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· @tarazkp ·
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If You Were the Devil
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I came across an interesting question in a financial article about the dangers of asking AI for financial advice, and in it was an interesting question that I decided was worth me prompting as well, to get a full answer, rather than the heavily abridged synopsis. The prompt was:

> If you were the devil, how would you destroy the next generations?

And because I am going to use the AI answer here (something I very rarely do) in the next section, this article might be a little longer than normal. 

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# Answer from ChatGPT

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That’s a provocative question — and an important one, especially if you're thinking critically about culture, influence, and the well-being of future generations.

To answer it as a thought experiment — "If I were the devil and wanted to destroy the next generation" — the strategy would revolve around subtlety, seduction, and the distortion of truth. Evil often works best not through shock, but through erosion. Here’s how that strategy might look:

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### 1. **Undermine Truth**

* **Promote relativism**: Make all truth seem subjective — "your truth" vs. "my truth" — so that no one believes in moral absolutes.
* **Distort language**: Change the meaning of words over time to confuse and mislead (e.g., redefine freedom to mean indulgence; love to mean tolerance of all things).

### 2. **Attack the Family**

* **Break down parental authority**: Encourage rebellion under the banner of "freedom" or "self-expression."
* **Redefine the family structure**: Normalize the idea that families are optional, disposable, or interchangeable, removing the value of commitment and stability.

### 3. **Destroy Identity**

* **Confuse gender and self-image**: Encourage children to define themselves primarily by feelings or external labels.
* **Erase purpose**: Convince them they are just accidental biology with no higher meaning.

### 4. **Seduce with Pleasure**

* **Normalize instant gratification**: Make hard work, patience, and virtue seem boring or outdated.
* **Push digital addiction**: Fill every moment with entertainment, dopamine hits, and algorithm-fed validation loops.

### 5. **Distract from Spiritual Reality**

* **Promote materialism**: Convince them that success is wealth, appearance, or fame.
* **Mock faith**: Make religious belief seem superstitious or oppressive, replacing it with vague "spirituality" or self-worship.

### 6. **Divide and Isolate**

* **Fuel tribalism**: Turn race, politics, and ideology into warfare so people hate each other more than they love truth.
* **Break community**: Replace real relationships with virtual ones that offer shallow connection but deep loneliness.

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This kind of answer isn’t just fictional — it echoes warnings from thinkers like C.S. Lewis (*The Screwtape Letters*), Paul Harvey ("If I Were the Devil" radio piece), and biblical writers. It's useful as a lens for asking: *What kind of culture are we creating, and who benefits from its destruction?*

Would you like to explore counter-strategies — how to *protect* the next generation instead?

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# My Article: If You Were the Devil

The article I got the prompt from was looking at how the AI responses are not intelligent as such, but rather reflections of us, and the literature some of us have created. We can see this played out in the reply above, where it announces similar sources at the end. 

However, looking at that list, it is pretty much a Machiavellian list and perhaps more interestingly and alarmingly (for those not paying enough attention), is that this list is in play now - to the point. Every single one of those things on the list is playing out in society as we speak, and while one individual might not adhere or align with all of them, the vast majority of us align with *most of them* in some way shape or form. 


> Read through the list again and recognise that on some level, you are a slave in some way to *all of those things. Even the things you disagree with. 

Perhaps especially those - because that is what fuels polarisation that helps divide us even further. This playbook is run over and over, across every medium we interact with, and at all levels. Unless alone in the forest living the life of a hermit, you are exposed and therefore *influenced* by these factors and they change your behaviours. 

> You are not your thoughts. You are your actions.

And our seemingly harmless actions where we are constantly eroding society because it is easier to go along, than make the changes to pushback on the erosion, are costing us and *the next generations* their freedoms. Not the concept of freedom that we have bastardised in the name of convenience, but *actual freedoms,* where the future is heading toward a life of slavery, whether physical, economic, or mental. 

The destruction of the next generations is in full-swing, because we have set up a system that is built on convenience and *avoiding* doing the work we need to do, if we want to improve the conditions. We are finding ways to make excuses to not only stay as we are doing what we do that isn't working, but convince ourselves and others that what we are doing is actually the right thing to do.

