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The Value of Your Life
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In a comment with @riverflows a little while back, a thought came to mind as an extension to my post last night about [content value,](https://peakd.com/hive-174578/@tarazkp/well-that-evaluated-quickly) which raises the next question of life value. 

Do all lives matter equally?


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Rather than getting stuck in the gutters of social movements however, I will just cut straight to the chase for me;

### No. Lives *do not matter equally.*

While they all might matter, how much they matter is a spectrum and is spread across many axes, which largely comes down to personal opinion. Just like the value of content is quite subjective, there are points that could be enumerated to evaluate also, like the number of comments, views, shares and the like. While these aren't the only indicators of value, they can be used to create a rough kind of guide to move closer to a ballpark evaluation. 

We might not want to admit it, but lives have the same kinds of numbers attached to them and we all have a partially subjective and partially objective value profile. For example, how we make people around us feel might be quite subjective, but the economic impact we have on the shared economy is actually quite objective, though hard to get an accurate profile of due to opaque data. We could also see the value we add to the community through social interaction as a subjective measure with very little precision insight possible, yet we could enumerate the amounts of people we have helped, though that is impossible to see also, especially once it goes into extended degrees of separation.

On top of this, the easiest way for me to prove to myself that one life is more valuable than another, is by looking at my own willingness to give up my own. If it meant saving my daughter or wife, I would give my life in a heartbeat, especially since I don't overly value my own life, but value theirs greatly. And, I would give up both mine and my wife's if it meant saving our daughter's. 

Not pleasant thoughts perhaps, but it shows there is a hierarchy of value applied at an individual level, which indicates that it could be extrapolated out to other applications. Like it or not, we all are biased and we are all going to make preference decisions, so it is "only natural" that these biases get translated into the communities and cultures *we* create.

But, this aside, what led me down this path initially was the eternal discussion of content value, where there are all sorts of disagreements and, all sorts of excuses as to why some should be excused, while others are held to a different standard. And it is that last word that is the problem - "Standard".

Just like all individuals are ultimately unique, there is no standard as to what content provides value. But, *even though* everyone is unique, we are all ultimately more similar than we are different and, we can largely be put into groups based on the way we behave, our beliefs, looks or any number of other filters. However, while some people seem to want to go down the rabbit hole of identity separation until we are all completely empowered to live absolutely alone, I see stereotyping as useful, because we all do it by nature, regardless of how woke we might think we are.

And, we don't just apply it to people, we apply it to situations, governments, countries and nature. Stereotyping is the only way we can make it through our world, because if we don't, due to the ultimate individuality of all things, everything at all times becomes unrecognizable. When we pick up a fork, we recognize it based on its shape as *not a spoon.* When we see a bird, we recognize it as such, even if we don't know what kind of bird it is. 

>Is this subjective, or objective? 

That is a question for reflection, but I wonder if we were able to have a "perfect view" of all activities, all interactions, all influences and knock-on effects and all results, we would be able to objectively apply a value of some kind, working backwards to see what events compounded into the result. 

>We don't have a perfect view.

So, we use what we know with what we have to evaluate, forming an opinion, a preference, a heuristic or whatever we need, in order to manage our own behaviors. For better or worse, good outcome or bad. 

Working back, what got me thinking about all of this in the first place was considering how some people behave on Hive and how they might behave in the physical world. Are they the same? Is there a large disparity between the digital and real world? If they are adding value here, are they also value-adding to their community in which they live - *even for people they don't know personally?*

It is interesting to think about, because as I and others have noted before, often the people who consistently earn *on their content* for Hive, are also relatively skilled people who have a diversity of experience, including many jobs at different levels of organizations. And often, the people who have excuses for why they behave "badly", will cite their struggles in real life. For example, if a person is saying that they are not powering up and selling all their HIVE because of their desperate IRL needs, what does that say (on average) about that person?

>Does it say something?

We all have issues of course and uncontrollable circumstances happen to us all also, but essentially, looking at a given point in time, it is an admission that one isn't able to cope with current circumstances. Sure, that might be a temporary problem due to the unexpected, but it could also be due to common process of that person, where they have got themselves into that position through their own behavior and, will continue to, because they aren't learning from the last time. 

>Not learning from our mistakes is common, is it not?

Generally, the value of the content is going to be tied to the richness of the experience of the content creator, as well as their skills and creativity levels. So, what does this say about the value of the person behind the content? Is there a correlation between what someone has done and what they are able to offer the community and, is there a correlation between the value they may add here and the value they add to their real world?

Taking money out of the equation, doesn't "wealth of experience" have more value than very little experience? Would you rather hear a story from someone who has lived a colorful life, or someone who has spent their life in front of the TV? Sure, both might be creative, but authenticity also shines through, and the inauthentic generally isn't received well by the audience on Hive, let alone gets paid.

