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The lies we tell
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This morning, my wife wanted to cut our daughter's nails and looked for the small scissors from the drawer where they are kept in her room. They weren't there however. When @smallsteps was asked where they were - an odyssey ensued:

# Lie to me

>"I left them where they belong. But, last night, while I was sleeping, the window was open a little and a bug came in. I didn't see the bug, but i know that it was a bug because I heard a buzzzzzzzzing sound. The bug went into the drawer and took the scissors, carrying them with its legs and put them somewhere. I didn't see the bug do this, as I had my eyes closed in bed (demonstrating this with covers over her head), but the bug must have put them somewhere else and that is why they aren't in the drawer where they belong."

When I asked her what color the bug was.

>"Well, when it first came in, I saw the head only - it was red."

https://i.imgur.com/jwsZIs3.jpg

## A sign of intelligence?

I remember seeing a study demonstrated using children that was the combination of the marshmallow test (where one would have the choice to take something now or be patient in order to get a larger prize later) and willingness to lie (lying about being patient so as to get the larger prize or not have options taken away). The set up was having a toy under a cover and the kids told about it but not to peak at the toy while the tester left the room. If they didn't peak, they could play with the toy after. The results of the study were that the children that peaked and lied about it were more intelligent than those who looked and then admitted to peaking. Those that patiently waited were the least intelligent of all? -  I don't remember. 

However, what they are testing for is whether a child is able to understand there are future consequences of their actions as well as predict whether the outcome is going to be positive or negative. Those who recognized that there could be negative consequences for their behavior and then lied about it were seen as having a better understanding of ramifications and social rules. As said, I don't remember all of the study and I might not be representing it well, but you get the idea - those who lie, might be smarter than those who don't. 

## Caught in a lie

As we grow of course, we start to change the way we lie after being caught and punished in early life, we change our expressions and tone of voice, as well as the context in which we lie. We also find ways to *justify* our lies so that we can deflect them away from "protecting ourselves" and into some greater good that helps others. However we look at it, lying is a part of social norms and for many reasons is a strategy we use to negotiate the world. 

I wonder how many people feel that they don't lie, yet embellish the stories they tell, or say "No, it doesn't make your butt look big" when answering couple questions? 

Social media is a very good example of a place where lying is incentivized through the hope for attention and where the consequence for doing so is very low, due to the protection offered by pseudonimit, anonymity and distance. The internet in general is a place where marketing is pushed into every facet of the digital space, where advertising manipulation and branding is used to sell everything from cleaning products to first dates. 

## Lie to me please, but be good at it

Lying is an interesting area as pretty much *no one* wants to be lied to, even though they know they are in many ways. Essentially, we don't want to know that we are being lied to, but we don't mind the lie itself in the moment, especially if it supports our desires and ego. However, we do want to reserve the right to lie to others when we feel justified to do so, which is generally, whenever it serves our personal needs. 

The other thing is that when we feel we are being lied to, we feel cheated, but we don't always consider the reasons we are being lied to, the motivating factor behind the deception - we just feel deceived. "I was late to the meeting because you know, traffic" a bad lie, but would the room want to hear, "I was late to the meeting because I had bad fish last night and had to stop on the way to work due to diarrhea" ?  

What about surprises?

"I had a late meeting at work and couldn't get out of it" = "I was buying you an engagement ring and will soon ask you to marry me"

## The lie and what lay ahead

The consequences of our behavior are our responsibility and I would suggest that those who are able to predict the outcomes of options might be more intelligent than those who act without any future consideration at all. It doesn't mean that those who are intelligent need lie of course, it just indicates that they can run simulations of outcomes based on probabilities and then choose what is best suited, which doesn't necessarily mean, what is best suited for them. 

Compounding factors and probability is something that we aren't very good at processing in our heads, which is why we simplify our thinking heavily. Some people spend so much time thinking about things however, there is no action - which is another issue again. Our habits facilitate quick decisions, our slow considerations temper them so we don't leap in out of habit - Finding the balance between the fast and slow allows us to make fast decisions in low cost areas, slow decisions when the stakes are high - maturing is understanding the difference. 

## Negotiating with experience

My almost four year old daughter is in the phase where she is negotiating with experience to find the balance, to work out where the costs and benefits lay and where the lines that can be crossed can be. As a parent, it is a fine line to tread as there is the risk that one encourages too much lie and the risk that one crushes too much imagination. The imagination is our creative powerhouse and propels our species forward, but it is essentially building fantasy out of reality, lying to the self, creating an illusion. It is only when these illusions are mistaken for reality that they become delusions.  

We all like to think that we are pretty good at lie detecting, but our experience should tell us differently, considering how much we believe ends up being proven false. As a ten year old, I picked Milli Vanilli as an engineered lie before it was ever public - but does this give me a false sense of security? We catch some lies and then feel that we "pick them all" when in reality with so many flying through the constant stream of information that chops and changes and crosses well outside of our real-world experience, it is impossible to catch them all. 

