Bottom line, (and it’s almost always bottom line), it’s charlatans spewing quackery to separate the gullible from their money.

But the real tragedy, as you tried to point out, is the time and life energy that is expended by the followers, on justifying these alternate truths.

It **IS** a better love story than Twilight!

Nice. You open up the internet in the morning and Stefan Molyneux talking about the flat earth is about as good as it gets. 🤪

You mentioned something early that I think is important, that it's easy to go down the rabbit hole into a deadend. And the deadends can even be intentionally placed. 

So I've always been cautious of "believing" in the flat earth stuff, like I don't want to open myself up to be misdirected too easily hehe. But it's always seemed more plausible to me than the people who laugh it off want to assume. 

And you're so right, that they believe things that are obviously wrong and ass backwards, and that actually cause harm in the world. But then mock flat earth (which worst case at least is just irrelevant). It's probably a projection, like flat earth perfectly conjures up feelings about the ride they're being taken on.

It's always funny to me when they talk about "science science science" but they haven't actually scientifically verified anything. What they mean by science is apparently "these people said so and let's listen to them".

For me it's basically like I have no way of knowing that flat earth is true, but I also have no way of knowing that sphere earth is true. Like, you have to just be agnostic if you don't know.. "everyone says so" isn't actually proof.

So while I wouldn't hang my hat on flat earth necessarily being the case, the people who laugh it off are just reminding us that they believe things hook line and sinker and couldn't imagine something ever being wrong if their schools and the media say it works like this. 

And so then there's the whole self-fulfilling prophecy, like if this is the way they are, then people will figure out how to lie to them and we're going to be surrounded by lies.

I liked your thought about how it could be curved, but that curved doesn't mean it has to necessarily be sphere. 

It could even be like we're on *a very large* sphere and we're one little cross-section of it. And the physics of how the earth goes around the sun or whatever is then actually happening (on a larger scale than what we're told), and so it isn't like they have to dream it all up and invent the physics, they just pass those explanations over to us. But we're actually one little section which is basically a plane with some slight curve.

..I don't know if the flat-earth community floats that theory at all but you can put it out there next time you're in the trenches if you want :p

I bet if your dropped on yoir head enough it will become flat, then I'm sure it would be easier to believe other things can be flat too, why not? May be jist tue brain damage these true belivers incurred throughout life but who am i to judge

Well it looks like someone has been doing their flat-earth research from https://theflatearthsociety.org. LOLz

Why do people always feel the need to go after the weakest straw-man organization or argument when looking to debunk a conspiracy theory. Wouldn't it be much more satisfying to find the strongest arguments and supporters and then attempt to debunk them? 

I got to say Stefan I'm a bit disappointed in your lack of homework, then again it's just an april-fools joke. I would actually love to see you talk to some or even one of the actual "flat-earth researchers" not just some kid who watched a few videos like your prior "debate" if you could even call it that.

I'm not a Flat-earther, but I'm also not a believer in theoretical science that relies on faith rather than experimentation as proof(cough cough climate change. If they did it here what's their limit?). This leaves me more in the realm of the skeptic concerning issues outside of our earthly grasp.

A good example of this would be the numbers you quote for the Andromeda galaxy  2.6 million light years away. So what 5.2 million years ago we sent a laser there and it bounced back? If that's the case I guess it doesn't require faith to believe it, but since that clearly didn't happen. By excepting these numbers as gospel we are now operating in the realm of faith, not testable science. 

I understand you would not likely be able to play the skeptic concerning such firmly held doctrines of faith, within the "Church of Science". You would lose far to many followers. But maybe some day off the camera, I hope that you do.

Either way, I have always enjoyed your shows. Thank you for making them.

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Relevance: Debunking Propagandists Who Push Flat Earth And Other Bullshit(Today is April Fools Day) and Stefan is making fun of these idiots.
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Well the earth is flat. So you do suffer from cognitive dis-resonance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDKc6X8TXNE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ7_9eIAlT4

What if there are no curve? :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg&t=36s

What is the galaxy is fake, just like gravity and the globe.

Oh ya you have me muted, even I am the only one telling you the truth... its sad to watch. earth is flat!

Thanx. That was a fun ride...

ahh april fools.   the perfect scapegoat to share forbidden truth.

FIAT.. also one letter away from Faith.

Mathematics, Occams Razor, and Eratosthenes...

https://youtu.be/Mw30CgaXiQw

When flat earthers say the earth is flat, just point to the mountains as proof they're wrong, because the rules say that the earth is only flat if less than 10' variation in altitude.