Consensus Reached for Hardfork 17+18! The New Features are Yours on Thursday, March 30th at 11am EST! by steemitblog

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steem · @steemitblog · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

Consensus Reached for Hardfork 17+18! The New Features are Yours on Thursday, March 30th at 11am EST!

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Hi there,

It's official. We've come to a new consensus with the witnesses. In fact, we’ve become so much better at reaching consensus, today we’ll be giving you TWO hardfork upgrades for the price of one :). We added in community requested changes into code numbered *18* rather than *17* for purely technical reasons. Here are the major changes for 18:

 - The comment reward pool will NOT be activated in HF 18
 - Upvote lockout has increased from 1 minute to 12 hours
 - Plus all previous HF 17 updates

What's most exciting for me is how we worked with the witnesses to accomplish this. There will be a new hardfork protocol that reflects the lessons learned here, but that's for another post.

This hardfork has been a huge one. Let me specify the good things you’ll get from it:

  - Delegated Bandwidth: You can now delegate any part of your SP to other users to vote for you. Whales, this is your cue to sponsor the best curators and content creators you can find!
   - Arbitrary Reward Splitting: Yes, reward splitting is here. Now you can monetize any app you build on Steem!

I hope you're all as excited as I am. Barring surprises, the next announcement from the marketing side will be on Friday.

  -Ned

👍 ned, smooth, thejohalfiles, pharesim, jaewoocho, blocktrades, steempty, smooth-e, bhuz, trafalgar, roelandp, arama, liondani, benjojo, gtg, jesta, fuzzyvest, pfunk, vortac, fabien, the-alien, donkeypong, demotruk, hedge-x, jacobcards, lukestokes, steemitblog, exyle, furion, fabio, zurvanic, clayop, originate, geoffrey, anagamidev, james212, chitty, emilhoch, jaki01, anotherjoe, tarekadam, gregm, inertia, idealist, timcliff, gardenlady, picokernel, joele, klye, l0k1, dan-atstarlite, chessmonster, capper2016, rigaronib, matt-a, chhaylin, blueorgy, marius19, eric-boucher, ausbitbank, allasyummyfood, blocklab, walterjay, morning, and 241 others
👎 walden

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@andilorenzo · Mar 28 '17

Resteem.. Good luck.!!!

👍 andilorenzo

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@azfix · Mar 28 '17

$3.05

Sounds pretty exciting, it will be interesting to see how people use delegated bandwidth. I am just curious how the curator reward will be split between the Whale and the delegate.

👍 blocktrades

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@jesta · Mar 29 '17

There will be no reward split in HF18 - just the ability to delegate. 

That could possibly come at a later date, but it would need some discussion and engineering ninjary.

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@azfix · Mar 29 '17

It will be interesting to see if they do it out of kindness or if some other payment system is setup outside of the steemit structure.

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1 reply

@barvon · Mar 29 '17 (edited)

That this is a new regulation from the Witnesses, I wish also to obey society.
**Good job** @steemitblog

👍 barvon

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@beanz · Mar 28 '17

$0.44

What does "upvote lockout" mean?

👍 demotruk, worldclassplayer, hr1, personz, schamangerbert, riskdebonair, heroic15397, cryptovpn, lighteye, businesswri, goodguygreg, bnoise, carbunco10

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@andrarchy · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

$1.02

Basically, as far as I understand, one can't upvote their own post for the last 12 hours of the 7 day payout period for a post to prevent them exaggerating their rewards. This way if someone does upvote themselves in a way the community doesn't like, they have 12 hours to counter that action.

👍 zurvanic, tamim, jaki01, shaka, voronoi, heiditravels, gargon, elyaque, pgarcgo, rmach, personz, steempire, riskdebonair, jgcastrillo19, steemperor, ihashfury, heroic15397, titin, wartrapa, juanmiguelsalas, ivan-perez-anies, freiheit50, aniestudio, tomino, businesswri, nelyp, cestlavie, handsolo, luisucv34, dulcinea, loreennaa, teo, alfredozofio, carlos-cabeza, juliamateo, albagargon, teacher

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@beanz · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

So this is not the same as the extension period we had before to allow time for alternative votes after a last minute whale vote.

👍 cryptovpn

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2 replies

@jesta · Mar 28 '17

$0.09

No one can upvote a post in the last 12 hours from what I understand it to be, only downvotes.

👍 jaki01, hr1, heroic15397

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@steemitblog · Mar 28 '17

$0.09

It means "review period" on posts that have pending rewards.

👍 jaki01, rmach, beanz, thedegensloth

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@acidyo · Mar 28 '17

I like this change!

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@shadowspub · Mar 28 '17

sorry.. can you explain what the 'review period' does?

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13 replies

@whatageek · Mar 28 '17

That's fair, good way to counter bad content.

👍 whatageek

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@uwelang · Mar 28 '17

$0.02

just wanted to ask the same question @beanz

👍 personz, beanz

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@personz · Mar 29 '17

Me too 😅

👍 uwelang

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@blocklab · Mar 29 '17

$0.05

thx for the update. I believe the insentive: *Arbitrary Reward Splitting: Yes, reward splitting is here. Now you can monetize any app you build on Steem!* will bring a lot new features and interesting things to come soon...

