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Bloody Doom Loops and Forking Economies by tarazkp

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· @tarazkp ·
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Bloody Doom Loops and Forking Economies
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### I like it bloody. 

*And, it looks like it is going to lose a lot of blood at this stage.*

The inflation rate hit 9.1% and after increasing the total money supply by about 40% over the last two years, they are *still surprised* by this. Lol, the "incompetence" is astonishing.

*Our incompetence,* that is.

They know exactly what they are doing.

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For example in Australia, the government pumped 20 billion into getting those struggling to get into the market, a home. The problem? Well, they gave they printed that money up, but they did nothing to increase the supply of houses, so what anyone should realize would happen, happened. Prices of houses went up dramatically, making it even harder for the people who were trying to get in, to get in. Who benefitted, the same as always, *the people who were already in.* Massive profits for home owners and investors - massive costs for everyone else who had to take on higher debt.

>Oh, but debt is okay, because the interest rates are so low.

Yeah, but those interest rates go up when inflation increases as it is the only mechanisms the central banks have to control it and, they just printed 40% more money supply, saying "printing money like water doesn't cause inflation". So now, all those new home buyers are lumped with a high debt load after buying the peak, the interest rates are rising pushing them to breaking point and, the value of the house they bought is crashing.

>Sweet!

But don't worry.... We are entering into the...

# DoomLoop

*OOOooooooooooohhhaaaaaaa*

It sounds ominous. 

But, according to Arthur Hayes who is the ex-CEO of BitMex, $1 USD being equal to €1 Euro, is the signal needed to pump up the value of Bitcoin to 1 million. This is actually not hard to do, all that really needs to happen is that the governments keep printing money to dilute the supply until 1 million dollars buys a carton of milk and BTC will have parity. 

But really, there is "some" sense to this hopium, because it leverages the sheer incompetence of governments to manage themselves in way that is for the benefit of the average person, *or other governments.* Essentially, the DoomLoop, is summed up here:

>Hayes’s doom loop scenario sees the Euro and US dollar both depreciating in favour of “hard” savings commodities such as gold and Bitcoin, with central banks resorting to yield curve control (YCC) amid out-of-control inflation.

>Elaborating further, Hayes wrote: “as gold succeeds so will Bitcoin … Why should any central bank ‘save’ in any Western fiat currency, when their savings can be expropriated arbitrarily and unilaterally by the operators of the digital fiat monetary networks?”

I didn't know what Yield Curve Control was, but have had a bit of experience with curves on Steem and Hive in the past, so looked it up: [Investopedia](https://www.investopedia.com/what-is-yield-curve-control-4797189)

Sounds like fun. Especially this part in the "disadvantages" section at the bottom.

>Moreover, YCC could spur companies to increase their already heavy debt loads, while punishing pension funds and other savers.

Read all those articles about "topping up your retirement funds" with extra? Well, now that it is in there, if they introduce YCC, it will be bled out nicely. Awesome!

### More blood. 
 
*Love it. Live it. Drink it.*

So, if the DoomLoop is correct, the savings in fiat currencies by central banks will become even more unattractive, because the "owners" of those currencies can devalue it at their whim and on a very short time frame like two years (short in reality, not in crypto). So, instead of this, the central banks will have to look for alternative resources, which means... gold and (with hopium) Bitcoin (and hopefully other digital assets). 

Now, I don't know about Bitcoin being worth a million dollars anytime soon (Hayes did say "this will take time"), but I do think that we are entering into unchartered territories in so many ways economically, that *something has to happen.* The wheels are going to come off the box car whilst hurtling down the hill and the economy is going to spill all over the road, with broken bones, lost limbs and...

### Blood everywhere!

But, the thing with financial economies is that they are man made and are driven by the laws of supply and demand. What this means is that as long as humans are around to trade, *they will always recover.* But, this recovery doesn't mean that they will always stay in the same form and follow the same applied rules. 

Essentially, like a blockchain fork that changes the code, the code of the economy is always changing too and has always done so. Economic disruption is not new, nor is economics as a whole and it has all changed over time many times before, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse but, it has always driven us in the general direction of technologically *forward.* 

That is interesting, isn't it?

No economy in the past has had at its disposal what we have at ours now and we have the power to act as our own financial agents anywhere on earth, literally in the palm of our hands. This is an incredibly interesting time to live, because unlike those who have come before us, we are able to connect and interact with each other instantaneously anywhere on earth. This means that the way we manage ourselves is driven by how we gather with each other and collaborate and, we aren't bound to the arbitrary lines of nations, because we are able to build communities globally. 