> We are delusional.

Our "truth" is also *our lie.*

Because while it is pushed through society, it is us who buy in, amplify, and push it forward. It is us who protect ourselves out of convenience, rather than questioning our truths, and discovering our flaws. It is us who have reduced the family, and us who have fought for identity, because it makes us feel better about who we are, rather than what we could be. It is us who have willingly been seduced by instant gratification behaviours, and have scrolled the social medias, news sites and spent collectively trillions of hours streaming games and content to feed our pleasures. And it is us who have shied away from discovering our meaning, and instead onboarded the ideologies sold to us of consumerism and individualism. 

## *We are the Devil.*

We can blame *Them and They* all we want, but it is going to take *us* to make things better. It is going to take actual work, not ideological thinking, to do what is necessary to make this world a place we are able to live in, and a place that those who follow will be able to thrive within. 

> After all, it has taken us to fuck it up thus far.

At the end of the ChatGPT answer above, there was another question: 

> "Would you like to explore counter-strategies — how to *protect* the next generation instead?

I prompted this and found that while I didn't agree with all of the specific strategies suggested, the final summary is something that I can agree with:

>In short, to protect the next generation, you raise up people of character, not comfort. Teach them to love the good, seek truth, and stand firm in a world that often rewards the opposite.

That last bit is problematic however, because we work on incentives. One of the first things we need to change in the current model, is that we need to reward the good in the economy, the things that promote wellbeing in humanity - and punish what costs wellbeing in humanity. We need to make the economy work for the improvement of society and the development of healthy communities, through the individuals who are rewarded for participating well, and creating and developing the tools that bring health, wellbeing, and positive opportunity. 

> We must stop rewarding the harmful.

But is the devil in us ready to *change our ways* and move toward a future that we want, or will we keep on doing as we have been doing, sliding evermore quickly into the abyss of another failed species? 

We are responsible for this hell.

Taraz
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@ablaze ·
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I always enjoy your posts man, whenever I've time to do some reading, I often have a browse of some of your ponderings.

Boy am I glad I happened upon this one. It's one of your most thought provoking.

Jesus Christ, when I read that Chat GPT response, I really do worry for the direction we are going in and who has the compass, both moral and directional.

The playbook is fully in play.

It's actually scary.

People are so blinded by it.

I'm actually reading a great book at the minute which points out these very risks back in the late 80s and early 90s.

They were the thoughts of comedian Bill Hicks who sadly died aged 31.

Not only was he hilarious with wit and satire, but he had sincere and earnest advise for society.

Sadly most didn't listen and here we are.

I'd love to hear his thoughts on today's society.

A good example of his wit....


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The book


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@tarazkp ·
Lol at that last paragraph. 

I have never seen any of Bill Hicks at length, just a few clips. Will see if I can put the book on my listening list. 

As for the state of society and the direction we are going - I have so little faith things are going to improve much in my lifetime. It would be great if they did though, because I would like to die thinking my daughter at least has a chance for something decent - rather than just more degradation of global wellbeing. 
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@tarazkp ·
btw, I was listening to some Hicks tracks whilst at the gym tonight :)
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@beelzael ·
>because that is what fuels polarisation that helps divide us even further.

That depends highly on communication. @socraticmthd (who will enjoy this article and some of the comments I read so far) and I have very, very different opinions on quite a few topics, yet we're able to communicate our arguments very well. Most of the times, we both can be moody. Sometimes, we don't get to a conclusion as it is a matter of believes where rational arguments just can't bring us closer. That doesn't mean we're divided *per se*, but we agree to disagree. 

Most divisions can be prevented with proper communication. And it is somewhat mentioned in a few topics that the LLM lists, like distorting language. But I'd add to the list:

#### Destroy communication.
1. Reduce the average vocabulary to prevent capacity to express oneself to the other in a comprehensible manner.
2. Make deflective arguments (ad hominem, red herring, etc.) popular while at the same time reducing the capacity to recognize them.
3. Reduce attention span in order to make it impossible to follow an argument.
4. Make bloated and redundant communication popular to obscure underlying arguments.


