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· @tarazkp ·
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Leg to Stand On
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Normally, when a contractor says they will be somewhere on a certain day at a certain time, *they are late.* However, due to a change in a job for ours, he called in the morning and asked if it was okay to start our patio area. It was meant to be a beach day, but since I am the labourer who carries heavy things while the contractor does the real work, instead of laying on the beach by the lake, I have been carrying pavers and shovelling gravel n the sticky heat. 

> The girls went to the beach.

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As the thunder and lightning is right overhead now (no rain yet at least), the contractor took the opportunity to head home for lunch and will come back later. This gives me the chance to write a little and let the sweat slowly dry. Most Finnish homes are not air-conditioned, and our home is like most Finnish homes. When it gets warm outside for a few days, it gets warm and uncomfortable inside - but it really is only for a few days of the year, so it isn't worth worrying too much about. 

> Sleeping isn't as pleasant though.

I have never built or been part of building a patio before, so it is going to be interesting to see how they do it here. It is a little different than in many other places I guess, since the ground has to be prepared to ensure it doesn't move in the extreme changes in temperature and warp the decking. Underneath this square is insulating foam to stop it from freezing and moving, but it doesn't extend all the way, as we had originally planned a smaller deck. I *think* it will be okay, but time will tell. 

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It is because of the prep work that we are only doing half the patio this year, and hopefully next year we will do the rest, which will be a landing at the bottom of the front door stairs, and a pathway that extends and connects up to the main area. The additional challenge with the path is that the snow falls off the roof and hits around that area, so we are going to have to make sure there is a fair amount of reinforcement, since the roof is large, high - and the snow can be incredibly heavy. We also don't have the "snow breaker" bars on this roof to separate it before it hits the ground. All new homes have them, but ours is so old and, we need a new roof at some point.

> Sounds cheap.


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The wood we have bought is a treated wood that should withstand the elements for some time. Normally, they just use the treated wood in green or brown, but it has to be oiled every year. We have instead gone with a different one called "kivipuu" which translates as stone wood, but it isn't about the hardness, though I think it is a slightly harder wood. It has been treated with something that turns it a greyish colour over time and looks like stone. But the best part is, it doesn't need to be oiled (supposedly), just brushed with a stiff broom occasionally.

> It will look a bit weird for a season or two when we do the next instalment.

While it is hard work today for me, we will take a few days off and the tradie will work alone until Thursday, and then I will join in again. Hopefully, a lot of it is done by then, but I actually don't mind this kind of mindless work. It gives me time to not think about anything of consequence, or important things if I choose. And, it has the satisfaction of seeing what is accomplished as the work gets done. Even shovelling the gravel was somewhat enjoyable. 

But now, the contractor is back from lunch and it is time for the grunt (me) to get back to work, and lift heavy things.  



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@beelzael ·
My brother just finished the pier (?) at the house I lived in the last 4 years of high school. It's his now, it was my grandma's. 17 years ago, I did somewhat the same work, it was my summer project. Working in the hot sun above the lake, cutting & oiling the wood, renewing it plan by plan - it was so much fun. 

It didn't look as good as this time around, as I did not have enough experience yet. But it hold for 11 years, while the last renovation only lasted 6. Also, I used less wood. He made it airtight, I left some room for toes to get hurt ๐Ÿ˜…

How does the cold in winter affect the wood? Doesn't it get distorted by the extreme changes in temperature between winter and summer?


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@bilalber ·
Sounds like a sweaty trade-off, no beach, but at least you're building something solid with your own hands! ๐Ÿ’ช
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@bozz ·
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We usually just dig down below the frost line and then that takes care of the issues with the extreme temperatures.  It might be a lot deeper there than it is here though.  Where I live it's about 3.5 feet. 
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@tarazkp ·
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This was the other option. But a little secret here is... There is an empty oil tank underneath this space. We will likely have to dig a few in for the next section, if we can't get it all insulated.  
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@bozz ·
Ah okay, yeah, that definitely makes a difference!
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@chinito ·
I guess he wanted to start early, so he can finish early and enjoy the day! ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿค™
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@daoza ·
The area seems nice and cozy! There is so much green around, and it is not crowded.
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@dbooster ·
Decks are always nice. I look forward to seeing it when it's finished. 