In a type of trolley problem scenario, if there are two people at risk of death, with one being someone you consider to be value adding to your community and the other someone you consider to be value detracting, and you have the power to only save one - is it a hard decision?

>Flip a coin.

What are the possible regrets down the track?

### Track record matters.

Value is always subjective and it isn't just by the person making the judgement, but the conditions that person faces in the given moment. The value of a glass of water to an individual is very low when hydrated, very high when near succumbing dehydration. People waste water every day, while other people treasure it like gold. 

>People also waste their opportunities.

They waste their skills, they are unwilling to learn more, they only do what they like, they don't want to be uncomfortable, they are risk adverse, they are uninterested, lazy... whatever. 

We can all do those things, we are all free to do *absolutely nothing.* But, who are you willing to hire at your company, who are you willing to support in your community, who are you willing to have look after your family if needed? The selection narrows fast, doesn't it?

>Because of trust. 

In a space like Hive, trust is important and that trust is built through behavior over a period of time, not the contents of a single post or even a month worth. That trust takes years to build in some cases and, it can be lost in a minute. It has happened many times, where someone "trusted" became untrusted, because of their greed or, circumstances of desperation, where they felt that they were justified to behave poorly.

When we look at the value of social capital, the value of a person in our community, that is what it comes down to. 

### Trust. 

Are you acting in a way that builds trust in you positively in the community or, in a way that you can be trusted to take the negative route?

The way we behave always influences our results, no matter where we are, or what we do.

How valuable are we?

In the grand scheme of things, we aren't very valuable - but that can change drastically when filtered into the moment, especially for the people around us. 

*But none of us are valuable by default.*

Taraz
[ Gen1: Hive ]


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@attilio-cesare ·
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i believe, each of, our value comes in degrees, as well…
the more each of us cleanses and/or polishes the hue/stain/tarnish from our individual hue-manity, to reveal the golden wo/manKINDness underneath…
**the true value, with which we each possess when born into this lifetime experience, is visible (to those with eyes πŸ‘€ to see and realize).** 🀲 
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@tarazkp ·
>i believe, each of, our value comes in degrees, as well…

Degrees of value and then, degrees of time and space that will affect what we value in any given moment. It isn't easy being human, until you let go of all the flaws we have and just live. 
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@attilio-cesare ·
yes, β€œIt isn’t easy being human…” as it is unnatural for us to be programmed that way…
however, it is easy to be, naturally, mankind! (it only requires a lot of de-programming) πŸ’₯ 

much love πŸ’— respect ✊ and gratitude πŸ™, to you, for all you be and do! πŸ‘‘ 
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@aussieninja ·
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Just so everyone knows where they stand... I'd give you all up for the life of one really great dog.
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@tarazkp ·
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Lols, this made me laugh!
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@bashadow ·
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Stereotypes can change but only if the group being stereotyped take actions to positively change the stereotype, and it takes years and decades to change the other groups view.

There is a difference between life values, is a father of two, more important than the life of an individual that commits murder? In my view yes, they have more value, they are adding to society while the other is taking away from society.

I did like how you framed this post it was a very thought provoking one.
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@tarazkp ·
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It takes decades to change the stereotype, moments to "win" it back. 

> In my view yes, they have more value, they are adding to society while the other is taking away from society.

Exactly, So, why is it such a taboo topic? Of course, nearly everyone sees themselves as deserving of being valued, but is it the case?

>I did like how you framed this post it was a very thought provoking one.

Thanks :)
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@chillyanca ·
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We are all created equal, one life is not more valuable than the order, the only time life of one becomes more valuable is when we sacrifice our self for our love once, the example you gave above, you can lay down your life when it comes to your wife and daughter, that what every parent emulate. 
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@tarazkp ·
>We are all created equal

Do you actually think this is the case? I don't think so. We all have so many differences that affect us that we can't control, like our IQ or height, that it is hard to justify a stance for equality. 
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@chillyanca ·
Why I said so, is that one can be very good in one aspect, and better than the other, but the other person may be very good in a different aspect too, that why everyone in life has his/her allocation.
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@cryptoandcoffee ·
The value of life here in Africa is horrific as it has no value.

I do think life experiences mean you offer more value through your posts compared to someone who hasn't lived as much experiencing different things. I think this is why having varied interests compared to someone who is stuck with one or maybe two topics is limited and would earn far less. 
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@hislab ·
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You are very correct about trust. Trust will definitely take time to be built, ranging from months to years but losing it can only take a second.

Nice post
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@tarazkp ·
THanks. 
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@iykewatch12 ·
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Value, standard, are creation of a society based on sentiments.
>Like it or not, we all are biased and we are all going to make preference decisions, so it is "only natural" that these biases get translated into the communities and cultures we create.

Anyone says he/she isn't biased just blew a trumpet to the world how biased and sentimental he or she is.