This *fundamentally* changes the economic activity possible and, the way it needs to be managed, in the same way that Keynesian economics never factored the likes of Amazon and Google type companies and the way they operate in the economy. Now, Adam Smith was all about limiting government intervention and increasing free market systems, but has that been the way it has gone over the last decades? Not at all - the "free market" is not free at all - it is engineered by the governments to suit their purpose, a purpose that suits the narrow few. 

So, now that we have the tools and are able to manage ourselves, what is going to happen? Well, isn't it funny that the DoomLoop relies on the central banks shifting their savings strategies away from themselves and into systems that are decentralized? Well, it makes sense because like it or not, the only reason that anything has value, is because it is backed by demand. So at the end of the day, no matter what the governments and the banks do, if we change our consumer habits, they have to fork their codes too, in order to capture demand. 

This is competition in action, but for the first time in history, it isn't the competition between two products, two companies, two teams, two nations - it is the competition between the centralized economy and, the decentralized econom*ies.*

It doesn't matter if Bitcoin ever reaches a million dollars or not, because that marker point is based in fiat, which is quickly becoming irrelevant as an indicator of anything. What matters is what value it has in trade between people and in terms of economic integrity, whether it can be trusted. 

>Interesting - for a trustless system.

Economies are always in a constant push and pull process of bleeding and healing, but what the hope is, that more balance can be found so that it isn't the masses that are doing all the economic bleeding, while the select few do all the healing.

But, due to fear and economic illiteracy, changing people's behaviors to support a decentralized economy, is like getting blood from a stone, instead of a nice, juicy slab of 

### ~~steak.~~

### Stake. 

Taraz
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@bashadow ·
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I think one of the things few people see about crypto and fiat conversion is it really does not matter if bitcoin goes to one million, if that one million will only buy you a loaf of bread.
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@tarazkp ·
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Exactly. I was talking to some friends a couple weeks ago about how little a million is these days. Yet, we are still conditioned to use it as the marker. 
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@dandays ·
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I LoL'd at your *sounds like fun* impression of YCC.

Them Smith boys sure get around, first John and now Adam. I'll keep an eye out for your Eve update.
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@tarazkp ·
One of my Grandad's friends was Bob Smith. I assume a close relation. 
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@emeka4 ·
I always say we are all entitled to our own opinion on issues like this especially when it involves the fluctuation of Crypto prices. Cryptocurrency existence is still very much acceptable despite the heavy dip in price and more Investment is still done in investing than saving up in a bank
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@tarazkp ·
Savings in the bank end up costing more than they are worth. It is good to have a little bit stashed away with easy access for emergencies, but long term, the majority has to be converted to something that generates value beyond the cost of holding.
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@forexbrokr ·
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RE: Bloody Doom Loops and Forking Economies
Hayes has been talking about [the doom loop](https://blog.bitmex.com/the-doom-loop/) for a while and it's a super interesting concept which makes a lot of sense.

Not sure why news.com.au are suddenly picking it up this week.

I guess they can't run *Bitcoin crashing* headlines 7 days a week.

6? 

Sure.

But this is the changeup they need on day 7 ;)

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@tarazkp ·
A while ago I had come across the YCC thing but didn't have a look at it in any detail before. I hadn't heard of the doomloop, though the move away from fiat is well, what every crypto person predicts in hope that one day it justifies our obsession. 

What I am more interested in is the competition between centralised and decentralised forms of business and the economy overall, as that is the crux of it all. In a year, the news will pick up in it too perhaps. :) 



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@hostingowy ·
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great read
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@tarazkp ·
Thank you - you should update your profile image and get involved more on Hive :)
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@idksamad78699 ·
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>They know exactly what they are doing.

Exactly!

Childhood days were better when we thought printing more money would solve the problems 

Now after getting know about the truth we can't bear this pain anymore inflation isn't letting people take breath in peace for a second.

>Prices of houses went up dramatically

Here as well, houses, lands or even petrol station owners are in huge profits

They've stock tons of petrol for cheap and the price is drastically going up - not selling for the low prices and making huge profits oh i mean robbing people like government like businessman like nation. (Everything is connected).

>pump up the value of Bitcoin to 1 million

Don't give me hope (jk) - though i read somewhere bitcoin correlation with US dollar is decreasing which is a good thing for btc as of the global economy is collapsing - Your views? Oh i see....