👍 blocklab

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@bnoise · Mar 28 '17

$0.20

No reward curve changes in HF18?

👍 rigaronib, ausbitbank, whatsup, igster, krystle, christoph3, businesswri, steemleak, bbkoopsta

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@ender · Mar 28 '17

What a shame hopefully 19 is soon

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@jesta · Mar 28 '17

No, not in HF17 or HF18. Hopefully soon!

👍 bnoise

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@whatageek · Mar 28 '17

I'm wondering the same.

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@businesswri · Mar 28 '17

Great news!

👍 carbunco10

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@cassidyandfranks · Mar 28 '17

Wow HF 17 going to HF 18  from teenager to adult speed!

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@denmarkguy · Mar 28 '17

$0.47

This is awesome news! So glad everyone came together... which also reflects super well on the overall community as actually being "a community," when viewed through outsider eyes!

This also seems like a great "marker" for going out and telling others about Steemit!

👍 tamim, twinner, shaka, heiditravels, gargon, pgarcgo, jgcastrillo19, ihashfury, titin, wartrapa, beers, juanmiguelsalas, ivan-perez-anies, silviabeneforti, aniestudio, nelyp, cestlavie, luisucv34, dulcinea, loreennaa, alfredozofio, carlos-cabeza, teo, juliamateo, albagargon, teacher

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@donkeypong · Mar 28 '17

Great news. Onwards and upwards!

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@dragosroua · Mar 29 '17

$3.08

Congrats! Looks like many things are falling into places. I appreciate your implication in this, @ned, and if these hardforks will go as expected, my overall Steemit sentiment will turn from "neutral/bad" to "moderately positive". 

I also noticed the flagging trend is taking a break. This flagging thing is the only obstacle preventing me from engaging more with the platform, both at the promotion / content creation level and at the governance level (being a witness who supports a community which promotes non-values is not on my list).

All the best!

👍 blocktrades, canadian-coconut, dolov

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@ebryans · Mar 30 '17

Hi there @steemitblog / @ned - we seem to have lost the rewards from yesterday. Where are they and are they going to be adversely affected? Or do they get reinstated at some stage? I woke to $0 on $35 of rewards from yesterday! There is no explanation!

👍 businesswri

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@edje · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

Great achievement!! Good to see!
Looking fwd to see HF17 & 18 implemented.

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@eric-boucher · Mar 28 '17

$0.06

Very good news @ned, thanks for sharing and look forward to see it all in action while evaluating the results of it all too.  Namaste   :)

👍 eric-boucher

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@faddat · Mar 28 '17

$0.07

Oh, goody.  

@ned, there's all this poo in the river.  

https://steemit.com/steemdev/@faddat/users-decide-21st-century-coopetition-benefiting-all-stakeholders-or

👍 l0k1, phibetaiota, carbunco10

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@fingolfin · Mar 29 '17

What about fixing the editor? People not being able to write a post seems like more than a minor issue...

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@fortified · Mar 28 '17

$3.12

Hello @Steemitblog and friends.
Thank you @Steemit and everyone involved. I have a lot to thank this platform for. Steemit has taught me about crypto-currencies and encouraged me to buy my first bit coin. I am currently the proud owner of 0.4 bit coin. 
I have a couple of things I'm hoping the community could help me with. (Please let me know if this is the wrong place for me to ask such questions and I will happily delete)

**1** Could someone point me in the direction of an easy to understand reference guide for the steemit platform? Thanks

**2** During this years Cicada 3301 puzzle apparently a new type of algorithm for a new type of decentralized encryption was revealed to us. It is way over my head. So I was **hoping some of you clever crypto people could check it out** and tell me what the heck it is and **is it as important as Cicada claims**.

I have made 2 recnt posts about it [here](https://steemit.com/crypto/@fortified/cicada-3301-or-a-binary-quantum-encryption-model-based-on-dna) and [here](https://steemit.com/science/@fortified/cicada-3301-or-a-quantum-encryption-model-based-on-dna-pt2) (Apologizes for the spaminess of this comment but I generally don't know where to go with this)  
Thanks

👍 blocktrades, whatsup

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@timcliff · Mar 29 '17

Here is another good guide that has a lot of useful info: https://steemit.com/welcome

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@whatsup · Mar 29 '17 (edited)

$0.02

Hi @fortified - Here is a faq https://steemit.com/faq.html
I find sometimes it is easiest just to make a post and tag help when you need assistance.
Also some of hang out on various chats.    You can usually find someone alive at https://discord.gg/eYQ9R  We can answer a lot of questions.

👍 whatsup

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@fortified · Mar 29 '17

$0.02

I've just recently started a Dicord so that is mighty handy.
Thank you kindly.

👍 whatsup

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@grildrig · Mar 29 '17

Of course, everything is solved by trial and error. Most likely this innovation will be an intermediate variant between something big.
But if this path is chosen, then go ahead!

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@hanjo42 · Mar 30 '17

Very good News, I have some good ideas of apps but i'm just learning coding since two week. plus i had learned html basic coding 10 days ago.

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@inber · Mar 30 '17

I'm sorry to ask, but I can't figure it out myself: what is upvote lockout?

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@aksinya · Mar 30 '17

me too))) there is a discussion above in the comments))

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@inertia · Mar 28 '17

Will the steem power delegation limbo also increase by 12 hours?

