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Broken influencers and the business models that break them
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As a continuation from a post on [social influence and Hive,](https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@tarazkp/a-little-influencer-goes-a-long-way) this one will look a little at the negative sides of "click metrics" as the driver for building social influence, which is the way pretty much all of the "free" platforms monetize their influencers in one way or another. 

Essentially, to be monetized on the majority of social platforms like Instagram, it requires building a following in order to generate clicks and influence sales of products. This following is then categorized and segmented, so that it can be leveraged as a granular network for advertisement distribution. Each user becomes a "known node" in the platform that the algorithms are able to target for various purposes, getting tailored information to each. Being able to do this is *Highly lucrative* to the platforms and this is the model that generates the vast majority of income for Facebook and Google.

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This works, because we all work on incentives of various kinds that motivate our behavior. What these platforms have incentivized is the activity of attention seekers, with the goal of attracting views, regardless of what generates those views. As a result, there are all kinds of behaviors that are in play and rewarded, even if they are not healthy. 

In some ways, it is like the ["paperclip problem"](https://voxeu.org/article/ai-and-paperclip-problem) regarding AI, where an AI has been given a simple task to maximize paperclip production, resulting in total destruction as it increasingly allocates resources to satisfy its program, until there is nothing left. The difference is, the platforms are doing it with humans and the paperclip is *attention.*

People looking to be monetized know that they need to attract attention, so they do various things to this end, from buying subscribers to appear popular, to releasing sextapes for notoriety. Whatever it is, they have to find a way to stand out from the pack vying for our attention - and as the prize of "workless wealth" is so lucrative, they will do near anything. But, they need to be able to garner enough clicks to trigger the monetization algorithms into play.

This means that they don't have to worry about *who* follows them,  only *how many* follow them and are willing to click-through on products and the like. This means that if they are too narrowly focused on a specific area, they are not going to get enough interested parties, especially if they are largely unskilled.  This is why social platforms are full of attention-grabbing content and clickbait, headlines that evoke an emotion, drama, victimhood and images that productize the person - because it is the easiest way to get attention. 

But, while the incentive is there to behave in this way, it doesn't mean it is healthy. The problem with doing anything for attention is that if what one is doing isn't aligned with who we are and what we enjoy, it is like a person who is pressured into sex when they don't actually want to or aren't ready, it is damaging. The process of getting attention is quite unnatural for most, so this disengages them from reality, and then what they have to do in order to get it and try to keep it, disengages them from themselves - Which is why daily in the news, we are seeing another "influencer" have a break down or worse, *suicide.* 

But, the profit model of the platforms don't care about this, as they are able to leverage a small follower network in the same way as a large one, since it is algorithms and auction bots doing the work - nothing is manual. This means they can keep incentivizing the top with reward and make it feel that "anyone" can get there, as long as they play the game. It doesn't matter how many burn themselves out in the process, the algorithm will bleed the value dry and then, drop them. It doesn't have to move on even - as it is running *all the time* on *everyone.* 

The reason that this model works for the platforms is they can play a numbers game and they control the gateways of monetization. The advertisers have to go through them to get to market, the creators have to go through them to get to advertisers. The users, are the market that they have access to, which is market potential for both sides, sales for the advertisers, eyes for the creators and the common incentive of money derived from user attention.

and the platforms have it good, because they have set up an incentive program that encourages clickbait content for the masses to consume, where potential "influencers" (and many wannabes) sell themselves to the audience for free, but still generate a mass of clicks. The networks that the platform leverages works very much like a Multi-level marketing pyramid scheme, where each creates a layer of user contacts, and each of that layer create a layer of their own and so on. But the users themselves do not see or have access to this pyramid of *trickle-up wealth, as it is all managed on the backend of the platform. All they have access to is what the platform is willing to give them.

The influencer owns nothing about their "online business" - not their content, not their account and definitely not their network that they have sold themselves in a million ways to build over the space of years. If the platform wants to follow a new trend, the algorithm directs attention away from the old and spotlights the new and if the platform wants to shut an account down, they do that too. But, banning is relatively rare, however user attention redirection is likely quite common.