It is interesting when I see people who have obviously Google searched their belief system state as if they are experts on various subject matters, as if they know the truth about climate change or the moon landing - as if they are insiders. The thing with the internet is that no matter what one believes, there is always multiple sources that can be called upon to back them up and *justify* the position. 

## Living with the lies

Belief doesn't mean lying of course, as one can truly believe in something that is false. The lie comes in through intention to deceive, intention to manipulate - often for personal gain or the reduction of exposure to loss. At the end of the day, we each have to live with the consequences of our actions and for many, the biggest lies told are the ones we tell ourselves. 

We might think we get away with it, but that could be because we haven't identified the real losses incurred - just like we don't know how many lies slip past our awareness. 

Truth or dare. 

Taraz
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@badfinger ·
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At a time I was onto Lie Detecting, I tried to learn that and become some expert. Poor old me!

There is a TV series  called "Lie To Me" it's nice, it gives a lot of information about Non Verbal Communication
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@tarazkp ·
That series is based upon a real person - a very interesting profession :)
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@badfinger ·
yeah I heard that, Years ago My dream profession 😜
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@bashadow ·
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Lies are an important part of society. Would society function with out them? I don't think so. As for the `"hypothetical lone survivor"`, I think their entire thought process would have to be lies, we need society as a species, even if we just live on the outskirts of it.

Truth seeking is fun, but being able to tell a lie that is so audacious and unbelievable, keep repeating it often enough and it will become the truth for some. 
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@tarazkp ·
I wonder if the lone survivor would create a fantasy world of mythical creatures and gods? I wonder what they would dream about  - would they see people in their dreams?
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@bashadow ·
Imagine that the Earth, the planet, is a lone survivor. Are we just the fantasy world of the Earth? are we the dream the Earth is locked into and can not wake from, as we become a nightmare to it? The earthquakes all nighttime shudders, the volcano's all flatulence under the blanket, tsunamis - opps nighttime bed wetting. I hope the Earth is not a psychotic lone survivor.  
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@bescouted ·
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Lying requires imagination. Lying and not getting caught requires intelligence. Lying like a kid requires creativity. Lying like a kid and not getting caught requires genius.
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@tarazkp ·
I really like this!
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@bescouted ·
I surprised myself tbh lol 
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@cranium ·
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Everyone can lie to everyone except yourself. Every time we deceive someone, we deceive ourselves.
I used to lie a lot. Now I prefer to remain silent and not finish, than to compose a lie. It's easier for me.
For children, the line between truth and falsehood is even more subtle than for adults. They often can 100% believe in their imagination, believing that this is true. And yes, a lie is a sign of intelligence !!!
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@tarazkp ·
I think that these days there are many who are able to deceive themselves by creating a false reality through digital life. For example, we can feel skilled, even though all we can do is use an x-box controller.
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@cranium ·
Your example is more like someone making us trick ourselves. Although this is a hoax, it is not intentional. I think it is not so important as when we are fooling ourselves intentionally. For example: “I won’t go to the dentist, the tooth doesn’t hurt so badly. I was even able to sleep for an hour during the night, but Why I will go to the dentist?” :)

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@creativemary ·
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Should I dare and say "Everybody lies"? Dr House is in the house lol. I think that avoiding lies is almost impossible. Innocent or evil lies, it is almost utopic to think that people could live lie-free. As you mentioned, we start the lies with ourselves. And usually those who make a good job in lying to themselves manage to pull it off towards others as well. I think we could think about the ethics of lying. And to adapt ourselves according to moral rules while we drop once in a while a little lie. Just like in that song, tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies... Ethics would be about making those lies "sweet" and not poisonous I guess.
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@tarazkp ·
>And usually those who make a good job in lying to themselves manage to pull it off towards others as well. 

Yep, it is no longer a lie -  it is a belief.

Sweet lies to one might be the fracturing of lives for another perhaps - who decides, the liar, or the receiver?
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@creativemary ·
This is quite a debate. Innocent lies harm no one. But the degree of harmness.... Who is the judge of that.... I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle and both people should come to an agreement after the lie has been exposed. I think what would be more harmful would be that after the wounds post-lie are exposed, that people still maintain the same opinion. When practically the communication about lying has led to nothing.
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@debbie-ese ·
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Lie is innate. We don't have to go to school to learn it but as we grow older we fathom even more sweet ways to lie. Haha
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@tarazkp ·
Innate perhaps, but is it only relevant in the context of society? Would the hypothetical lone survivor with no experience of social contact still lie to themselves?
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@debbie-ese ·
That's somewhat deep and thoughtful. Human beings have behaviors that are peculiar to us that we were born with but the society also shapes our thinking and disposition to life and everything around it.

