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Tron and Steemit Join Forces
![Tron Steemit thumb.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcEUAAhRytSLHaLZo9KTTzMHGv7VMKyA3EPc89VLMugxK/Tron%20Steemit%20thumb.jpg)

Hello Steemians, as many of you know, last Friday TRON Foundation announced that it had completed a strategic partnership with Steemit Inc. We are super excited about the partnership and we would like to respond to some of the concerns of the community. 

Since the announcement of the partnership, these two teams have been working hard to connect with one another and sync up about our respective roadmaps.

<h1>Developing a Joint Roadmap</h1>

The TRON and Steemit Teams are planning to work together to develop an engineering roadmap that ultimately enables the TRON and Steem ecosystems to form a mutually beneficial connection. There are many ways of accomplishing this which deliver incredible value to both the TRON and Steem stakeholders, and we look forward to exploring these possibilities with TRON’s engineering team. 

<h1>The Steemit Team is Safe</h1>

As some of you may know, it wasn’t that long ago (just over a year) that Steemit Inc. faced an existential threat. Since that time we have been able to tighten our belts while shipping products like MIRA and Hivemind, however, we are still a long way off from using ad revenue to fund operations. Now that TRON has partnered with Steemit Inc., our future is more secure than ever.   

<h1>Delivering on Our Promises</h1>

@justinsunsteemit and his team have made it clear that the most important thing to them is that we deliver on our previous promises. Shipping communities, improving the user experience on steemit.com, and streamlining the sign up process are our top priorities as we work with the TRON Team to develop a longer term roadmap. Once the two teams are able to come to a consensus on the roadmap, that information will be shared with the community. 

<h1>Win-Win</h1>


We believe that this partnership represents a massive opportunity for the Steem community and we are committed to working with the TRON Team to maximize that opportunity. If we can combine TRON’s resources, engineering talent, and industry-leading platform, with our amazing community, 3rd party applications, and unrivaled technology, we are confident that we can dramatically accelerate the adoption of decentralized systems. 

We look forward to continuing our work with you, the Steem community, to accomplish our mission of onboarding the masses to the blockchain.

_The Steemit Team_
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@abdulmanan · 
What about the SmT's?
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@abitcoinskeptic · 
>Once the two teams are able to come to a consensus on the roadmap, that information will be shared with the community.

I like seeing the word **consensus**. Seems good place to start in theory, but concerned about how it plays out in practice.
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@valued-customer · (edited)
Particularly in view of the fact that @justinsunsteemit now holds the stake necessary to control the consensus mechanisms of both Tron and Steem, and has just demonstrated willingness to use that stake contrary to his prior affirmations he would not use it to effect governance of Tron.  His affirmation recently he would not use his stake to effect control of governance of Steem seems untrustworthy in view of his actions on Tron.

Thanks!
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@abitcoinskeptic · 
You are right that certain actions and characteristics of him have eroded trust.
The whole point of the blockchain is we shouldn't have to trust anyone. Just the fact that I need to trust him in any capacity makes him suspect.
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@actifit-peter · 
Your statement sounds good and promising! I am looking forward to all the positive changes ahead of us! Thanks for the information.
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@alexvanaken ·
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Thanks for selling out to the biggest clown in the crypto space
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@animica · 
Sooo
Will steemit keep it's name and will it keep using steem coin or switch to tron?
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@animica · 
Can anyone please explain me.
Will steemit be using Tron for payments etc or both or it will keep using steem?
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@anthonyadavisii ·
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Yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here. I just hope that he won't be using his stake on Steem like he does with TRX. Call me **Elmer FUD** but this doesn't exaclty install with confidence.

![qljuk3.png](https://img.esteem.app/qljuk3.png)


https://steempeak.com/tron/@anthonyadavisii/that-s-not-a-good-look-justin-word-2-my-naysayer-s
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@joeyarnoldvn · 
I didn't know there was a Tron community. How is it doing? If it is not doing well, then we should be talking about that on the assumption that this boat could sink as well.
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@arcange · 
![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/arcange/43GRUGrT-image.png)

Wow, it took you nearly one week to write a 4 paragraphs post full of trivia and non-information (already known to everyone). This demonstrates how Steemit inc. still needs to make progress in communication.

