<div class="text-justify"> In the last few years, a guy I know has gone through a divorce and has started seeing someone new. Both have kids, but my acquaintance's child is a young adult now and will soon move out of home permanently. The new partner has a couple pre-teen children. At this stage in the relationship, nothing is certain. > This is a common scenario.  Both people own their own property (with mortgages) that they have bought out from their exes, my acquaintance has a largish house, the other a decent sized row house. The one with the row house would like to move and is considering an apartment in the city. But they have also discussed moving in together, but what if it doesn't work? >What would you do? It is interesting in Finland, because here people who are in relatively new relationships actually move in together quite soon, even though even married couples usually keep their finances quite separate. Perhaps it is actually because of the separate finances that people are more comfortable to move in together, because then there is shared risk, but also there is the possibility to walk away without too much trouble. Because of this, I think if I was in their shoes, I would move in together, even though the relationship is relatively new. It is not that there is the ability to walk away, but there is also the financial benefit of sharing costs. More than that, it might be a bit of a windfall financially if they do become a long-term couple, because one could still buy an apartment in the city and rent it out, giving them a place to fall back on if things go south, and an income stream that would pay any mortgage, but also provide some extra to offset the mortgage of the shared place. If things go well, then as a couple, they can have a nice additional income stream that covers itself and also pool resources in the shared place to cover the mortgage and have it paid off a little faster. This puts some additional strain on a young relationship, but is that a bad thing? Maybe, a strong relationship requires that strain, but it has to be the right kind of pressure. This kind of situation would give them the "in it together" setup, whilst still having the provision for either to walk away. Essentially, they would be investing into each other's lives from the get-go, rather than building an investment together as their relationship progresses and maybe, that is a good thing. It is interesting, because there are lots of dynamics in play, where for instance, one would be moving into the home of another, and that has its own challenges. For example, my wife moved into my apartment that I had bought with my ex. And even though we had been split up for a couple years already, my wife (girlfriend at the time) felt like a guest. So, what we ended up doing was renovating a little, changing the floor surface and painting, making decisions together, to make the place "ours" - instead of *mine.* From a practical sense, nothing changed, but humans are more more comfortable with emotional decision-making rather than their rational thoughts, even when we think we are being analytical. So what ends up happening is that we will make decisions that will increase our costs, or make our lives harder, just because we want to feel or avoid feeling something that we should just be able to accept and move on with. > Too soon? Who decides when something is "too soon" to have happen in a relationship, other than the people in the relationship themselves? But even then, most of us are going to be influenced by other factors, like what others think of us - our children, our friends, our exes. If we were considering the same scenarios from a business perspective, we likely would make more rational decisions, because we are looking to make gains in some area. But in our personal lives, we tend to make decisions to protect ourselves, rather than expose ourselves to emotional risk. > Emotional risk. And it is that, isn't it? Financially, it would be better to move in together, by the second apartment as an investment and roll the dice on the relationship from the start, rather than building from the relationship first. And perhaps, doing it this way would lead to a stronger relationship, because both would be going through it simultaneously, shared experience, growing together. Alternatively, perhaps if waiting to be completely "in love" first will mean that once the stress of moving in together and navigating the new dynamics is applied, there is more chance of falling out, and growing apart. Thankfully, I am not in their shoes, but I have been there and done that to a lesser degree, because there were no children involved of any age at that time. However, I think that perhaps we should expose ourselves to more emotional risk than we do, because unlike monetary risk, we can keep learning how to take on more, without ever needing to go into debt. > It is a rare skill it seems in today's society. But, as said, this scenario is pretty common these days, and there are many more pressures in the modern world. As a result, people keep looking for ways to minimize their emotional risk, yet what seems to be happening is that more people are disconnecting from each other. Rather than putting the relationships first, they find ways to avoid getting hurt under the guise of "taking it slow" instead. It used to be, > *For better or worse, til death do us part.* But to be parted, two things need to be together first. But if people are always expecting the worst and therefore have one foot out and backups, was the connection ever really given the chance to form? Taraz [ Gen1: Hive ] </div>
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Tricky one, I think I'd personally be pretty slow to move in with anyone too quickly if my marriage had broken down. My ability to trust would take a long time to mend I suspect, but then again life is short and who knows what lurks around the corner.
author | ablaze |
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>My ability to trust would take a long time to mend I suspect It might depend on what kind of breakup it was. If you were the one ending it because things just weren't working out, would it change the trust factor?
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Yes, that's a very good point actually. I think the trust factor would be a function of the type of break up.
