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Inverted Extroversion
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There are often topics that come up in the [Reflections community](https://peakd.com/c/hive-126152/created) that I find interesting. And as most of you know, "interesting" is a word I use often, because there are so many things that I find worth spending a little thought power on, even if they might seem insignificant to others. I am an observer either by nature or nurture, but that seems to be my lot in life, so I have accepted it from a young age. But I am more of a practical observer, which means I am looking for things that matter in the way we interact with each other, the impacts we make, and what it might mean in the future, at the micro or macro level. To be a practical observer, I think one has to be curious enough to explore.

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The article that caught my attention a little while ago was titled with a question ["Can an extrovert transform an introvert?"](https://peakd.com/hive-126152/@steemflow/can-an-extrovert-transform-an-introvert-jsx) by @steemflow, where he explores his interactions with a friend. In it, he ponders how an extrovert might behave and the influence it may have on an introvert, like himself.

Firstly, while it is not a popular opinion, I don't think there are actually introverts and extroverts per se, rather that it is on a spectrum that is influenced by circumstance. Some people are very introverted in one arena, but change the game and they can switch to being extroverted - and vice verso. There are likely extremes at both end that don't move much along the gradient, but I haven't met too many of the very extreme in my life.

As said, I am an observer, which often puts me in the "introvert" category, but those that know me in real life, will often peg me as an extrovert, because I like to talk to people and can be very social. However, this isn't actually my natural position and instead goes back to that word I use so often, *interesting.* Because I am curious and looking for practical implications, there is only so much that can be learned passively, whether from books or from observation. At some point, even if it is just to speed up the process, interaction is required and that interaction has to take the form that facilitates a natural conversation, otherwise, nothing practical is going to be learned.

When I  consider this, I look back and believe that I have actively improved my communication and interpersonal skills in order to *appear* what people would think is extroverted. I reckon I can even identify that this happened during university, where I was surrounded by and forced to interact with a lot of strangers. Prior to this, I was the kid who would get stressed for days if I was going to have to deliver a book report in front of the class. I would stand up there with my notes, shaking to the point the paper rustled, like in a movie.

Even now, I don't like talking about myself, but I do so on Hive because this is a place where I reflect on my observations and experience - It isn't a place where I am giving a book report. And yes, it is still uncomfortable, but it is also what I do in the physical world, because it is about *interaction* with others - the conversation. 

> Funny side note: 500 years ago, "conversation" was a synonym for sexual intercourse, so criminal conversation was the term used to describe *adultery.* 

The prefix "con" means together, with. And when it comes to positive and healthy interaction, there is a trade. @steemflow noted that he ends up somewhat tuning out while the other keeps talking, but that might be less indicative of an extrovert, and more telling of a narcissist. Because, while actively talking is one part of the skill, the other side of the coin is active listening. If the conversation is always one sided, neither are playing their part well. 

The observation side of things made me a pretty decent ear for many people, but what I realised is that in order to really both add value and get value, I would have to learn more of the other side of the coin too, so that I could actively participate. An example where I have failed to do this, is in Finnish - because while I can often speak and get my point across, my listening skills aren't always high enough to understand the replies, even if they are spoken at the same level I speak. 

> Speaking and Listening are two different skills.

And, introverts aren't automatically good listeners just because they are quiet either. In my experience at least, many introverts are not curious enough in anything outside of their world in order to be interested enough in other people to listen. If it isn't in their interest area, they tune it out and perhaps do like @steemflow with the "yes and no" answers. 

I am not smart enough to be book smart, so I have had to adapt to being interactively smart, with "smart" being not that bright, but also not that dull. Still, what it means is that I have learned to be a potential social butterfly and go from group to group, regardless of background or topic. Not because I know about so much, but because I am curious and open enough to engage people, and ask questions - and of course, to take interest in listening to the replies in order to dig deeper. But to do this at depth, it also requires a trade of my own insight and experience, so being able to talk with people and not just listen, is also necessary. 