👍 thedegensloth, carbunco10

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@abit · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

?

Edit: for the 12 hours thing, please read @andrarchy's replies to this post.

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@jesta · Mar 28 '17

The limbo for steem power delegation isn't changing afaik.

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@jamesebissonette · Mar 29 '17

This is amazing.  As a new Steemian I am excited to see that new changes are being implemented so often.  Thanks for all the hard work, guys & gals.

👍 unmean-stweets

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@unmean-stweets · Mar 30 '17

So you were in on steemit at the right time. Time to mine with your mind!

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@jamtaylor · Mar 28 '17

This is gonna be good. Looking forward to seeing how the designated steem power works.

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@kevinwong · Mar 29 '17

$0.08

> What's most exciting for me is how we worked with the witnesses to accomplish this. There will be a new hardfork protocol that reflects the lessons learned here, but that's for another post.

Others are cool, and this will be a great addition. Great job guys!

👍 timcliff

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@kingscrown · Mar 29 '17

$1.30

so something that Streemian is doing will be built in here? *Delegated Bandwidth: You can now delegate any part of your SP to other users to vote for you. Whales, this is your cue to sponsor the best curators and content creators you can find!*

👍 rossco99, boatymcboatface, kingscrown, theshell, luisucv34, businesswri

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@jesta · Mar 29 '17

Not the same thing really. Delegating Bandwidth I believe is Ned talking about Delegating SP/Vests. You can basically lend someone your SP, and they can use it to participate on the site and distribute rewards/earn curation.

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@liberosist · Mar 29 '17 (edited)

$7.28

To the best of my knowledge, please feel free to point out errors. 

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|--------------|---|---|
| Who gets curation rewards? |  Follower**** | Curator  | 
| Delegate to multiple curators | Yes | Yes | 
| Voting strength decided by* | Follower | Curator | 
| Can delegate SP being powered down?  | Yes  |  No |   
| Can power down already delegated SP?  | Yes  |  No |   
| Follower can vote on other posts with delegated SP?   | Yes  | No  | 
| Delay between votes   | Yes (bot speed) | No**  | 
| Time to cancel delegation | Immediate | 7 days*** | 

*Though the follower/delegator can choose to delegate a set amount of SP. 
**It would be as if the SP was yours - your vote counts the delegated SP. So, yes, if a whale delegates to a minnow, a minnow might see their vote push up the pending payout by several dollars. 
***The delegation is canceled immediately, but it'll be 7 days before you can use the SP to vote again.
****The curator also earns rewards from their own SP. However, follower gets to keep all rewards from the delegated SP, depending on the position of the vote. The curator does see increased curation rewards contributed from votes added by the follower, but limited by the SP they own. In the case of Delegated SP method, curator keeps all curation rewards directly, from SP they own + delegated to them.

👍 kevinwong, rossco99, infovore, pfunk, dunia, demotruk, boatymcboatface, kingscrown, theshell, deanliu, cestlavie, soushi888

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@abit · Mar 29 '17

$0.06

You're correct. This feature is a gift for the real curator but not the original SP holder.

👍 jaki01

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@l0k1 · Mar 29 '17

Can delegate when powering down?	Yes	No

I think this doesn't apply to new SP awarded since starting the powerdown, as the powerdown calculation is based on the total at the time. So if you are powering down, throw on a few thousand SP, this extra can be delegated. Also, I'm not certain, but I think you can set how much of your SP you are powering down, I could be wrong about that.

"Delay between votes" is kinda irrelevant in this because the delegated SP is de facto the possession of the curator.

Yes, it's important to note that delegating SP benefits the SP of the curator, not the delegator. Also, with Streemian, the operator gets their own (should be larger) share of the curation rewards and followers progressively get less the later the bot puts their vote on.

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@smooth · Mar 29 '17 (edited)

In the case of following, both get curation rewards. The reward to the curator is boosted by the followers but the folowers can get some too (progressively less for those later in the chain)

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@klye · Mar 28 '17

Hell yeah! This is good news. :)

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@l0k1 · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

$0.09

Still no change to the curve but at least no splitting and countermeasures against whale's upvoting their shitpost, that put the tool in our hands. This is a step in the right direction. I just finished my compleat witness docker management system, just caught the last bug and now it only needs documentation - and my primary node was out of date anyway (and I'm upgrading it from ubuntu to arch as well), so a rebuild was going to happen anyway. Now it can be to 18! woo!

If only I could now bloody get to sleep and stop playing with my computer.

<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1m9xz1"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1m9xz1.jpg" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

👍 tomino, ocrdu, phibetaiota

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@lighteye · Mar 29 '17

$1.76

Are there any changes to four post daily limit, and will there be some info on it?

