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Contributing Factors
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Last weekend, a fifteen year old girl was raped in killed by an eighteen year old in a small town not far from where I live, and half a kilometer from the house of one of my clients. She was also the same age as a daughter of another client in the same group. As said, I am not fun at parties, and we ended up discussing this in our session today. However, I am not going to go into this particular incident, rather just highlight bits of the discussion on how things have changed in life, and perhaps, why this kind of behavior is increasing. 


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> I am no expert on this.

But that aside, for a couple decades now I have been observing changes in culture that are influencing changes in behaviors in society. This is of course how culture works, but we don't seem to be putting much thought into the repercussions of our actions, and how it is going to affect our living standards. I will mention these more in brief here, and perhaps dive into some of them later.

For instance, one of the topics I have often enough spoken about here is schoolyard bullying and how I think it is actually a good thing to have *some level* of it. The reason is that it allows children in what is a relatively safe environment to learn about a subset of human behavior and develop personal and social strategies to deal with it. However, things have changed since I was a kid, because of the internet and commercialization. We have taught kids from a young age to build digital avatars of themselves for a global audience, and said that this the brand they must protect. 

In the schoolyard, there is a face of a bully, which also means that there is risk in being the bully, and after the school day has ended, there is respite for the victim, as they are able to go home and spend time with family and friends. But, that digital avatar is available every hour of the day, and it is available to a faceless mass, and because it has had so much importance put on it, so much identity it gives a very big target, with very low consequence for the aggressors. The actions of online bullying are of the *same* vein as the masses that look to cancel a person or a group they don't like. 

> What leads to the aggression?

There is lots of talk about toxic masculinity, most of which I disagree with, because masculinity itself *isn't toxic.* However, toxicity is rife in society because we have built a culture around the wants of the individual being the most important, regardless of what damage it might do to others. "Me time" where a mother will go on holidays and take selfies, while their infant is starving to death alone at home over the space of days. 

> People feel they are entitled to whatever they want - *without consequence.*

You'll notice that the example I used above while talking about toxic masculinity was of a woman, not a man. This is because toxicity isn't specific to whether a person was born with a penis or a vagina. Instead, toxicity just takes on different forms in the entire population through exposure and influence to the pathogen that is culture. 

> Everything is on demand.

Like spoiled children who have had every want fulfilled, we live in a world where everything is available, all of the time. It wasn't so long ago that if you wanted to watch your favorite show, you had to be at home at a specific time with the television on, otherwise it was missed. And, if you forgot to buy milk or cigarettes and it was after six in the evening, *too bad,* you had to go without. 

While the "getting what you want" influences levels of entitlement, there is also the other aspect that is overlooked. The lack of disappointment. Disappointment is when expectations aren't met, when things are missed out on, when outcomes don't align with desires. When we don't have to go without, we don't have to live with disappointment, which means we firstly don't experience what the depth of discomfort might be, and secondly don't build strategies to deal with it, or learn how to be resilient and live with it. 

> We have wants, and we want it now.

And, even if our wants are outliers in society, we live in a world where "like minds" are able to gather and connect, share desires, influencing each other and pushing the group further into the extremes. People who might not have been radicalized if surrounded by a different crowd of people, become so when they are part of a flock of the same strange bird. And again this is a faceless mass, with very little chance of their being consequences. It is through these mechanisms that there has been an explosion in child sexual abuse, and the material created and shared. 

> Fantasy becomes reality.

And again, I think it is important to note the faceless nature of the internet, coupled with the productization of ourselves upon it, because everyone becomes a disposable commodity. Now matter how narrow the niche, the niche has been filled, in an environment where people have a decreasing sense of social responsibility, have been conditioned and desensitized to all types of violence, see others as tools to fulfil needs, are increasingly disconnected from community, and are feeling disenfranchised - and an automated algorithm to keep feeding more of what we want.  

> A lack of humanity. 

Anyone can be and is conditioned, but the average conditions are going to affect people differently. While most men for instance would likely not engage in sexual violence, a growing proportion will. The reason is that they are exposing themselves to, and being influenced by the digital culture they have chosen, and this is a place that they can always access, and is not bound by proximity. People are able to lock themselves in with a group of the most heinous types, with no balancing audience, no community, no perspective. 

> And then build identity.

This drive to differentiate ourselves based on individual traits is probably partially driven by the commercialization of the internet too, as productization benefits from differentiation in the marketplace. We are incentivized to be different, to segment, to appeal to a narrow, but strongly supportive group, which ultimately is going to get the polarized response of the strongly opposed. 

>And the *commercial* media loves it. 

