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Are we only here to feed the narcissists?
@dollarvigilante fan? Skip this post please.
This post requires an open, objective point of view before reading! You have been warned.

People like @dollarvigilante are a curse for this platform, but it requires to have an open, objective point of view. Don't get me wrong, the guy deserves all the credit for what he's accomplished in his lifespan to be clear.

## But here's what he's doing wrong and why it could become the downfall of Steemit.

He only promotes or talk about steemit as 'something' to make a quick cash grab. Not one post has highlighted what steem is all about, the technical advantages, or the future it could be embrassing. I even dare to quote a line from his posts that almost made me puke

> $15,000 later and it had caught my attention! Now, I
> realize my popularity in the liberty and crypto space is what made the
> post gain so much money in upvotes. **But it was then that I began
> really looking into Steem and Steemit.**

So it took him 15k to have a look at Steem. 
This means, if his post had failed, we would have never seen him again.

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i.imgur.com/zAQ78E3.jpg

Every post contains **How i made XXXX $ in just XX hours time! ** Every post has **but i earn it, **
**I'm not a one night success** and how **hard he worked** to make those bucks.

### Hold it right there and let me tell you something.

You **are** an overnight success on Steemit. Like said yourself, you didn't really cared about Steemit, you just heard of a thing where you could make some quick cash like you admited.

You **did not** work hard for the upvotes you got, all you did was post an article (Note: using a guide)

And yet, there you are, every single post rubbing into others users, community members, on how **you** got the big payout check in just **a couple of hours**, while some amongst them have been working for weeks to create for example a usefull tool, like steemstats.com, steemups.com, steemtools.com and many, many more.

Some of these guys only got 40-ish upvotes, yet everyone is using their tools they put their valuable time in.

### Let's call it a form of sick narcissism. Rubbing it in people's faces. The big shot with the big dollars.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1taaTrW9--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/g6a9odwpqgvpszavbvoi.jpg

### **Let me tell you for a fact, the vast majorities input for this community outnumbers you by factor 1000.**

Your only contribution so far, is making yourself look like a narcissist clown. Contribution that is. I'm not talking about the value you produce with your 'thousands' of followers. But here's what worries me about that one.

Are you promoting STEEM soley as a '*thing*' where you can made huge amounts in short times? Is that how you want to promote Steemit? Is that how you lure people over here? To be honest with you, I'm not looking forward to have a flood of 'thousands' of people only thinking they can make some quick bucks. 

This will decrease the true value of Steemit, getting rewarded for unique or contributing work.

# But we need people like you afterall

http://churchmediaresource.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Joy-To-Worship.jpeg


Agreed. We need people with many followers to promote Steem for what it is. 
**NOT**  to have catchy titles, **NOT** to make them believe it's just as easy as you make it sound.

## Stop promoting Steemit as the place to be for a quick cash grab and start promoting what it's really all about!

Now that would make your value also a contribution, an asset to this ecosystem. 

Show you care about this community, support it with your 'wealth' instead of bragging about it. Support people who invest their time and resources to make this a better place and never really got a $ for it. 

Create some super campaign with your 30k that you earned here the last 5 days. Do something.
### But stop posting on how you made so much money, because it's a slap in the face for many users - and it promotes Steemit wrongfully.



*This post is **not** written out of jealousy or envy. I'm doing very well on Steemit, and would like to explicitly mention that @dollarvigilante may even earn 1million as far as i'm concerned - he's doing a great job. I'm only expressing what i've picked up lately on several media and chatrooms.*
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@acidyo ·
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I don't think he is promoting Steemit in the way that you describe as "quick cash".
Steemit is growing and its growth is crucial to its success. He can promote Steemit however way he wants, he has a lot of experience in cryptocurrencies from before, who are we to question his ways of promoting a platform?

While I agree with you that I wouldn't want a mass of users just trying to make a quick buck, trust me that most won't. Most of those users are easily see-through and won't get too much attention.

That is not the case about him though. He is offering his fanbase a gateway to Steemit and help. Doesn't mean just cause one or two of his posts are about how much he made, that that's all he will be talking about forever. And about his users, I'm sure there are all kinds of people, just like everywhere in the world.
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@instructor2121 · 
Good stuff!

He is bringing in more if his fanbase..and they bring in theirs. It's not all AnCaps either. Good content from different people.
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@moonjelly · 
I question everything and I question anyone who flaunts money and writes stupid nonsense like that and call it talent, I don't care if you got a million dollars, that's the stuff imbeciles are made from.
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@moonjelly · 
Plus the final irony is that he's a scammer, mic drop.

https://steemit.com/scam/@moonjelly/the-dollar-vigilante-exposed-god-s-gonna-cut-you-down
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@ajvest ·
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I'd like to add to this conversation if I may...

I certainly understand @steve-walschot point in regards to the image being portrayed by @dollarvigilante.

I also understand the value that @dollarvigilante brings to the Steem table in terms of his huge following,  and the "ego" that accompanies his succes. 
Deep down I truly respect and appreciate him doing this for the Steem community!

That being said,  I would certainly recommend that if @dollarvigilante wants to show the Steem community, in good faith,  a continuing commitment to this platform and not being viewed as just a "get rich quick scheme";  then it may be wise to power up and convert the majority of those earnings into Steem Power.  
I honestly think that's what @stellabella and others were eluding at when asking him to "use your earnings to help spread the wealth to other "less fortunate" users who create good content."

Nobody has brought up the Powering Up aspect into this discussion  (unless I've glanced over it?) so I guesss I'll be the asshole to bring it up :)
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@tuck-fheman · (edited)
I believe in the interview he did with Dan & Ned (or perhaps it was in the comments section) he stated that he has Powered Up the majority of his earnings after cashing out a small portion to verify it worked as stated.

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@alex1994 · 
The Nazis are not the usual citizens of the country! the Nazis this state! We should be friendly to each other! We have the power!
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@anarcho-andrei · 
What I find fascinating, and something that is thus far unique to Serenity, is that people can beautiful of each other, yet still appreciate the big picture.  I've seen a handful of these kinds of posts, and I do agree that it makes users like me and you, OP, who put a lot of time and effort into creating original work frustrated.  At the same time, they're growing the platform.

Given time, and our persistence, we'll come out on top.  Just means we have to bite the bullet for now.
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@anca3drandom · 
I just spotted this post . The name is misspelled https://steemit.com/steemit/@vigilantebounty/dollarvigilante-usd10-000-steem-bounty
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@anduweb · (edited)
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I've said it before: Steemit has a *money mirage* that constitutes its main unique selling proposition. What happens though is that it goes away, this mirage.
Yes, @dollarvigilante is making a ton of money in post rewards now, but if his 8th, 10th post is still "I made 15k in 12h", I wonder who's going to upvote him then? Not many I reckon. Same with the playmate, or anyone else. Moreover, they're gonna get #rekt for milking the steemers.
More and more *VIP's* will come to steemit and yes, many extraordinary posts that day are going to bite the dust being shadowed by that celebrity. It's the small price we have to pay to get Steemit to grow to the magnitude of FB, Reddit etc.

I know you're not upset or jealous about this. It's a valid point after all. I'm not upset either and I have a 5th of your steem and over twice the involvement from a quantitative pov (posts&comments). You're doing awesome work with the payment gateway.

In the end, it's got to happen. The exposure of @dollarvigilante's interview with @dan and @ned, the exposure the playmate created, and many others, are worth a few first posts that are well paid. After that, if they don't add real value, they won't get *real value* out of Steemit.
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@ats-david · (edited)
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Agreed. This post does touch on an important subject for any product or service: public perception.

If the top trending posts are all about celebrities saying, "Oh, hi. I'm here to see if I can really make money," then they're rewarded by all of their followers blindly upvoting their post, they don't really have any added incentive to produce actual value. We get it - you have a big following. We get it - you can make a lot of money by posting about a sneeze from earlier in the day. The point here is to use that influence to add value to the platform, not to gloat about how easy it was to make a bunch of money.

I get the importance of a large following, but I also know that really good content is being drowned - and the "whales" aren't really helping with that. 

Here's something that can add value to the platform in many different ways. Let's get more stuff like this and less "Look how much I made yesterday!"

https://steemit.com/anarchism/@ats-david/enriching-lives-through-the-power-of-steemit
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@bendjmiller222 · 
I feel that steemit rewards people at the beginning for their effort and then slowly forces you to create better content and try new things.

 Early success (even just the .09 cents from @stellabelle) when I started was the only reason I stayed. It made me want to become a better writer and create content that would engage, entertain, and make people question their beliefs. #secret-writer was the first postthat really made me believe in myself after I saw the amount of positive comments and knew this was a community that welcomes raw and honest work. 

Much of Instagram and Facebook (while I use both) is sugar coated and made to look like everyone is having the time of their lives. Here, there is much less judgement and I have been able to share my feelings without fearing someone will troll or respond in hate. 

Early success is vital and everyone does have the ability to make great posts and make money at the beginning. 

Being creative is really the only way for continued success and I feel @dollarvigilante has the marketing skills to bring people up alongside him  since he is new and can help new people. As long as he will share his time with people from whales to minnows, I think he will be a great asset. 

We are all constantly changing here from our very first post (if you stay the same, you will move in reverse). While not every post will be a home run, you can build up your brand and make a pretty consistent amount if people feel you put out great content each time. 
A great example is @stellabelle always busts her ass and look at her results, they are consistently well liked.

 Sustainable success won't happen without sustained effort.
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@professorx · 
There definitely is a difference between your first post and latest post on Steem! I sure there is more diversity of writing and opinion because a site about itself will only survive so long.
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@toxichan · (edited)
@bendjmiller222 "Sustainable success won't happen without sustained effort."

Is that quote your's or someone else's? I love it.
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@biophil ·
$0.02
Very good points! People around here seem totally oblivious to the fact that mainstream exposure is going to bring a bunch of stuff into Steem that we haven't seen yet: advertising, political propaganda/campaigning, and like the OP pointed out, narcissists. Every time I bring this up, I get a response something to the effect of "I hope we can keep that stuff out!"

But the reality is that **we need all of it!** Advertising and politics will bring much-needed money and finally silence the "ponzi" criticisms, and as @anduweb points out, the narcissists will bring their worshippers along as they go through their massive and spectacular flame-outs.
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@doctorstrange · (edited)
$51.60
For crying out loud. Finally a post that bucks the trends, is openly critical and is getting some votes from whales. Color me surprised. 