Sorry to say, but the only reason for not downvoting this post is because 50% of the payout goes to steem-dao.
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@arcange · 
Congratulations @steemitblog!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steem Hit Parade](/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20200219) in the following categories:

* Comments - Ranked 1 with 161 comments
* Pending payout - Ranked 1 with $ 152,7
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@atyh · 
don't want Steem bought by a China guy
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@bluengel · 
Steem ♨ On !
♨♨♨

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@bryan-imhoff · 
A bit off topic, but some immediate feedback necessary on the beta features rolling over into the live site....

I can’t seem to find a link to my β€œfeed” anywhere. I can manually append /feed into my browser address bar and see it, at which point β€œmy friends” appears in selection menu with my communities, but it does not appear there natively from the front end in any other manner I can find. This is on iOS, Brave browser in case it’s specific.
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@bil.prag ·
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if you click on Steemit logo (think it is home page) and then click on the **My friends** you will get your feed.

but you can alway try https://beta.steempeak.com/ (should i even do this on steemit post? :) )
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@bryan-imhoff · 
I don’t think anyone minds the SteemPeak plug! They’re friendly rivals! I do need to play around with their beta more. But yeah, the navigation you’re describing used to work on the Steemit beta but has been broken for me for a while. I wasn’t concerned until I see it rolling over into the live site! The β€œfriends” feed does not show up as an option...
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Through any means I have tried normally navigating through links...

But it does magically appear when I manually type in my feed address in my browser search bar, which of course negates the purpose of the link! πŸ˜†
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@build-it · 
Steem for all!
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@coinchaos · 
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@coininstant · 
I thought there was some new app or website release this week? What is it? Or did i miss that announcement?
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@fredrikaa ·
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What Sun mentioned during the AMA was Communities, which is currently on beta.steemit.com. It seems it may be 2 weeks, aka next week, that it'll most likely go live.
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@wehmoen · (edited)
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@khaleelkazi · 
Justin Sun was referring to the release of beta.steemit into production as the β€œnew release”

Posted via <a href="https://steemleo.com/">Steemleo</a>
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@coininstant · 
Yeah i just saw it, and how it shows blacklists listed in red right by my username and homepage. So i’m done with this for good! Very bad devs here! Whatever i’m out! Good luck!!
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@coininstant · 
Justin Sun please fire these witnesses, they are abusing accounts like me!
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@condra · 
Interesting times ahead.
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@conradt · 
![20200215_092127.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmewHYyBbofcBsYStZeiebHwQbU7sLXy1mZZaZQ5a8wu4p/20200215_092127.jpg)
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@demo.com · 
Thanks for update, will check what Tron is up to...
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@dragosroua · (edited)
$0.05
Thanks for the update, it was about time.

I will make a short recap of your post (reflecting, obviously, what I understood from it):

1. Development resources are safe (paid by Tron from now on)
2. Communities are priority (we already see they're rolled out)
3. The partnership gives hope.

Not very reassuring, but at least not catastrophic.

Since I don't see any mentions of SMT, I take it that this is not a priority anymore. Probably a new path, involving TRON tokens, will be approached.

I also don't see, as @netuoso stated, nothing about a specific governance commitment, apart from written promises. These might be useful, to a certain extent - I don't dismiss them entirely, on the contrary, thank you for them - but, as both the Steemit Inc. team and the STEEM community know, blocks can't be signed with written promises. It takes a lot more than that, from cryptographic signatures embedded in a specific software, deployed on machines linked in a network, all this supported with time, money and skills. You can also read the last part simply by saying out loud "witnesses".

Without witnesses, there wouldn't have been any strategic partnership. Without content contributors and curators, there wouldn't have been any strategic partnership.

I'm not feeling taken out from the game, but I certainly, as witness, don't feel like I'm a part of it anymore. On the contrary, seems like the entire concept of STEEM witnesses is quite weakened by this "strategic move".

Would appreciate any answer you have to these concerns.

(upvoted for visibility)
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@drakos · 
Still doesn't say much about what's going to happen concretely.

Meanwhile:
https://imgur.com/5s0hWfE.gif
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@starworld · 
"Still doesn't say much about what's going to happen concretely."

Indeed! I think it's rather hard to lay out the aspects of a business plan, when there is no business plan. Steemit hasn't had a business plan in 2 years...at least not a viable one. What makes you think they have one now?
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@droida · (edited)
What will Steem *Classic* be worth if Steem is a Tron token? 
**Steem should stay Steem** cause *Steem Tron* will be used mainly for gambling and speculating. 
What to do? Let's vote https://dpoll.io/detail/@droida/should-we-fork-sun-out/
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@starworld · 
"What will Steem Classic be worth if Steem is a Tron token?"

