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TrickZING and SwapZING by tarazkp

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· @tarazkp ·
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TrickZING and SwapZING
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Over the last couple days, I have been asked a couple questions about ZING delegation APR (Annual Percentage Rate) fluctuations, as the percentage has changed significantly. This is affected by a couple things, so I thought I would clear it up (as best I can) for those who are delegating to @zingtoken, as I am. 

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Firstly, just a reminder that the percentage is going to change on a couple of metrics, which is how much of the delegation "pool" is held, the price of ZING and the price of HIVE, because that is what it is referenced against. The percentage of the pool with a lien on it changes as more people enter into the delegation, or remove their delegation. 

So for instance, there are 200K ZING tokens issued per day to delegators. if a person owns 1% of the delegation pool, they will receive 2000 ZING per day. If there are only 2 delegators who each delegate 100 HIVE, they will each get 100K ZING. If another 2 delegators each add 100 HIVE, they will all get 50K ZING each. If then one delegator doubles their delegation to 200 HIVE, that person will own 2/5th of the reward pool, which is 40 percent and will therefore get 80,000 ZING, whilst the other three delegators will receive 1/5th share, 40K ZING each.

Now, the APR is also informed by the conversion value of that ZING. So the value of the delegation is based on the current blockchain price of HIVE (lets say 35 cents). So, 100 delegation is worth 35 dollars. If that is able to attract 100 ZING a day (as an example), then the value of ZING comes into play. Lets say that Zing is worth 1 cent, so 1 dollars a day. That means that all things remaining equal, the 35 dollar delegation will attract 365 dollars a year, which is an APR of about 1050%, as it is essentially 10.5 times the value of the delegation amount.

Which brings us to the price of ZING, which is a bit misleading on the website, because it references the price of ZING on Hive-Engine, the value of the last sale. This means that if someone sells a fraction of ZING at 20% below the last sale (assuming 1 cent), the total market cap of ZING will reduce by 20%, as if a large dump happened, even though it didn't. Similarly, if someone buys at a higher price, the entire market cap increases. This is one of the problems with not having a lot of "referencing" exchanges. Bitcoin for instance doesn't fluctuate like this, because there are so many trades across so many exchanges simultaneously stabilizing the price. 

However, H-E isn't the only way to trade ZING, because there are also the swaps on TribalDex and BeeSwap, and because of the much deeper liquidity there, there isn't the same kind of fluctuations in the value. So, while the price of ZING on Hive-Engine has been fluctuating on small amounts where 1000 Zing = 27/30/33 HIVE tricking the market cap, on TribalDex, it has been a relatively stable 1000=35 HIVE. 

> What is the real market cap?

Last sale is not a good indicator, because it doesn't account for trade volume. The more liquidity in the pool however, the more stable it becomes, because larger trades have less of a price impact on the total value. To illustrate:

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There is currently about $33,000 worth of liquidity in the pool. Swapping 1000 ZING makes almost zero impact on the value of the swap price, however, swapping 100K ZING will see the price of ZING drop by 6.5%. This is because it is a "ZING dump" effectively adding more ZING into the pool and taking out the equivalent value in SWAP.HIVE. 100K ZING is worth about 1300 dollars, so that comes out of the pool, reducing the "total value" of the pool by that amount. Remember that both sides of the pool have to balance, so once the SWAP.HIVE comes out, there is more ZING in the pool, less SWAPHIVE, some of the zing gets "converted" into HIVE to make it balance again at the lower total price. 

Also, if you do the math, if someone was swapping 1000 ZING, they would get 34.80 SWAP.HIVE for it, but that doesn't add up if they were to swap 100K, as they will get 3246 SWAP.HIVE, 234 less that the 100* multiple. This is slippage, which is incurred when the trade makes a significant impact on the value of the pool. If the trade is too large, it won't be possible to swap, as it is impossible to swap for more than the pool is worth.

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I am actually a little bit "worried" as the price of ZING has held up much longer than I had expected, which means my plan of buying back more cheaply, might go awry. The close it gets to release of packs and the game itself, the greater the risk gets that I will end up buying it bak at a premium. However, I have also been leaving some staked along the way, so I won't be left completely dry. 

Hopefully though, this article will give people a little insight into some of the mechanisms in play that make up the value of ZING and possibilities to trade it. What isn't known is how development is going to progress, or if the tokenomics will change after the release of packs, or how excited people will get over the game, especially if it happens to coincide with a bullish crypto market. There are always risks involved with these things, so *do your own research* and own your decisions and consequences. 