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acidsun	4,066,422,611	16.5%
carlos-cabeza	1,108,545,425	33%
instructor2121	12,761,513,136	33%
lola-carola	402,008,464	33%
drinkzya	2,459,216,624	33%
pangur-ban	942,545,530	33%
ratel	7,231,239,934	33%
thecryptodrive	57,270,834,605	33%
grandpere	25,806,353,213	33%
albertogm	9,607,533,787	33%
crok	2,219,688,045	33%
christoph3	1,243,087,833	33%
tyler-fletcher	1,785,704,916	33%
razvanelulmarin	4,724,594,835	33%
skapaneas	8,784,804,623	33%
venuspcs	29,448,104,290	33%
sgtechservices	7,193,624,027	33%
mrwang	10,432,475,603	33%
vl248	3,777,512,295	33%
jesta	104,304,627,296	10%
dwinblood	40,001,779,984	33%
jaycobbell	4,028,021,280	33%
condra	15,508,604,063	33%
raymondspeaks	4,673,920,606	33%
luisucv34	2,406,164,081	33%
phenom	10,445,739,321	33%
bitcoiner	20,653,227,666	33%
jedau	5,397,660,069	33%
kooshikoo	1,995,597,918	6.6%
tygergamer	11,452,303,734	33%
nelu.ceban	690,680,196	33%
bkkshadow	4,621,888,290	6.6%
steemdrive	400,062,331	33%
gomeravibz	1,801,769,412	6.6%
always1success	2,595,281,320	33%
littleboo	399,784,248	33%
stephen.king989	9,839,522,731	23.1%
shiri	550,322,451	33%
dolov	586,707,834	9.9%
vegascomic	1,888,822,142	33%
jayfox	668,078,942	33%
seadroo22	1,276,152,545	33%
chanbam	659,873,190	33%
dollarvigilante	306,652,790,779	33%
anotherjoe	78,670,864,430	33%
serejandmyself	69,044,594,168	33%
mrlogic	2,845,249,479	33%
barrycooper	54,840,166,604	33%
hilarski	74,377,982,029	33%
leno4ek	708,943,910	33%
escapeamericanow	1,643,656,531	33%
nulliusinverba	3,467,248,638	33%
charlie777pt	7,886,237,312	33%
mikehere	7,613,723,773	33%
randomli	678,748,903	33%
kralizec	1,445,524,287	33%
zettar	462,383,005	33%
ebargains	13,222,401,123	33%
kiwideb	18,498,460,267	33%
jacobts	705,885,057	3.3%
dexter-k	23,651,793,647	33%
charlieshrem	85,947,404,671	33%
tracemayer	19,073,222,156	33%
burnin	5,599,230,023	33%
develcuy	1,816,893,720	33%
haphazard-hstead	10,391,652,748	33%
fortinbuff	8,729,068,165	33%
luzcypher	24,023,222,204	33%
grisha-danunaher	4,623,240,928	19.8%
dylanhobalart	5,401,650,885	33%
killbis	2,269,242,786	33%
food-creator	2,063,522,174	33%
orenshani7	2,388,519,893	33%
steemtrail	23,694,480,682	33%
rgeddes	661,403,613	19.8%
marialin	2,253,762,595	33%
tdv.witness	9,315,597,295	33%
ianboil	1,068,306,699	33%
ebryans	4,820,393,109	16.5%
jessamynorchard	9,104,477,721	33%
sstefan	3,619,861,069	19.8%
unipsycho	13,258,582,539	33%
maxse	1,064,089,068	33%
gardening-trail	2,724,734,774	33%
foraging-trail	1,175,627,777	33%
nikflossus	12,633,501,001	33%
baerdric	7,243,318,764	33%
alex1983ch	1,401,290,775	33%
technovedanta	9,576,019,156	33%
yadamaniart	8,741,018,959	33%
sellergenius	759,142,113	33%
steemittalk	2,970,047,845	33%
gildar	1,286,812,744	33%
saleg25	476,305,509	16.5%
soushi888	10,289,780,145	100%
meysam	3,358,659,673	33%
pizzagate-trail	759,767,338	33%
steemit.news	497,106,478	33%
simply1moore	462,146,954	33%
tamersameeh	230,367,805	33%
steemnews.online	1,677,230,821	33%
adambalm	4,708,607,841	33%
ilovebatcatstew	1,459,087,900	33%
michaeladamparis	1,936,783,248	9.9%
lastminuteman	12,473,515,768	9.9%
alohaoy	518,976,516	33%
cheah	4,137,998,301	33%
fiction-trail	1,428,221,746	33%
kostaslou	573,524,627	33%
zkalemiss	2,635,276,695	33%
playfulfoodie	3,235,008,605	16.5%
jasonrussell	3,717,628,614	33%
wwwords	964,992,440	33%
poetry-trail	733,792,025	33%
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catharcissism	2,485,377,631	33%
ogochukwu	2,113,486,916	33%
tonylondon	331,845,373	33%
paolobeneforti	3,771,353,596	16.5%
silviabeneforti	1,752,128,124	16.5%
darth-cryptic	483,529,389	33%
cfreidsma	1,039,803,555	16.5%
resteemer	457,924,879	33%
evildeathcore	665,374,979	33%
frocush	895,560,307	33%
heikomahr	1,421,027,819	33%
mrkenny	518,205,208	33%
unusualconcept	347,229,769	33%
luxio	417,433,603	33%
unmean-stweets	5,132,574,284	100%

@jesta · Mar 29 '17

$1.09

4 post limit is gone.

