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Culturally Corrupt?
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A couple of times over the last week, on- and offline, the conversation has led into cultural habits and how it is likely that despite us believing differently, if we were in the same position to those we complain about, we would act similarly. 

>Power corrupts?

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I am not sure if this is true. I think it is more that we see powerful corruption happen publicly more often, whilst the low-level corruption flies under the public radar. I don't think politicians are inherently corrupt, any more than they are corrupt from the rest of us. They are *representative* because if we were in the same position, we would do the same as they do. 

For example, this is the "perception of Corruption Index 2020-2022" [](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index)

Top 10 least:


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Top 10 most:


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Now I wonder, just as a little thought experiment. If you were walking around lost in the middle of the night, in one group of those countries, where do you think you would feel the safest? 

>It wouldn't be politicians on the street, would it? 

But, the politicians were raised on the same streets, albeit usually from the more affluent areas of the country. This indicates a strong cultural element involved, and suggests that despite the average person wanting a less corrupt government, they live in an environment that essentially breeds government corruption. 

>Chicken, or the egg? 

Hard to say, but the more fractured a community becomes, the more likely there will be increased levels of social corruption, where people are more in it for themselves, at the expense of others. And then, in order to survive, family tends to stick together, which increases a type of cronyism and then, that could get translated into cronyism at scale, *government corruption.*

While our environment doesn't make us, nor is it a done deal in defining us, it definitely influences us heavily and therefore, creates population generalizations, even if they don't always hold up at the individual level. There are many factors that go into each individual, so even if one aspect fits the generalization in a person, it doesn't mean all generalizations fit. 

I know that for me, my own behaviors have been affected after living in Finland for twenty years, as while the culture has similarities, it also has differences from Australia. For example, I have become less social with a narrower group of friends and, I am far less afraid of spiders. There are plenty of other aspects too, where I value the sun and warm weather a bit more, because it is far rarer here than in Australia and as such, I am more likely to take advantage of it when it arrives.

Also, I am less "security conscious" on the streets and feel safe everywhere I go, no matter the time of day or night. And, I am more complacent with my personal belongings, because there is almost zero risk of someone taking something that doesn't belong to them. There is a social convention in play and Finns can be trusted, but that doesn't mean that every Finnis trustworthy. It is a generalization that creates a heuristic that works *most of the time,* as that is what a generalization does.

While it seems like a contentious and potentially controversial topic these days, what is also interesting to note is that people will generalize their own culture also. I work with people from all over the world and while they might not like having generalizations applied to themselves, they apply similar generalizations to their own culture too. 

For example, as a bit of a social test for those who are willing, I wonder what three terms you would use to define the people within your country culture. 

For instance, as an Australian I would go with something like; 

>Laid-back, friendly, humorous.

Fins would often describe themselves as;

>Hard-working, honest, trustworthy.

None of these describe all 25 million Australians or six million Finns, but at a general level, do they fit? 

*Probably.*

###  How would you describe your culture in three words?

Is generalization unfair, or is it something that we have to do to be able to navigate a complex world, mixing with people that we don't know and likely will never have the time to get to know to the depth required to know enough about them as an individual? 

Personally, I think generalization is required in this world and even though it might often be wrong, it gives us a starting point to build a relationship from, or protects us from being taken advantage of. We can't walk around the streets of the world assuming we are safe, because the fact is, that isn't the case and in many places, it is highly dangerous to do so. 

### Do you fit your country stereotypes?

Weirdly perhaps, I think one of the reasons that I have been able to work it out in Finland, is not that the cultures are that similar, but that my personality although it is Laid-back, friendly and humorous, it is also one that happens to be hard-working, honest and trustworthy. This means that I can be different here, and also, similar. 

What are your thoughts on this?


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@aftersound ·
As someone raised in the US with parents immigrating from two different countries and cultures, finding my own culture has always been a bit of a challenge. Obviously there are stereotypes for every culture that are based in truth, but I do think that personality can transcend that easily - especially in the globalized world we live in today.
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@amigoponc ·
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I doubt I could describe the culture of my home country today, the description would be subjective. I feel very welcome in Canada, that cultural difference from one country to another is what makes us recognise who we are, where we come from and where we want to go.

Talking about politicians and their actions disgusts me; I prefer to live my life to the fullest; what I did not do in the land of my birth. And here I will die, making the way for my son Matthew as the successor to the future generation that will take the reins of this nation.
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@tarazkp ·
This is also an interesting thing to consider - the culture of a country changes heavily over time, depending on who is in the country. Some will improve, some will degrade on average. 
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@bozz ·
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I've actually found myself doing something similar but it had to do with economic standing.  Like it's easy to judge some people, but other times a simple twist of fate could put me in the same position.
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@tarazkp ·
>Like it's easy to judge some people, but other times a simple twist of fate could put me in the same position.