>Hayes did say "this will take time

Maybe i should comeback in 2077 cyberpunk world to see $1m hehe 

>economy is going to spill all over the road, with broken bones, lost limbs

our country is about to become the prime example after Sri lanka.

>financial economies is that they are man made and are driven by the laws of supply and demand.

But mostly undeveloped countries economies running on debts or balancing country economy taking loans - will end up or already being ended up so badly - would love to know your thoughts about this.

Always loved to read you man! Learned a lot today and have raised some questions!

>we aren't bound to the arbitrary lines of nations, because we are able to build communities globally.

This is the fact! - as you said sooner or later they'll have to change their codes, you said the whole thing very well!

More respect to you.!














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@tarazkp ·
>Maybe i should comeback in 2077 cyberpunk world to see $1m hehe

I think that this is the best approach - just cryofreeze (cryptofreeze in this case) and skip all the BS :D

And I am sorry about the short reply here - I am in a bit of a rush this morning - I did read it all though :)
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@jagged ·
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Read The Creature From Jekyll Island :) Global Communism is allegedly the goal.

FIAT Debt Based systems will always fall to zero.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

― Alexander Fraser Tytler
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@tarazkp ·
Great! 

Add to this that the average voter is getting stupider, especially since there is a difference in the number of children being born across economic classes, and it is obvious where it all leads, isn't it? 

1:1 Democratic voting doesn't work, because it doesn't allow for specialist skills to have more weight than non specialists. And, due to the nature of specialization, there are always more non-specialists that know very little, than specialists - and the non-specialists are active voters, regardless of their lack of knowledge - plus, they can only vote for one person, as if one person is able to meet all of their nuanced needs. The entire system is so fundamentally flawed, it is amazing it was given a chance to be applied at all. 
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@jagged ·
I vote to exclude "economist" & "meteorologist" specialists and leave that to that octopus that picks out the sports winners.


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VS

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@jfang003 ·
$0.18
RE: Bloody Doom Loops and Forking Economies
I have to agree. People keep valuing things in fiat and it's going to be hard to convert them into valuing things in crypto. However, this will rely on having more places to spend crypto in daily life.

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@tarazkp ·
Splinterlands is a good example of how people start to change their thinking - pricing a lot of the in-game stuff in SPS or DEC. Of course ultimately, most are still bound to the fiat world relationship - but it is a beginning.
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@joanstewart ·
$0.18
Difficulty is getting people to think, question.

Too many held to ransom in fiat holdings in hopes all will rectify, after all they still printing!

Another through provoking piece thanks.
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@tarazkp ·
Just today I was talking to a guy who is very smart, but is still struggling to come to terms with how things can work without a central authority. 
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@joanstewart ·
$0.19
Have found many willing to discuss not try by involving themselves into a little learning. 

Most cannot get over the hurdle that anything able to be traded has value when mutually acceptable, have been through regions where beads or buttons were used, what is a coin? For that matter was is central authority but another agreement as are borders or any other man made idiom.

Trust you are feeling a whole lot better, life treating you and family well.
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@ryivhnn ·
$0.19
I do like a bloody rare steak.

<sub>it seems to gross out the rest of the family though XD</sub>

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@tarazkp ·
It is not common in Finland, as the meat used to not be overly fresh, so they are more the "medium-well" kinds of people. It is changing though and even my wife has started eating it bloodier. 
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@ryivhnn ·
Yeh you probably want it thoroughly cooked if it's not the freshest XD

<sub>or chicken or pork</sub>
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@shortsegments ·
$0.18
RE: Bloody Doom Loops and Forking Economies
Wow what a bloody mess.
Quite the appropro metaphor.

Sometimes I feel like we need help from the Gods, God, Deity, insert diety name.

But then I remember that :
> God helps those .. that help themselves first.

So away I go..to help myself..more Bitcoin please.
:)

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@tarazkp ·
God - the original hopium gateway. 
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@videoaddiction ·
$0.18
>the savings in fiat currencies by central banks will become even more unattractive...

If talk about my country, they have been decreasing the policy interest rate for about one year contrary to the whole world and hyper inflation. Therefore, the savings at banks have been melting down day by day. Cryptocurrencies would be a better option to save the value of their money if they didn't lose trust in people's eyes in recent months.
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@tarazkp ·
When it comes to fiat, hold nothing.... 
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