Worthless!
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@drutter · 
So now you're being properly paid, you're back to work?
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@edb · 
> Shipping communities, improving the user experience on steemit.com, and streamlining the sign up process are our top priorities as we work with the TRON Team to develop a longer term roadmap. 

Streamlining the sign-up process should be a top priority indeed. But does this mean that SMTs are cancelled? Are you planning to have Steem apps use TRON tokens?
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@eirik · 
Pretty entertaining!
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@epic-fail ·
$0.05
I am still stuck on Suns choice of imagery on Twitter. When you play Jenga, the tower eventually falls down and scatters all the blocks. It may be nothing or it may be a warning to us that he has the power to knock down all the blocks if he doesn't get his way. Or maybe it's his way of showing dominance that he's already toppled us? 

![FJ-eMRN9.jpeg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmapJzBiDwHfZ9jdZZ3DCcF9zvuhTYm8YoC7SaJhFPqvN6/FJ-eMRN9.jpeg)

![Jenga.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcYBBWKa1S7JV1aXoQ1kegAZgRDcXpT9EfeNRobc98Kxh/Jenga.png)

Also, many people have "promised" many things and have gone back on their words. So how can we even "trust" anything you write or say? And, what has been written or said so far about the acquisition is generic and clear as mud at best. You are simply placating Steemians to buy more time.

I think you should create a smart contract that pays all STEEM holders every time you lie, go back on a promise  or misrepresent timelines. This way we don't have to trust you. So each time we get screwed we at least get paid!

I feel sorry for the Steemit Inc employees that were fired due to Ned's incompetence and ego. His ego made him deaf to all suggestions from the STEEM community. Hopefully this time around you will listen to the Witnesses, Developers and STEEM community at large. We have so much talent on this Blockchain but egos need to be put in check. Had he listened, maybe Steemit Inc would have been in a position to make Tron obsolete. But instead, you must Bend the Knee.
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@joeyarnoldvn · 
I agree. I am not sure if we can trust them.
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@epic-fail · 
only trust a Smart Contract
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@felixxx · 
Blink twice, if you are being held captive.
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@freddio · 
i really like the updates in Steemit.com. 

Really nice :)
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@freebornangel · 
Sic semper tyrannus,...
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@epic-fail · 
et tu brute?
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@freebornangel · 
Meh,...
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@geekgirl ·
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What about SMTs? Are they still happening?
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@city-of-dresden ·
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exactly my question. I also miss the SMTs here, given that we are waiting for quite some time for them.
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@deanliu ·
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I assume that you knew that Sun said yes in AMA.

BTW, maybe you can get people pass the Steem Torch to Sun and see how it goes.
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@droida · 
I fear that it will turn it off.
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@geekpowered · 
Well, I have to say the Steemit main page is much improved.
But you should do some tweaks to the posting page. Some improvements to the editor to be more in line with other sites, plus a widget to insert some open source images would be killer.
Everyone on Steemit is posting them, so it shouldn't be that difficult to scrape the common sites and automatically credit the image authors.
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@harsh2308 · 
steemit is a best site any query related to steemit pls contact me

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@lallo · 
So beta.steemit is not more beta?
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@linksman · 
Currently, steem and steem dollars are worth more than the Tron token in the crypto market. So, when you talk about a win-win situation, I ask a win-win for who?????
You guys better wake up and smell the stench in the air!!!!!

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@liondani · 
I guess I can't find a reply from Justin because Bernie was lurking here before me
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@lordbutterfly ·
$0.08
>ultimately enables the TRON and Steem ecosystems to form a mutually beneficial connection. 

I personally see absolutely nothing beneficial TRON may offer me except money to fund you guys.. 

I find TRON to be a centralized piece of shit blockchain that is almost completely controlled by Justin and Binance. (_Kinda kills the point of a blockchain, doesnt it._)

If you get funded to continue working on STEEM, im happy with that.
My biggest fears of Justin attempting a powerplay to become a "De facto" owner of the chain still remains and i think that should be addressed before anything else.
We need to put in safeguards in place. 
We need to keep Steem decentralized and this purchase by Justin clearly shows how vulnerable we really are.
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@oldtimer · 
It's baked in the cake.
Proof of stake bites us in the ass.
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@lordbutterfly · 
Well, not really. The last 2-3 years of inflation really pulled us out of being just like TRON and as time goes on we will become more and more decentralized due to distribution. 
Right now Dolphins+Orcas outweigh Justins stake here. That wasnt the case few years ago. Stinc used to have 50%+ stake in Steem.
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@valued-customer · 
Considering your concerns, I hope you will advocate for changing witness votes to reflect how DPoS should actually work.  Presently 1 Steem = 30 witness votes, which multiplies the advantage large stakeholders have 30x.