The attraction of being an "influencer" doesn't have to come with any actual influence, it is all about making money, both as the creator trying *desperately* to break into the algorithm handouts, but mostly by the platform itself, that takes nearly all gain. The model of "number of followers" only works as a value mechanism for a pay-per-click advertising model, as it doesn't matter about the *quality of the click.* Essentially, it is a lead creation funnel where no one is filtered out.

Now with all its faults and challenges, Hive is fundamentally different than this model, as it encourages building a network of quality follows, not number of follows. And, the attention-seeking pathway that the other platforms use, generally don't attract quality followers, much to the chagrin of the drama-queens and doomsdayers on Hive. What does get attention and is therefore encouraged, is people doing the things they love and are good at, delivering their skills and passions to the audience in some way. Many times, it isn't even about the quality of the content, it can still e interesting, useful and entertaining. 

At various times, there are users who come in and treat Hive like Instagram and while they might get early attention, if they do not evolve their content into being more than a picture or two, interest wanes. If they then look to take the drama path, they will find that other than people's mild and momentary glance at the crashing train, they will not get support - especially not *quality support.* This is the difference of using stake as a mechanism to reward users, as it is *personal. It is the proxy of our attention and we can use this to incentivize and encourage user behavior.

While some influencers on social media may make some decent money, other than what money buys them, they don't seem to be improving in healthy ways, which is why so many of them emotionally struggle and breakdown. It is a grind in the worst possible way, because it is doing something that doesn't necessarily align with who they are as individuals, it is all about attracting the attention of a mass market, who is varied and since they have no skin in the game, both highly flaky and, very critical. The attention economy driven by ad revenue is *fundamentally* unhealthy, no matter how successful it is to making investors into the platforms, obscenely wealthy. There is a reason that most tech people keep their kids off social media.

While Hive is a better model, the centralized platforms won't and *can't* ever implement this kind of thing, as it undermines their value model so heavily, because the users are the owners, creators are investors, investors are the developers and all are consumers. It is an ecosystem that can generate a massive amount of wealth, but this is because it doesn't have to *keep the attention* of advertiser in order to keep the lights on. The top-heavy model of investors just isn't sustainable and, they won't ever want to give up control of who sees what and, who gets paid.

The irony is, that as we progress and this model gets adopted by more, not only does consumer attention turn increasingly toward Hive, but that will also drive consumer wealth. This means that the "qualification" of consumer leads is actually far easier on Hive than on the firehose of follow driven and click media, meaning that advertisers will be interested in being where the money is.* As crypto in general keeps generating wealth, that is going to be *where the value is* for businesses to target. This means that without even trying to take attention away from the centralized platforms, economies and communities like Hive will do so *organically* through decentralized usage, that encourages people to creators and producers of what they are good at, investors to support them and consumers to take ownership of their experience at all levels of the economy.

I have been on Hive for a long time and seen all kinds of users come and go - *and stay.* for the ones who have focused more on their loves and skills, not worrying about the rewards, they have done the best. Those who are after the rewards only, tend to burnout, and the people who seek attention through drama, do the worst. This isn't centralized, mass-follower, pay-per-click, clickbait driven media - it is niche, it is personal, it is about relationship building and improving the way we do what we do, and the way we interact with each other. 

It is better. It is healthier. It is the future. 

Taraz
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@aiovo ·
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every social media have its up and down but on hive we can at least vote for that
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@tarazkp ·
vote up and down :)
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@bhoa ·
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> from buying subscribers to appear popular, to releasing sextapes for notoriety

This baffles me a lot. It even baffles me the more that companies don't realize that leads does not equal conversion.


Well hive tends to show a lot of things and one of those things is rewarding effort.

You can't buy subscribers or followers.

You might be able to bargain but in the long run the community fishes them out and somehow punishes them.


Give will definitely do well in the nearest future at the rate we are going.


Nice post.
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@tarazkp ·
>This baffles me a lot. It even baffles me the more that companies don't realize that leads does not equal conversion.

