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Conditional Responses
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A couple weeks back I wrote a little about the [insurance company CEO being murdered](https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@tarazkp/too-late-canary-k93) in New York, and how it is likely a reaction to a number of factors that I have been writing about for year, with social disconnection and financial hardship of the masses, while those in positions of power benefit from the suffering.

From the linked article.

>For a while now I have been talking about how culture has changed, how we are more disconnected, less community-orientated and for less concerned with the consequences of our actions. I think that this is driven by a number of factors, and one of the main ones is the incentivization of maximizing profits at the expense of wellbeing. Business is increasingly untethered from the results and needs of society, and this means that while corporations make record gains, the average person struggles more and more.

 https://img.inleo.io/DQmSCgdBG3ZFueHg8kcQ4yyv6HZDNfYpiYhrmihwAY9ZZ87/image.png 



And while I am not a big believer in polls, I reckon this one points at some of the conditions I mentioned. It looks at opinions as to whether the actions of the killer were acceptable or not. While the focus has been on how 60% of the youngest demographic found it relatively acceptable, I think what is more interesting is the other demographics. 

https://img.inleo.io/DQmW9ZSi6q9yTN4AETtEPMubBkLcbety9wrdiuvy97zRK3L/image.png 

In the 70+ range, which you'd probably predict to be relatively conservative, 10% found murdering a "criminally innocent" person in the streets of America, acceptable, with another 10% neutral on it. That is 20% of predicted conservative thinkers who found murder *fine.* While the poll numbers were small, it is still pretty amazing how far society has come, and I suspect if this had happened a couple decades ago, most would find it unacceptable. 

But, this is the problem when you put *profit over people,* because the maximization of profits (in the way we have set up business incentives currently) will lead to the minimization of human experience. People will earn less, jobs will be lost, automation will be expanded, social disconnection will increase and drive loneliness and depression, governments will increase taxes to cover shortfalls, and the meaning of life will shift. It will become more survival orientated, more individualistic, identity based. And ultimately, "us versus them" with *them being* anyone who is doing better than the *us.*

> Do you identify as a wealthy person?

People act on incentive and  there is incentive in seeing people suffer who people think deserve it. And, those who deserve it are those who are seen as people who benefit from our own suffering. It is rare that we hear stories about how awesome insurance companies are, how easy the claim experience, and how they tried all they could to maximize their payment to the  claimant. There is a reason why.

>That is not their business model. 

Successful business models are not built on making people's lives better, even if they do at times. They are built on making profit, and that means that if there is the possibility to make profit at the expense of wellbeing, it will be done. Profit comes first. And while this is good for business, ever action has a reaction, and the social reaction of the actions in the last few decades has shifted us to where we are today as a society, one where in a developed, wealthy country, it is acceptable to shoot someone in the street, because they have legally profited from other's misery. It doesn't matter what the reality is, because there is so much division between groups now, and reality *lies* in the eye of the beholder. 

> The way the media want it. 

Because division is good for business, and it is good for governments. Division generates money for corporations in a multitude of ways, and it reduces the chances of opposition for governments in a multitude of ways. There is no cabal driving this, just incentives. Incentives for profits on one side, and the incentive for *people* on the other. The more we reduce the wellbeing of people, the more incentive people have to push back on conditions - to react to actions. 

The poll numbers above indicate one of the reactions to actions, where an increasing amount of people are recognizing *in some way* that the conditions we have are *unacceptable.* They feel bad and know things have to change, but aren't sure what that actually means or how to go about it. When an event happens that lays outside of the normal to someone who they believe is at least partially responsible for their own suffering, or indicative of those who are, it is *natural* for them to see it as positive, because at least it is *change.*

> Until we are suffering enough, we dislike change.

More and more are suffering, and it is showing in many ways. As mentioned, depression is up, so to is addiction rates and substance abuse. Over the last decade, charitable donations have decreased as much as thirty percent too. That sense of duty to community has cratered, and the focus on individual enjoyment has ballooned. *Enjoyment* doesn't actually mean that life is good in this case, more that it is the point of action. People sit miserable on the couch, while *enjoying* streaming programs. They are lonely and intimacy starved, while they *enjoy* swiping left and right for a date. They are looking for relevancy and recognition, while they scream at strangers on the internet.

> We all want something.