👍 liondani, lighteye

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@l0k1 · Mar 29 '17

As the OP says, all of the original HF17 is in HF18, except the split to comment pool. This means no more 4 post limit. (if I remember correctly)

<blockquote><ul><li>Plus all previous HF 17 updates</li></ul></blockquote>

👍 lighteye

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@unmean-stweets · Mar 29 '17

$1.64

Thinking that will happen with the upcoming steemit upgrade or hardfork!
Nice Question in your comment! Hope you find additional answers!
https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://i.imgsafe.org/f5b18977d9.png

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pheonike	18,367,808,889	9.9%
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acidsun	4,066,422,611	16.5%
carlos-cabeza	1,108,545,425	33%
instructor2121	12,761,513,136	33%
lola-carola	402,008,464	33%
drinkzya	2,459,216,624	33%
pangur-ban	942,545,530	33%
ratel	7,231,239,934	33%
thecryptodrive	57,270,834,605	33%
grandpere	25,806,353,213	33%
albertogm	9,607,533,787	33%
crok	2,219,688,045	33%
christoph3	1,243,087,833	33%
tyler-fletcher	1,785,704,916	33%
razvanelulmarin	4,724,594,835	33%
skapaneas	8,784,804,623	33%
venuspcs	29,448,104,290	33%
sgtechservices	7,193,624,027	33%
mrwang	10,432,475,603	33%
vl248	3,777,512,295	33%
dwinblood	40,001,779,984	33%
jaycobbell	4,028,021,280	33%
condra	15,508,604,063	33%
raymondspeaks	4,673,920,606	33%
luisucv34	2,406,164,081	33%
phenom	10,445,739,321	33%
bitcoiner	18,587,904,900	33%
jedau	5,397,660,069	33%
kooshikoo	1,995,597,918	6.6%
tygergamer	11,452,303,734	33%
nelu.ceban	690,680,196	33%
bkkshadow	4,621,888,290	6.6%
steemdrive	400,062,331	33%
gomeravibz	1,801,769,620	6.6%
always1success	2,595,281,320	33%
littleboo	399,784,248	33%
stephen.king989	9,839,522,731	23.1%
shiri	550,322,451	33%
dolov	586,707,834	9.9%
vegascomic	1,888,822,142	33%
jayfox	668,078,942	33%
seadroo22	1,276,152,545	33%
chanbam	659,873,190	33%
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serejandmyself	69,044,594,168	33%
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hilarski	66,113,761,804	33%
leno4ek	708,943,910	33%
escapeamericanow	1,643,656,531	33%
nulliusinverba	3,467,248,638	33%
charlie777pt	7,886,237,312	33%
mikehere	7,613,723,773	33%
randomli	678,748,903	33%
kralizec	1,445,524,287	33%
zettar	462,383,005	33%
ebargains	13,222,401,123	33%
kiwideb	18,498,460,267	33%
jacobts	705,885,057	3.3%
dexter-k	23,651,793,647	33%
charlieshrem	85,948,662,108	33%
tracemayer	19,073,222,156	33%
burnin	5,599,230,023	33%
develcuy	1,816,893,720	33%
haphazard-hstead	10,391,652,748	33%
fortinbuff	8,729,068,165	33%
lighteye	3,727,523,049	100%
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grisha-danunaher	4,623,240,928	19.8%
dylanhobalart	5,401,650,885	33%
killbis	2,269,242,786	33%
food-creator	2,063,522,174	33%
orenshani7	2,388,519,893	33%
steemtrail	23,694,480,682	33%
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ianboil	1,068,306,699	33%
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jessamynorchard	9,104,477,721	33%
sstefan	3,619,861,069	19.8%
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maxse	1,064,089,068	33%
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foraging-trail	1,175,627,777	33%
nikflossus	12,633,501,001	33%
baerdric	7,243,318,764	33%
alex1983ch	1,401,290,775	33%
technovedanta	9,576,019,156	33%
yadamaniart	8,158,284,362	33%
sellergenius	759,142,113	33%
steemittalk	2,970,047,845	33%
gildar	1,286,812,744	33%
saleg25	476,305,509	16.5%
meysam	3,358,659,673	33%
pizzagate-trail	759,767,338	33%
afrog	30,387,219,945	100%
steemit.news	497,106,478	33%
simply1moore	462,146,954	33%
tamersameeh	230,367,805	33%
steemnews.online	1,677,230,821	33%
adambalm	4,708,607,841	33%
ilovebatcatstew	1,459,087,900	33%
michaeladamparis	1,936,783,248	9.9%
lastminuteman	12,473,515,768	9.9%
alohaoy	518,976,516	33%
cheah	4,137,998,301	33%
fiction-trail	1,428,221,746	33%
kostaslou	573,524,627	33%
zkalemiss	2,635,276,695	33%
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jasonrussell	3,717,628,614	33%
wwwords	964,992,440	33%
poetry-trail	733,792,025	33%
killinhersoftly	892,933,628	33%
catharcissism	2,485,377,631	33%
ogochukwu	2,113,486,916	33%
tonylondon	331,845,373	33%
paolobeneforti	3,771,353,596	16.5%
silviabeneforti	1,752,128,124	16.5%
darth-cryptic	483,529,389	33%
cfreidsma	1,039,803,555	16.5%
resteemer	457,924,879	33%
evildeathcore	665,374,979	33%
frocush	895,560,307	33%
heikomahr	1,421,027,819	33%
mrkenny	518,205,208	33%
unusualconcept	347,229,769	33%
luxio	417,433,603	33%