Hopefully this isn't a token post and we'll see dissenting views getting noticed by whales and others on the trending page as appropriate. I don't even necessarily agree with everything that is said, it's just the damn principle of the matter!

Reward people for spilling their heart sometimes, even if it isn't 100% what you agree with, it's healthy for Steemit for everyone to know they are heard and appreciated.

It's great that @steve-walschot has brought up this topic and that the community members like @anduweb can discuss things with him and give his perspective. This is the sort of discussion we need more of. We all don't have to agree, just don't be afraid to give an upvote to your "opponent" for a "good game"!
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@awkwardawk · 
that's what the world should be all about
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@bendjmiller222 ·
$56.35
I also like that people are able to disagree with one another without shouting profanities or belittling one another. It's really a platform that encourages debate. Not only about steemit, but multiple controversial issues. 

While I tend to be more laid back and see things from both sides, I respect people that will speak their mind and be blunt and have a dialogue and that both @dollarvigilante and  @steve-walschot can have their voices heard. 

I think both users have the best interests of steemit in mind, but are approaching from differing viewpoints. If we were all unanimous in our beliefs, steemit would be an incredibly dull place.

I enjoy debating not just for the sake of arguing, but because someone respectfully bringing something to my attention has me actually seriously consider what they are saying instead of insulting me and making me immediately tune out what they wish to say and write them off.
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@bitxbitxbitcoin · 
I've been on Steemit for just a little bit now, but it sure seems like discussion is open. Maybe I'm just so late to the party that I'm noticing the end of the trend you're talking about, like when I show up to a party just as everyone is leaving... QQ
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@fuzzyvest · 
I agree with this post (though I am likely considered a baby beluga).  It is an important point to be made.  I do not disagree with @dollarvigilante deserving his first few k on here for posting that he is here, but making 3 meta versions of the same thing does take it a bit far. 

In his defense though...this platform is ADDICTING.  If you earn anything above the average on here you will be kind of foaming at the mouth hoping it happens again.  So when he earned 15k like that it was likely kind of heroine-like.  :P
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@smooth ·
$1.16
> Finally a post that bucks the trends, is openly critical and is getting some votes from whales. Color me surprised 

There have been numerous critical posts that have gotten votes from whales. It mostly depends on them being well-written and thoughtful.

The idea that critical posts don't get votes is dead wrong. A well-written and thoughtful critical post will get _far more_ votes than a positive post that is of poor quality.
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@endaksi1 ·
$0.03
And this comment my friend adds real value, Which is why you've been paid so handsomely for it.
So,
<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/17f06h"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/17f06h.jpg" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>
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@anduweb · 
hahaha. Thanks man. I've always tried to share my opinions and add value around steemit + promoting it. All earnings from that comment will go into Power Up anyways.
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@fanie-vanhoten · 
I feel like it's the same with @anduweb, my first view @dollarvigilante surprised he can reach 15k within 12 hours and he first made the post and strangely again he just gives sites that he love ya I knew it was hers but I personally terjekut with the results he has achieved. whether he has a team in steemit or what is more interesting from him? perhaps only God and he knows :)
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@framelalife ·
$0.07
Jeff Berwick has been providing value before he ever joined Steemit. Check out the dollar vigilante and anarchast youtube channels. Sure, he's new and brings a large following, which is overall good for Steemit, and he prolly will not continue to make $15k on each post. But as long as he keeps doing what he's always done before Steemit, he'll continue to earn.  His first initial posts are due to the shock of the overall earnings, and responses to the hoopla. However, as someone who has been discussing anarchy, capitalism and finance for years on his own podcasts and as a guest on many news channels and podcasts, I wouldn't cut him short. The only thing he has working against him on Steemit, is not everyone will identify with his topics.
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@spartanza · 
I wanted to share a video that Jeff posted on his YouTube channel where he interviews the founders of Steemit. https://youtu.be/a91zDQuibZA

Also, Jeff knows the value of Steemit and respects it. He also knows what attracts people. Google had shitty looking ads in the beginning, but you knew not to bitch because it worked. What the technology freedom revolution isnt teaching is how to make money, and it's been a downfall of the industry for a long time. People like Jeff know how to make money. He never came on here to tell you how to run Steemit. He came on Steemit because Steemit allows him to be rewarded by being himself. He never lied about what he typed. 
Anyway, Jeff is marketing Steemit. Let him. He knows how to market.
And if there is a section of Steemit capitalists, let the exist, Steemit allows for that.
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@freddy008 · 
It is true, the market adjusts itself. Profits are always decreasing logarithmically, in any industry, business or investment you make.

Every product/service has  a lifespan, and if not innovated, it loses it's value via value erosion.
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@lpfaust · 
I think one larger concern is that the more these posts are rewarded with STEEM and Steem Based Dollars, the more dolphins are created out of the very individuals who have no vested interest in promoting "valuable" content. In essence this is becoming a negative feedback loop in very short order if things do not change soon and that could become disastrous to the long term viability of STEEM.
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@dennygalindo · 
I like for a guy like dollar vigilante to have a lot of Steem power. I imagine he will upvote interesting comments and posts that fit his philosophy. He will become the anarchist curator to keep those post going. One way to to think about the dollar value of post isshoukd i give this guy more equity stake in voting and more incentive to support network.
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@moonjelly · 
I couldn't said it better myself and god knows I tried.
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@princewahaj · (edited)
Found this for criticism made by OP @steve-walschot is posted here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@steemist/in-response-of-critics-against-dollarvigilante-made-by-steve-walschot-and-the-truth-behind-all-the-story-both-sides-are-covered
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@prufarchy ·
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Just imagine, in the real world this money is changing hands with no one ever seeing or knowing. These are interviews and content that would've generated revenue that isn't publicized. We should be celebrating that we're finally behind the curtain. I'm with @anduweb, if they do not perform, they will not continue to receive upvotes and value out of Steemit. And if they do, my popcorn stands at the ready. This is a wild ride.
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@doctorstrange · 
>  if they do not perform, they will not continue to receive upvotes and value out of Steemit.

However, we've seen time and time again posts that get handsomely rewarded for saying the same thing again and again. While it's not likely that he will get the 15k payout on a single post again, since he has now been hooked by the whales and followers luring him in to try and promote the site, he will still continue to get a nice reward, because some here think that his content is what will make *them* money.

It would be nice to know which users actually bring in the most new users that will actually stay with Steemit for a decent amount of time.

Will it be those that promote getting rich quick to people that will almost certainly not get rich quick, or will it be users that find content creators that are going to form the backbone of what makes something like this work.

Personally, I see someone getting 15k for a post and think that is like a pile on when you're playing football. Lots of people upvoting and rewarding past the point of reason. Meanwhile the share of the daily pie isn't going to the other users that certainly deserve the rewards siphoned off by the "big winners" of the day.

And yes, no matter what happens this is going to be a wild ride!
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@instructor2121 · 
Exactly! Great post
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@smooth · (edited)
$59.07
> many extraordinary posts that day are going to bite the dust being shadowed by that celebrity

Somewhat, but that is oversimplified and contributes to a zero-sum mentality. Yes it is true that the pool is literally zero-sum as long as the STEEM price doesn't change, but the effect is pretty modest. Currently the reward pool is about $100 000 per day.  On the day he made $15K, approximately $85K went other posts. If you didn't earn, it is because your post didn't gain an audience and get votes. It is not because TDV took all the money.

In fact there is concrete proof of this. If I recall correctly, the very same day that TDV got $15K, the Playmate got $12K (sorry if not exact number). His success did not prevent her from also doing well nor did her success stop him from doing the same. And despite both of them getting historic payouts on the very same day, _73% of the reward pool was still available_ for other posts.

If your posts aren't getting rewarded, focus on marketing and promoting to develop an audience and improving the quality of the posts to increase conversions (how many people who see the posts vote for them). Pointing at someone else who is (in some vague sense) responsible for you not geting 15% of the reward pool rather than focusing on why you aren't getting a piece of the other 85% and what you can do to change that is doing yourself a disservice.
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@anduweb · (edited)
That is correct @smooth, TDV's post didn't take all the money. The point  was that if you hit your hard worked post in a day where a couple celebrities do theirs (or some new app comes on/gets updated), there are way less chances to get yours noticed. I'm not complaining. Used to when I was starting up on Steemit but not anymore. Perseverance is my motto now. Keep at it and you'll get noticed. Contribute (on steemit with posts, comments, curation, on steemit.chat helping people), grow an audience, and then you'll get noticed easier once you build your rep.

In this post @steve-walschot was bringing to discussion *celebrities* that do repetitive, similar posts, grabbing the attention on Steemit over the same idea over and over. I agree that we need to build our audience, but we can be easily shadowed by others who have a natural big audience. Yup, 73% was left. For 49.999 Steemians :)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining that I'm not getting rewards, that is not why I, and many other are on Steemit for as their main goal.

*PS. Maybe I'm mistaking but the total amount of steem awarded in a day is 28,800 STEEM (?) which  is about $ 56k at the current price. Not that it makes a big difference in what you said.*
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@pandaking · (edited)
If you're ok with 2 posts receiving 27% of the daily award, an intro post and a playmate post, you're an idiot.
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@texkitten · 
*"embracing" not embrassing
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@arcaneinfo · 
No matter if it's crypt o or fiat everyone wants or needs goods or services for their life and I can understand the point in this post, I mean the dollarvigilante is amazing who really want to debate that? The way my energy been on this platform at this point obviously its not about making money for me. I can't say everyone is here to help or teach, but I know he is and I know I am in my weird post ways:) Anyway Whales show us little people some love every now and then even if it's not authentic:)
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@artsteemit · 
Lovely and sincere post. Thx!
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@bacchist ·
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I'd encourage everyone to check them out and show them some love, because they are exactly what we need around here.

https://steemit.com/journalism/@tftproject/the-free-thought-project-news-and-journalism-joins-steemit
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@bendjmiller222 · 
I love your view on @dollarvigilante. I listened to his podcast with @ned and @dan and yes it seemed as if he stumbled upon $15,000. 

Yes he put in the work, and yes he is trying to add value to the community, but most people are only seeing blah blah blah I made $15,000 in twelve hours.