What are the temperature swings there from winter to summer? 
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@ebonymama ·
Yeah good to go for best instead of giving yourself or others work of oiling the woods the one you have chosen is best. Please do have rest is good and ok for you 
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@goldgrifin007 ·
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Dear @tarazkp !
I remember you have been remodeling your house for the past two years. When will your house be finished?๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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@tarazkp ·
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It will never be finished. It has been five years now :)
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@goldgrifin007 ·
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@holoz0r ·
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Do termites live in Finland? I get nervous seeing timber directly in the soil.
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@tarazkp ·
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The wood will be lifted onto plastic levellers once we have the gravel and concrete blocks close enough to level. And them, I am not sure about termites after that - but can they live in -25? I guess ants survive it in the soil. The treated wood should be fine for a fair amount of time though. Most houses in Finland are wooden too. 
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@holoz0r ·
I guess it is not as much of a problem as it is "down under".

Our houses have timber skeletons, mainly pine. Pine is a pretty.... uhh, soft timber. 
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@iamlovelykate ·
Iโ€™ve never done work like that, but sometimes I help my family with small things at home and itโ€™s really tiring but satisfying too. I kinda relate to the part where you said it feels good to do โ€˜mindlessโ€™ work โ€” sometimes I find doing chores or yard work helps clear my mind too, especially when thereโ€™s a lot going on.
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@joeagee ·
I need that kind of wood in my environment. My place is prone to termites...
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@seattlea ·
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Here in Seattle wood is considered not as good for the decks as composite material. It is also cheaper to go with wood. The cheapest option they offer here is Cedar deck ๐Ÿ˜€
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@tarazkp ·
Yeah, the composites are good too. I have heard there are some shrinkage problems with some of them at least though, depending on the weather. Wood doesn't contract and expand as much. The best wood here is a Siberian one, but it is "unavailable" at the moment due to well.. you know. There are others that come from the alps in Europe and in Canada too, but they aren't quite as hard as the Siberian one. This should be decent enough though. 
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@solominer ·
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That is good you are helping out the contractor move stuff helping him, hopefully he gives you a discount.. or at least his hours will be less so should cost less.

When I had my central wood boiler installed I did all the trenching, saved a few thousand dollars. So its always nice being able to do part of the work yourself.

Hope your paver project comes together how you want it.
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@tarazkp ·
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> hopefully he gives you a discount..

Partly paying in cash ;) The biggest savings are his hours, since he would have got another guy to help with the framing at least. He is a decent chap this one - we recommend him out to others all the time too. 

>When I had my central wood boiler installed I did all the trenching, saved a few thousand dollars. So its always nice being able to do part of the work yourself.

If you can do it yourself (and have the time), it is definitely worth the saving to do what you can. Sure, some people are willing and able to pay anyway, but there is also some satisfaction to at least do part of the job. And you seem more capable than most :)
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@solominer ·
Nice, yeah that makes sense.

Indeed, you can appreciate the projects more when you have a part in building them.

Hah yeah, having a skidsteer and trenching attachment really helped.
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@toluwanispecial ·
This actually makes me smile; especially the part where the contractor showed up early for once, just when you had plans to relax!

 It always seems to happen that way, doesnโ€™t it? Iโ€™ve never built a patio either, but I can imagine itโ€™s the kind of job that feels tough in the moment but really satisfying once you start seeing progress. The โ€œstone woodโ€ sounds intriguing; low maintenance is definitely a plus!   I don't know the equivalent of the stone words in the part of the world, though. I hope the second half goes smoothly next year, and the weather doesnโ€™t throw too many surprises your way. 

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@urrirru ·
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I hope it will be a very beautiful recreation area and I will see your post with photos. 

Personally, I am happy with the mown lawn, two sun loungers and a few chairs by the barbecue in my garden. I hope my guests are too :)
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@tarazkp ·
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I think it will be nice, at least for what it is in this section. One side will remain open for the continuing pieces next year though :)

And I agree with you - I am happy with a lot less too. This is just a benefit and hopefully, it will add some value to the home if needs be. 
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