**Wastage** is another point that got me thinking. Most times, we don't treasure what we have as they say until we loose it . What ever we have we ought to treasure and impacting into the lives of others gives us a fresh joy. Every life matters no much statement about this.

People have made money but there's something the world is lacking and the very few who show signs of possessing that rare asset are valued and that asset is  **trust**. Once you're trusted and you never valued the trusted bestowed on you forget it you have missed. 
*I don't see this as a regular article on the social media I see this your post @tarazkp as a transformation message to all who cares to read and change*. Thanks
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@tarazkp ·
>Anyone says he/she isn't biased just blew a trumpet to the world how biased and sentimental he or she is.

It is a good indicator. 

Have you ever had your trust broken?
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@iykewatch12 ·
Trust is precious and if I put my trust in you once and you took for a ride or weakness that's the end I can't trust you again.
If my trust had been broken is a yes and it came from a clergy who I so much trusted with my personal life and experience hoping that he could prayerfully guide me through rather it became a sermon the next fellowship day. Since then I no more trust anyone blindly. 
I'm sure that I have also broken someone's trust which I cried for a second opposite though I got the opportunity I became more conscious about trust.
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@mattclarke ·
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Makes coding self-driving cars problematic. 
Even if they could detect something like age. 
A teenager steps out into the street, and the car decides to swerve onto the footpath and kill an old guy instead. 
Surely personal culpability has to be a factor. The inattentive teen might still be inattentive tomorrow and get hit by a different car; while the old gent has a history of careful road use spanning decades. 
Maybe the teen's suicidal and the actions of the car only **saved** them another 15 mins. 
Maybe the old guy's on his way to the lab, to finish writing up his new cure for cancer. 
What if the car detects a person lying, still on the road? It'd need to estimate how likely they are to already be dead; before deciding whether/not to swerve.   
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@tarazkp ·
$0.13
Yep, the coding heuristics into AI is going to be a challenge, but I guess, once enough of the wrong people are runover, they will refine to aim for the right person. I guess they will apply a "scoring system" where there are extra points or detractors for who is hit or circumstances, just to gamify it a bit more. 

>Surely personal culpability has to be a factor. The inattentive teen might still be inattentive tomorrow and get hit by a different car; 

And, this opens up the question of purposeful activity to force an outcome. Step out on purpose in a situation where there is a targeted individual to swerve into. Assassination via self-driving car.
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@mattclarke ·
$0.75
Happily social credit scores will help discriminate between useful, civic minded individuals and selfish troublesome individualists. 
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@mdsahin111 ·
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In order to make life beautiful literally I think a beautiful life partner is very necessary to support my life battle. One who is able to distinguish between right and wrong. What we see from the front is the sight of the eye and what we imagine is the feeling of the mind.
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@tarazkp ·
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but so is forgiveness. How many are willing to forgive and if not, how many are able to love? 
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@meesterboom ·
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I like to think of all value as relative to the observer. Just like Einstein, who I might add, also had a large *mumper*
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@tarazkp ·
$0.22
I just looked up "mumper"


![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/tarazkp/Eo6S9Q1ScYe4ByHxeHg1zxwG8me8m4C2T1WLEtpS3kTdHskRCZzX6o49KJEwFV64aN6.png)

Well, there are plenty of them on Hive!

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@meesterboom ·
$0.21
Lol, I didnt realise it was a real word! I should have stuck with dong! :OD
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@menox98 ·
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The value of life begins with defining the desired goals in a way of living that is specific to the human being, who is able to distinguish between right and wrong.
The beautiful thing is that you want the interest of others as you love it for yourself. This is one of the most beautiful values of life.
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@tarazkp ·
Right and wrong is always a position of perspective and yes, we have a need for social connection, and some will do anything for it, including scam :)
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@menox98 ·
Do you agree with me that schools don't care about  values of life and morals between people? It only prepares individuals who care only about their personal goals and their future. We need collaboration 
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@mightyrocklee ·
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it is quite often that people generalize, just see the track and train paradox, when you need to choise between 1 person or 5 person on two different tracks, or the car one, when you need to choose between a family with 2 kids or you bumping into a wall. 

And my favourites top two jokes:

First one at driving test, when the instructor asks you:
You are on the street, driving, and you have an old lady on the left, and a child on the right. What do you choose to hit? 
You are in a 2 seat car, and on the stormy, rainy day, you see in the bus stop your best friend, the love of your life, and an old lady needing to go to hospital urgently, what do you do? Remember, just 2 seats. 

Check the answers bellow (think outside the box)

(Right answer question 1: you choose to hit the break pedal
Right answer question 2: you let your best friend to drive old lady to hospital, and you stay with the love of your life.)

So the final question will be: can you change fate?