The average person joining may make $.25 with a post that took hours to write. He is promoting false hope right now even if not necessarily on purpose. Instead of talking about the money, he should focus on other aspects of steemit.

I'll be honest, I do believe he is an asset, but will also cause new users to become more frustrated without similar success. He put in a lot of hard work before and is now reaping those rewards. 

I actually just finished a piece on whether [Money Is The Root Of All Evil](https://steemit.com/money/@bendjmiller222/is-money-the-root-of-all-evil) I think if @dollarvigilante takes his new found fame in a different direction and chooses to give a lot of what he made to others (essentially investing in people) He will add far more value than he currently does.

Right now, while I understand his points, he is mostly causing jealousy. I fall in the middle though and do feel all different sorts of people should be welcome from those that keep wealth for their own gains and those that give most away. I fall into the latter position and would be happy to chat with @dollarvigilante and have had a brief comment exchange together.

He is very new, and hopefully the community will encourage him and bring him along a path towards helping others share wealth (which I believe is what steemit is really all about) There is plenty of money to spread.
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@codymac40 · 
Hello.  I am new as well, and I believe that no matter what, value is added.  He bagged $15,000.  Wouldn't that be great if we all could do that? Although he gives a bit of a mixed message, he is bringing many into the fold. Yes, some will stay but most will not.  I know that this year I might not even reach the $1000 mark, because my wife and I are trying for a motor home to start living off the land, but I will get something.
I am trying to post, funny, happy, goofy stuff, just to catch eyeballs, and maybe upvotes so we can get that motor home.
Thank you for your post, I liked it and I have followed you as well.
:D
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@doctorstrange · 
Absolutely. I think @dollarvigilante adds a LOT to the platform while unintentionally promoting what is wrong with the platform. People need to let him and others that they can use their influence in a more productive way.

It's healthy criticism, not whining.
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@innuendo · 
> ...but most people are only seeing blah blah blah I made $15,000 in twelve hours.

> He is promoting false hope right now.

It's amazing how patronizing you are. So *you* do realize these expectations are baseless, yet you think other people are more stupid than you and they will become victims of "false hope". 

This kind of attitude manifests a hidden feeling of superiority. It's well concealed behind the noble feeling of trying to help. It's your ego playing tricks on you. If you can figure out these hopes are false, so can other people, if they choose to. 

> He put in a lot of hard work before and is now reaping those rewards.

And this is exactly what @dollarvigilante wrote about in one of his posts. I cannot imagine him being more clear about it.
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@bendjmiller222 ·
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I actually was someone who would have immediately been drawn by the lure of money and solely focused on that were it not for people like @rok-sivante and @stellabelle taking me under their wings. I'm not trying to be superior to anyone,  but that being said I do feel that I view money differently than most. [Is Money The Root Of All Evil](https://steemit.com/money/@bendjmiller222/is-money-the-root-of-all-evil) I hope can back me up on that. I have the same problem and value money too much sometimes. 

At the same time, Ive seen far more this is a scam/circle jerk posts than I wish. Part of that is due to the sheer amount of content. Even great writers will get frustrated after a few attempts making little money and may become negative. 

[Post by Rok](https://steemit.com/steemit/@rok-sivante/how-steemit-is-rewiring-my-brain-to-become-a-better-person-a-journey-from-being-a-self-centered-scrooge-to-community-loving) this is one of my favorite articles of rocks that changed my perspective on money.

I like what @dollarvigilante is doing by promoting steemit and of course there will be some great writers that come to steemit because of him. But also some that will see the picture saying $15k was made, not read the rest, sign up and start posting. It's not right or wrong, but the success of new people is critical to the long term growth.

I don't feel superior to anyone and have found satisfaction in being taught what true joy is by some of the poorest people I know who decided to share what little they had with me in the Dominican, and have spent time crying with those who lost loved ones in Katrina.

I am flawed though and sometimes I'm sure my ego gets the best of me and I may feel superior, but that is not my intention.

I'm glad that you pointed that out, and I probably shouldn't have phrased it as blah blah blah $15k. I try really hard to help all people that need it regardless of whether it makes me a dime. Sometimes I get rewarded in my wallet, sometimes I add value keeping a user here that may be frustrated.

I value your opinion so hopefully this explains my ideas a little more thoroughly as I would prefer to be known as a servant who helps others. It's what brings me the most joy. 

I hope you believe what I say, but that is completely up to you to decide. (I personally love your work and appreciate positive or negative comments and will take yours to heart and try to think through my comments more in subsequent posts) :) thanks @innuendo
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@bitcoinmeister · 
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@chaospoet · (edited)
Do you know if my post was voted for a million three
Not a dime would it be as a cost to thee
Yet with my new found power now available to use
You too could I uplift if I so choose

Not a person is hurt on this platform when another wins
Think about what this really is with a very close lense
The only problem on this platform is envy has a new home
For in truth someone doing well hurts no one, leave them alone
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@charlie777pt · 
Very good point of non-materialistic view
To Have or to Be? - that's the question
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@cheftony · 
> But stop posting on how you made so much money

This is the best way to deteriorate Steem. 
I really don't understand this kind of behavior...
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@chitty ·
$0.67
Yeap, just the other day I was thinking that it would be bad for steemit if only celebrities were getting good rewards, then again its up to us (the users) to vote for whoever we want, if we all vote for celebrities then that is what we are gonna get...
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@chris-bell · 
From what I can see, the majority of the posts that do well are just talking about steemit which isn't really  necessary because we're all on here and have eyes. We can read. Unfortunately once these posts start building momentum, everyone upvotes to try to get a curation reward which just perpetuates the issue.
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@clevecross · 
I can agree with all your points. I wonder though how YOU would do it? All the ads I see say the same thing. "Blog. Earn." So it's not entirely fair  to attack him for advertising steemit the way steemit has been promoting steemit
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@clonewarz · (edited)
steemit is a poor social media platform but a good alt-coin currency..
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@coloured-content · 
I agree 100% 
Its time e all #EXITEGO
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@condra ·
$0.61
I said it before and I'm gonna keep saying it until people get the message. Shit content is not being voted for because people like shit content. Shit content is being voted for because the INCENTIVE for voting is BROKEN. People are "sport voting", not voting out of sincerity. It's polarising. It causes a figure-of-8 feedback loop. Dollarvigilante could literally post a photo of his shit, and it would be upvoted to oblivion. [The solution is also very simple. Voting for someone with a track record should reap less rewards than voting for someone unproven.](https://steemit.com/steemit/@condra/high-reward-for-low-hanging-fruit-steemits-curation-problem-needs-to-be-fixed)
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@fat-like-buddha · 
I much prefer Steemit be a platform of a bunch of new fucking nobody's than a handful of people who have got rich off of false illusions (in the sense that certain things are made to appear easily obtainable if only do you XYZ like I did) and the gullible. Otherwise, this is going to turn into one big fucking sheep fest around here in my opinion.
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@mexbit ·
$0.15
Jeff Berwicks post had a really great quality... I enjoyed reading it... And I am one of the 0.18 cents earners... I think he deserves it for the article and double the amount for his immense help in opening the mind of a lot of people who think Steem is a scam.
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@jsteck · (edited)
$0.02
It's not letting me vote for this twice. I think I should follow @condra.
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@tuck-fheman · 
<blockquote>Dollarvigilante could literally post a photo of his shit, and it would be upvoted to oblivion</blockquote>

I get what you're saying, but you can't honestly believe the line above. Surely you have more faith in the Steemit userbase? 

Personally I'm certain that if Jeff, Stellabelle, Dan, Ned or anyone else posted a literal shitpost it would not be met with hundreds of upvotes. It may be upvoted by a few minnow Steemophants ... or scatophile's though. ;)

And again, I get the point you're making, but I disagree vehemently.
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@condra · 
Hey tuck. Thanks for your comment. I phrased that sentence with a fairly firm tongue in my cheek, a bit of poetic license. My point is simply that people are voting for what they think will do well, rather than what they sincerely appreciate. I think the overall system is working quite well, but could do with some tweaking to discourage this sort of "sport voting."
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@crazycow · 
Well, I am not here to judge anyone but to leave my 5cent comment. I am one of the people on Steemit whose content is overlooked on a daily basis and not acknowledged. I wish people would read my post https://steemit.com/life/@crazycow/how-i-became-a-submissive-part-1 and leave their comments or vote.  

I love Steemit, not for the money but that I can post original content. I love writing and call me crazy but a catchy heading does the trick to attract readers and then votes or followers. So I guess @dollarvigilante is doing something right
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@mammasitta · (edited)
I hear you but what is he is doing  right ? convincing some people who believe he is great ? I will follow you and read your posts from now on .
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@cryptobarry · 
The day we stop talking about Steemit on Steemit is the day we got a large userbase and diverse content. It will come. People are excited right now and shouting it from the rooftops.
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@deejayehn · 
Just wait until the big "celebs" find out about this... :coffee:
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@johnster · (edited)
$0.54
Indeed. +1. He had the developers on his show and they tried to bend the interview. 
The curators,  WE STEEMERS, did a bad job... was the content really that great?
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@defiant · (edited)
I doubt anyone will read this way down here at the bottom.  LOL

This is all new, and Jeff at TDV is not going to make a life out of talking about what he's making here.  He's just excited about having stumbled onto this and I'm sure quite amazed at the results.  And being this new, it makes sense that a large focus of the posts are going to be about Steemit, and making money.  And it will pass.  How many videos do you see these days on YouTube talking about YouTube?  It just doesn't matter.  As far as Jeff's posts being a slap in the face, I don't buy that.  

If someone has experienced a slap in the face, its not from Jeff.   I've made a whopping $1 (plus or minus a few cents).  But for some reason, I don't feel like I've got a slap in the face from Jeff.  And since Jeff and his posts are identical for me as they are for those you speak of as having been "slapped", the slapping must be self-inflicted.

Jeff posted something he felt like he wanted or needed to post.  And the fact that he got so well paid shows he had a large number of people who appreciated what he had to say.  So he provided something to people who obviously wanted what he offered.  Why would any of us wish to complain about this?  This is really between him and those who have voted in favor of what he had to say.  The value of his coming over to Steemit is far beyond any contrived negatives you can come up with.   And where you think the actions of Jeff could be the downfall of Steemit, I should hope this platform is a little more robust than that, and the people, a little more dynamic.   A handful of posts from one guy who hasn't had his account for even a week  is going to destroy Steemit?  

