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The next (real) ATH? by tarazkp

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· @tarazkp ·
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The next (real) ATH?
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On the 11th of November, we will be one year from the last All Time High (ATH) of Bitcoin at 67.5K, which seems like *an eternity* ago, considering that since then, there has been a low of 18.5K -  A fall of over 70% in 12 months. However, it is actually a bit worse than that, because also in that time, inflation has risen with an average of over 8%, meaning that the real value of current price is worse than it appears. 

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Factoring in purchasing power, Bitcoin at the current 19,700 is buying the same as 18,100 a year ago. And, this also means that in real terms, if Bitcoin was to ATH today, it would need to hit 72,900 for 1 BTC to be able to buy as much as 1 BTC a year ago.


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This is quite interesting to consider in many respects, where for example, the pay increase I got at the start of the year when I took a new position with far more responsibility and workload, while still positive in terms of earnings, is *far less* than what it was worth when I agreed to it. However, at least I got the increase that holds me around +/-0, as staying in the position I was would have saved me effort with lower responsibility, but still would have been impacted by inflation in real purchase respects.   

On a post I wrote last night, there was a comment about the future of crypto prices requiring trust on crypto in the market place, but I disagree with this. Not because trust isn't important, because it *definitely is* for projects aiming for longevity, but because it isn't needed for most projects, as they just want hype. And hype is a driver of what they need - 

## Greed.

*Greed is good.* At least for investment values in the markets, because when people are greedy, they want to buy, they want to get them gains. And, because there has been a *massive amount* of over printing of the money supply through quantitative easing policies in the last few years, there is going to be a lot of volatility, as that "new money" moves into more speculative and higher risk/reward investment assets, especially as interest rates will begin to fall, making investing more attractive again. 


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It seems that unlike a few weeks ago, we are out of the "extreme fear" stage and people are looking ahead and trying to predict the future. Whether this was the bottom or not is yet to be seen however, and the next few months should give an indication of where we are heading.

Whatever way we look at it though, due to all of this extra money in the supply, we have to be wary of our relative purchasing power, because that is what actually affects our daily lives. 

Once upon a time, being a "millionaire" meant something, but for example in Australia, over 11% of the adult population are considered millionaires, because it factors in all assets. But, is owning a house that has appreciated heavily in value over the last years really indicative of true wealth? Unlikely, as that isn't liquid, it isn't usable and, if those assets were suddenly to be sold, the percentage of millionaires would rapidly decrease, as the assets that make up that wealth erode quickly in price. 

When I was a kid, the dream was to have a million dollars in the bank and live off the interest, which at the time, would have generated over twice the average income and about 1.5x the average after tax. Plenty to live off. However, it would now produce only a third of the average income and around 25% after tax - making a million in the bank, "not what it used to be". 

If inflation keeps increasing, those with significant holdings are going to have to make some pretty strong decisions on what they do with their wealth, otherwise, it is going to keep eroding. And, while the crypto markets are volatile, they are also relatively small in the grand scheme of things, meaning that people might become more risk-seeking and throw a percentage dice down the track at the future. 

With more people realizing that 1 BTC is 1 BTC at 5K, 20K or 60K, they might start choosing to gamble on that future price and load up, willing to take the losses in the short term, until scarcity and high demand drive up the prices in the mid to long, in the hope to beat inflation and the devaluation of their wealth through economic mismanagement from the governments, which is completely out of their hands. At least with BTC, they don't have to worry about governments just printing more of it when it suits them. 

>Crypto is a hedge.

Yes, it is unlikely that many new investors are going to go all in on crypto, but this "organic" growth is likely far more valuable for the industry, as it creates a more stable 
base and the longer people are in, the more likely they will *stay in.* Those who are for short gains, will only ever be around when there are quick gains to be made, but those who are looking longer and holding longer, will value more accumulation, even if it is only a percentage of their holdings. When there are hundreds of millions of people accumulating small amounts, it adds up fast and, it generates more scarcity, as well as more potential for uplift through less people willing to part with their holdings cheaply, as they start to have more "sentiment" about what they hold. 

>Just look at the long-term HIVE holders.