@lighteye · Mar 29 '17

$1.65

I would like to thank all of you who express support for this question with a [special “Hardforking” edition of a B(lock)C(hain) comic](https://steemit.com/comic/@lighteye/b-c-stands-for-blockchain-feb-6-2017-hardforking)

# [Thank You All!](https://steemit.com/comic/@lighteye/b-c-stands-for-blockchain-feb-6-2017-hardforking)

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nomoreheroes7	6,190,938,182	33%
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drinkzya	2,459,682,330	33%
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ratel	6,677,425,685	33%
thecryptodrive	57,360,772,085	33%
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luisucv34	3,021,061,975	33%
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nelu.ceban	690,783,316	33%
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develcuy	1,817,257,969	33%
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fortinbuff	8,732,008,764	33%
luzcypher	24,086,780,750	33%
grisha-danunaher	4,657,449,827	19.8%
dylanhobalart	5,943,654,683	33%
killbis	2,269,665,248	33%
food-creator	1,834,584,558	33%
orenshani7	2,389,149,844	33%
steemtrail	23,746,666,018	33%
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marialin	1,972,541,449	33%
tdv.witness	9,318,544,551	33%
ianboil	961,571,457	33%
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sstefan	3,639,948,132	19.8%
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maxse	1,064,354,770	33%
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foraging-trail	1,175,907,201	33%
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baerdric	7,245,843,559	33%
alex1983ch	1,499,922,743	33%
technovedanta	9,579,192,612	33%
yadamaniart	8,160,985,460	33%
sellergenius	674,872,825	33%
steemittalk	2,970,603,365	33%
gildar	1,103,248,054	33%
saleg25	423,399,307	16.5%
meysam	2,705,580,092	33%
pizzagate-trail	759,787,297	33%
afrog	30,387,219,945	100%
steemit.news	497,126,436	33%
simply1moore	462,213,484	33%
tamersameeh	230,376,121	33%
steemnews.online	1,816,417,999	33%
adambalm	4,146,204,500	33%
ilovebatcatstew	1,459,410,568	33%
michaeladamparis	1,936,964,125	9.9%
lastminuteman	12,481,994,928	9.9%
alohaoy	461,377,325	33%
cheah	3,725,364,194	33%
fiction-trail	1,428,544,413	33%
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@luisucv34 · Mar 28 '17

Excellent news, great job Steemit.

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@lukestokes · Mar 28 '17

Woo hoo! **Steem On!**

Great work, everyone.

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@meesterboom · Mar 28 '17

$0.20

Flaming hot donkeys! The comment nesting limit! Its been a long farewell but golly I am glad to see it go (and yes I know its now 255!) 

**Viva consensus!**

👍 zurvanic, edje, businesswri

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@edje · Mar 28 '17

Super indeed!

For a next release I opt for:

- better view of comments and replies, more like folder view and list of posts commented/replied on
- detailed search on own comment/replies/post

Reason: Google search does not work that well, espacially not for very recent work

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@good-karma · Mar 29 '17

Yeah, comment nesting will be mess :D just kidding
Which gives us, UI developers challenge to make it less of an issue...

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@meesterboom · Mar 29 '17

Lol, it does give you a mighty challenge but I have no doubt you will rise to it like a phoenix from the ashes! :O)

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@merej99 · Mar 28 '17

$0.17

![IMG_2525.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmUaKzdvPwt7Enf1AH5vDABCFn2A3vV4wBuStNDhoaXw6k/IMG_2525.JPG)

### Why yes, I may pop one of these to celebrate!
Great job in reaching consensus.  I'm looking forward to the changes.

## QUESTION
How will existing/current posts be handled if there is a pending 30-day post payout?

👍 timcliff, ausbitbank, krystle, christoph3, steemleak

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@abit · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

Those posts will still be paid on time.

//Edit: one exception, for example, if you reply to a post which is 28 days old, you'll get the reward after 7 days but not 2 days.

👍 timcliff

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@merej99 · Mar 28 '17

Thanks @abit! Good to know :)

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@noganoo · Mar 28 '17

$0.19

I am so excited for delegated voting.  Now I don't need to spam the blockchain with 2000 bots anymore and I am a baby dolphin!  Thanks for the great news, Ned!  Long Live Steemit!

👍 zurvanic, noganoo, fbechstein, arisa, evildeathcore, helicopter, tamersameeh, seth-krings, carbunco10

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@abit · Mar 29 '17

There is a limit:
> "Account must delegate a minimum of 10x current account registration fee"

Hopefully the fee will be reduced greatly though.. let's see.

Same rule applies to power-downs. So if an account has enough SP to be able to do SP delegation, it can move the SP to another account directly. Delegated SP can't be moved by powering down. SP in powering down mode can't be delegated.

👍 timcliff

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@nspart · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

$0.30

Did I read that right the first Pay Period is now 7 Days? 

How is that going to change anything? Most posts make very little in the second pay period. It just seems now it will take longer to get paid if I understand this correctly.

Ongoing payments for as long as the content is up is what we need.

👍 snowflake, edje, jamtaylor, karenmckersie, lighteye, carrinm, sulev, realme, randyclemens, jasonrussell, sokal, ksena, dolov, evildeathcore

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@edje · Mar 28 '17

That is indeed very logical view. I do like to understand the reasons why this is not the case. Technical? Abuse prevention?