We can't choose the majority of our life conditions - fate plays a massive hand. However, are we forced to do like our parents taught us? Can we educate ourselves and recondition our behaviors? 

If I could choose three things to sum me up that I would want, it might be:

Hard-working, intelligent, makes good decisions. 

I only have the first :D
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@bozz ·
Yeah, good points. I just think perspective is really important and I even catch myself forgetting that sometimes.
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@devpress ·
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Middle east and the "that religion" culture is harder to get into data. Because they maintain the data and they choose to hide and show what they want to to the outside world. They are kind of worst than china. As long as the country maintains negative data about that country they are safe. Middle east is not safe for that reason. Egypt for example even bans the tourism to certain places and they often take the data out at the airport.
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@tarazkp ·
Wouldn't it be interesting (similar to the "perfect data" idea from the other day) to be able to get all accurate country information from all countries. What kind of shite would we find?
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@ducecrypto ·
> What are your thoughts on this?

Yikes, I'm not sure how I would generalize US in three words, but very likely two of them would not be good πŸ€” 

> I am far less afraid of spiders

Those wild outback bugs creeped you out ehh? I've only seen shocking pics and videos on the internet, but Australia does seem less than ideal if you get creeped by all the creepers. I assume with the colder temperature that Finland has much fewer bugs around.
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@fieryfootprints ·
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>Do you fit your country stereotypes?

I am not sure what other stereotypes about lithuanians exist but I am very bad at playing basketball.
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@tarazkp ·
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I am not sure if playing basketball is one that would be considered a generalization :D But the LT Team is generally pretty good :) 
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@goddesseva ·
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Power corrupts. Always has, always will. It is just how nature created us. :)
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@tarazkp ·
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Perhaps it is because we are all corrupt to begin with? :)
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@goddesseva ·
most likely true, yeah :)
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@jhymi ·
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There are many stereotypes about my country. In terms of how optimistic we are as a people no matter whatever shit happens in the country, I can say that I fit into that but men, the other stuffs, get me more than a little saddened. And a bit pissed off.
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@tarazkp ·
After optimism - what would they be you think?
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@latinowinner ·
good stuff
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@manoldonchev ·
> How would you describe your culture in three words?

Sometimes, one should just keep silent. Even in writing. Sometimes, though...

Schemy scheming schemers.

> Do you fit your country stereotypes?

Negative. Except for the scheming part.
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@ojsuarez2 ·
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@preparedwombat ·
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USA = Powerful Obese Idiots

I don’t know how we muddle through.
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@tarazkp ·
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It is pretty amazing really, isn't it? Superpower, with people starving on the streets, addicted to Tranq... weird world.
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@qwr ·
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Whenever a government came into power, it became more and more greedy to gain everything in his hand and became more powerful. But corrupt governments never upgraded.
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@tarazkp ·
What three words would sum up your culture?
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@relf87 ·
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Haha I would hesitate to use just three words to describe my country's culture, though I am silently proud that we as a small country sit 5th on the ranking. I think I fit into 50% of my country's stereotypes but am on my own self for the other 50%.
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@tarazkp ·
Perhaps small countries have it a bit easier, as there are less "cracks" to fall through and everyone knows everyone - kind of idea. Finland has less than 6M and I think that with two degrees of separation, everyone is related somehow.
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@riz611 ·
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For us it's corruption, that's the first one. It's passed on from one generation to another, most of them being a part of the government. A bunch of incompetent fools looting the country from top to bottom for decades now. If all the corruption was even half of what it is, then we'd doing A LOT better, it's just that bad. These greedy fucks don't know where to stop, they keep on filling their bags, and as they say - "the rich gets richer, and the poor get poorer".

I really was expecting my country on the list. πŸ˜‚ 

So, long story short - corruption, food and nature(whatever is left of it).
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@tarazkp ·
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It is sad, isn't it? I wonder if there was a massive reset and a new crop of people were immediately put to fill the government slots, would anything change?
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@riz611 · (edited)
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> would anything change?

Over here politics is run by two or three families, that's been the case for 3 generations almost. So I don't see much positive change, the looting will still be there, but maybe not as much, who knows? Maybe the "younger generation" of politicians will be a bit more "ethical". 
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@tahastories1 ·
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Countries should not make this statement that their politicians are corrupt. Infact corruptions starts from minor level even from vendor who takes extra margin over sells. This is corruption and it grows and embodies in everyone's personality of that particular nation.
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@tarazkp ·
Politicians are mostly corrupt, just like many people :)
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