I think this is silly.  But even so, at this time you have 198 votes that have paid you almost $1000.  That's freakin' awesome!  And I'm impressed.  You sure kicked my $1 into the dirt.  LOL  And while I don't agree with the sentiment here, you have many that see value in what you're offering.  And you should continue to offer anything you wish for whatever reason you wish.  And I would never consider telling you to do otherwise.  Among other things, Steemit is about anyone sharing anything in any manner they see fit.  And I see no reason to try to create for someone else any sort of boundaries.  Anything goes.  And that's how it should be.
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@deviedev · (edited)
Obviously everyone is free to write about what they want. But It's unfortunate to see so much attention given to this debate when there is so much really, really cool well researched material out there waiting to be digested. 

Stop arguing and go find it.
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@dikanevn · 
http://papillon1964.p.a.pic.centerblog.net/igorrp06.png
for good mood =)
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@djh · 
A very good point, I came here to get away from the gloom and doom of youtube "Fear sells" and the adds and BS news on facebook, if I make enough steem to pay for the fuel it costs me to take the pictures I post of course I shall be delighted:-) PS I did use sex in my lattest post in an attempt to be discovered LOL
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@steve-walschot ·
$0.06
What did i just read.. lol
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@bendjmiller222 · 
He must be using the new Canon D3100 Diesel. Lithium Ion? Who has time to charge that when you can fill up anywhere. I get about 400 PPG (Pictures Per Gallon).  Probably more next year when Solar/Diesel hybrid arrives.
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@dogguy · 
>Don't get me wrong, the guy deserves all the credit for what he's accomplished in his lifespan to be clear.

If I remembered his post correctly, he basically went bust (bankrupt) twice, seemed to do a lot of drugs and puts a lot of emphasize on external looks for success (I could easily provide 100 examples of 'ugly' successful people)... so point being - he doesn't seem like someone you need to give a lot of credit to.
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@dollarvigilante ·
$71.41
You have got me all wrong.  If you think I am bragging about $30k, you don't know me.  What I am, is a marketing expert.  Headlines like what I put up got TONS of interest in Steemit.  And, I mean tons.  My FB feed is all Steemit now... 5 days ago there was none.  People like to hear the 'get rich quick' story, so I bring them in with that... and then hit them with all the other reasons you should be on here... including in my post today where I said you should be on Steemit even if there was no $ involved.  I have quickly become the biggest promoter of Steemit... I was on national radio in the US for nearly two hours talking about what an amazing platform this is.  Do you really think I have been a net negative for Steemit?  If so, you clearly don't understand marketing.  Or maybe you do understand marketing as you've made some pretty good money by just bashing me...
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@anduweb · (edited)
$47.92
Man, did I wake up to something this morning. Didn't think the comments discussion would pick it up like this and it's awesome. Love it when they do!!

@dollarvigilante: i completely understand where you're coming from. Besides /sex/, money is the best bait nowadays. You discovered Steemit and now you do the next natural move every steemian does: **doing your thing to tell others about it**. Nothing wrong with that. Everyone who's jealous on your earnings should do everything you did pre-Steemit before complaining that they didn't get 15k on their introduseyourself post.
Also, Steve wasn't bashing you. He really wasn't. He just put out an opinion that might be going through the minds of many people around here. Nothing wrong with that. Tackling this stuff, being open, transparent and collaborative helps us grow as a community.
Jeff, I thing you're also going through the *first week process* of every newcomer to Steemit:
You're over-hyped about the possibilities on Steemit and trying to use this momentum to get more people on and get more attention. That's normal. I remember my first week. Had 10h of sleep altogether haha.
 I do hope you'll learn from others' experience and jump over the *Quitting* part. All your work and experience  before you found out about Steemit is great and it's great you're here. Keep contributing, promoting Steemit, bringing even more people and we'll all grow together.
I remember something Dan said in one of the first interviews about Steemit:
> One of the goals of Steemit is to be a place where valuable content can bring a constant revenue for authors and contributors.

So everyone will 'port' their blogs, shows, art, music etc. to Steemit and keep them here only. That is the ultimate goal I think. Independence. And we're gradually growing towards it.
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@clevecross · 
I did read your post today...... Kind of why I responded about how you are marketing the same way steemit has been marketing
https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://s19.postimg.org/k4ki22qfn/billboardcup.jpg
Regardless of my view on the marketing, it is hypocritical you get called out for doing the same thing everyone else has.
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@cogliostro · 
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/marketing_interview.png
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@doctorstrange · 
> Or maybe you do understand marketing as you've made some pretty good money by just bashing me...

You call it bashing, and I call it venting frustration and you are the poster boy and lightning rod for that frustration. You are someone we can both love, and love to hate. I don't think you are a net negative at all, and I'm sure many others don't feel that way either. You are the hot topic of discussion so naturally you're going to get some heat for what they think you are doing that isn't positive for Steemit.

You're doing a fine job overall, in my opinion, and due to your influence I think many of us want you to be able to do it even better. So you get some bashing/venting sent your way * shrug * Comes with the territory doesn't it? 

Anyway, I'm glad you're aboard and look forward to more of your posts. Hopefully with less - not demanding none - of the braggadocio that makes the site look like a 'get rich quick' scam. 

Thanks for listening
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@dollarvigilante ·
$0.44
What have you done for Steemit?  I upvoted this post btw. :P
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@acidyo ·
$1.16
If you look through his profile you can see that he is developing for Steemit as well! Steempay.io is what he is working on. :)
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@carlidos · 
Now don't be mean now. He's using your name By make some money too. None the less your bringing many new talent. Your success travels with you.  So again big fan keep it up.
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@jsteck · (edited)
...marketing expert...biggest promoter...national radio...not narcissist...

(This is sarcasm)
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@karnal ·
$0.03
Both sides with interesting arguments here.

I guess time will tell, keep posting the good content @dollarvigilante :-)
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@kyriacos · 
The point is that you are intentionally dishonest @dollarvigilante . How can you possibly write posts about "How to make money in Steemit" when you are making yours because of your facebook popularity?

it doesn't matter where you were and what you do. yeah we do understnad marketing and all that but you also don't understand that you have become what you are against. People, humanity, got scammed into the idea of the "state" from people like you. You ae doing the same thing now to make money.

You are a net negative to humanity itself.
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@blakemiles84 · 
> You are a net negative to humanity itself.

Whoa.. consider this my yellow flag and whistle blown.
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@oecp85 · 
Hi, in my opinion I think @dollarvigilante is right, I would define it as Affiliate marketing and @dollarvigilante is in this case acting as an Affiliate attracting a lot of customers to this platform, which for me is very good.
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@steve-walschot ·
$148.69
There you go again, full of yourself and being narcissistic. 

You're doing a **good job** on getting people in - like said in my article - so no bashing involved here. Just advice why many people agree that you need to change the attitude since you act as a rolemodel for many new users that will be dissapointed when they don't get payed the big dollars like you did.

We share many life experiences, i'm a self made man myself. But, i stay humble. Always welcome to have a little chat by the way :-)
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@aviator · 
"Can we all just get along" - This meme is certainly returning with a vengeance at this time  ô¿ô
Let's try and keep the "wealth"  aspect on the back burner for a while. Facebook went public at ~$30.00 and dropped to ~ $17.00 in the months that followed. Everyone bashed FB at the lows and proclaimed it to be doomed. Meanwhile FB climbed back up past the IPO price, the Winklevoss twins settled with FB / Zuckerberg .... and did what??  Bought the schitt out of bitcoin!!!  Ain't Karma grand? Oh, yeah, FB is close to an all time high right now......

Question?  If Donald Trump came here to steemit and did a somewhat epic intro and Tweeted it to the world identifying steemit, how much $USD would that post make? How many people of ALL ilks would join this community?  Personally I think Jeff Berwick is a pretty awesome gutsy guy. But he would be a smallfry if Jay leno / Jimmy Fallon / Bernie Sanders / Ron Paul / Steven Hawking showed up here ~~

Soooo have we got the "big bucks to the newcomers" syndrome out of our system? 'Cause I have a feeling some mega rich posters are going to make some serious coin in the near future ~~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0
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@knozaki2015 · 
Well but really.  

What you are saying is in my eyes a bit ...

let me try to find an analogy.

DollarV playes Lotto and wins 7.000.000 USD 
Now DV makes a big social media campagin, that he won the lottery and everybody should play Lotto.
Ok, so everybody starts playing, NOBODY wins. 
So in this Lotto Analogy, the people still keep playing because they know, the chance to win are not so high. 

If people come to Steemit and think that everybody can make a killing just joining and posting that he just had a smoke and a bagel and spilled coffee on his jeans, well than i have to say, these people are just stupid, because nothing in life is free, and these kind of people will never make it on any platform anyway.

So i say, get everybody in, the ones not making it, will be washed out again. but that's fine !
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@rittr ·
$48.24
@dollarvigilante last Post about getting rich in Steemit had a clickbait Title but **tons** of very useful Information in it. And it was very clear about to not get dissapoited when you dont make much Money with your first Posts.
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@summon · (edited)
$59.70
i love this discussion .. :) I've upvoted your posts before @dollarvigilante as well i've voted your posts @steve-walschot. IMO you both are bringing much value into our system anyone of you in his own unique way.

- One brings value in terms of PR and Marketing
- Another brings value into with developing skills 
- and a 3rd person is able to write just amazing stories

At the end of this day .. we are all here to achieving the same, don't we? Do make a good living from what we are liking to do most and to work on issues this world is facing together, like censorship, surveillance, just to name a few. 

If we are able to give us our hands and moving forward as an alliance to make STEEM
what it is to supposed to be ...STEEM will be able get really successful! 