I think there is more nuance to "introvert and extrovert" than those terms are given by most. They are almost catch phrases that have lost their meaning, as people have started to identify with a narrow aspect of it that they like, but avoiding the bits that they don't. Like an introvert can be "introspective" in a good way, but that can also cause them to ignore the needs of others - yet most introverts won't want to admit to being so *insensitive.* Similarly, someone who identifies as an extrovert might not want to acknowledge that they may need the validation of others - that they might just be attention seekers. Or worse, narcissists. 

But as said, it is interesting to consider, because I think that regardless of how people identify, there is the reality of their behaviours. If how we behave isn't supporting our values, we might want to take a step back and consider if we need to learn something else to support us, like what is on the other side of the coin. 

And yes, I do think an extrovert can influence an introvert and vice versa, but I am not sure if it is transformative. However, perhaps through interaction and experience, each can trade and learn from the other to shore up weaknesses and build on strengths, to each be better together.

Taraz
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@bozz ·
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Oh my word, I am totally an introvert.  

> And, introverts aren't automatically good listeners just because they are quiet either. In my experience at least, many introverts are not curious enough in anything outside of their world in order to be interested enough in other people to listen. If it isn't in their interest area, they tune it out and perhaps do like @steemflow with the "yes and no" answers.

This paragraph really spoke to me the most because it is totally me.  It's not that I want to be that way either, I just struggle to actually care a lot of the time.  That sounds so callous to write, but it's just the truth.  I think the other side to that is introverts struggle so much to actually communicate in those situations that they are sometimes thinking about their next move to do the whole socializing thing right that they totally miss what was said.  

Maybe a 50/50 split of the two things.  I think it helps that my wife is a bit more outgoing than I am. It helps balance things out and she encourages me to leave my comfort zone.
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@tarazkp ·
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>It's not that I want to be that way either, I just struggle to actually care a lot of the time. 

You are not alone in this. I don't think it is intentional, or perhaps it is that the care is in a different way, or at a different time. 

>I think it helps that my wife is a bit more outgoing than I am. It helps balance things out and she encourages me to leave my comfort zone.

I reckon a good relationship is complementary, where each person brings something different to the table. If each were the same, what is the value of the relationship? I think there is value in the "diversity" of personality, thought process, and all the way down to the DNA level. It creates conflicts in some way, but that is a growth area - as long as the difference isn't in core values. 
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@bozz ·
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Yes, that is a good way to put it.  I am actually a quite caring person, but a lot of the mundane stuff people actually care about seems pointless to me.  Yes, that is a good point as well. We definitely butt heads from time to time, but for the most part we compliment each other.  Though she probably compliments me more than I compliment her :)
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@bravetofu ·
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One thing I'll add here is that there's a deep misconception about what it means to be an introvert. An introvert is someone who gets their energy from inside, and frequently from solitude, while an extrovert gets their energy from outside, and from being with others. It doesn't necessarily mean an introvert is socially awkward. I'm an example of an introvert who is very good in social settings (parties, networking, whatever). I do very well and have taught myself to be able to operate in those settings, but they tire me out. Eventually I need to be alone to gather my energy. 

So I'm not sure whether an extrovert can "teach" an introvert to be more extroverted or vice versa, as I think where one draws energy is just a part of their nature. However I KNOW that introverts can learn to operate in a way that resembles extroverts.
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@tarazkp ·
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I agree with this.

What an extrovert can do is be a role model of sorts for someone who is introverted and hasn't developed their social skills, to template what might be required. Ultimately, it isn't transforming them directly, but rather through building a desire to change themselves. If they are introverted, they might spend the time internally to work out what is required to interact with others :)

>I do very well and have taught myself to be able to operate in those settings, but they tire me out. Eventually I need to be alone to gather my energy.