And our wants *give us incentive* to act in some way, to respond in some way. And when we aren't getting what we want, but we are seeing some pretty *horrible people* getting what they want by behaving badly, we get further disillusioned. Why care about community, why do the right thing, why put in any effort at all, when that is not the easiest way to get what we want in life? Why not be an asshole, because it seems to work for them - they get what they want. But, seeing the assholes *punished,* that gives a small sense of satisfaction, doesn't it?

Humans are complex, messy, and behave inconsistently. And this is just an individual, a single person. Throw many people together and there are going to be a wide range of challenges that arise, that get in the way of optimization and therefore, *profits.* But, people are also easy to manipulate and influence into behaving in particular ways, even if inconsistent with our own world view. Like the social warriors on the internet who are raving about eating meat, corporate greed, and reduction in social services - from the latest iPhone.

And from the same poll to finish off:

 https://img.inleo.io/DQmdUxEvEcJQBqk6mPrdLDiPQm1uupggH9VqDfr64P2WXKT/image.png 

> Another response to conditions.

32% is low for those younger age groups, but soon, the 30-39 group is going to be in middle management and those 40-49 will be upper management. This makes a difference for business and even though *profit* will still be the guiding force, how those profits are derived, and the financial mechanisms used, are likely to change. And with trillions of dollars in inheritance wealth being transferred during the next couple decades, the entire economy is going to go through a monumental shift. But take note to benefit.

*Ownership is required.*

Taraz
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@bozz ·
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Those numbers are a lot lower than I would have expected for the crypto question.  Probably still higher than they were five to ten years ago.  I think there is a huge different between something being acceptable and people understanding why someone might have done it.  It's definitely not acceptable to just kill someone, but I can understand why he might have done it.  I think that just goes towards my belief that many people don't empathise with other people.  Either that or they can't separate the idea that just because you empathize with someone doesn't mean you agree with the actions they took.
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@tarazkp ·
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>Those numbers are a lot lower than I would have expected for the crypto question. 

I think it is the small sample size.

> I think that just goes towards my belief that many people don't empathise with other people. 

The focus is on "how I feel" now. The idea of we are all in this world together seems to escaped the majority of people and definitely, the controlling minority of people. 
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@bozz ·
That's likely a good point about the sample size being low.
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STOP THE BUILDAWHALESCAM FARM 


STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES ON HIVE 

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STOP THE #Buildawhalescam #buildawhalefarm 

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[A new card game on Hive coming soon, funded by self-voting and farming LOL, we must question if it will benefit Hive](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/a-new-card-game-on-hive-coming-soon-funded-by-self-voting-and-farming-lol-we-must-question-if-it-will-benefit-hive)




[https://hiveblocks.com/@themarkymark](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/https-hiveblocks-com-themarkymark)


WE EXPOSED A SUPER FARM ON HIVE 
[Super farm https://peakd.com/@memesandstuff/wallet spam scam accounts](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/super-farm-https-peakd-com-memesandstuff-wallet-spam-scam-accounts)



https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our




https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect


https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed


https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive


https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

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https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin


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[You cannot triumph when opposed to the truth my friend the Buildawhalefarm on Hive, Blocktrades is a major player, delegating Hive power to one of Hive's most significant issues. Buildawhale](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/you-cannot-triumph-when-opposed-to-the-truth-my-friend-the-buildawhalefarm-on-hive-blocktrades-is-a-major-player-delegating-hive)


[On Hive Buildawhalescam the notion that one can prevail by standing against the truth is a misguided one](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/on-hive-buildawhalescam-the-notion-that-one-can-prevail-by-standing-against-the-truth-is-a-misguided-one)


Burn post just like @Buildawhale



[themarkymark (80)in LeoFinance 18 hours ago You are the abuse on Hive  hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-smp740 LOL  TRANSACTIONS DON'T LIE PEOPLE DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO    Curation reward for BUILDAWHALE COMMENT FARM buildawhale51.108 HP](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/themarkymark-80-in-leofinance-18-hours-ago-you-are-the-abuse-on-hive-hive-blog-hive-167922-themarkymark-re-bpcvoter3-smp740-lol)