It is proposed that 1 Steem = 1 witness vote.  This is how the community of stakeholders should effect governance via DPoS.

Thanks!
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@lordbutterfly · 
Id like to see multiple options be presented and scenarios played out to see which option is the best.
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@smooth · (edited)
It isn't a matter of how it 'should' work. The current system is an approximation of approval voting (in fact, under true approval voting the number of votes would be unlimited, but this was changed not for any governance reason but due to an exploit concerning backup witnesses).

Approval voting has the property of electing the witnesses which are approved by the broadest and maximum amount of voting stake. Under most conditions this would be good, as it sets the maximum threshold for an attacker to come in with a narrow amount of stake and elect witnesses contrary to the broader consensus.

In this case, what people are trying to accomplish is not to represent the broadest and maximum amount of stake, but in fact handicap the largest stakeholder (who in fact has an absolute majority relative to actively voting stake). In a sense, this is exactly the opposite of what good, secure, governance would do.

That being said, it may be a reasonable _tradeoff_ (lower security for less majority control) to limit the influence of the largest stakeholder _in this specific situation_.
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@lukestokes ·
$0.42
Have there been any discussions with the Tron team about the will of the witnesses and the token holders they represent? There have been many concerning posts from the Tron marketing team (including Poloniex) describing a token swap of β€œold Steem” tokens to Tron based tokens. I hope it has been made very clear to the Tron team that the witnesses are ready to support the chain as it is now because that is the job we are elected to do. If the token holders want a change, we’ll listen, state our positions, and they will vote accordingly.

That said, I think the potential for new marketing, promotion, resources, and development could be fantastic for both communities. I hope they join together for mutual benefit while respecting the many years of work and commitment that got us here.

As a witness, I look forward to connecting with the Tron team and discussing the history of this community and what expectations we are facilitating.
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@firstamendment · 
The token swap spells is a hint of the death of the steem chain.  A bigger blow to the steem community could be the air drop as well as the minting process.  We don't even know how many new Steem tokens will be in circulation, and of the new tokens how much the Steem community will own as a percent vs what is gifted to the tron holders who will probably dump them.

As far as witnesses, every 3 seconds or whatever Justin Sun can replace one top witness after another when he is ready.  If you want to save Steem, vote to destroy his ninja mined coins or freeze them and remove his voting rights if at all possible.  If it important to act quickly and before takes control of the top witness nodes.

Justin Sun doesn't appear to be a fan of decentralized chains.  His cofounder quit tron over the issue of not being decentralized.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/tron-co-founder-and-cto-leaves-project-alleging-excessive-centralization . 

As far as Justin Sun and Marketing.  This is how he markets his own coin (language is NSFW).
https://twitter.com/ze_rusty/status/1226511162684010496

Seems quite a few Chinese projects let a single person own a bulk of the coins and distributes a smaller percentage for the rest of the market to fight over, including ribble*...I mean ripple.  While Justin Sun peddles his crap coins, he is able to devour valid decentralized systems and other emerging technology literally for what he admits is crypto crap.  Steem Coin used to be pretty popular in China, I wonder how much power China will have to delete content when the top witnesses are owned by Sun.


![image.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmZBz3ziU7AuVUsQY3rj5ZRE1WfDv1oNKJif3dHR2ffCfm/image.png)

-winnie the pooh aka the Chinese President, owned by Disney or vice versa depending on context.

*  Apparently the Chinese Tron HQ is named Ribble.
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@joeyarnoldvn · 
Are there other good posts out there talking about the potential dangers of Tron, assuming there are some? I should write some articles about these things. I want Tron to prove me wrong and show me that they're not trying to obtain too much power over the Steem blockchain and everything. I don't want to say Tron is doing that but I cannot currently say they aren't. So, I will try to keep my eyes open to everything that is happening.
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@joeyarnoldvn · 
Luke, you are thinking win-win, AKA mutual benefit, and I agree, and I hope they don't try to do what Facebook does. I'm not saying they can. I'm just speaking theoretically to an extent, meaning they could try. I don't know one way or another. I'm just thinking hypothetically, long-term speaking, as I'm concerned with slippery slopes, AKA the ability for good things to declines towards potential risks, problems, relating to censorship. The only thing more critical than censorship might be in regards to the mechanism behind voting for witnesses, who gets to vote, the weight of the votes, the whole system, which could be dangerous if Tron were to have too much power over voting for witnesses. Well, I'm not sure how it works. So, I can't say Tron has too much power. I'm just saying that if they do, then that can be dangerous. But then again, maybe not dangerous. But the possibility is still there.
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@leprechaun · 
They could be thinking of some kind of Pegged-Steem on Tron.
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@namiks · 
>  There have been many concerning posts from the Tron marketing team (including Poloniex) describing a token swap of β€œold Steem” tokens to Tron based tokens. I hope it has been made very clear to the Tron team that the witnesses are ready to support the chain as it is now because that is the job we are elected to do. If the token holders want a change, we’ll listen, state our positions, and they will vote accordingly.