---
> What have you done for Steemit? I upvoted this post btw. :P

just take a look at steves blog when u get time to - he is working on a payment solution to integrate SBD payments easily at your site, wordpress blog and so on. IMO really a project u should watching tough.
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@instructor2121 ·
$0.03
Well said.  These are healthy discussions for the benefit of the system.
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@knozaki2015 ·
$53.64
I think these kinds of discussion shape the platform and the users. its a win-win.
Many users realize through the discussions, that we are at the tipping point of building the future of Social Media here !
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@mammasitta · (edited)
OH , How  do I enjoy such healthy discussions helping to shape this community. My comment follows . my down-vote as well and why
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@smooth ·
$0.03
Well said
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@dooglehiltz · 
I think @dollarvigilante is excited because of the money he made in such a short time.  Okay so he probably milked it a bit,  but the Steemit market can handle that as well.  In fact that is in part just what this article is doing.  But even with out this article, people would become tired of hearing the same thing and those, "I made $xxxx dollars on Steemit" posts would deminish.  Then Berwick would be back to having to post good content.  He does have good content on his site which I am sure we will be seeing here soon.  Thanks for making a good point however....
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@drinkzya · 
Great post. The reason you will not be getting my vote is because it seems like you are starting whine a lot. Your last post was total regarding devs in this community being undervalued was completely inaccurate imo.
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@steemitqa · 
Steven has always been a straight shooter.  I trust his advice on this matter.
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@steve-walschot ·
$0.57
No hard feelings. I've always been the one to give a voice to those who can't be heard, like my previous post - and this one. I only extend what's going around these days 'behind the scenes'.
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@doctorstrange ·
$0.46
This is my core value as well. People call us whiners for advocating for the less popular viewpoint. It's a really common tactic. Keep up the good fight, @steve-walschot. You do have people on your side so don't give up.
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@drinkzya · 
Well, I appreciate your mature response, I will be following you to see what else you might have to say in the future.
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@razvanelulmarin ·
$0.02
and you got my follow upvote and comment too. "give voice to those who can't be heard" is maybe too dramatic for my taste, but I do try to find posters who are not getting recognized and help out. We're all fighting the same battle.
I only hope your intentions are pure...as are mine :)
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@exitmass · 
I agreed with this post up until @dollarvigilante response. I totally see the narcissistic side of this but the truth is - Jeff is using one of the best marketing techniques to get people in. **get rich quick**
But who knows, maybe he is only getting more people in, especially his fans, to get more upvotes. I don't really blame him though as the majority would be his fans.. And an audience he's already worked to get. Not saying I would do the same but then again I don't have an audience.

Honestly it took me hearing about steemit 3 times before finally signing up 3 or 4 weeks ago. And I probably finally did look into after hearing how you can make money.  

I applaud you for talking about it in a new light though @steve-walschot
**steemit loves transparency and that's what I love most about it**
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@fabz89 · 
I just wanted to make some money, i don't care what other people do, but seems like this isn't possible for retail like everything else. You have to already have money to make money
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@favorit · 
How to clear history? Can not Submit a Story
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@flandude · 
http://i.imgsafe.org/aea5213695.jpg
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@foxkoit · 
STEEMIT FOLLOW ... JUST A SMALL STEP
https://steemit.com/follow/@foxkoit/steemit-follow-just-a-small-step
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@freddy008 · 
Money is not essentially bad, only if it's abused and people become too attached to it. You forget how the 3rld world poor country citizens can earn money here and make their life better. It's not just for get-rich-quick people but also for people from poorer backgrounds building a career here: artists, content producers, and such.
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@gikitiki · 
That would be a good challenge.  Have any steemians that want to try,  write up a couple paragraphs that explain in lay terms what steemit is.  @dollarvigilante hasn't been here very long,  it may help him understand all the benefits that steemit has. 

We all may learn something from it.
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@hendra-khaidir · 
Nice post @steve-walschot
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@heretickitten · 
I totally agree. I have a friend who wrote a similar article. https://steemit.com/steemit/@alexbeyman/that-s-a-man-baby-catfishing-for-steem-may-ruin-this-platform-for-everybody-let-s-fight-it

The idea of using Steemit to make a quick buck is pretty lame. I'm viewing this as a fun forum to talk about ideas, with money as just a **SIDE** feature.

The money is just a little incentive to make sure my posts are well typed and well made. I'm also thinking long term here. I want to make friends here, and hope they stick around. I've already asked people to follow me, not because I want some "yes-man" to vote for me, but because I think s/he had good ideas that I wanted to hear more about.

There are lots of interesting people on Steemit, and I want to become their friend or ally and hear their ideas. This is what the internet is for. A place to share ideas. The money aspect is just a secondary feature.
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@djm34 · 
why do you want to become their "ally" ? If money is just a 'SIDE' feature. I sense a little hypocrisy in there ;)
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@hilarski · 
Jeff will bring a myriad of quality content producers to the platform. Seeing people hate on others makes me cringe. Maybe you did it purely to make a few Steem. I don´t know and really don´t care because I know guys like Jeff will help strengthen this platform. 

Have you seen what he has accomplished on Twitter and Facebook? I have because I am his social media manager. The guy is a beast and we should all embolden him to go out and spread the news of Steemit.  As a marketer I know this platform needs some of us as well.

http://i1.wp.com/www.randyhilarski.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Crypto-Currencies-Bitcoin-Decentralization-Marketing-Programming-Randy-Hilarski.jpg?w=750
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@steve-walschot · 
That's exactly what my post says.
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@innuendo · (edited)
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> Are you promoting STEEM soley as a 'thing' where you can make huge amounts in short times?

I think you completely misunderstood @dollarvigilante 's message. He said just the opposite. 

All he said is this:
- Steem is great as it allows you to leverage your existing reputation.
- On Steem you cannot expect to make big money quickly, unless you already have a reputation (and reputation is earned through hard work).

So no, he's not promoting Steem *soley as a 'thing' where you can make huge amounts in short times*. He never said anything like that. This is just how *you* interpret his message. 

Your interpretation of @dollarvigilante 's message is flawed, not the message itself.
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@desibeatnik · 
I don't begrudge anyone's success on here but I have to say that history shows us that there are plenty of people who work hard and don't end up successful as well as many successful people who didn't work hard. They do correlate sometimes though.
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@instructor2121 ·
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Hey man great post! Ok, now let's take this for what is it worth.

TDV is powering up his rewards, a big part of it, because he believes in the huge potential of the platform. So, it's not a money grab. 

TDV is educating himself on the platform so he can promote steemit through his media interactions. Right now, the story is his success in such a short time on the platform. That's the reality of it. Let's just roll with it and see how it unfolds.

So,lets support TDV as he sets out on this journey.
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@intangibl3 · 
I agree with you. I don't think that Steem should be promoted as a get rich quick site. I think it should be promoted as a viable alternate income for those willing to invest in a platform that could revolutionize the way people do social media! But even more than that it should be promoted that this platform doesn't censor the people because they have differing political, social or really any other beliefs. That is what is most important because it promotes free thought and discourse. It's awesome. :)
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@jacobcards · 
Your a jealous nonbeliever. How can you make money off putting someone who is trying to spread truth in every good way possible. You are the villain not jeff berwick.
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@jsteck · (edited)
Nonbeliever?
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@jacobsen · 
<h2>Who is to decide right or wrong here?</h2>
Im new to Steemit and Steemit is new to me! I personally support your points of the single pointed message TDV gives but on the other side - isnt this a community driven and evolving place?
Rules of right or wrong are build in to the vote/flag tag system and who gets most attention is more visible - right? And no one is Steeming (is this what we do?) to be unnoticed - I assume.
So if a Steemer (is it called that?) are posting for visibility or cash - its not a big difference in my opinion. And Steemit gives you both opportunities - it all up to us all! And we DO have the flag to turn of attention to those posts we dont like 
So Steem on and lets se what happends!
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@jamiewynacht · (edited)
I'm still reading this, but I  had to come here and address your point. Like I said, I'm still reading and it looks like I'm less than halfway through. Maybe you save face somehow, by the end, but as for now, I'm compelled to ask why you don't think that this will only help to boost steemit? Is steemit truly incapable of handling popularity? Or are you just a bit jealous? I'll be back....
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@jamiewynacht · 
Haters
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@janicko · 
I completely agree but I would argue this is the fault of all those who upvoted the first post of @dollarvigilante rather than his own. The first post is basically an advertisement on himself which brings no new information or analysis and must have taken 15 minutes to write. By upvoting articles like this one, this community is discouraging quality content (which is overlooked) to be created.
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@jfeenstra · 
hopefully the "I made $8456 in 86 seconds by posting my left testicle on steemit" posts will disappear relatively quickly once the user base increases, because people will start demanding actual content over mindless crap

but then again, people still view clickbait consistently, so who knows
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@jlufer · 
Muy buen articulo
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@johnnyyash · 
I actually agree with you completely.  I think it is ridiculous we have someone bragging about how much money they made when I've been on here like 24/7 the last couple of weeks.  My posts go no where.  I'm not saying I deserve up-votes but he definitely doesn't.
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@karchersmith · 
I think he did say in another post that people who complain about not making money on Steemit are missing the true value of it. Positive content will be rewarded. And why not promote the value of making money from usingn Steemit ? This is a revolutionary technology that can literally change people's lives. It would be cool if he gave some of the $15k back instead of just talking about it.
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@katyakov · 
You just got what I had to say. Thank you for the post!

Following you from now on
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@kingofchaos · 
Couldn't agree more. This kind of contributions attract all the wrong people. 
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@knozaki2015 ·
$57.75
Well written post, but i disagree. i have some friends who joined after seeing that i made 5K with one post. 

Even he is writing about the cash, the fastest way to get people in, is to play the greed card.

He will bring 10x more users to the platform, than saying "yeah its so great, technically its better than XYZ" nobody cares. 

So for Steemit, its better at this moment, that everybody has $$ in his eyes, than and there is a gold rush, as there is a thing called conversion rate. 

Lets say he brings in 50.000 Users. maybe 3000 will stay.
that's still better than bringing in 10000 users and only 1000 will stay.

And you cant blaim him for branding himself for the person he is. that's how he got successful, and he shouldn't change himself.
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@dollarvigilante · 
Yep yep. ;)
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@knozaki2015 · (edited)
;) 
just to make everybody feel better.. i am in cryto since 2012 and i never heard of the dollarvigilante before...
dunno, i was maybe to busy setting up a miner farm ;) 

anyway. both of you are good in getting the masses to move. 

you OP with your populist post and DV with him, just being him ;)

i think, we need 10 more DVs, so the masses come into the platform. i explain to everybody, listen, i spend 7 days trying, than i got my first 5K post. after that  i struggled for a while, but i had small hits with 200$ or 120$ etc. (today https://steemit.com/food/@knozaki2015/britafilters-hacked-read-the-whole-hacking-story-steemit-exclusive this one is up to 1000$)

So my take is, the people come in greedy, and they stay because of the awesome concept of Steemit. 
If they leave, its fine because the ones leaving, would not have stayed in the first-place, even if we told them to come to Steemit because of its great content or technology or whatever. 