STOP THE DOWNVOTE ABUSE ON HIVE 

STOP THE BUILDAWHALE FARM SCAM

[The Buildawhale Farm Scam Chapter 6](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/the-buildawhale-farm-scam-chapter-6)
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@gentleshaid ·
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@gentleshaid "What an interesting piece. It is as exactly as you..."
What an interesting piece. It is as exactly as you've captured it. I guess the same scenario is playing out virtually everywhere in the world. Jobs are getting lost due to automation. I just got laid off from a job I've been doing for 4 years plus because the platform is now going fully AI. It is all about the profit and nothing about the survival of laid-off workers. I guess we will see more targeted killings in the coming years. 
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@tarazkp ·
Sorry to hear about your work. I am in a bit of the same boat as of a few weeks ago. Sucks. And yeah, there is going to be more "pushback" to come. 
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@lecia89 ·
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This days people only thrive for profits at the expense of others
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@tarazkp ·
Maybe it is always (or usually) the case, but does it have to be?
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@lecia89 ·
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@optout ·
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@optout "I know it's a horrible thing, but I think we would..."
I know it's a horrible thing, but I think we would be better off if more elites were getting whacked.  It's a signal that we're living in terrible times, but we don't get out of terrible times by being nice.  So few are living large off the efforts of so many.  

I used to be a hard core free market guy.  And I understand that ultimately the problem with health insurance in America is the government.  The government screwed things up before Obamacare, and Obamacare itself made health insurance unaffordable to all.  

I'm also a United Healthcare customer because that's what my employer offers.  I never used to use health insurance, but this year my son went through a crisis and needed LOTS of services.  United has been terrible every step of the way.  Screw them.  
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@tarazkp ·
>I know it's a horrible thing, but I think we would be better off if more elites were getting whacked.

Sign of the times. It is insane that this is your opinion, isn't it? I don't mean you are insane, but that it has gone this far that it is normal. 

>And I understand that ultimately the problem with health insurance in America is the government. 

Americans seem to hate government healthcare, but the cost of healthcare in Europe is far, far lower. However, it is also harder in Europe to become extremely wealthy. I feel that the system in the US that gets protected, is so that less than 1% can benefit massively. 

I dislike governments and corporations :D But also know, most of us aren't equipped to compete at the top level, so we mostly suffer. 

Gotta be better ways than we have now. 
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@optout ·
@optout "You nailed my opinion. I don't like assassination..."
You nailed my opinion.  I don't like assassination, but at the moment, I think it's the best option we've got.  We've tried voting and for 100 years our government has simply governed against the will of the people.  

As for American healthcare, we've got the worst of both worlds.  We enjoy the worst aspects of a private capitalist medical system, combined with the worst aspects of a government run socialist system.  It's completely broken and everyone knows it but nobody does anything about it because there are a few well connected people who make billions off the current situation.  
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@seattlea ·
$0.33
How would you position for this monumental shift in order to benefit financially?
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@tarazkp ·
It always comes down to ownership. Own property, live rent free and debt free as soon as possible. Multiple income sources that aren't reliant on the mercy of others to stay employed - this includes the mercy of paying social platforms. Invest into convenience - the world is getting so complex, people will keep buying easy for as long as they can afford it, and past that until they are in debt. 
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@tamaralovelace ·
$0.30
Yep, they're going to keep squeezing until a great many rebel/revolt/militarize, whatever you want to call it.  There will come a tipping point.
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@tarazkp ·
$0.05
And then once violence is the norm, they will blame the poor for their ways. 
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@tamaralovelace ·
Yep, that is how they 'keep the reins on' the commoners.  Sounding more and more like hunger games, but for large groups instead of individuals.   
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@tht ·
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Doing things for profit, maximizing profits will cause wounds in society that are difficult to heal. Companies exist to make profits, but priority should be people, human health, and society. For this, if necessary, states should pass laws and be deterrents.
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@tarazkp ·
Governments are incompetent at most things - even the things at the core of their reason to exist. 
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@urrirru ·
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This percentage of people who considered murder acceptable are not people. These are robots. This is a crowd that doesn't think. The same crowd approved of the genocide of Jews in the 1940s. People don't change (in general). People are subject to the same laws as hundreds of years ago.
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@tarazkp ·
>This is a crowd that doesn't think. The same crowd approved of the genocide of Jews in the 1940s.

Isn't it interesting? The same people who also call everyone else Nazis...
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@videoaddiction · (edited)
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RE: Conditional Responses
I agree. I feel that people will mostly be trying to survive and fill their stomach, and life will shift in this way. We might give up some joys of life. The next generations will have a different one than what we have had.
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@tarazkp ·
Do you think the next gen will be better off, or worse than us?
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@videoaddiction ·
I think worse. It seems every aspects of life have been difficult in just 5 years. When no pandemic, life was better.
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