Thanks for giving me another reasonable witness to vote for. This is how change should be addressed.
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@madalchemist · 
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@majkytop · 
Good
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@malekazis · 
And what about the community coming to a consensus regarding those potential changes?" <a href="https://unlockerdownloads.com/unlocker-portable/">unlocker portable</a>
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@mattclarke · 
Haven't heard from the @elipowell account in a while. Is she still with us?
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@elipowell ·
$0.38
Yes! Still here, just super busy with all things...
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@detlev ·
$0.02
Hi @elipowell as I hear in so many posts, the community love to get a clear message of what's happen to:

<H2>

a.) the Steem token

b.) the witness activities from TRON/Steemit

c.) the voting power from Tron/Steemit

</H2>

<H5>Love to get your answer as many people are confused!
Greeting from Europe
@detlev
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@maxsieg · (edited)
"Win win" cooperation. interesting choice of words. Chinese foreign ministers love using it for cooperation like putting countries into debt traps to make countries pay back in natural resources and land being used for military bases. Its a double win for China, like "Win Win".
![](https://steemitimages.com/p/2r8F9rTBenJQfQgENfxADE6EVYabczqmSF5KeWefV5WL9WEeh7A1Fm9YC6PMbZMrhKgdD38Z6mrtbrQx8WLBRUunrdpgXGQtPGjv1hoVttBsBWG6g5YBXuBzoa2uHw6gn?format=match&mode=fit)
I changed my [steemconnect node](https://beta.steemconnect.com/settings) and my steem interface to reduce my exposure from this change. Currently checking which witnesses are decent. Information of other steem nodes are posted there: @fullnodeupdate

also andrarchy reffered to it as an ["Acquisition"](https://steempeak.com/steemit/@andrarchy/my-statement-on-tron-s-acquisition-of-steemit) rather than a partnership...
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@mcoinz79 · 
![5ewhci.jpg](https://img.esteem.app/5ewhci.jpg)
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@mmoriarty · 
Greate news! 
Hope it will be one of the good move to make steemit more stronger!
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@muscara · 
I made a [German translation](/hive-121566/@muscara/uebersetzung-steemitblog-tron-and-steemit-join-forces) for an easier information for the German speaking users.
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@mysearchisover ·
$0.03
Is Steem going to be phased out?
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@namiks ·
$0.06
> Once the two teams are able to come to a consensus on the roadmap, that information will be shared with the community.

And what about the community coming to a consensus regarding those potential changes?
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@starworld · 
"And what about the community coming to a consensus regarding those potential changes?"

Don't count on it. What management does will be done solely to benefit those at the top, not the rest of us. History has proven that fact rather well. They get rich, and the rest of us get virtually nothing.
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@whatsup · 
Only the top 20 witnesses need to reach consensus, the communities' input is via stakebased voting for witnesses.
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@namiks · 
I understand that, it's more of a worry regarding the fact that those witnesses and that entire structure itself is merely ignored with changes being implemented without asking the community to discuss and vote first.
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@netuoso ·
$0.03
And if high ranking witnesses are taking actions you disagree with, I advise you to remove your vote for them or campaign for yourself or other witnesses.
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@netuoso ·
$20.28
SteemIt Inc has controlled a very large portion of the STEEM tokens since its inception. At one point over 50%. Now, SteemIt, Inc retains ownership of about 20% of the entire STEEM token economy.

SteemIt, Inc made various promises and verbal (typed) contracts to the community. SteemIt, Inc even created a hardfork that added the ability for a user to decline the ability to vote for posts or witnesses, or set a witness proxy.

My question is, what is going to happen with these arrangements. What is going to happen with the SteemIt, Inc stake and the millions of tokens that are hiding on various exchanges? Binance has showed that they will use their (purchased?) stake to vote for SRs on Tron.