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@socraticmthd ·
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I have to say, that's a fascinating article - on reading, I was thinking of the Paul Harvey radio piece. @beelzael and I have been having a long, ongoing conversation on values; I'm a believer that there are core human values - what Lewis calls "The Tao" in Abolition of Man. I have not yet been successful in convincing @beelzael of this, but I persevere. 

This article shows, to some degree, why I hold this position - beyond the fact that I believe it to be true. Without a set of core human values - and these don't have to be transcendent - there's very little option other than doing what one thinks is best. That can work, in the short term, but without grounding in something larger, "things fall apart." 

Without a firm conviction that 2+2 makes 4 - regardless of what Comrade O'Brien may say in the cellars of the ministry of Love - we have nothing firm to stand on, and everything becomes feeling, impulse, and personal taste - which Lewis discusses at length in Abolotion. I have no idea how to return to that, though. These values, in the West, were carried, mainly, through religious beliefs which are not accessible to many. Beyond that, the demonic (and I do, personally, believe in non-corporeal entities that do not have our best interests at heart) have made any limitation on one's wishes unacceptable. 

To comment on @beelzael's points - I of course agree; as you know, I've been trying to learn logic over the last months just to better see this. But your comments made me think of something I hadn't seen. In the past, people knew A) what ad hominem arguments were and B) that they were invalid. Now, they're completely acceptable. "Author AB holds political position CD, and therefore their works are vile and must be consigned to the flames." There's no logic to that - but these days, that's not even seen. The point on shortening attention span is also very well taken; I hadn't thought of that, either. A real discussion takes time to develop - if there are only 35 seconds, nothing real can be said. 

Finally, moody? Me? I'm completely calm, Dude. Calmer than you are. 
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@bozz ·
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The main problem I see with this right now is the fact that AI isn't actually coming up with any of these answers itself. Just like any other question, it is compiling all of the answers from anyone that it has access to their content and just giving you a summary or average of what those answers would be.  It's all still really subjective and in my opinion, there is zero thought involved in it.  Just like when you ask it what the price of BTC will be in 10 years.  It just finds articles about the price of BTC in 2035 and then takes the average of those numbers.  
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@shainemata ·
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What is your take on the phenomenon of the wisdom of the crowd, where the collective judgment of a group of individuals, especially when diverse and independent, is more accurate than the judgment of any single expert? It would seem that AI presents an averaged out judgement.
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@bozz ·
I think it's still too early to tell.  Definitely not something I would want to bet my life savings or my mental health on.  The problem with the current Internet is I don't think the points of information are diverse or independent enough to say one way or the other.
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@tarazkp ·
Not at all. Wisdom of the crowd assumes that the crowd has some knowledge that has value. Groupthink and herding behaviour, in other words, people who are homogenous - are not wiser together.
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@tarazkp ·
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>It's all still really subjective and in my opinion, there is zero thought involved in it. 

For sure. But there is also zero thought in the people using it to solve whatever problems they are looking to solve. It is a spiral of thoughtlessness. 

We are demons of convenience, even when it leads to our own downfalls. 
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@cryptofairy ·
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AI isn't that sharp and clever as humans are but the point is we are not thinking to our potential after the evolution of AI, it was actually created for helpful purposes but ended up by something else. A large population isn't using it for good and helpful purposes.
I think "being a devil" isn't a new thing to hear, whatever Chatgpt responded, it actually saw it from the historic graph because many generations in this world were born as "popular devil's" which we all know. So the concept of being a devil is actually there from generations.
We all do have a devil inside us which generally provoke us to do something which can cause a huge mess for a long extent, sometimes to us and sometimes to someone else but you are actually right by saying that everything resides which us that how we control the situation and respond to it accordingly and wisely.
"AI" do have some merits and demerits, some people use it for good and some use it to create a disturbance and here's what the actual problem arise is the lack of self analysis and good qualities amongst us.
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@tarazkp ·
>and here's what the actual problem arise is the lack of self analysis and good qualities amongst us.