So stop your little chicken fight you too, you are both right ;)
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@kreativ · 
Yay for freedom of speech.  I am so pleased you wrote this...I can see both points of view, but good on you for having the courage of your convictions and stating how you feel.   We need more of this :-)
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@kyriacos · 
@dollarvigilante is gringe worthy to begin with. As I can see from his page he is playing between conspiracy theory and anti-state sensationalism, often filled with misinformation. Don't get me wrong. I adhere to anarchocapitalist ideals myself but this is just embarrasing. I can't believe so many people follow him. I guess the bleach-out style helps?

And to top it off; He explains how you can make thousands on Steemit by following his...example. He forgets that he probably got teenage level fans cheering his pseudo-bleached style. Not many people are ready to sell their soul just for some bucks especially those of us that know what political rhetorics have already done to this world. If he is impersonation of liberty and justice then no wonder statists hate anarcho-capitalists.

This is not how Steemit should work. This is just sad.
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@leksimus · (edited)
Don't be upset Steve. If it means anything I was far more interested in your story about becoming security expert than in dollarvigilantes, although his story is interesting too and has great value (second post). I'm glad that anarchists came here to strengthen this community because steemit is just what they need to present their points and wake up world. Steemit is free for all and how we all behave will lead us to our future, but those with big power are far more responsible. 
I didn't upvote his introduction post because it didn't represent quality (also my upvote means shit). As you said most of the people here are not narcisoid and here we have potential make something beautiful. Post like that that get paid indeed bring up unjust feelings in people, but we are accustom​ed to injustice from real world, in fact, almost everything is unjust and wrong in modern world. We live in a world that is praising sport stars, singers, and playmates and gives them money, so steemit is same because it gets attention. 
Hardworking, nice, educate people don't get their real value today  and possibly never will until there is higher conscience for humanity.
For mister your post is concernig I wish him that he stops smoking because he will destroy himself if he continues on same path (those yellow fingers and ticks), because that what seems narcisoid on the outside is just a normal man with lots of worries, troubles and problems like we all do and he just deals with life like he best knows to.
P.S. 
Also I want to congratulate you on polarizing audience, that is by far one of great features of steemit content with so many different perspectives.
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@liondani · 
Nice post but I disagree also! 
I thing his distribution's will bring a lot of users/investment here.
It is the time we must impress people out there. I am sure we will not give our upvotes lightly in the future like now! I see it from my behavior... when I see now a post more than $500 I hardly upvote it even if I like it! Only if I am convinced it deserved to get hyped because it will be a great advertisement for steemit I do!
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@bendjmiller222 · 
I think it's good to discuss this @liondani. 

I obviously would like more people to come to steemit, but at the same time I want people to stay here and be helped by others. 

I think we can make the marketing work by taking the new people that @dollarvigilante brings and giving them tips on the best ways to bring out their voices. (Obviously @dollarvigilante doesn't have the time to do this all himself). 

If we can keep users from getting frustrated and badmouthing steemit, not only will we have a better community that is more positive, but helping minnows now, while not immediately visible in your wallet, will pay dividends later. 

Those you help should in return help you and help others. #payitforward is one of the best ways I can see to scaling to a site as large as redditt or facebook. 

I enjoy passing on my knowledge of some formatting to make articles look better, but others could help people edit articles and find good pictures etc. If we can all join together instead of splitting steemit will succeed in a way many platforms have failed
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@clevecross · 
Of course we will give our upvotes lightly. The curation system has made it a game. Vote on a post that you think will trend and get a little bit of the money the author gets
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@steve-walschot · 
I agree with your point. Like i said in my post, we need guys like him.
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@clevecross · 
THIS.... this right here is the steemit I want. So many posts with no content beyond the post. We're here, we are talking........ it's a good thing.
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@littlescribe · 
He's NOT promoting it as a get-rich quick site. He's EXPRESSLY saying the opposite. "If you like writing and feel like you have something important/interesting to say, you can do well on Steemit. The platform has been built to offer you the opportunity for success. But, believe me, it does not come 'overnight'." 

He's telling us not to sulk. He was an overnight success on STEEMIT, but he would NOT have been so had he not been a success in his personal and business life. So...be a success in your own life, and you'll get the same payout. Until then, we should be grateful for the recognition we get. It's awesome to be on here. Look at you! What you got out of this article started a huge debate. And racked up coins. Way to go on that.
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@logic · (edited)
$0.52
I'm glad that you also pointed out bullshit behind this guy's post. I thought that I was the only one. Sadly, I'm not a whale so almost no one pays attention to my posts.
I wrote this criticism of him yesterday:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@logic/truckloads-of-pseudo-anarchist-bollox-my-response-to-dollarvigilante-post-called-if-you-get-angry-others-are-making-money-on
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@lorddominik007 · 
"...@dollarvigilante may even earn 1million as far as i'm concerned - he's doing a great job... "

So is he doing a bad job like your post says or is he doinga great job like your ending statement says ? I agree with your post, people with giant followings get here, write a post(maybe show some boobs :-) go to twitter or whatever and say - look at that money I made ! Their fans get here expecting 1000s of $ and get discouraged after their first 3 posts make 0.01 (if they're lucky...) the rich get richer and I don't really see that much of a contribution...
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@mac-o · (edited)
Hi there, when i started reading the comments I was ready to grab my popcorn and enjoy the fun; but then i said f#ck it,  let someone else eat it, i'm jumping in.
This exchange of opinions between @dollarvigilante and @steve-walschot is quite interesting; but at the end of the day both and none of them are right. The only who can be right is the community as a whole, and the community has spoken.
Will they cheer for one more than the other? it could be, it could also be they cheer for both; the point is you get the upvotes not because you put marketing headlines or because you criticise who does it, you get the upvotes because whoever from the community reads it find what you posted interesting.
Myself as an example have upvoted this post, and the one dollarvigilante did explaining why he was not an overnight success, because even though they are distant points of view, both are very interesting. This is just my humble opinion.
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@mammasitta · 
I do not follow so called trending posts that much and  take lots of time to find so many other interesting ones with focus on topics I am interested in , mostly from people who show their "human" side , their skills without bragging how great they are. Their stories say IT all ! Personally, I prefer and like people who bring depth and their passion to this platform. I accidentally found this discussion and think its a very valuable one , so I explored on this man's blog a bit more , who's first post I actually up-voted as well but chose not to follow. I wanted to understand better what you wrote Steve . I agree with you 1000% ! Where is the humble side ? This kind of man turns me off . Look at him "throwing" his dollar bills in your face like nothing else would make you wanna stay on steemit but money. Yes , we are all here to earn little cash , invest in a very promising future for creatives but he seems like a robot to me , soulless . You intimidated me "dollar something " , strange enough you really threw me off for just one second. I made 200 in 2 weeks , more than I ever made in years on Facebook !! I am damn happy with my few little cents & & $ I earned with my stories . I do not want your advice and today I chose not to up vote you anymore , nor waste my time to comment . I am new in the blogging world , even though I have over 15000 followers on various platforms through my music promoter activities in the past . Don't misunderstand , I do respect this mans success and advice for the ones who value it . The picture of my success looks different . Steemit inspired me to write and also read more again even though I might fit into his sarcastic - DO NOT Write about-  " how to paint a fence " category . So what ! Who is he to say whats good or not , right or wrong . Some sheeps who need celebrities they can look up to , your " kind of human " might be important for this communities' growth. Thats ok ! So , enjoy among all of us little but cute , colourful fishes and stophhhh the noize !
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@martaxrodriguez · 
Nailed it

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@matrixdweller · 
Steemit is new. It is far more profitable for curation of a post within the first thirty minutes. I did not realize this until instead of my usual .001 reward I got  0.6 SP . Once users realize endlessly UpVoting high dollar posts is just the low hanging fruit. Payouts will balance out and content on the trending page will be coming from more and more people.
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@menta ·
$0.31
This post perfectly sums up the transformation I went through over the last weeks.
I, too, was blinded by the cash and promises of fast and easy internet money.
But after spending time in the community, getting to the intricate details of the currency and platform, and realizing the potential of it all, I did a 180 and am now a staunch advocate of Steemit.

Don't care anymore if my posts do well or not, as long as I can contribute to make this a better place, I'm happy.

Doing things like the event this Saturday really gets my blood pumping, and showing others how a platform like Steemit can change society as we know it, is what gets me in front of my computer each day.
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@doctorstrange · 
That's the spirit, man!

More long term believers instead of promoting a get rich quick scheme. Telling you it's going to backfire as much as it promotes. There are other ways to get where we need to go.

Slow and steady wins the race!!
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@timcliff · 
I find it interesting that you joined for reasons of fast/easy money, yet you stayed here for other reasons. It's actually kind of cool that that type of recruitment can work. Thanks for sharing.
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@menta · 
It was not the actual reason I joined though. I've always had a passion for tech and crypto. So it was logical for me to sign up here.
What I meant to say was that my first posts were more about 'chasing the money' than actually providing value.
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@merej99 · 
I actually follow @dollar-vigilante and you.  I totally get your point and agree with you ***100%***  I wouldn't personally be investing so much time here if I didn't think there was going to be some kind of payout.  Am I ever going to make 15 grand here?  I highly doubt it.  But I love this platform.  I'm beginning to gel with the people. I'm learning so much and a penny earned on a post is better than nothing!  
So, I have an objective view on everyone at this point because dad told me I need to start everyone at 100% and let them whittle themselves out of my life.  I'm celebrating 21 followers and my goal is to connect with more.
Have a great night, @steve-walschot - shout from that soap box!  :D
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@michaellamden68 · 
Steem is an extraordinary social platform and concept that is at present duplicating our modern day society. There is a clear distinction between the "have's" and "have not's" which is clearly represented within its core. I like many others have continued to post, curate, vote etc but obtained minimal rewards; also I have read many fantastic posts that have struggled to achieve anything. 

Then on the other hand you witness the mega posts with minimal content that are making serious "dollar". Yesterday I saw two separate two line comments on a post that had hit the $300 and still climbing!! Whilst I agree that success should be rewarded, but a two line comment? Come on!! Check the comments here? Well done to whoever profits from these incidents!!