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Iβm sorry that this is not really related but this topic makes me remember a question I have a friend who has a boyfriend and theyβve been living together for years. Right now, they are expecting their third child but not legally married What do you think may end that or why do you feel they are not married yet despite having two kids and expecting the third one?
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I have a couple of childhood friends whose parent passed away and I was really shocked at how quickly both of them seemed to move on and suddenly they were married to someone new. I'm not sure how you just do that after fifty years of marriage, but who am I to judge. Of course divorce is a different matter all together, but my point is, it's amazing the hearts ability to move on when the situation is right.
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>it's amazing the hearts ability to move on when the situation is right When the situation is right, I'd the important part. Sometimes pieces just fall into place, despite the odds.
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Celebrated 4 years back in July! I basically moved in on Day 1 on a trial basis and locked us in soon after. We've been in the same 3bd apt in Brooklyn ever since and have found bunches of new roommates for the main bedroom over the years. We shared a single room for the first 6 months when she had some Irish gals in the other two rooms. Then we snagged the 2nd room for a home office to work out of, so we each rent a room in the unit. We meet our new roommate for the new lease on Saturday. A new adventure begins in the heart of Bushwick, Brooklyn!
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The last statement...*For better or for worse* does it really apply?.....cause its not about moving in together which would be cool cause they are both adult with kids...but its to make that statement true...*Till death do us part*....in most cases death is far from the picture, i hate divorce cause its the children that suffers the final Burden of the whole thing. ...i wish them well.
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Dear @tarazkp ! I felt you were very brave! Everyone has a great fear of revealing their dark past to the public. This tendency is especially strong in the East Asian world. That's why I feel afraid to reveal my personal history to you! So, I'm amazed every time you reveal your personal history!π― > In the last few years, a guy I know has gone through a divorce and has started seeing someone new. Both have kids, but my acquaintance's child is a young adult now and will soon move out of home permanently. The new partner has a couple pre-teen children. At this stage in the relationship, nothing is certain. I felt that it was natural for divorced people to meet and remarry! However, I do not like divorce. Because the children of divorced people always live with great wounds! I hope the children of divorced people heal their wounds quickly!
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If people like keeping their finances separate so that it will be easy to walk away, I wouldn't support that. I think that married couples should move in together rather than advocate for separate accomodations
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But, if you went through a bad breakup with shared finances, would you be generous to your wife?
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Hmmm! It's hard to decide
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I wonder if the financial benefit can outweigh the emotional risk of living together early on. Couples usually build up their relationship while dating. They put their best foot forward, slowly get comfortable with each other, and eventually showing their regular side. Without enough build up time, moving together early can be a shock to both of them. I guess the silver lining is that they were already in a long term relationship, so adjusting isn't new to them.
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>They put their best foot forward, slowly get comfortable with each other, and eventually showing their regular side. This has been the way it is done recently, but relationships aren't lasting as long as in the past, where they only really got to know each other *after the wedding.* As weird as that might sound to us now, perhaps it meant that people fell in love with the real person as they saw them in all situations, rather than the "best face" of the person whilst dating. They learned to love each other as they are, instead of the faΓ§ade that fades as normalcy sets in.
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If they fell in love with the real person because of the setup now, why are relationships not lasting as long as in the past?
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> a strong relationship requires that strain, but it has to be the right kind of pressure. Seriously, if you can't handle a bit of pressure even early on, you may as not be together. Jamie and I have gone through tons of pressure right from the start and it never broke us - we problem solved together, because we were ready to make that emotional investment. It's a no brainer to rent one place out and give co habitation a go. If you cant hack that you may as well not open your heart. But then I'm an all in kinda gal. My mother in law is in a situation where she's repartnered at 76 and they have two houses. It'd make sense to share, but the thing is, at that age they're keen to leave the houses to their children, so if they shared finances it'd just get messy. Still, I reckon if they pooled their assets and finances, they could still leave a good amount to the kids and be better off financially as well. Thing is, at that age, you're pretty set in your ways and reluctant to change. He won't move from the bungalow he's lived in for forty years even though she's got the better house, and she won't sell because her daughter's living in a shack in the garden. Life gets complicated.
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>If you cant hack that you may as well not open your heart. This is how I see it. I think the best relationships I have had in my life, have been started from a place where there was initial challenge, thrown into something together and working through it. I reckon it helped us invest in each other and have shared priorities early. >My mother in law is in a situation where she's repartnered at 76 and they have two houses At that age, just be happy - there isn't much time left :)
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> At that age, just be happy - there isn't much time left :) πππ
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