Trust is important, but in investing and especially in speculative investing, it isn't required, other than the trust that tomorrow it will still stick around. It has been almost 14 years since the creation of Bitcoin and it has seen, is seeing and will see, a lot more FUD aimed at slowing down adoption. Yet still, crypto uptake continues, as does the development of the goods and services that turn a speculative asset into a an industry of business and commerce. 

And when it turns into an industry, those businesses need to build trust with their investors, customers and consumers, that they offer something of value and, will be around in the future. 

Market price however, isn't a good indicator of usecase, all it tells is the sentiment of the speculators in the moment. It doesn't indicate success of product, nor does it tell anything about longevity - but regardless of how useless it is as a predictor, it does get the majority of the attention and focus, especially from the media. 

When that next ATH comes, holders will celebrate, advocates will feel justified and nocoiners will lament - but, what will the real value of it be, what will 68K be worth in the real world of purchase power?  Much like my salary that looks good on paper in comparison to the past, the reality is quite different. 

But everyone loves an ATH.

I don't know when the next ATH will be, but the next "real" ATH in terms of purchasing power, is going to be some time after that.  

Taraz
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@ajanaku ·
RE: The next (real) ATH?
This simple indicate even if income rise,it can still become meaningless since Inflation keep dealing with our purchasing power in a negative Way,this is the situation we are in Nigeria,since September a dollar to naira move from 480/1$ to 1$/920 that crazy stuff right,the crazy part  inflation is affecting dollar also , which means naira is suffering in two face 

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@bozz ·
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RE: The next (real) ATH?
I would have guessed it was a lot longer ago than a year if you had asked me when the last time BTC was at its ATH.  I can't believe it has only been that long.  It feels like it has been forever!  Yeah, that 1 million mark ain't quite what it used to be.  It still has a lot of buying power in my neck of the woods, but nowhere near where it would have put you back in the day!

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@tarazkp ·
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>I can't believe it has only been that long

Bulls charge, bears lumber along, rarely in a hurry. 

When I was a kid, my math teacher did the working on the *blackboard,* and it was retirement money at 45.  
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@bozz ·
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Yeah, I remember stuff like that too.  I think I would still be okay if I could get my hands on a million, but I have other stuff in place to supplement it too.
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@depressedfuckup ·
RE: The next (real) ATH?
Hodling is easier said than done, and even most people that initially planned to hodl, end up selling and realizing their loses because of impatience for the bull run, or because of circumstances that forced them into it. Either way, your patience and discipline is going to be rewarded when the bull run comes and we reach a new real ATH.

I've never really looked at things from this perspective before, but those are some very serious points you just made. It's no longer just about a new all-time high anymore, but a new ATH that will in real value, be more than the previous. 

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@emeka4 ·
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Cryptocurrency showcases an unstable price and there's an opportunity that the ATH will definitely showcase it high price.
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@tarazkp ·
But might be meaningless :)
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@empress-eremmy ·
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> When I was a kid, the dream was to have a million dollars in the bank and live off the interest, which at the time, would have generated over twice the average income and about 1.5x the average after tax. Plenty to live off. However, it would now produce only a third of the average income and around 25% after tax - making a million in the bank, "not what it used to be".

It is how fast things change and how quickly we can be forced/need to change strategy to preserve and grow our earnings that really intrigues me. We have to keep being prepared, things will definitely be a lot more interesting in the future
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@tarazkp ·
And because it changes so fast, getting ready for retirement is a guessing game. 
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@fieryfootprints ·
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I am waiting for that 100 dollars hive...Are we there yet?
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@tarazkp ·
just imagine what this place is if it were to be worth that much :)
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@greddyforce · (edited)
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My prediction is the end of 2023 or 2024. The market probably doesn't go into an uptrend before the US starts to ease on the monetary politics. At least for now, US markets play a huge role in how the crypto markets behave.

BTC also sees a very hard time dropping below 18.5k, that's a good sign and a bottom indicator. Of course, if some doom event happens then this 18.5k will probably still fail hard.
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@tarazkp ·
>The market probably doesn't go into an uptrend before the US starts to ease on the monetary politics. 

Which I suspect might be quite quickly around the time they start campaigning for the next election. That campaign cycle will start mid-next year I think. 