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@pharesim · Mar 28 '17

$0.06

Yes. You can move 7.6% of your SP to another account every week.

👍 jesta, edje

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@jamtaylor · Mar 28 '17

$0.22

Absolutely agree.  Old posts should be rewarded and brought back into trending if somebody in 2 years finds it good enough to upvote or interact with. The chances are still low, but they should still be available.

👍 jaki01, everittdmickey, nspart, uwelang, lighteye, realme

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@nspart · Mar 28 '17

$0.19

This is how content creators make their living. All Youtubers and Bloggers make money off of their content as long as it stays up. That's how you build real income. Getting paid once or twice is no a good model for a content creator and smart content creators that produce quality content know this.

This needs to change.

👍 snowflake, jaki01, andrew0, jamtaylor, lighteye, carrinm, sulev, randyclemens, jasonrussell, ksena, dolov, evildeathcore

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@merej99 · Mar 28 '17

$0.08

If I'm correct, I believe the first payout (at 7 days) is the ONLY payout.
Personally I would love to see a compromise. If we get to the point where users have a true profile page, I would love the option of selecting up to 10 posts for indefinite payouts with the ability to rotate them if I want to. Heck, I've got a couple tutorials on the Welcome Page. It would be nice to have some residual STEEM come in! ***But I'm not complaining.*** Hopefully this will reach consensus in the near future.

👍 jaki01, nspart

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@nspart · Mar 28 '17

$0.06

They should all be infinate payout if Steemit want to bring big name quality content creators on board. 

Right now Steemit is almost like a Casino every one hoping Steem will take off and make them rich. That's not a good model for long term success or sustainability. 

You think big name bloggers would bring their following to place where they can get paid only once or twice and take them away from their blog where ads pay perpetually?

Only if steem was insanely high price with payouts like they had before they might and then as soon as it dipped they'd go back to focusing on perpetual income.

If steemit wants quality exclusive content and users with followings it will have to make the payout period perpetual in my opinion otherwise it will be used as just an additional place to post content that is already elsewhere.

👍 jaki01

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@robrigo · Mar 28 '17

$0.41

@sneak mentioned that this change is related to scalability in another thread. Simplifying this makes it easier to bound the memory or something.

👍 demotruk, jesta

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@old-guy-photos · Mar 28 '17

Good to see the powers that be are still engaged at the helm...

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@p0o-dev · Mar 29 '17

Great stuff guys

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@paradise-found · Mar 28 '17

Great news for all Steemians!!  Thanks guys!!

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@rahul.stan · Mar 29 '17

What kind of apps are eligible for reward splitting? Like esteem and esteem8 ? Or streemian and autovoter?

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@robertdurst10 · Mar 28 '17

Exciting stuff!

👍 carbunco10

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@skapaneas · Mar 29 '17

Wow. Love me some good news. Great job guys can't wait to see where we go from here..

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@steemitqa · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

It seems to be on.
edit: Nice subtle  shot at Yours also :P

👍 lovemetouchme2, carbunco10

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@businesswri · Mar 28 '17

Nice edit :V

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@steemitqa · Mar 28 '17

I edit good!

@steemitqa · Mar 28 '17

$0.02

Meaning the Competitor of  Yours . As related to the title, " New Features are <b>Yours</b> on Thursday, March 30th at 11am EST!"

👍 whatsup

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@surfermarly · Mar 28 '17

**It´s milestone week, yeah!**
Thanks for the update. To be honest I am  even more curious about the news to be announced on Friday :)

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@tarazkp · Mar 29 '17

Will there be some regular updates in the beginning about how this is progressing and the impacts it has on relevant areas? Perhaps how usage trends change and any negative aspects.

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@tfeldman · Mar 29 '17

Steem to the moon!!

👍 businesswri

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@thecryptofiend · Mar 28 '17

Cool.  Let's unite and move forward now.  Even if things don't work as planned we can always change again.  Right now we need to try out new things and see what works best - it will be much harder when we are bigger.

👍 azfix

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@azfix · Mar 28 '17

$0.12

I agree, the more we work together the more likely we will be able to get through challenges and growing pains.

👍 thecryptofiend, middle-theory

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@thedegensloth · Mar 28 '17

39 years later and we have some progress. I look forward to seeing the community grow much more over the next few updates. Changes that will be coming to the community and site I'm really excited for.

👍 businesswri, devordie, steemitgamer, thedegensloth, carbunco10

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@theghost1980 · Mar 28 '17

$0.08

Hi there @ned thanks for posting such good news, also thanks for all the hard work of the @steemit team. I did a Spanish translation of this post. As the Spanish community is getting bigger, they also need to be updated with every news. I excuse myself for not asking you permission before, to translate it (which is the way I do it, always), but I guess that you being so busy and some news just need to be released very fast.
Thanks and have a nice day!
the Spanish post: https://steemit.com/spanish/@theghost1980/consenso-alcanzado-para-hardfork-17-18-las-nuevas-caracteristicas-son-vuestras-este-jueves-30-de-marzo-a-las-11am-hora-del-este

👍 timcliff, businesswri

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@timsaid · Mar 28 '17

Great work guys. I'm exited to hear what's coming  Friday. 

Steem on!