Are we experiencing "herd" mentality? Is it a favouritism thing? Or is it simply "right place right time"?

I'm not certain if there is anything that can be done, maybe this will effect the status quo; maybe not?!?! Nevertheless steem will continue to go from strength to strength and by definition the devide will increase accordingly.
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@mikevas · (edited)
I am waiting for the first post from Kim Kardashian, showing off her huge butt in the cover pic and making 30k. This will be the begining of the end - if we are not already there. Paying posts with money in such a direct way kills quality and any meaningful discussion. Steemit will never replace Reddit or medium, or even a specific themed forum. There are a million tools, slack channels, gliph channels etc that try to pick potential trending posts for people to mindlessly u vote. I really doubt if vigilantes posts are read by more than 10% of those who upvote them. 

Apart from that, the value of steem is going down. You cannot track the dollar, when you pay 10k per celebrity post, the value *will* crash. And that's when the vigilantes will dissappear. Because they don't give a fuck.
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@milestone · 
I make close to nothing on most of my posts but I do believe in Steem and have invested hard earned bitcoins and cash into the steempower to gain more voting clout.    I am here for the long haul of what Steem can do.  I tell everyone Steemit is like finding out about Google two months after it launched.  If you had knowledge of what Google would become back then would you have acted differently.  The answer is YES 100% from those who I ask. Either they would invest in the company, Learn SEO and SEM and post more content that is relevant.    That is what Steem is to me and my wife @miacats.  Great post and i upvote you.
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@professorx · 
@milestone It continues to amaze me how many people share the same experience as me. I have invested a bitcoin into steemit, and will continue to invest more as I can. I am in it for the long-term investment because I believe in what Steemit can do. It is way more positive here than Facebook, even with the whale-haters! But even the whale haters are just a vote of no confidence in an algorithm. If that algorithm was tweaked better to include more diversity of content, then I do not believe you would see as many complaints.
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@professorx · 
BTW I followed you and miacats because I am interested in seeing how the smaller fish do over time!
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@moonguy · 
> Every post contains **How i made XXXX $ in just XX hours time! ** Every post has **but i earn it, **
I'm not a one night success and how hard he worked to make those bucks.

Voting up with all my negligible Steem Power. To the moon. :-)

**Reality bites**: [How I made $0.817 on Steemit within 10 days with 50 posts](https://steemit.com/steemit/@moonguy/how-i-made-usd0-817-on-steemit-within-10-days-with-50-posts).
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@moonjelly · (edited)
$0.57
Stop upvoting stupid shit.

I've wrote in this hack's posts without much results, this platform is dead full of zombies trying to grab some quick money and apparently he's the new pope. Look at his last post, flaunting money like he's a rockstar or a gangster and people clapping and upvoting, giving him more money. Apparently we are now living in a world that completely support these kind of behaviors and think of them as "winning at life".
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@tim-johnston · 
lol that "flaunting of money" is the bolivar....  what he is holding in his hands is worth like 5 USD...
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@applecrisp · 
heh, lol, didn't realize that it was worth that little :)
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@moonjelly · 
Of course, you can hold 15k with one hand, it doesn't have the same impact!
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@mootadoe · 
WOW, i think this is the best article i have read since i have been on steemit. I couldn't agree with you more man. This post is tits!!! I love it
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@mrgreen · 
there us nothing to add here. just take my modest upvote.
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@mrgrey · 
Although I am the one that made money on one comment in his second post which saved me for a bit financially and for which I am grateful, I have to agree with you steve, have a look at my posts, I think the quality is decent yet I only reach 5 cents in 4 hours, which I think look allot better than dollars yet when I watch his its a couple of hundred in a few minutes, am I jealous...nope I just dont understand, promoting steemit as a quick $$ money making funnel is not true no matter how your posts look its taking allot of damn hard work and patience.

[![@mrgrey](https://i.imgsafe.org/8cb9d0171b.jpg)](http://steemit.com/@mrgrey)
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@mrosenquist ·
$1.25
California was originally an unpopulated and largely unknown territory.  It really only took off when gold was discovered in the foothills of the Sierra.  It was the gold rush of 1849, where people migrated by the thousands to strike it rich.  A few did, but most did not.   
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However, an odd thing occurred.  People liked the area, weather, opportunities, and community.  So they stayed.  

Today, California is one of the most progressive, innovative, powerful, and incredible places in the world.   All because people came out to "strike it rich."

So Steemit, could be the next California.  Early settlers come to make their fortune, but most will realize it is not to be.  Then stay to be part of the community and gain different benefits and maybe a new place to call home.
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@blakemiles84 · 
# HISTORY!!!
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@najoh · 
I've been saying this all along since that clown arrived here but nobody want to listen.
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@ozcap ·
$0.04
That wasn't first and most likely not last example of a big payout to the professional blog writer or any other media pro. We all need to accept the fact that steemit is still in beta. At this time founders + big investors are focusing on speading the news about platform to attract popular in media people.
Most of us started to blog on steemit...practice made master! keep up what you do and all will be good in the long run.
"want better... do better" "want more...do more"
Be yourself, love youself, respect others, Steem and let other to Steem!
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@jsteck · 
The first was fine. People seem to have drawn the line at the third post about the first post.
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@pabich · (edited)
You seem to be forgetting that The Dollar Vigilante has over 13,000 Twitter followers; almost 50,000 YouTube subscribers (his 2-day-old YouTube video about Steemit has almost 13,000 views). He has 5,000 Facebook friends and 8,000 followers. The Dollar Vigilante Facebook page has 38,500 fans. The Anarchast Facebook page has 11,000 fans.

A majority of these people are a very targeted audience from within the business, financial, investment, anarchist, libertarian, bitcoin, and cryptocurrency communities.


So yeah, he has a very good mass marketing network of very specific targeted niche followers, which took him years to build. That's why he's more successful than the person with 50 Facebook friends, half of whom are their distant aunts and cousins they only met twice in their life that live on the other side of the country, who only check Facebook twice a month.

The same arguments against TDV can be hurled at any other social media influencer who has a large following, because Jeff is not the only one who is getting his posts bumped to the top. This isn't me trying to side with anybody, but just objectively looking at the truth.

This is not any different than any other "celebrity" with a large social media following plugging a product, and getting impressive results because of their reach. You better hope Kim Kardashian never jumps on here, because your head might explode.
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@pandaking · 
"Life isn't fair. Deal with it." - Jack Kennedy

Seriously though, I'm kind of sick of the I made $x in one day or I didn't and my post is better than X, or about whales, or about how great steemit is. How can this really last if the majority of the posts are about this?
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@partymeiker · 
I`ve been on this website now for 2 days and all i see is those posts.
You have a point and everyone should actually read your article.
Goodluck spreading the word !
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@pdogg147 · 
Content will win in the end.
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@pmc777 · 
@dollarvigilante would have done more for publicising this platform than most could achieve in  years.  If he came to the platform to tell you what was right or wrong with it I am sure that would not go down well either.  Seeing as you are well on the way to make 1K in a few hours on the back of @dollarvigilante post it is a win win.
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@professorx · 
@steve-walschot this is the best post I have seen all day, upvoted and followed you! To me, this is about genuineness. I think we can be critical in a genuine fashion, and that is great. What I worry are people who come to Steemit in ways that MLM or pyramiders do: a quick buck, do things my way to succeed, follow me kid, etc. The more days I spend here, the more I see it as a conversation platform. The amount of commenting is astounding, as well as interaction. In some ways, I am glad to start off small (ok, maybe at zero, but that's okay), because when I do begin to make dozens of dollars or hundreds, I will know that I earned it out of sheer talent, will and dedication.
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@razvanelulmarin · (edited)
$2.77
I make a post and make good $$ because I'm semi-famous.
I'll make one when I tell you how I made $$ fast. [ this one makes $$ too]
I'll make another:  don't hate me because YOU are a loser. just write better [ smiling all the way to the bank]
I'll make another: how do have my success! a GUIDE! [ selling like hot cakes]
.
.
.
how I wrote a book with my first 4 posts on steemit: only 9.99$ on amazon.
ugh!!


But ok, is that on him or on us for voting?

[ i honestly like dollarvigillante and I don't think he's bad for steemit in any way. I'm just wondering if that's a good trend to establish here...]
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@daut44 · 
This. People like his posts because they think the payouts will blow up for curator rewards, and they do. While he may be providing excellent content on national radio or on youtube debates, his articles thus far are strictly money grabs. But whatever brings more people to the site is ok in my eyes.
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@doctorstrange · 
Within reason. Just bringing warm bodies isn't enough.
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@reilag · 
<a href="https://steemit.com/@reilag"><img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/churchplantmedia-cms/living_grace_westminster/follow-me_wide_t_nv.jpg"></a>
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@rssnotebook · 
Hey, I thought this was a dating site for cryptocurrency traders.
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@sammy007 · 
I am here to read interesting posts. There are three kind of authors I found:

- Who is a fool? The fool is always want to pretend that he is more than he actually is.
- Clever people don't pretend, they know what they deserve and never want to seem lower or higher.
- Wise people always try to seem lower than their actual skill level because other people eventually will recognize and honour them.

For now I see the first part as "growing pains" and hope the situation can change in future.
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@professorx · 
"Fools and their money..."
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@sebastien · 
> if you are here for the money, then you probably do not deserve to stay.
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@smooth · (edited)
$1.14
Flagged because this is redundant Steemit circlejerk. I support the idea and I even ended up downvoting @dollarvigilante's latest post, but capitalizing on Steemit circlejerk with these posts is wrong. Let's upvote all the great content that brings new value to Steemit (and I can assure you there is a lot of it) and not dozens of posts that talk about nothing but Steemit (positive and negative) every single day.
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@somedude · 
As a woman i find dollarvigilante repulsive
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@mammasitta · 
Repulsive is a very mild word for men like him
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@somethingsea · (edited)
"Want To Be A Steemillionaire? Here Are The Crucial Things To Do For Newbies on Steemit
13 hours ago by dollarvigilante63
(Image not shown due to low ratings)"
"(Image not shown due to low ratings)"
The ONLY TWO images! In a post talking about the importance of images!

Well. I'm glad steemit can tell bullshit when its users see it.