Over the last year or two, there has been some interesting reports on how so much of the online advertising money is being wasted. 

>You can't buy subscribers or followers.

At least not now :)


>You might be able to bargain but in the long run the community fishes them out and somehow punishes them.

Especially now :)
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@bozz ·
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Lisa Ling is doing a really interesting news series right now on how all of social media is monetized and how conspiracy theories are being passed around and stuff.  The influence that some of these companies have is just astounding.

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@tarazkp ·
I don't know Lisa Ling, but I have bee "harping on" about it for over a decade now. Yet, I have been told by people over and over, *it is harmless, I am not affected...*
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@bozz ·
Sadly, I think there are a lot of people who feel that way...

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@catotune ·
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> While Hive is a better model, the centralized platforms won't and can't ever implement this kind of thing, as it undermines their value model so heavily, because the users are the owners, creators are investors, investors are the developers and all are consumers.

This is exactly what makes Hive a healthier model than Instagram. When you vote on posts using a limited resource, you give them to people with quality content. Even if you might look at a clickbait, low quality post, you won’t upvote it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this important subject!
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@tarazkp ·
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It is an interesting way to incentivize users, as all of the content is still free to view, but whether you add value to it makes a massive difference. 
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The other day someone called me a Veteran and I wasn't sure if I should say thanks or "what the hell did you just call me?!"
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WWII?
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@dandays ·
I need to make these practicals more difficult.
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@empress-eremmy ·
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>At various times, there are users who come in and treat Hive like Instagram and while they might get early attention, if they do not evolve their content into being more than a picture or two, interest wanes.

I know someone who posts a picture a day (mostly motivational or opinion stuff) and continues to thrive here on this platform. He's been here for a really long time too. 

That said, I don't think he's ever powered down and spends a majority of time curating other people. Sometimes trust can be developed beyond the content I guess. I figured people support him because he choose to invest in the community
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@tarazkp ·
>I know someone who posts a picture a day (mostly motivational or opinion stuff) and continues to thrive here on this platform. He's been here for a really long time too.

If he set up his thing early to get support doing so, then that is his thing. Not many will get it like that now though. 

>Sometimes trust can be developed beyond the content I guess.

Definitely, personality matters here :) 
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@ghua ·
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I've used to be on steemit but as you said I burned out because my motivation was wrong. Now I am back on Hive after 4 years and to my huge surprise some people remembered me!

Incredible!

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@tarazkp ·
People are almost as good as blockchains! ;D
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@meesterboom ·
$0.47
It is funny to think that now as 'old timers' we have seen whole epochs of users and types of usage fly past. I don't think I am surprised by any activity now. It has all been done before and it can be amusing to see a user flip out or create some other such drama over a situation which they believe they have stumbled upon. I think the stickiness has now increased as I see more familiar faces and less *older* faces
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@tarazkp ·
There are still a few "serial quitters" about, still looking for that logout button. Can't seem to find it - it is obviously a UI failure.

Familiarity is important here and I like that personality matters.

Perhaps if crypto keeps rising, more of those "older" faces become "lifted" faces :D
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@meesterboom ·
Smoother faces of Crypto, lol!

That logout button, need to put a proposal in to put it front and center! :OD
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@mykos ·
Hey i'm reading these comments and i don't think you all really understand how delusional you sound? Now don't get me wrong if you find a small community of people that are on your wavelength in a niche. Look i got no problem with that. I just think it's delusional to believe such a network will grow vast. That's not going to happen on a model like this.

I hate to break it to you all but most jobs aren't skilled jobs. The value of your post are debatable but it doesn't matter because i can still consume the info free across the internet which is free. Why would i wanna pay you for something so abundant it doesn't make any sense.

the value is in the size of the network.. Now i don't think the problem is that it's people posting a pic or writing some baloney quote. It's all about attention value. if you're a skilled writer that's why they have like magazines you can write for. Why they have news sources etc., or you can create your own.