>Of course, if some doom event happens then this 18.5k will probably still fail hard.

Expect something to drop it sharply in the short term. 
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@tarazkp ·
thanks :)
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@iykewatch12 ·
I'm in agreement with you here that the present price of a coin doesn't really describe its use case.
>Market price however, isn't a good indicator of usecase, all it tells is the sentiment of the speculators in the moment.

Good things also suffer challenges and surviving through those down time and still have greater value and acceptance is worth it.
I personally see a brighter future with hive. And holding is a goal for me.
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@jfang003 ·
RE: The next (real) ATH?
It's going to be a while because BTC seems to have lost one line of support. From what I see, I don't have expectations for any short term gains and the bear market is the time to build. Of course, you should stick to things that will be most likely to survive.

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@kawsar8035 ·
$0.13
A return to that golden age of last year may be a long time coming when Bitcoin reached its peak price.  The Bitcoin market always seems like a gamble.  But long-term planning can be the solution.
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@tarazkp ·
Is last year really the golden age though?
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@latinowinner ·
good analysis
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@mamalikh13 ·
$0.13
Yeah man... we have too many millionaires now.
And that means, the one million is not the same one million as we thought...
Let's see what we can buy when the next bull run comes! :)
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@tarazkp ·
>we have too many millionaires now.

Too many millionaires, unable to make ends meet! :D

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@mamalikh13 ·
Amen! :D
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@pinkchic ·
$0.13
All Time High is love! Hoping for an upward momentum but I am patiently waiting. Hodl for now. What a brilliant analysis Sir.
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@tarazkp ·
Hope you have some holdings :)
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@pinkchic ·
Yes, I am holding while on the dip, sir. Thank you so much for your wonderful remarks. Have an excellent time and take care always.
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@poshtoken · (edited)
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https://twitter.com/904656441772007424/status/1589957149333258240
https://twitter.com/1429415246129729538/status/1589980006247059457
<sub> The rewards earned on this comment will go directly to the people( @joydukeson, @michupa ) sharing the post on Twitter as long as they are registered with @poshtoken. Sign up at https://hiveposh.com.</sub>
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@rmsadkri ·
$0.16
RE: The next (real) ATH?
I am beginning to think that I may need to diversify my portfolio in the form of traditional stocks, precious metals and other available investment opportunities. This is good learning experience. I would love the next bull market but I would be better off If I play right with my instruments. 

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@tarazkp ·
Diversification is good, but also be prepared to feel the "regret" when the markets move and you say - 

>if I had gone all in....

In downtimes of course, you are glad you didn't.  
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@rmsadkri ·
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RE: RE: The next (real) ATH?
You are right. But, I would rather be conservative when it comes to these movements -up and down. 

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@ryivhnn ·
I remember the dream of a million in the bank. Still not a prayer of getting there even if it’s not as much at it used to be πŸ˜†

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@urri2020 ·
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>When I was a kid, the dream was to have a million dollars in the bank and live off the interest, which at the time, would have generated over twice the average income and about 1.5x the average after tax.

Your $1 million is your 1 million Hive. You yourself know that at a distance it is better than dollars. And 10-20% per annum from curation or delegation can always be earned.
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@tarazkp ·
Yeah, 10-20% isn't too bad - just have to collect another 750K :)
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@urri2020 ·
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When you have 200k for delegation, maybe we can work on my son's account) He used to have 20%, now 15% per annum.
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@videoaddiction ·
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>But, is owning a house that has appreciated heavily in value over the last years really indicative of true wealth?

If talk about my country, owning a house or a car has been a sign of wealth since the last year as even finding a rental house or a purchasable car has been very difficult.
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@tarazkp ·
Yes, but if it was bought 5 years ago and has gone up in value 100% since, it still counts as wealth, but to service the loan might be very difficult. Will be interesting to see if this is a prolonged downturn. 
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@yibbiy ·
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It dipped hard today 🩸🩸🩸

The support range may become resistance now. 
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@tarazkp ·
It was a bit of a dip - but hopefully that should create a good strong-hand base. Time will tell. At the end of the day... there is room ahead :) 
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