Will SteemIt/Tron be participating in voting for witnesses via the consensus protocol of Steem? Will SteemIt/Tron be using the company stake to vote for posts? Will SteemIt/Tron use the millions of liquid STEEM tokens to participate in the internal market or the various exchange markets?

I raise these questions in particular due to the fact that @justinsunsteemit has used premined company stake on Tron recently to participate in the consensus protocol by voting for SRs. @justinsunsteemit also uses language like this when discussing his plans for Tron: https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1230224864725700608

![Screen Shot 2020-02-19 at 4.57.29 PM.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXG8s4KPeGJFTFHhqnXEitNFt8TjnXc9hoaYQfzkouQQB/Screen%20Shot%202020-02-19%20at%204.57.29%20PM.png)

As you can tell, @justinsunsteemit idea for how to manage Tron does not really fit with the community and ideals of Steem. Will SteemIt, Inc finally utilize the `decline_voting_rights` operation?

Thanks for your information and I eagerly await your response!
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@anthonyadavisii · 
### Ninjamine. Not even once.

Yeah I know that hindsights 20/20. Wish everybody the best. Prepare your keisters and don't forget!

https://media.giphy.com/media/OCu7zWojqFA1W/giphy.gif
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@epic-fail ·
$0.07
for those who do not know what the Ninja Mine is , our Blockchain has a shady past

https://steemit.com/steemit/@aggroed/a-brief-history-of-the-ninja-mine
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@drakos ·
$0.06
Fall in line or you will be **punished**.
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@anthonyadavisii ·
$0.06
![8o8c6m.png](https://img.esteem.app/8o8c6m.png)

May be a bit much but...

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@tyrnannoght · (edited)
lol @drakos, i see at least someone has been paying attention in the past four years ... disruption of the status quo is nice, but the ninjamined pool still keeps looming to sell off the moment it goes up a cent (as the price showed after the 48hour-bump)

i was hoping they would kill or fix the crooked witness system (which is like the easest to exploit as whales can just claim accounts from SP alone, ) and kill or fix hyper-inflation (kill it since its mathematically impossible to maintain value over time)

instead we get something thats been gathering dust on the shelves and guess what

next thing you know they'll take this 4 year old 8kb custom json thing thats always been there

and call it SMT ... THAT would be something ...

at least they suckered me into making a few replies, but i see steem @ 22 cents , SBD @89 ... i think thats exactly where it was

ofcourse, rejoice because COMMUNITIES !

smile or we shall carve you one, there is no censorship its DOWN(boy)voting, good for the eco-system

and other urban legend lulz , green sales is all about recycling 

"found a billionnaire!"

"watchu gon' do with it?"

"well ... nothing ...."

https://cdn.stackward.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/bob.png

but we DID make some cash on the bump (we as in we, not me)
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@freddio ·
$0.04
would be really nice to know
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@fredrikaa · (edited)
$0.15
I think doing this would be vital not only for the sake of the Steem community, stakeholders and witnesses, but also for Tron to successfully gain the community and dApp ecosystem that they clearly have hoped for (judging by the communications). Many want to believe that this can indeed be a win-win as stated in the article, and removing any doubt that another important promise by Steemit Inc on its use of stake will also be delivered on would do wonders to cement this belief.
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@joeyarnoldvn · 
Good questions and I encourage them towards transparency so that Steem users can be aware of what is happening. I'm going to try to remain open minded between the pros and cons concerning many things. I'm not totally sure what to think at the moment. That's why I'm here.
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@joshman ·
$0.08
> Will SteemIt, Inc finally utilize the decline_voting_rights operation?

This is the sort of signal I would want to see to halt my power downs, and possibly buy more.  Right now the pragmatic thing for me is to get as liquid as possible, as quickly as possible, and wait for clarity.
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@wehmoen · (edited)
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@kingscrown · 
decline_voting_rights doesnt really change anything as they can delegate or move to exchanges and back (you know how mrdelegate and other odd accounts came to life). so in the end its at - do they fullfill promises or not.
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@netuoso · 
It isnt meant to destroy their tokens or value. If thats what you think is "doing something" then that's fair; but I disagree.

They own their tokens. We just want them to show a good faith "contract" to not purposefully use the stake to undermine the consensus layer or the rewards system.

