint es auch nicht mehr zu geben. Vielleicht habt ihr nen Tipp dazu
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Als hardware-Wallet empfehle ich die Bitbox02 https://bitcoin.org/en/wallets/hardware/bitbox/
author | stayoutoftherz |
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ich hab doch aber gar keine Bitcoin mehr :D trotzdem interessantes Teil
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Servus, Die BTC Community rühmt sich damit, das es dafür total Anonym sei,... so mein Resümee vom letzten BTC Meetup der Maximalisten... Hier ein Vortrag von Jeff Gallas CEO und innhaber von der Berliner Firma "FULMO" auf dem letzten BTC Kongress BTC2022 in Innsbruck: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-342g6OLYQA" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> *** **Und beim HIVE Meetup bzw. BTC Meetup in Leipzig hatten wir versucht via Lightning https://v4v.app/ mit HBD die Getränke zu bezahlen, leider nicht gelungen... (Bericht folgt noch)** ![lightning.hive.btc.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmYa1WUkTT1h4RHYopCfgnnwZYq5n84kWvvVf2hYaDf8wZ/lightning.hive.btc.png) lg !PGM mit etwas !hiqvote 🤠
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<center>Sent 0.1 PGM - 0.1 LVL- 1 STARBITS - 0.05 DEC - 1 SBT - 0.1 THG - 0.000001 SQM - 0.1 BUDS tokens to @reiseamateur</center> <center><sub>remaining commands 13</sub></center> **BUY AND STAKE THE PGM TO SEND A LOT OF TOKENS!** The tokens that the command sends are: 0.1 PGM-0.1 LVL-0.1 THGAMING-0.05 DEC-15 SBT-1 STARBITS-[0.00000001 BTC (SWAP.BTC) only if you have 2500 PGM in stake or more ] 5000 PGM IN STAKE = 2x rewards! ![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/zottone444/23t7AyKqAfdxKEJPQrpePMW15BCPhbyrf5VoHWxhBFcEcPLjDUVVQAh9ZAopbmoJDekS6.png) Discord [![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/hive-135941/23wfr3mtLS9ddSpifBvh7mwLx1rN3eoaSvbwUxTngsNR1GQ8EiZTrC9P9RwZxHCCfK8e5.png)](https://discord.gg/KCvuNTEjWw) Support the curation account @ pgm-curator with a delegation [10 HP](https://hivesigner.com/sign/op/WyJkZWxlZ2F0ZV92ZXN0aW5nX3NoYXJlcyIseyJkZWxlZ2F0b3IiOiJfX3NpZ25lciIsImRlbGVnYXRlZSI6InBnbS1jdXJhdG9yIiwidmVzdGluZ19zaGFyZXMiOiIxMCJ9XQ..) - [50 HP](https://hivesigner.com/sign/op/WyJkZWxlZ2F0ZV92ZXN0aW5nX3NoYXJlcyIseyJkZWxlZ2F0b3IiOiJfX3NpZ25lciIsImRlbGVnYXRlZSI6InBnbS1jdXJhdG9yIiwidmVzdGluZ19zaGFyZXMiOiI1MCJ9XQ..) - [100 HP](https://hivesigner.com/sign/op/WyJkZWxlZ2F0ZV92ZXN0aW5nX3NoYXJlcyIseyJkZWxlZ2F0b3IiOiJfX3NpZ25lciIsImRlbGVnYXRlZSI6InBnbS1jdXJhb3RyIiwidmVzdGluZ19zaGFyZXMiOiIxMDAifV0.) - [500 HP](https://hivesigner.com/sign/op/WyJkZWxlZ2F0ZV92ZXN0aW5nX3NoYXJlcyIseyJkZWxlZ2F0b3IiOiJfX3NpZ25lciIsImRlbGVnYXRlZSI6InBnbS1jdXJhdG9yIiwidmVzdGluZ19zaGFyZXMiOiI1MDAifV0.) - [1000 HP](https://hivesigner.com/sign/op/WyJ0cmFuc2Zlcl90b192ZXN0aW5nIix7ImZyb20iOiJfX3NpZ25lciIsInRvIjoicGdtLWN1cmF0b3IiLCJhbW91bnQiOiIxMDAwIn1d) Get **potential** votes from @ pgm-curator by paying in PGM, here is a [guide](https://peakd.com/hive-146620/@zottone444/pay-1-pgm-and-get-4-votes-itaegn) <sub>I'm a bot, if you want a hand ask @ zottone444</sub> ***
author | pgm-curator |
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Ich benutze keiner der genannten Wallets, aber ein sehr guter Punkt, den du hier ansprichst. Ich warte immer noch auf die NIOB Wallet und die scheint zu kommen. Chancen Risiko Verhältnis hier gerade sehr gut, was den Coin anbelangt. Ich denke dezentral ist wichtig und noch besser wäre es für mich, dass ich endlich meinen Ledger benutze ...
author | schmidi |
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permlink | re-stayoutoftherz-rpf1b2 |
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Ich habe lightning am ledger, sonst nutze ich lightning auch kaum. Ausser mit v4v.app aber da muss ich der App vertrauen... !invest_vote
author | solymi |
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Hab mich noch nicht mit Lightning auseinander gesetzt. Da muss ich mal was nachholen. Danke😊
author | terry.aya |
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Das ist der Trade-off von Lightning und by-design würde ich sagen, dafür bekommt man niedrige Gebühren, extrem leichte Benutzbarkeit (custodial Lightning Apps sind mittlerweile kinderleicht zu bedienen) und vor allem Skalierung. Lightning könnte Millionen oder sogar Milliarden User unterstützen. Man kann sich den Anbieter aussuchen und man hat auch noch die Möglichkeit, jederzeit selbst einen Channel zu öffnen und non-custodial zu gehen, was allerdings viel teurer ist und nicht so gut skaliert. Ist ein Kompromiss Bitcoin skalierbar zu machen. Muun Wallet bietet eine innovative Hybrid-Lösung das Beste aus custodial und non-custodial, aber mit höheren Fees. ![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/vikisecrets/EoAgzdnM4pZsA4E6smmbXqeCQHg6u6qiBin29yfHXd7MxQ8K2qnc425x6GoEfkKWo77.png) https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof-that-the-lightning-network-cannot-be-a-decentralized-bitcoin-scaling-solution-1b8147650800
author | vikisecrets |
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Es sieht für einen Laien wie ein fauler Kompromiss aus! Für geringere Gebühren eines der wichtigsten Prinzipien von Bitcoin aufgeben?
author | stayoutoftherz |
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