Because polarization sells advertising space. And as the entire internet is commercialized, the algorithms are made to drive profits, not the health of society. Everything has become a sport, where there is uncompromising love for the home team, and uncompromising despise for any opposition. Politics has become a sport also, where people will say "I am a republican or I am a democrat", without acknowledging that politics should be about *policies.* It isn't about which team wins, it is about creating the best outcomes for society.

> But society is dead. 

And while I have mentioned only a few here, it is only the tip of the iceberg. It is a death by a thousand cuts, where one individual slice alone isn't enough to warrant concern, but they add up and compound against each other. Any single individual is exposed to hundreds of these cuts, and some of them are going to hit a nerve or support or opposition, driving the algorithms into doubling-down and serving up more. When everyone is exposed to a whole range of pathogens, there are going to be many reactions. And, lower the quality of the immune system, and the severity of the reaction will increase.

These and the many more things on the list have weakened us as individuals in many ways, where we are less resilient, less able to deal with discomfort, and less able to control our emotional responses. Yet, they have also strengthened our feelings of entitlement, our sense that our personal desire fulfilment is paramount, and we shouldn't pay consequences for actions. Couple this with a rapidly degrading society, with family units no longer stable places on average, and a diminished sense of responsibility in an environment where everyone is disposable, and the outcomes are inevitable. 

>A growing percentage are going to radicalize in their niche.

We have built a society that doesn't promote wellness, it incentivizes instant gratification. We should be surprised at the increase of violence in the world, of suicide, of victimization, of victimhood, of crime, and of extremism in all its forms, because they are the fruits of the trees we have planted.  

>It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
_Jiddu Krishnamurti

*Culture has shifted. 
We have adjusted.*

The best of us and the worst of us - we are all filled with contributing factors. 


Taraz
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@aussieninja ·
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> There is lots of talk about toxic masculinity, most of which I disagree with, because masculinity itself isn't toxic.

Haha, this is exactly how words work.  No one is saying masculinity is toxic, people are saying toxic masculinity is toxic. 

> "Me time" where a mother will go on holidays and take selfies, while their infant is starving to death alone at home over the space of days.

I'm sure everyone is aware this is an extreme exception... it's not at all common and this exception shows that more mental health services are needed. 

> While most men for instance would likely not engage in sexual violence, a growing proportion will. The reason is that they are exposing themselves to, and being influenced by the digital culture they have chosen, and this is a place that they can always access, and is not bound by proximity. People are able to lock themselves in with a group of the most heinous types, with no balancing audience, no community, no perspective.

This is the biggest danger that I see.  With the rise of the Andrew Tate's and the manosphere, an absolute ton of grifters are selling courses that essentially treat dating/romance as an entitlement, something that can be gamed with tips and tricks instead of just trying to become a person that someone else would be attracted to and enjoy spending time with.  I really wish young men had some clear examples of healthy masculinity. 
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@tarazkp ·
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>Haha, this is exactly how words work. No one is saying masculinity is toxic, people are saying toxic masculinity is toxic.

This is how the public discourse is shifting though, isn't it? Look at the discussions in Australia for calls to stop men gathering in groups. Like what? 

>I'm sure everyone is aware this is an extreme exception... it's not at all common and this exception shows that more mental health services are needed.

Of course it is not common. Mental health services will never be enough in a society that is designed to create mentally ill people. 

And there are multiple "Tates" for every niche. No matter the kink, there is a supply. 

> I really wish young men had some clear examples of healthy masculinity.

They do. They are found in the local community, not online. The problem is that we have destroyed community and family, in favor of masses of strangers we will never meet in person.
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@aussieninja · (edited)
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Yeah, as far as I understand the discussions in Australia for calls to stop men gathering in groups is not a legal or policy discussion, but more of a 'protest conversation' to highlight the uptick in violence/harassment of women by men in groups.  I don't believe anyone is seriously proposing it as an actual solution (it'd be impossible to police obviously), but the intention is to raise awareness on a hugely significant and growing issue.

I'd say it isn't "we" that destroyed community, but capitalism.  People are living week to week, month to month just to survive, and so aren't able to create or maintain community events/activities unless there is a profit motive... and if there is, then that adds to the cost of living.  The rich and corporations aren't paying their fair share of taxes, and so cities and towns aren't able to maintain/provide services to build community. 

It's incredibly hard for young people to hang out and learn social skills outside of school and their respective homes... there just isn't a lot of places for young people to go that doesn't cost money. 

I literally don't know where I could go to hang out with my community in my local area... so I'm not sure where I personally could find examples of healthy masculinity here.