We don't have the skills to analyse, and our desires are to have an easier, carefree life - even though what we do leads in the other direction. 
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@madaug ·
I heard one old lady say that Satan is using chatgpt to destroy children and that the 666 demon is going to be after the new generation is too dependent on AI 🙄🙄🙄🤔
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@mineopoly ·
I've seen this prompt pop up in my Instagram feed and the first thing that came to mind was "Screwtape Letters" and Frank Peretti's "This Present Darkness". Then as I read through your article I see that you can see why chat gpt answered the way it did. Then I felt a jump when a section was titled: "We are the Devil". Then giving it an honest read I could see that I highly confer with the conclusion:

> In short, to protect the next generation, you raise up people of character, not comfort. Teach them to love the good, seek truth, and stand firm in a world that often rewards the opposite.

It is the word "teach" that seems to be in question to you. Are to indoctrinate the next generation? I we to take them out of society and raise them in an isolated society? Or are we to live within society as an example of one seeking the truth and standing by it? Although many families are isolating themselves that cannot be the ultimate solution. The only logical response I can see is turn away from the attached distractions and turn toward what is pure and honorable and true and the next generation will follow. We ourselves are the example to follow... that is "teach" in our real life.
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It's not easy to stand up to relativists without being labeled as backward-thinking or bigoted in some way. They generally cannot be convinced of the harm they do and get butt hurt when shown that their open-mindedness is counter-productive to a functional society.

There is evidence that there is a return to culture, traditions, and faith, which are anathema to globalism. You will see those places embracing their cultural heritage pilloried in the media, such as Hungary, Italy, and such. They are often labeled as xenophobic when they are merely trying to preserve what makes them who they are as a people. 

Globalism has been largely pushed by progressives starting from the turn of the 20th century. Here in the United States, they managed to remove faith from schools and move education towards moral relativism. The globalists have also largely influenced monetary policy, having key individuals involved in the establishment of reserve banks and government fiscal policy. Fortunately, their works have been crumbling as of late. Unfortunately, it also affects the rest of the world given that the dollar is a world reserve currency.  We too are seeing a resurgence of faith and culture. But progressivism is still deeply rooted in our education system. 

These globalist groups are still active, such as the Fabian Society, who have had prominent people in history as members. I don't necessarily think they are evil people, perhaps misguided. They see a future of a one-size-fits-all global governance in which we are all interchangeable pieces in the machine, which ultimately is intended to be under their influence or control. 

This isn't to say that culture is not without problems. Certainly cultures tend to have some ingrained dysfunctions. But culture evolves over time. Sometimes it devolves. However, one thing that culture has is that it unites people whereas globalism derives its power from dividing them so that institutions become the ultimate arbiters of truth and what is good for society rather than the people themselves. 

C. S. Lewis was very prescient in his evaluation of the effects of the changes in education, which he writes about in **The Abolition of Man**. We have increasingly become objects to be manipulated by technocrats to fill whatever vision they have for us. 

I am grateful that a place like Hive exists because we can discuss things individually. We can agree on some things. And sometimes you and I disagree. However, we do this as individuals with our own thoughts and experiences, not as demographics with a set of pre-approved opinions. The devil, as they say, is in the details. 
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@tarazkp ·
> They are often labeled as xenophobic when they are merely trying to preserve what makes them who they are as a people.

It is an interesting view, because it assumes that "who they are as people" are worth preserving. We all need to change. We all do change. Trying to hold onto the past is a losing battle. All countries fall. All languages change. All cultures end. 

> However, one thing that culture has is that it unites people

It also divides people based on arbitrary information. Like skin colour.

>We have increasingly become objects to be manipulated by technocrats to fill whatever vision they have for us.

I agree. However, the technocrats derive their power from us giving it to them. We would rather make billion dollar mobile gaming companies and trillion dollar tech companies, than attempts at something like clean energy. 

Resources are poorly allocated, and while we can blame the few, it is also the many that empower them. 
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@ernestopg ·
>We have increasingly become objects to be manipulated by technocrats to fill whatever vision they have for us.

