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Daily Dose of Sultnpapper 06/08/18> Make that four steps back…
![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSokHMxjWeioJ5moCtiZwqZYPp4oSD83kcdasqhKdC3Cj/image.png)When last I left you I said, “then I found the problem…” and that I would continue this story in the next daily dose. Well here we are, the night was short; Thursday was long and I am no closer to solving the problem. In fact I am further away and less optimistic at this point then when I left you yesterday. The one thing I can say is, I'm not giving up.

I did prove one thing to myself and it has to do with the brick and mortar story from a while ago, it is much better to do business with locals when you can, in their establishment if possible. NPC Automotive Computers proved that to me on Thursday in Houston. From the initial phone call, to going there and having the spare computer programmed, it was a good experience in dealing with them. Miss Jennifer, was very polite and knowledgeable on the phone and when she asked what I needed she listened to what I was looking for them to do for me.

The initial car computer company that jacked me around and sent me three computers of which one only worked for a short period of time initially and then left the wife stranded at the local store, $85 towing fee to boot to get the van back to the house since I was out of town and couldn’t go pick it up with the trailer. But after that they sent me another computer that was a total screw up since the VIN number in the computer was not even close to my VIN number, it never stood a chance to work, and it wouldn’t even power anything on the van. I held off sending that back to them and I am glad I did.

NPC was able to program that computer and I took it and went and changed out the one in the van for the newly programmed one, I was sure in my mind that this would solve the problem. Unfortunately it didn’t solve it. Jennifer had given me a quote on a new computer, just in case this programmed one didn’t work. I had stuck the newly programmed one in when I went home for lunch, but rather than extract it and take it with me I took the one that had been in the van that came from North Carolina. These companies rebuilt them so they need the dead ones, they are referred to as “cores” and some places charge a “core charge”, which is basically a deposit that you get refunded when they get your old computer back from you.

The price to get the programming done that morning I was told would be $75.00 but when I paid Jennifer only charged me $50, she said she had the discretion to change the price, and I guess my charm just got $25 knocked off the price. 

She also told me that if I needed a new computer that she would refund the $50 and apply it to the price of the new computer. That is a really sweet deal, and she did exactly that when I went and picked up the rebuilt one that their shop had done. Most places would say, “screw you” since she tried to sell me a new one to begin with. As I paid for the new unit she told me that NPC holds on to the unit that you bring in as a core for 30 days. If I determine that I really didn’t need the computer I can bring the new one back and get my old one from them, there would be a 20% restocking fee but who cares, she gave 33% off on the programming and then would allow me to return the new unit for a refund is pretty much unheard of when it comes to electrical parts.

The one they programmed for me turns out that it does work, I didn’t have one of the four connectors in tight and it wasn’t getting power. It also registered the exact codes that my original computer from North Carolina showed, so that more than likely means that one is good as well. To complete the trifecta; the NPC computer also registered the same codes. So, I have 30 days to return it and get a refund, which I plan on doing, so I will get the NC computer back and it should be good, and I still have the programmed controller that should be good as well.

So for $40 and little bit of time I should end up with two good computers. The van still isn’t running as of the moment but I am not giving up, I spent the evening Thursday tearing into the wiring now, checking wires for continuity and resistance. The narrowing down process is well underway; it is just a matter of time now until I find the problem. 

I should have scrapped this van to begin with, but now it isn’t about the van any longer, it is about whether or not I can find and fix the problem. Electrical isn’t my strong suite, I am a water guy. I can read a schematic and I found a place online that has just about every service bulletin and schematic for every vehicle made in the last 60 years. Schematics are like treasure maps are to pirates, there should always be a golden result if you can follow the schematic.

So, the end result up to this point is I know what the problem “isn’t” , I just don’t know for sure what the problem is or where it is.

When I do figure it out and fix I will let you know.  I’m not going to make this any longer of series than I have too. The daily dose was never intended be a novel with chapters. It is intended to be just an old man telling his “short” stories, and this short is electrical.