The real issue is that in entities like facebook or instagram or whatever the dominate ones are. is that there is still a very small group of powerful people who have sole control over the networks. who are these people? it's the board of directors. It's the venture capitalist. it's the guys on wallstreet that can force the network into pretty much any situation they like. So it may be like 10 of these guys over 2.5 billion users. That's the issue.

The issue is also what is it i get from all my contributions? I would think the logical thing would be the network content suppliers would get the value.. Now there argument is they pay for all the servers and electricity and marketing. Which is true you log into these social networks you pay nothing.

on a platform like hive you pay upfront. What's more appealing? Well to a vast amount of people it's going to be payment deferred.

Now if you wanna make serious remarks about what i just stated. I'm open to that. if you going to give me another one of your ignorant one liners. it's best not to say anything at all. i'm not really talking to you anyway. I'm talking to your readers so they aren't delusional as well.

however if you wanna have a serious conversation about this. i can give you some serious data. Now if this is just an emotional rant about the quality of content. Nobody cares about that. if the people cared do you think they'd be on facebook or instagram. no they wouldn't be lol. So you need to accept that lol.

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@ryivhnn ·
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> and as the prize of "workless wealth" is so lucrative, they will do near anything.

That actually sounds like a lot of work o_O

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@tarazkp ·
Yes it does - especially for what the vast majority of them get out of it. I know one young woman who "does well in her opinion on Instagram, because she gets some free products out of it. Definitely not worth the amount of work.
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@sand126 ·
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>At various times, there are users who come in and treat Hive like Instagram and while they might get early attention, if they do not evolve their content into being more than a picture or two, interest wanes. If they then look to take the drama path, they will find that other than people's mild and momentary glance at the crashing train, they will not get support - especially notΒ quality support.Β 

Its true .Majority People nowadays have no patience to generate quality contents because they have lot of new alternatives to make little quick bucks .popularly if i call few names than i will take publishOX ,LBRY tv ,Cos Tv where earning little quick money is easy but if we talk out Hive then obiously we think about quality, consistancy, continuance and freedom . patience, and  Skill make you wealthy one day but atleast in early days should not think about earning huge
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@tarazkp ·
Quick money might be easy, but is it significant? For years, people have told me I am wasting my time here writing for pennies - many of the same complain that I get rewarded for it now. 
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@shortsegments ·
Hello @tarazkp
I agree that Hive turns the Apple cart upside down. It is the opposite in many ways from Facebook or YouTube, Hive is not free, you don’t sign over the rights to your content, and the profit model is also opposite. The content creators are paid by the content consumers, and advertising dollars are nit the core profit motive. There are other significant differences, but those are the core set I believe.
Good Read.

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@videoaddiction ·
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I have seen users who came in and treated HIVE like the other social medias gave up and went away in a short time. There have been many people like this on HIVE in my country. I think those people don't want to spend effort on producing something rather than sharing others' post.

Nowadays, I wonder what would happen if Youtube stopped AD revenue system. Would they go on taking video? For this reason, DTuber wouldn't worry about such things.
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@tarazkp ·
Most people aren't skilled enough to write *and enjoy it,* which is why the games are a good option now.

I had a look at DTube the other day for the first time in years - there is nothing there. How come you don't use 3speak.tv ?
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@videoaddiction ·
I know it, but never checked in detail. Is it on HIVE blockchain? 
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@young-boss-karin ·
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Hive is not conventional, it's different and it's better. 

Sometimes, people don't start looking at the rewards until the rewards become hard to ignore. At this point, it either leads to more work or serious spending. 

The choice strongly depends on an intrinsic money mentality I guess. In the end, I don't think it's possible to enforce what a person does with their rewards here, sadly.

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@tarazkp ·
>At this point, it either leads to more work or serious spending.

Yes - some spend it like it is an endless resource, which it kind of is - but it doesn't mean it is endlessly going to go to an account that keeps spending it like water. Water is valuable too, though some waste it because it comes from the tap.

>In the end, I don't think it's possible to enforce what a person does with their rewards here, sadly.

Nor should it be. However, building a space where people learn about better financial habits goes a long way :)
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@young-boss-karin ·
Yup. But free money comes with its spirit. 

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