Do you ever get energy from social situations? For instance, I don't like large groups of random people, but I do get energy from small groups with good conversation. I like the depth of conversation, because it gives me content to reflect on when I am alone, that is outside of my own direct experience. 
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@bravetofu ·
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Yeah, I also get energy from small groups with good conversation, but only with certain people. I'm rather selective about the group.

Conversely, I think extroverted people can learn from introverted people - specifically, they can learn to appreciate the times where they're alone, rather than thinking of those times as "wasted" because they're not being spent with others (as I've heard from some people).
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@chinito ·
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Very true! like I consider myself an introvert.. quiet and reserved most of the time, but when put in a room with a bunch of people., like at a hive meetup, I turn into an extrovert, 👊😎🤙
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@tarazkp ·
Are there many meetups there?
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@chinito ·
I actually only been to one, before when I was in philippines. I am hoping there are some more.. I think there's one about once a year, at christmas time or so.. 

I am also trying to build up my own discord server where I am slowly adding hivers from philippines. When I get there later this month.. that will be awesome! then maybe I dan get a meetup happening this year! ☺️🤞
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@elias22 ·
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I think Balance seems to be the key that to be able to interact when required, but also to know when to be silent and listen deeply.
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@tarazkp ·
often we listen in order to respond, rather than listening to hear what is actually being said. 
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@latinowinner ·
sensual
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@tarazkp ·
Sensual?
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@steemflow ·
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I completelly agree, I find myself influenced with his talking nature, and somewhere started reseerch8ng onnhis shared words...most of the time, people always boast about themselves in that situatiom I prefer to stay quite...and my reply limits to yes no or may be...bla bla...I think listening boating is necessary but at the same time, the situation must be dealt cleverly, as we do jot want to end up spoiling the understanding....his talking nature genuinely made a huge social connection...not sure how long that sustain.
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@tarazkp ·
If you enjoy spending time with them, spend it. If not, limit it to the times you do enjoy their company :)
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@tamaralovelace ·
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It seems like everyone identifies with one thing  or another these days.  Introvert/extrovert, male/female, rich/poor/ stupid/smart or even donkey/zebra.   Where does it all end? and what ever happened to 'well rounded people'.     People don't just \*live\* anymore, we have to hang a label around our neck and the necks of others.



Say I have a friend and set her up on a blind date.  I describe the man as a bit of an introvert, but is a good guy.    Does the introvert label carry no weight or does the girl automatically have strike one against the dude?   I guess if she was also an introvert, they would be a good match.



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@tarazkp ·
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>and what ever happened to 'well rounded people'. 

This is a question I have too! Maybe it is that so many professions (and therefore schooling) specialise into a role, which is part of a production line - even office workers. So, "jack of all trades" which is highly valuable on a farm, has largely disappeared?

>I guess if she was also an introvert, they would be a good match.

Or perhaps not - opposites attract, as long as they aren't opposites in the things that actually matter to a person. 
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@tamaralovelace ·
\> opposites attract, as long as they aren't opposites in the things that actually matter to a person.



I have not had good luck with this lol







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@tht ·
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Introverts are not very good listeners. They are exposed to listening a lot so they often ignore it. Some people are not around much in order not to be a good listener.

I was an introvert when I was young, but as I grew up I realized that this was a problem and overcame it.
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@tarazkp ·
It is good to know when to talk and when to shut up. I am not good at knowing when to be quiet! :D
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@uyoho ·
I would have thought that an introvert would have listened more since he is quiet and calm. But you analyzed it so clear that I have to totally accept your view.
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@videoaddiction ·
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I think it is the same with me. I like to talk about myself on HIVE as there are many new person to me, with whom I might find some common points in anything in life ;)
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@tarazkp ·
I think this is a good way to do it - share experience, make the trade :)
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@yhanyx87 ·
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I think whoever we are what matters most is we are happy. We have different choices same thing with what we valued. We grow with the people around us and the people whom we want to spend time with.
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@tarazkp ·
I think the "who we spend time with" is often overlooked these days, because so much time is spent with no one in particular on the internet. 
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