They could always transfer tokens, power down to a new account, etc. But it would be an obvious violation of promises and an indicator of hostility towards  the Steem blockchain and its community.
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@namiks ·
$0.05
> As you can tell, @justinsunsteemit idea for how to manage Tron does not really fit with the community and ideals of Steem.

Exactly this. He needs to be aware that he won't be met with optimism and a warm welcome if he suddenly appears and announces plans that go against the core values of Steem. His lack of understanding of Steem's foundations and lack of interest to communicate with the community should be considered hostility.
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@joeyarnoldvn · 
Amen
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@notconvinced · 
Well put and I am wondering as well on all these points. Justin is not the most trustworthy.
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@valued-customer · 
Presently witness votes multiply the advantage of large stake holders 30x.  @edicted seriously proposes changing witness votes to 1Steem=1vote, which is how DPoS should work to effect governance.

While this change would impact @justinsunsteemit's ability to exercise arbitrary governance of Steem, it would not eliminate his ability to exercise the stake he controls to effect governance of Steem rationally.  I strongly support this proposed change to how governance of Steem is effected.

Thanks!
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@pegarissimo · 
Thank you!  It's clear now and I think it's great news.
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@phgnomo · (edited)
> The Steemit Team is Safe

That's cool, and good for these guys that held on with the community.

But when will the main question be answered:

**Is the steem blockchain safe?**

Is there a swap or not? Will everything move to Tron and the support on the blockchain will cease?

Please, enlighten the community.
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@ragnarokdel · 
I'm looking forward to learning about this roadmap because it's been kind of a clusterfuck until now.
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@netuoso · 
A very poorly executed acquisition indeed.
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@starworld · 
"it's been kind of a clusterfuck until now"

I don't know what a "clusterfuck" is, but if it's anything like a cesspool, I agree 100%.
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@raycoms · 
Might be nice if Steemit Inc would tweet this one here to, so that Justin Sun can retweet it.
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@sepracore · 
I only use my phone to interact with steem. It looks like there is not a feed button on my phone for communities. I have to manually go to my /feed domain to get there. It would be helpful to have a feed button to get there. Just a thought. 😁 I might have missed it.
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@sergiomendes · 
Let's see where it will head. We only can try and be positive rn
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@stackin · 
People are mad as hell πŸ€·πŸΌβ€β™‚οΈπŸ˜‚πŸ˜…

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@whatsup · 
Every day, no matter what the topic is.. Mad as hell.
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@stackin · 
People need to wake up everyday with a smile on their faces like I do :) lol
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@starworld · 
While I fail to see where Steemit has any kind of a sustainable business plan, I am quite certain that nothing will result in the total demise of the Steemit forum platform, more so than will some of Steemit's own Witnesses and long-time members. Witnesses like @themarkymark, his sidekick @buildawhale, and long-time members like @steemcleaners @roomservice @bullionstackers @freebornangel @quarantine @bookguy @mack-bot @the-reef @block-power @blockcreate @steemcleaner and others, have done far more to alienate and drive away Steemit members than has anything else.

These witnesses and members are truly the scum of the earth. They don't give a damn about Steemit beyond having the ability to abuse their power to manipulate the system to their own personal advantage, by making sure that the vast majority of Steemit members get nothing for their curator efforts, while at the same time filling their own corrupt and greedy pockets.

Corrupt Witnesses like @themarkymark have stolen huge amounts of money from curators by manipulating the system in their favor, such as downvoting, and so on. They then end up pocketing the vast majority of the curator award pools for themselves and their friends, while leaving the rest of Steemit members (US) with virtually NOTHING at all!
If you would like to remove your Witness vote now, please go here:

https://steemitwallet.com/~witnesses
Here is the value of @themarkymark Steemit account:

Estimated Account Value: The estimated value is based on an average value of Steem in US dollars.

$134,599.24 (Yes! Almost $135 Thousand Dollars)
https://steemitwallet.com/@themarkymark/transfers 

What is the value of the vast majority of Steemit Accounts?

My bet is that it is ZERO or close to it, and they will likely NEVER increase much beyond that point, if at all, because the Steemit System quite simply is RIGGED against the vast majority of members by the following members:

@steemcleaners
@themarkymark (AKA @buildawhale / AKA @roomservice)
@bullionstackers
@buildawhale (AKA @themarkymark)
@freebornangel
@quarantine (AKA @the-reef / AKA @block-power)
@bookguy
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@roomservice (AKA @themarkymark) 
@block-power (AKA @the-reef / AKA @quarantine)
@blockcreate
@steemcleaner
And Others.