<center>![no fate.jpg](https://images.hive.blog/DQmUsDtVokXisS6J3sp2sE33m8KgnnnqJpQy7LhVeqcj1Pk/no%20fate.jpg)</center>
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@tarazkp ·
$0.42
The generalization has to happen and most likely, the less time we have to think about it, the more we rely on our past stereotyping information. 

>You are on the street, driving, and you have an old lady on the left, and a child on the right. What do you choose to hit?

First thing that came to mind was, can't I swerve and get both? ;D

I really like the second one. I will ask my wife later :)


>So the final question will be: can you change fate?

And this is the topic of freewill - all an illusion I say, but that doesn't mean we can't adjust ourselves, to shift onto a new path with another fate. 
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@nathen007 ·
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The huge majority of people within social groups online are exactly the same in real life Ive found in almost 25 years of meeting up with 'pen pals' and going to meet ups all over the world. 

What skews this here is money. Id suggest the most similar personalities both on and offline are the ones who need the reward least and the ones who want reward most, the most different, possibly in a both either a positive or negative way.

Very different to quantify value in terms of a human unless you know every facet of that life, its quite a clinical endeavoud.

As for trust. Its a strange thing, but many of the people Id genuinely trust on Hive are people I dont actually like and vice versa. It's an odd phenomenon. So many factors upon which we quantify a humans 'value', many of which are contradictory. 

You also touched on an interesting philosophical point on who'd you save. Wife or child? You chose child. Not the most tasteful subject matter but would make an interesting dpoll!

Excellent writing and best wishes to you and your family.
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@tarazkp ·
>What skews this here is money.

Definitely. Money often changes a person's behavior from when there is no money on the table. I think it might be somewhat through cultural learning, which places a high importance on it for society, so we value it, even if it isn't important for us in a given moment. There is obviously a competition aspect to this too, where we want to be better/ have more than others. 

>Id suggest the most similar personalities both on and offline are the ones who need the reward least and the ones who want reward most, the most different, possibly in a both either a positive or negative way.

I have the same intuition on this. 

>Very different to quantify value in terms of a human unless you know every facet of that life, its quite a clinical endeavoud.

Yeah, it is more of a hypothetical under impossible conditions. Yet, we tend to do it in our heads and on the fly with amazing speed - and "perceived" accuracy. WE make a judgement and walk away, never having to discover how wrong we may have been. 

>So many factors upon which we quantify a humans 'value', many of which are contradictory.

Which is why the moment matters so much. "I am a lovely person" - *(unless you catch me in a terrible mood.)*

>You chose child.

It depends on the quality of the wife and child also ;D

Thanks for taking the time for a great comment! 
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@ryivhnn ·
> all sorts of excuses as to why some should be excused

Wild guess, something that someone agrees with out of it’s someone they like should be excused but someone else they don’t like or don’t know doing literally the exact same thing but in a different context or even the same context should be brutally punished/ostracised/forked out? πŸ˜†

I get the value assigning thing and simultaneously find it kind of lame that we boil everything down to transactions πŸ˜“
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@trucklife-family ·
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I believe that our value, is tied in with our actions. Just like you have pointed out. We make choices everyday about the life we wish to live and we can choose to be more proactive, or to just sit back and just let life happen. 
It would be really difficult to be in a position where you had to decide on the faith of others, by the the value they have within society. 
I stepped out of society, for want of a better way of life and one that is more intune with me. So that I live closer to nature. I would like my value to be judged by how I treat nature itself, which encompasses so much and yet to others, I may have no value at all, because I am not helping to advance humankind, well not in their words. Even though any work we do to work with the natural world is in huge super of humankind.
Very interesting topic, there is so many different layers to it and yes a lot is down to how we perceive the world and one another xxx
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@tarazkp ·
>It would be really difficult to be in a position where you had to decide on the faith of others, by the the value they have within society.

For sure. And similarly, being judged by others based on their opinions about you. It would have to be pushed out into automation, otherwise, it will be the Salem witch hunts all over again. 

The nature/ humankind questions are interesting, considering that ultimately, we are always inside nature and products of it, despite what we might believe of ourselves. We can affect it, but we can never beat it. Helping preserve nature is actually a selfish act, as it comes down to self-preservation, yet, that is the natural thing to do :)

I use "selfish" there in a way I think you will understand in this context :) 
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@trucklife-family ·
Yes indeed, we have to be selfish, if we wish to thrive and help nature thrive, everything is connected xxx
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@twicejoy ·
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> The way we behave always influences our results, no matter where we are, or what we do.

What a valid point you made here Sir. 
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@tarazkp ·
Thanks.
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@twicejoy ·
You welcome sir 
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@videoaddiction ·
> Is there a large disparity between the digital and real world? 

I don't think so. We can guess someone's personality as well as value norm from their contents on HIVE. Not %100, but they give us clues.
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