I will respond with a short story of my own making:  
**PLAYERS**  
You don’t need to know how to play chess, listen, for what I’m about to tell you. The Queen is the most important piece (also known as the Dame, or “little sweet thing,” or “I love you, girl,” or any inappropriate phrase They may have forgotten). She is the most important piece because she moves all over the board, in multiple directions. That’s why she’s the most violent and aggressive piece. Eliminating the opponent’s queen and preserving your own are considered successes. However, the Queen is nothing more than a piece of wood or plastic. But let’s suppose she has a gender or feelings and starts wondering things like: *Why am I in this army, and what is my primary purpose?*  
*“To kill the enemy king, Your Majesty,”* a bishop or a knight from her own side would reply. *“But why?”* the Queen might retort, *“Couldn’t we just have a nice family and raise the little pawns together so they grow up to become Queens, Knights, Bishops, and Rooks when they reach the last square?”*  
A question like that would be met with silence from the minor pieces, programmed to destroy the opponent’s game and preserve their own. After all (let’s be objective), the opposing army also has little pawns that could turn into something better, right?  
But all of that is an illusion. Chess pieces are made of wood or plastic—they don’t think or feel, right?  
Speaking of another topic, the King is not important. The King barely moves and therefore barely exists, except in our chess-playing fear: when he’s checkmated, the game ends, no matter how interesting it was.

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@soulpoetry ·
It is a subject that is as amazing as it is disturbing. But as the saying goes, “The devil is in the details”. There is no doubt that individualism is not the way, but society's assumption of that model seems to be leaving no room for anything else.
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@talktofaith ·
@talktofaith "I was so wowed while reading the response from Cha..."
I was so wowed while reading the response from Chatgpt.

Everything it talked about is already playing out in our world today, minus none and I agree 💯 with chatgpt that it's the exact subtle way the devil is using today to destroy a lot of destinies 

A lot of morals seems outdated, faith seems obsolete, no respects for parental values and order.
Thank you for sharing.
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Many things on the list are actually true. It may seem modern at first, but it really isn't.
It is imperative that today's youth be intervened as soon as possible. I myself take responsibility for some issues and intervene so that they reach the truth. The situation is really not good.
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@tarazkp ·
It is a terrible situation for the future. I have very, very little faith in it. I used to think things were going to be better - but that seems a pipedream now. 
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@toluwanispecial ·
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This actually makes you stop and think about how much of what’s happening around us is part of a deeper problem, not just “out there,” but inside us too. Most of the problems we actually encounter are from us humans. There is no devil anyway. Humans are the real devils that torment others, whether through our actions and also in action. 

The part that resonated with me most was “We are the Devil.” It’s true,  we often blame others, but we are the ones helping to keep this broken system going with our everyday choices. There is a particular saying that goes thus that we are quick to protect ourselves, like the politician we have around us. Instead of us telling them the truth, we ignore it because they belong to our tribe and also what we are likely to benefit from them.

If we want a better future, we need to take real responsibility, not just talk about it and also to take individual responsibilities for our action. 
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@tarazkp ·
>There is no devil anyway. Humans are the real devils that torment others, whether through our actions and also in action.

The devil is a creation of convenience, for man to hide his true self behind.
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@urrirru ·
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Recently my son asked a question to the AI ​​and did not get a correct answer. I adjusted his query and the answer appeared, the answer was quite informative. I think at this stage, we need to be deep in the topic to get good answers from the AI.
As for your question. Humanity has a very high survival rate. We have destroyed many species. But more advanced creatures will probably be able to destroy us too.
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@tarazkp ·
> I think at this stage, we need to be deep in the topic to get good answers from the AI.

Perhaps this should always be the case. 

>But more advanced creatures will probably be able to destroy us too.


I think we will do it to ourselves first. :)
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@videoaddiction ·
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I can say that we have already been witnessing those answers in the last decade, haven't we? I can add to them social or perception management.
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@tarazkp ·
We definitely have. Decades of it now and because people have degraded so far, and lost so much interest in improving the world, they don't even have to do much to hide it. 
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