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@manniman · (edited)
check this out, just for you https://steempeak.com/hive-100421/@manniman/oosuezjx

![thumb.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/manniman/7nwD7fBR-thumb.jpg)
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@starworld · 
MUTED!!!
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@starworld · 
See...the prick @themarkymark is now using a downvoting bot to downvote all my posts and comments immediately as I post them.
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@meesterboom ·
$0.05
Isn't that because you have acted like a bit of a prick on the platform as a whole?
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@stealthtrader · 
Will there be any changes or benefits for Steem Power hodlers??
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@droida · (edited)
It seems that the benefits will be for Tron holders only.
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@namiks · 
That's definitely how it appears so far. I want to believe, but the information released has been so sketchy and contradictory that I don't trust Justin in the slightest.
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@starworld · 
"It seems that the benefits will be for Tron holders only."

As well it should be! Steemit's management and Witnesses fucked up Steemit to the point that it nearly went bankrupt last year, and yet they made no positive changes to right the sinking ship, other than get rid of 70% of the crew. @Ned thus decided to throw in the towel and sell off Steemit and Steem assets to Justin Sun/Tron for what ever he could get for them, and I suspect that was not much! 

Steemit and Steem, for what they are worth, now belong to Justin Sun to do with as he pleases. What he does, whether that is to make vast changes, maintain the status quo (which I seriously doubt), or simply shut it down, is entirely up to him and no one else. I can be almost certain that most if not all Steemit witnesses will be gone, and perhaps even their Steem investments included, or at least have them exchanged for Tron's. This writing has been on the wall for over a year now, yet the vast majority of members were too naive to see it, and the rest were too busy milking the system and their fellow members for all they were worth. It's now time to pay the piper.
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@starworld · 
Prison I hope for fraud and theft from the rest of the Steemit members.
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@stuffbyspencer · 
While I appreciate the post, *and I'm definitely hoping for more open communication*, I'd also like to hear specifics.

Here's hoping that this roadmap will finally put some clear answers into place as to what the fuck is happening :^)
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@sumit1998 · 
In new website how do I check the posts by person whom do I follow. I think there is no option for that pls explain.
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@bryan-imhoff · 
Appears to be a glitch in navigation, I commented about it as well. For now you can manually go to your feed by adding /feed to your profile address.

https://steemit.com/@sumit1998/feed
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@supergiant ·
$0.59
whats going on. I want to see my following user's post.
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@geekgirl ·
$0.43
if you are on mobile, you may have to manually enter steemit.com/@supergiant/feed

on desktop β€œmy friends” looks like is the new feed.
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@joeyarnoldvn · 
Thanks, Geek Girl.
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@supergiant ·
$0.37
thanks for your help
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@themanualbot · 
> Once the two teams are able to come to a consensus on the roadmap, that information will be shared with the community.

Two teams on a consensus matter, but how about steem witnesses? Do their voice matters too?
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@udabeu · 
Hey YOU, please keep as transparent as you can.
Let us feel you are honest.
And please please leak every shit to happen early.
Will you ?
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@valued-customer · 
I believe this is a great opportunity to both teams, and communities, as well as for all people of the world.  Society has taken to social media, and crypto combined with social media adds to the benefits society gains from using social media.

>"Shipping communities, improving the user experience on steemit.com, and streamlining the sign up process are our top priorities as we work with the TRON Team to develop a longer term roadmap."

These are all great to get done, but the most important IMHO is improving user experience, because retention has been poor to date on Steem.  Let's focus on getting retention up to industry standard, or better, so that we can enable more people to gain the advantages Steem social media offers society.

Thanks!
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@whatsup · 
Good to hear that the SteemIt, Inc. Team is still safe and I am looking forward to hearing the plans when they are more defined.
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@will94 · 
Awesome! This is fantastic news.  It is so good to see these prominent projects (two of my person favourites by the way) coming together in order to achieve the greater good, especially when it is companies with the significance of these two firms. It never ceases to amaze me that that in the world of blockchain and cryptocurrencies those involved are dedicated to working together to make great projects as opposed to always trying to better one another. I think it is definitely something unique about this industry and it is part of the reason I am such a passionate believer in the future of crypto-assets and the technology that surrounds it as it seems that together the community are so focused on making it works. I would love to see more projects like this in the future. I wonder if anyone else reading this could like to share with me some projects they would like to see work together? I mean, of course, there many already but who else would do you think would make a great team? Let me know :D
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@yonilkar · (edited)
In Steem we trust
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