I do think the manosphere is particularly dangerous though, in order to continually sell products to young men, it has to provide them with "solutions" that sound like they could work but never will (else they lose their customer base). They teach their customers to treat women/girls terribly specifically to profit.  I'd be very surprised if the incident you mentioned was not somehow linked with the mansophere. 
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@bisolamih ·
There is something that happened in Nigeria two years ago. They all were high school boys and it was a boarding school. They practiced cultism in the school and they asked one particular boy to come join them. He declined and they kept on disturbing and at the end of the day, the forced him to drink a poisonous oil which made him lose his life.
Itโ€™s really sad to see kids doing all of these. Iโ€™m even scared of having a child cos I donโ€™t want any negative influence around my child. The world isnโ€™t getting better. Weโ€™re getting too much of this and it is sad 
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@bozz ·
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My wife and I were just having a discussion the other day about how kids don't have coping skills in general these days.  When minor things happen, they don't know how to handle it, so what hope do they have when the major things happen?  The fact is they can't, so they blame, or over react, or simply melt down because that is what they have always done.
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@tarazkp ·
Exactly. We aren't giving them an enriched environment where they can learn the range of skills needed to thrive. We have tried to engineer it all out of convenience and misplaced security. 
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@cryptoandcoffee ·
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Shocking when you hear about what is happening in every country and I do fear for what is to come if there is no change. This what we are seeing now is not healthy and was not normal even though I live in one of the most crime ridden countries in the world mainly due to a lack of no policing and a soft justice system. I have been looking at countries to move to mainly because I do worry for my family's safety and I cannot be the body guard all the time.
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@tarazkp ·
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Perhaps in SA there is no longer a chance to police a way out of the violence?
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@cryptoandcoffee ·
A sad state of affairs when private security companies have 5 x the security officers compared to the police force. We rely on our own security now and outside of those areas is the riskier part. Hopefully with the new government (coalition) things will improve.
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@heruvim1978 ·
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The world is rapidly changing and not for the better!
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@tarazkp ·
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For every positive, there seems to be 10 negatives and the negatives are far more appealing to the masses. 
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@heruvim1978 ·
The world is rapidly changing and not for the better!
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@janitzearratia ·
We all have, the same right to a life free of violence and not only the right to be raped, killed, but to live as we want to be and feel without being harmed both men and women. I raise my voice as a woman and professional against violence; no matter if it happens anywhere in the world Sr Taraz.
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@outwars ·
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I think toxic masculinity is the society's standards and expectations imposed on/by men. Some examples are, "Men should be strong, not just physically but also mentally and emotionally". "Men don't cry no matter what happens, and mental illness isn't a real thing; PTSD, Depression, etc, are all just in your mind, and you just got to man up". "Women are looked down upon when they have a large body count, men are envied by their peers when they've slept around a lot". There are a lot more, but these are the things that people are trying to change.
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@gamer00 · (edited)
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There's nothing toxic about being strong. That's a misnomer. Strength is a good thing, and all men and women should strive for it, be it physical, mental or emotional. Strength is a marker of health after all, in all of these aspects.

I would do away with the term "toxic masculinity" because it is being used underhanded in these discussions. Counter to what it is claimed to purport, it seems to only create confusion and alienation. Reasonable people do not like the term, as it does not accurately convey what is being said.
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@outwars ·
Did you just read the first two sentences of my comment? Read the rest.
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@tarazkp ·
>Men don't cry no matter what happens

There has been some interesting literature coming out recently that one of the problems is that men have been told to show their emotions (they put it more eloquently), rather than manage their emotions. And that one of the problems in society is that there are not enough male role models who demonstrate healthy masculinity. The feminine side is taken care of, but there isn't the balance, and there are still genetic factors to consider as to what a body needs to thrive.  
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@outwars ·
Demonstrating healthy masculinity is one of the targets of those wanting to eliminate toxic masculinity.
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@rafzat ·
This is really tough and crazy cos Iโ€™m wondering how an eighteen year old child could take another personโ€™s life cos heโ€™s too young for that and he even raped her. I feel no one is a kid anymore. The kids we have these days are really smart and we are what we subscribe to. If a child watches a video of how war happens, it is likely for the child to want to try such and it continues like that. Itโ€™s sad though 
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@theringmaster ·
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This is so sad man. It's scary how much society has changed. We're all about instant gratification now, and it feels like people care less about consequences. We've really gotta do better.
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I remember we could go to school alone even at smaller age than that. Now, I can't imagine it ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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@tarazkp ·
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It is still possible here, but I am not sure for how long.
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> And again this is a faceless mass, with very little chance of there being consequences. It is through these mechanisms that there has been an explosion in child sexual abuse, and the material created and shared.

The world is getting more and more unsafe for growing minds when even grown minds can't handle what is being dished. One can only wonder how bad it can get and how the minds of the little ones can be protected from /prepared for the many negatives.
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@tarazkp ·
we tiptoe around broken minds. 
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