Social Contact and our relationship with one another is the nucleus of our well-being. 

Regards ❤️
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@dswigle ·
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Psychologists will tell you that lying is developmentally normal, especially at your daughter's age. From all the reading that I have done, they tie it to the development of their cognitive skills.

I Can Only Imagine what is going on inside of their heads as they develop this elaborate story they may or may not believe. Have you ever heard something long enough that you had to stop and think whether it is true or not? I have.

So I have to wonder where those scissors were? And are you exactly sure that that red face bug did not grab them? Always something interesting to ponder. Thank you and I hope you're having a great day!

Upped and reposted 

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@askmihai ·
[The media](https://youtu.be/Y8n9ta2kotM?list=PLF707D86B1E96EF89) is relying on the fact that people are gonna believe their lies, as long as they are repeated enough times.
[They](https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_nonlethalweapons10.htm) also rely on the fact that people people prefer to believe lies, because they're too weak to handle our reality. 
That's why it's so hard to share our reality: people are to weak to handle it.
How effective are we when we function from lies?
I don't know and I don't think we're effective enough.

- How can we make our reality more relevant so we can help people be more effective?

![question 2.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmV39NNs55jBbpNmDCvjzkcb3MQHBUxj1wZb4WJr23zbqz/question%202.png)

We can combine it with relevant stuff, such as music.
After people found about our reality through [a music resource](https://youtu.be/ocfyQcrwfK0?list=FL9z18Qszd-ZpJ7jq22wyqNA), they might be curious to study [an educational resource](https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_americanempire75.htm).

From what I found, our current world challenge leads toward their [NWO new world order / a world of total enslavement]( https://youtu.be/l5rlR-Jpu2E?list=PLF707D86B1E96EF89). Their motto is: 
- order out of chaos: 

When the chaos is big enough they can impose their [new world order](https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica2/esp_sociopol_nwo278.htm)
Our challenge is to prevent chaos that for the most part is already a reality. 
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@tarazkp ·
>Have you ever heard something long enough that you had to stop and think whether it is true or not? I have.

I think this is what happens through the news - repeat, repeat, repeat for 24-48 hours and then change the topic before too much though gets allocated it. It is an easy way to manipulate people into believing something long-term. 

She is awesome when she is making up stories :D
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@dswigle ·
I agree!  I love how animated they get as they detail their tale! Oh, for the simplicity, and yet, it is such a complex little brain at work.  

I love every step of the way, as they change and grow, as we push a little here and there to help mold. I have to wonder if my mother enjoyed this kind of growth as well, but, I know she didn't.  

Enjoy every moment. You blink one more time and she will be 10.
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@mattclarke ·
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> but does this give me a false sense of security? We catch some lies and then feel that we "pick them all" when in reality with so many flying through the constant stream of information that chops and changes and crosses well outside of our real-world experience, it is impossible to catch them all.

If after half an hour, you can't spot the sucker at the table...
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@tarazkp ·
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Yes, but these days the sense is that we can pick the sucker, and we are confident it is always someone else.
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@papilloncharity · (edited)
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Well think about the things that we call "fables". There was never a maid that turned into a princess and lost her glass shoe. Riding in what I think was a pumpkin?

Your little cutie's version was a fable of her imagination, although the color red of the bug's head could indicate that she knew that there was some kind of trouble.

All men are liars in one way or another, some just embellish their lies better.

This is not a lie like "the check is in the mail", I have a low vote count and will do so tomorrow!
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@tarazkp ·
All me are liars, as are all women - perhaps it is a uniquely human quality?

I remember reading that Vampires were created to scare children into eating garlic, a very good way to fight against the flu :)
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@papilloncharity ·
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Hahaha, in our case we were scared by a huge whip if we didn't eat all of our veggies!
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@por500bolos ·
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Well, I don't know if those who can lie and lie well are specifically more intelligent than others. But what I'm sure is, that to become into an almost infallible liar, you must be an expert and very acute reader of human gestuality. Possess  an outstanding good memory. And cultivate & nurture everyday a remarkably good sense of humor. };)
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@tarazkp ·
> Possess an outstanding good memory. 

Ah, this is where I fail.
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@por500bolos ·
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Oh! an outstanding good memory is fundamental. I'm afraid you will never turn out to be an **infallible** liar. :)
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@ryivhnn ·
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The epic tales kids tell when they're learning to lie is hilarious XD

Sign of intellience eh, well that explains a lot XD
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@tarazkp ·
>Sign of intelligence eh, well that explains a lot 

:D Everyone wants intelligent children -until the reality of intelligent children sets in.
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@ryivhnn ·
LoL! Yep pretty much x_x
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