> We expect everyone else to act well - while we justify why we do not have to ourselves.

The do as I say not as I do crowd. People don't see when they are caught up in the hype which is what so many of the social movements are. They end up closing their eyes and ears to any thought that runs contrary to what they think they believe. They listen to the supposed social change leaders with out seeing what they are doing. 

Out of all the riots, and protest and destruction from the riots and protest in America only one or two places the people are protesting about have been damaged. They would rather burn and loot Local businesses than burn and loot city property because they know that the city court house, the local police department the local governmental seat has nothing worthwhile looting. So they burn and loot and steal from their friends and neighbors, from the places they need to shop and do business with. and then wonder why other shop owners sell and move away.

To the best of my knowledge not one single protest organizer has been charged or arrested for failure to maintain control of their protesters. The city mayors the ones that last year and the year before were praising and rewarding their local police chief and police force with all sorts of accolades, approving new police contracts, and new police methods and tactics are now demonizing those they put in place.

"Do as I say, not as I do". a wonderful start to any revolution.

Thank you. It's a thin line between running away from being responsible or accountable and learning when it's actually time to walk away. After a while, you realize that you can only educate or give your opinions on a matter, the rest is really up to them.

Fair DOES exist.  I swear on my mother's grave.  It's in April here, and it has all kinds of cows and pigs and rabbits and chickens-and so much really nasty and oh so good food it should be a controlled substance.

There is no revolution, only power changing hands.

Wealth redistribution is always bound to fail.  It's a social movement that has nothing for me, it just won't work, but it takes a lot of people and energy away from things that might work.  It's a fake, a screen, allowed and even encouraged by the upper class to prevent other things slipping the bounds of command and control.

Here in this country there IS systemic racism.  It's deep rooted and long standing.  I feel that right here, right now, things ARE starting to change.  People's attitudes are changing, their defenses aren't near as effective as they once were and at least some are starting to understand.  It last happened with Gay Marriage.  People finally figured out that it was none of their business what other people did in their bedrooms, and in surprisingly short order became the law of the land.

Not that destruction and mayhem are ever excusable.  Under no circumstances.  But for every thousand that march against racism, one hundred thousand march in their hearts.  It goes on and on but the truth be told, it has gone on and on for centuries.  Is it enough?  I don't know.  But if it isn't, it's a lot closer and the NEXT time might be enough.  It is, by definition, a process.

I may have gone off on a bit of a tangent there.  You've written another thoughtful and thought provoking piece and I thank you for it.  Even if I didn't follow the indicated path.

Making excuses is the best way to avoid looking in yourself for the cause of problems. I think people make excuses, because this is the easiest way to solve the problem. Finding the source of problems in yourself is a hundred times more difficult.

I think this quote fits your post very well and it sums up a lot of what you said

"Circumstances don’t make the man, they only reveal him to himself.”
– Epictetus

I don't believe in excuses. I believe in what people choose to do. Every time.

I agree with everything in this post and have a million things to say about it.  Unfortunately i live unwillingly in the middle of exactly what youre talking about. the toxicity of the ubiquitous pathology has completely drained me.  I literally dont have the energy anymore to make a comment on this.  I just stay silent now knowing like @zekepicklrman said the "futility" of it all.  

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Hi @tarezkp,

I already had some time, without reading some of your always interesting posts. In this particular, your perspective, based on linking social movements with emotional control, economic literacy, and property, is very respectable and obeys the logic of integrating the rational with the emotional.

How irrationally people act just to satisfy their own interests. You are right, we live in a deranged world, where 1% of the population accounts for 82% of the wealth currently produced on the planet, and where 10% live on less than $ 2. Surely, what they discuss for the survival of their way of life will be in the middle of protecting or fighting for the remaining 18%. The comic and tragic thing is that in the end, they all converge on the same destination.

I think the essential thing is to try to live with purpose, the rest will come in addition.

>I find the lack of willingness to take responsibility for emotional reaction childish. I find it insane that people spend their time supporting social movements without first finding some semblance of emotional balance in their own lives - as if desperation is a good position to act from for a greater good. It is frustrating to watch millions of people focus their energy on the surface conditions of a problem, not at the root.

That is also an easy way for a movement to be goaded into scoring an own goal or for it to just do it on its own. The BLM movement is a prime example. Police violence targeted against black people in America is a serious problem. But burning down entire districts and looting stores isn't going to do anything but lose a great deal of sympathy for the movement.

> I find it insane that people spend their time supporting social movements without first finding some semblance of emotional balance in their own lives - as if desperation is a good position to act from for a greater good.


Skip to 14:35 - 19:00
https://youtu.be/10FvgPsUbHU?t=870

Situations like you described are partly why studied Stoicism. Emotional control can be a tough one, even more so when politics are involved. 

I agree with you on every word and every punctuation mark, @tarazkp. Good that you didn't spend gunpowder on vulture. One knows when words fall on infertile ground. Justifying any act of banditry or aggression by the simple fact of survival puts us in the corner of "irrational beings", instinctive, acting without thinking. With this thesis, he kills years of human evolution. Can you imagine that by hunger everyone can steal or that by self defense we can attack or kill? Then why justice? This is the type of stance that many governments use to manipulate, to create resentments, to win followers and to win elections. Regrettable. Greetings.

Given that "common wisdom" seems to be separating everything (which is why we need to have things like work/life balance) I'm not really surprised that people generally struggle to connect things, especially if their logic is insisting that those things can't possibly be related in any way, shape or form.

<sub>Only tangentially related, split personality disorder seems to be called disassociative identity disorder these days</sub>

The only thing on my mind right now is this quote below:

*''A wise man once said nothing.''*


I read it a while ago but I still see the truth in it.

>I find it insane that people spend their time supporting social movements without first finding some semblance of emotional balance in their own lives

You know, I have this same issue with fighting for social movements. Taking it up and making it seem like one of my personal problems. A lot of individuals tend to take up these fights and when you stand out by not speaking on them they say you're 'selfish'. 
Thanks for this, it has been one of my silent battles with friends that I've refused to let bother me much.