👍 carbunco10

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@virtualgrowth · Mar 29 '17

Great to hear about

>Delegated Bandwidth & Arbitrary Reward Splitting

Look forward to hunting for information on these.
*gone to hunt for the links since I didn't notice them above...*

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@voronoi · Mar 28 '17

Awesome work Steemit Team! Looking forward to more announcements come Friday. Shaping up to be a busy week :)

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@whatageek · Mar 28 '17

Indeed

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@waguilera · Mar 30 '17

How do you think this will affect the price of STEEM on the trading scene?

👍 waguilera

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@whatageek · Mar 28 '17

$0.26

From no updates to two, when you guys are ready you move fast.

👍 andrarchy, l0k1, whatageek

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@whatsup · Mar 29 '17

$0.02

Great news, when will the wittnesses adopt the new code?

👍 whatsup, businesswri

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@jesta · Mar 29 '17

$0.02

The code was released this afternoon (EST), so many witnesses are still in the process of upgrading. Many should show up over the next 24 hours I'd imagine.

👍 whatsup

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@whatsup · Mar 29 '17

Thank you!  I appreciate your communication.

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@yenkhanh · Mar 29 '17

wait and see!

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@zurvanic · Mar 28 '17

$6.66

Delegated bandwidth gives us a lot of curation options, while arbitrary reward splitting really opens the path to building businesses on the Steem blockchain. 

I can't express how excited I am to see reward splitting finally  here. Giving devs and business-people monetary incentives is going to have amazing consequences.

Get thinking Steemians! New pathways open up right now!

👍 blocktrades, kevinwong, zurvanic, jaki01, exyle, ausbitbank, voronoi, whatsup, bryan-imhoff, krystle, matrixdweller, okean123, paolobeneforti, christoph3, businesswri, steemleak, troyvandeventer, cassyo, satoshey, momoy

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@nspart · Mar 28 '17

Doe that have to be with an app or can say two people work on something and split the rewards when they both post it?

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@abit · Mar 28 '17 (edited)

The back end will be ready. But still need a UI. So stay tuned.

Edit: only one post, not 2 people both post a post.

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@whatageek · Mar 28 '17

$0.33

Yeah it can lead to a lot of adoption of the currency. Steemit is great but when steem is used around the net for different things that is when you will really see the value increase.

👍 zurvanic, jaki01, cassyo, satoshey

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@zurvanic · Mar 28 '17

$0.22

Precisely, that's the network effect at work. Arbitrary rewards are the gateway to useful services that appear 'free' but are in fact compensated with a % of the Steem rewards. It will be a big deal.

👍 jaki01, l0k1, whatageek

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voter	rshares	pct
noganoo	8,688,321,606	100%
arisa	3,104,962,192	100%
seth-krings	145,827,145	100%
helicopter	678,068,926	100%
tamersameeh	575,899,760	100%
fbechstein	4,875,322,250	100%
zurvanic	375,376,820,770	100%
evildeathcore	1,330,653,487	100%
carbunco10	83,970,642	100%

voter	rshares	pct
jamtaylor	14,412,404,130	6%
realme	2,235,207,021	100%
karenmckersie	4,657,371,515	5%
sokal	684,254,100	6%
sulev	2,921,059,172	6%
snowflake	524,888,312,545	41%
dolov	390,660,361	3.6%
randyclemens	794,019,610	6%
carrinm	3,565,968,560	1.2%
ksena	448,709,950	4.8%
lighteye	3,592,520,458	100%
edje	22,830,449,781	100%
jasonrussell	740,421,595	6%
evildeathcore	332,665,866	6%

voter	rshares	pct
jamtaylor	14,412,489,582	6%
sulev	2,921,072,894	6%
andrew0	15,463,216,413	100%
snowflake	209,955,325,018	14%
dolov	390,662,440	3.6%
randyclemens	794,022,937	6%
carrinm	3,565,980,827	1.2%
ksena	448,711,821	4.8%
lighteye	3,592,520,458	100%
jaki01	132,786,181,676	50%
jasonrussell	740,424,506	6%
evildeathcore	332,666,074	6%

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lovemetouchme2	0 B		2,192,421,873	28%
carbunco10	0 B		83,970,642	100%

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voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
thecryptofiend	0 B		249,423,409,444	25%
middle-theory	0 B		2,795,397,378	25%

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
timcliff	0 B		180,296,999,850	84%
businesswri	0 B		3,286,721,471	100%

voter	rshares	pct
andrarchy	343,506,365,628	52%
l0k1	147,083,082,325	100%
whatageek	24,823,674,222	100%

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voter	rshares	pct
blocktrades	3,594,507,655,431	6%
cassyo	428,300,884	100%
kevinwong	1,158,832,595,519	100%
christoph3	3,728,930,426	100%
ausbitbank	126,974,396,399	100%
krystle	32,879,218,981	100%
exyle	145,898,612,615	30%
steemleak	1,870,963,326	100%
bryan-imhoff	44,562,942,769	100%
matrixdweller	28,228,702,352	100%
whatsup	51,481,901,899	100%
okean123	9,454,919,353	100%
jaki01	278,850,981,520	100%
voronoi	103,770,059,249	100%
paolobeneforti	9,428,608,533	50%
zurvanic	375,376,820,770	100%
troyvandeventer	1,176,665,970	100%
businesswri	3,286,699,848	100%
satoshey	363,898,843	100%
momoy	349,285,847	100%