Oh wait... I can see it now:
"I was unfairly censored by jealous steemit users!"
I will facepalm if he goes that route.
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@steemist · 
Most of you guys completely missed the point. I do not completely disagree with @steve-walschot nor I completely agree with @dollarvigilante . Check my response here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@steemist/in-response-of-critics-against-dollarvigilante-made-by-steve-walschot-and-the-truth-behind-all-the-story-both-sides-are-covered
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@steemithelper1 · 
Hi a friend was actually telling me about steemit yesterday and said i could earn quick easy cash untill i read your article thank you for writting it as i now understand and would like you to look at my article and plz tell me if it is worthy or not
https://steemit.com/games/@lovetosteemit/video-games
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@stellabelle · (edited)
$56.33
I agree with you Steve. I can see it from both viewpoints actually. I think what is required of dollarvigilante is more depth, more humility. Many of us, myself included, give others Steem dollars on a daily basis. I am doing a daily service for minnows who have no traction or cannot post their intimate stories on their own blog. I pay people every day for their secrets. Meanwhile, I'm sort of old news in Steemit as far as the whales are concerned. This is to be expected actually since they heap money on those with tremendous followings. But it's also short-sighted because the workhorses continue working, day in day out, and they are the true backbone of Steemit. When this happens, it's time to move into the next phase of strategy. I would like to see dollarvigilante's ideas of how he can transfer his wealth to others and what that system would look like. The whales transfer their wealth to others daily. I do too. This is an expected thing of whales, to transfer energy, wealth and reputation to others, in a constant way. That's being part of a healthy ecosystem. Just raking in easy cash and telling people they can do the same is not sustainable.
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@ats-david · 
I agree wholeheartedly, @stellabelle. I would love for my project to be picked up by some whales. Any idea how that could happen? I'm just a minnow, but I have big plans.

https://steemit.com/anarchism/@ats-david/enriching-lives-through-the-power-of-steemit
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@drinkzya · 
i just upvoted @stellabelle for the first time
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@innuendo · (edited)
$45.82
> Just raking in easy cash and telling people they can do the same is not sustainable.

The point is, he's telling people that they can do the same *only if* they are ready to follow his entire path. You cannot expect to take the upsides without going through the downsides first. For me, this is the essence of  @dollarvigilante 's message and I find it very uplifting.
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@knozaki2015 · 
Hello Stellabelle,
great post and i think you nailed it.

i started giving 10% of my earnings out (https://steemit.com/giveback/@knozaki2015/paging-all-fellow-steemians-let-s-give-back-part-of-our-earnings-to-make-steemit-better)

i would love if we could have a chat, are you on steemit chat?
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@mrgrey · 
@stellabelle thank you for supporting minnows its awesome of you
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@professorx · 
@stellabelle I was a bit turned off by his latest post of holding cash, etc etc. There were good tidbits of creating good posts, so I did give an upvote. But I don't think that type of marketing is sustainable long-term My take is that Steemit is a place for conversation, and a place to connect. Anyone who sees it only as a way to make money will probably get frustrated as rewards level out for them. I talk about this in my post: https://steemit.com/steemit/@professorx/a-penny-for-your-thoughts-are-upvotes-worth-usd-01
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@akareyon · 
>  Anyone who sees it only as a way to make money will probably get frustrated as rewards level out for them

But that's perfect for all those who are here who see Steemit as a place for conversation and a place to connect first. Let nature weed itself out and the Steem drop under half a Dollar. They'll come back later. Meanwhile, we figure out how this thing works and build a community.
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@razvanelulmarin ·
$0.06
I am glad you decided to write a long comment! Bravo, totally in agreement, we are not here to hate on other's people success we are to push for everyone's success, for everyone who spend time and energy on steemit, for steemit, each with his own talents, experience, expertise...

We're in it together and we should not forget.  From minnows to whales.
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@steve-walschot · 
Thx!
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@thebluepanda · 
@stellabelle I was looking for your comment! :) I agree to agree with you. I am still waiting for Jeff to give back some of his "hard-earned" cash. 
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@innuendo ·
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>  I am still waiting for Jeff to give back some of his "hard-earned" cash.

What's wrong with you people? It's his reward, not yours. He owes you nothing. If you keep perpetuating attitudes like these, everyone will lose and Steem will indeed crash.
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@steve-walschot ·
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Only one word here Steemians...

# AMAZING! 

This has to be the **best debate** in a comment section ever :-)
Reading trough it all, many good things have been said so far.

There is no right or wrong, only good debaters!
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@rittr · 
Yes! Right. and i belive we see more of this great bebates on steemit.
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@stevehodder · 
I don't see how on a platform based upon free speech and freedom that we can reasonably in good conscience as someone to change who they are just to suit the community. You live and die by the content you post in you own individual style. Some people are humble and some people are brash, some are introvert and some are extrovert. Yes I agree it;s OK to have opinions and pass judgements, but don't be expecting people to change their unique personality to fit the Steemit mould. There is no mould to fit we are free to bring value any way we like surely?
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@stormcloudgather · 
https://steemit.com/steemit/@stormcloudgather/observation-if-you-re-here-for-money-you-ll-treat-it-like-work#@stormcloudgather/re-skum-re-stormcloudgather-observation-if-you-re-here-for-money-you-ll-treat-it-like-work-20160810t134130693z

This get rich quick circle jerk mentality is creating a bubble.
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@stormcloudgather · 
https://steemit.com/steemit/@stormcloudgather/observation-if-you-re-here-for-money-you-ll-treat-it-like-work#@stormcloudgather/re-skum-re-stormcloudgather-observation-if-you-re-here-for-money-you-ll-treat-it-like-work-20160810t134130693z

This get rich quick circle jerk mentality is creating a bubble.
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@supersune · 
Every hero need a villain
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@taoofsatoshi · 
Wow, the anti @dollarvigilante sentiment runs high today... I'm sure we will be hearing a rebuttal post soon..
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@thecryptofiend · 
Thanks for raising this point. I think a lot of us get blinded by seeing the big money payouts and it causes a kind of hysterical blindness.

In all honesty the big money/whale vote thing is a double edged sword.  On the one hand it draws people in and acts as advertising.  On the other as I said  it blinds people to the ACTUAL long term potential where whale votes will become less and less significant to success and actual numbers of people will be enough to support content through votes.  

That doesn't even take account of all the other potential applications like a marketplace or  a place to sell services like artistic skills etc. etc.
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@thegamer · 
you are 1000% right here are some people who are making some good content they are wasting hours or maybe days to post something here but no one upvote even if they are deserving and some other people just introducethemselves in small paragraph because they are well known or have a website or something get thousands of upvotes.
 i am felling very sad for the deserving and creative ones
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@thomaslknapp · 
I love the point in development of a new idea -- any kind of idea -- where the  discussion about what it really should be all about becomes sufficiently heated that sparks start flying.

Thanks for contributing to that, and if anyone slags you for it, well, non illegitimi carburundum (and I offer that same advice to @dollarvigilante).
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@thowillask · 
I also saw the post you refer to, and reading your post I can see where you are coming from in your content.

I am a new member, and I know that there is no way that I will get rich quick. If that were the reason for my joining this group, after my short period of membership with my wallet at $6.50, I would be gone.

I am here to provide myself with a learning situation and improve my writing skills, with the possibility of earning some money, though that is not my motivation.

I agree that the 'boasting,' though he deny's this, of his 15K money rush. When I read his post, I did note that he admitted to some 'unfair'advantages, that most people on steem would not be able to aspire too.

It reminds me and it infuriates me that it could bring us down to the level of the on-line guru's who you pay much money, as they promise a lot, but you get nothing in return. As in this case how many of us are going to get that, 15K, 20K or even 50K post.

I can only hope that there will be no more post's effectively putting all other members at a disadvantage. As a result causing some to leave believing that they are to provide fodder for elite others to cash-in.

I am here to improve myself and my writing abilities.

Or is this what it is all about.
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@timcliff · (edited)
I like what you wrote in your article. It brings up a very important discussion about the future of the Steemit community. The celebrity post take-offs, and the idea that we are going to attract a ton of people to this site this way, is misguided (in my opinion). We are just attracting more people who want to exploit Steemit to make quick/easy money.

Personally I am not against the fact that @dollarvigilante's post made as much as it did, or that he got all excited and kept posting more about how awesome it was. If I was making $15,000 I would probably be posting a pretty awesome review myself :) Maybe his contribution of joining really is worth that much to the community. Who am I to say that it's not.

I think it is really important that we as a community decide on how we want to promote Steemit though. Do we want to advertise it as a way to make quick easy money, or an awesome platform that has huge long-term potential?

I want to end on one big point though - It is the voters who really decided that his content was worth so much more than all the other great contributes that were posting that day. If we have an issue with @dollarvigilante making that much on his posts, our issue is really with everyone that upvoted it, and not him.
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@artist1989 · 
Well said! I totally agree.
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@desibeatnik · 
I'm fairly new on here but from what I understand it was a combination of whales as well as the minnows who probably predicted it would be popular and wanted the curation rewards.  Not hating on anyone or saying he doesn't have a lot of fans.
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@tinfoilfedora · 
Excellent observation.
What this site really needs is to create a Bio page, and get rid of the paid Introductions. (they are pretty narcissistic) It is attracting scammers, there are posted guides on how to farm it, it needs to stop. I wrote a post about how to stop it: [Stop voting for Introductions and Steemit guides](https://steemit.com/steemit/@tinfoilfedora/how-to-stop-the-scams-stop-voting-for-introductions-and-steemit-guides)
If you had to post good content first, instead of a cheesy pick up line, the whole vibe would change.
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@tuck-fheman · 
Upvoting because you stirred up a lively debate. :)
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@vi1son · 
I agree 100% with it:
>stop posting on how you made so much money, because it's a slap in the face for many users
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@wisehammer · 
You are right,that is, involuntary hitting you in the nuts, and making you more angry than what you actually are. Even if you post it in the right way,it doesn't matter,if you just do it with your heart nobody cares,if you do it with a business mind then maybe you can afford some cash, now,we are here to grow as community,not to be a fast grab and run with the money, we use the money to reinvest in the platform.for me,I cash out when I have about half steemdollar,because its what I earn weekly,and reinvesting it in steemit its just a lost game,when I will hit big half of what I will earn will be reinvested in steempower, and the other will be used to friggin buy what I need for my ultimate goal to be happy. I tried to express my unhappiness with a post but nobody cares cause I don't have much followers. But thanks for the post,useful.
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