Until next time,
@sultnpapper 

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@bigtom13 ·
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Let's see.  If I got it figured right, about 3 more trades with Jennifer and you could come out with a net money gain on the project.

A couple years ago I decided on a leisurely trip to my ancestral homelands for the bi annual family reunion.  I hadn't ridden the Pacific Coast Highway in at least 30 years and I left myself plenty of time to look at stuff on the way.

I had Connie loaded.  Bags secured, ready to go.  Out the door at 0400 and a dead motorcycle.  I mean nothing.  So I replaced the battery, which are prone to failure in this heat.  Nope.  Then the main battery connection line.  Nope.  Unload completely and start stripping off plastic.  3 days later and I am finally ready to go in a straight fast line to the family reunion.  It's now at least 32 years since I've ridden the PCH :)  It was a connection problem that I could source and fix locally, cost about $3.00.  Just took some time to find it and more time to put everything back together again.

So I get it.  It's not about the van it's about fixing the van.  Huge difference.  Good luck with it.  You've about earned a break this week.
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@sultnpapper ·
Yes, you nailed it, it is about proving to myself I can do it.  Once I get into something like this it becomes almost like an obsession for me. Thanks for the good luck wishes, I will need them. I could just buy a new wiring harness for the computer and hope that solved the problem, but I want to find the problem now, and when I do it will probably be a wire, and at that point I may just buy a wiring harness. Because depending on how much wire I have to remove tape from before I find the problem will be the determining factor, I hate taping wire harnesses, it is time consuming and you never can get them back like the original.
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@cecicastor ·
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I used to have an old dodge van. The problem with it is that is they age their goes bad. I ended replacing the whole wiring harness which in fact was cheaper in the long run.
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@sultnpapper ·
I hate replacing parts without knowing that it is in fact the problem. That is exactly what the dealers do, replace stuff until the problem no longer exists. I like to find the problem or problem part and then fix it. It is a challenge for sure, but I am up for it and will continue on.
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@cecicastor ·
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Hope you find the problem soon! It is annoying when you can't something to work!
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My head is spinning just reading about this.
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@sultnpapper ·
Not an easy read by any means,  but that is what happens when I can barely stay awake to write the dose. Maybe it was my subconscious mind taking over and wanting to confuse the readers like I had been confused trying to figure out the problem.
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@paparodin ·
Meeting face to face is just the best, be it in private, to do business, hell, even if you just go grocery shopping. I am quite old fashioned when it comes to these things actually.
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@sultnpapper ·
Yes, even grocery shopping now can be reduced to online shopping and then have it delivered. How can you squeeze those melons with your mouse?
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@paparodin ·
Only a matter of time until we have some kind of sensory VR application for that.
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@squishysquid ·
Haha what a mess! Its not even my van, and I am frustrated for you!

Have fun figuring it out. I guess we all need a challenge from time to time.
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I get that it isnt even about fixing it anymore. Its like a puzzle you need to solve. Perhaps a victory over the darn van that has caused you so much frustration. 
If you cant get it though, It might be just as satisfying to take it to the scrap yard and watch them pick it up and drop it onto metal mountain.... Just an idea.
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@sultnpapper ·
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I can assure you there was no fun in this situation. But it was a definite learning situation for me.
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@squishysquid ·
Well... at least there was learning. :/
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@tattoodjay ·
Dealing in person is always better and Jennifer and the local company seem to have the right attitude to retain customers

Good luck narrowing down the issue
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@sultnpapper ·
Thanks, I am going to need the luck. The waiting area is right at the front and Jennifer and the other girl working the phones and the walk in customers were great with the customers. Never once did I hear either of them just say, "NPC please hold" which was all the other company would do as soon as they picked up the call.
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As you are hunkered over the engine, be careful not to fall into that mess of computers and wiring. They will assimilate you and we will lose you forever... 😬  LOL
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@sultnpapper ·
I am well into the mess of wires now, to late for that bit of advice but thank you for thinking of me.
I have got to get back out there and fight the good fight. I've needed to try and catch up on replies and such but it is heating up fast today.
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