Taraz
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@bozz ·
I keep unstaking so I can put more in the LP and I think that is going to eventually come back to bite me.  I haven't sold any yet.
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@dewamke44 ·
Thank you for explaining everything clearly.
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@ducecrypto ·
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This is some high level APR analysis for a token of a game that is not playable yet. Glad you are so deep into the tokenomics, though. Sounds like a lot of people have been taking advantage of the airdrop.
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@tarazkp ·
At least those with some stake are getting into it :)
The value of the token will drop relatively fast, but that is expected.<div><a href="https://engage.hivechain.app">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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@ducecrypto ·
I wish you luck with your ZINGing! I'm working on growing my Rebellion GFs, my store of grain, and maybe even some HivePower & LeoPower as I get more consistent with posting to @inleo and @actifit.
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@heruvim1978 ·
I got 0.5% I think. Seems interesting.
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@jfang003 ·
The price holding up is pretty good but it is quite worrying as the price is the last sold. That is the case for a lot of tokens. Then again, I don't think there is an easy way to solve things because we want prices to be up to date. I do think that the liquidity pools might be the better solution to the price though.
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@kawsar8035 ·
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I have done 100 hive delegation but here what I get as APR is very low and it is between 5 to 6 zing.  Thank you for explaining the whole matter beautifully and presenting it beautifully.
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@tarazkp ·
The APR is the same for everyone. The amount of ZING is always relative to the percentage of the delegation pool owned. 
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@mattclarke ·
I've just kept everything staked. I have a long-standing policy of keeping airdrops at least 12 months. Projects are going to start auditing that one day, and I want to be on the happy list.
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@odunola ·
Thanks for explaining 
It’s really helpful 
I don’t have enough give to delegate 
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@outwars ·
That is a good explanation of what's happening. I was familiar with the concept, but I wasn't sure on how the relationship of Zing with Hive and the LPs worked. I recently staked some HP because I really liked how Acidyo was explaining and sharing the game's updates. I do hope it becomes successful.
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@pizzabot ·
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@rafzat ·
The APR is $Zing is really crazy and I’m sure that everyone is cool and happy about it
That’s a lot mehn
Do you think this can make people withdraw their HBDs and focus on $Zing?
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@relf87 ·
Price aside, it's heartening to see the Hive community coming in to support projects that are promising. Will continue to follow HoloZing and see where the price of ZING goes. Hehe!
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@rzc24-nftbbg ·
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> . . . the 35 dollar delegation will attract 365 dollars a year, which is an APR of about 1050%, as it is essentially 10.5 times the value of the delegation amount.

Are these numbers actual or they just for illustration? 

> I am actually a little bit "worried" as the price of ZING has held up much longer than I had expected, which means my plan of buying back more cheaply, might go awry. The close it gets to release of packs and the game itself, the greater the risk gets that I will end up buying it back at a premium. 

I share your anxiety though in a smaller scale. 🤣 !LOLZ

You identified the unknowns that could bring both big opportunities and risks:

* Progress of the development of the game

* Change in tokenomics after the release of packs

* Market's response,

* And a bullish crypto market 

Thanks!

!BBH

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@lolzbot ·
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@tarazkp ·
Just for illustration.
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@santigs ·
$0.10
It is amazing how the whole economic ecosystem of the game can generate so much expectation and FOMO even before the game is released. I like the way those guys are managing the launch and the information capsules every week.
Not too much into gaming but will like to try.
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@tarazkp ·
The economic implications make these far more compelling in my opinion. I like that I can "own" a bit of the game, before actually playing it. Look at the new FC24 - where people are buying players, but they can't sell their players. Missed opportunity .... money grab. 
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@thatgermandude ·
I am a simple man. I see 472% APR, I FOMO.
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@uyoho ·
I really understand through this explanation. Only that I don't have enough hive presently to delegate.
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@vcelier ·
$0.12
The amount of HP delegated to @zingtoken is currently around 3.15 million. On November 20th, @acidyo said in Discord that it had just reached 3 million. So, we had a 5% increase in 5 days, so roughly around 1% per day.

***

> I am actually a little bit "worried" as the price of ZING has held up much longer than I had expected, which means my plan of buying back more cheaply, might go awry. The closer it gets to the release of packs and the game itself,

On November 19th, @acidyo said that
- we don't want to accept zing for packs
- we'll be accepting hive/hbd and other coins outside of hive

So, I don't think the price of ZING will change when the packs are released, but it will probably change when people start playing the game.

***

By the way, you and I are the two top HP delegators to @zingtoken. Together we currently have 12.5% of the total HP delegated.
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@tarazkp ·
$0.11
It makes sense not to accept ZING for packs, as it brings more value into the economy of Holozing. 

>By the way, you and I are the two top HP delegators

Yep! I started off far lower, but I want to be a part of this long-term, so had to up it once you came in :)
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@zaibkang ·
I don't hear anything about zing before, thanks for sharing us details about zing token, I will expore it today 
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@zekepickleman ·
$0.12
Yah I was just visiting an @arcange post that is similar. Supporting is fun even before the game is available for sure. I just love the lesson in tokenomics that people are getting along the way. I haven’t put up a post in solidarity because I feel everyone has heard about it by now and there are more informed people explaining it better than I would. 

I was thinking how much I love the delegation model for supporting pre releases. So many times over the last few years, I have paid money to be in the alpha or beta releases of games. Clever way of making people purchase early but often leaves you purchasing a game that I don’t even play much at release. 

With the delegation and blockchain method, I can delegate a bit of stake to support, reap some rewards before game play, and look forward to testing and playing. If it turns out to be fun (and profitable unlike traditional games unless you sneak around the TOS) then great. If not, I can mistake and sell the assets back to the people playing the game. 

Such cool stuff that really should be evaluated by traditional game development companies striving to differentiate themselves from the crowded marketplace. 
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@rzc24-nftbbg ·
Thanks for this insightful comment. Blessings!

!BBH

!PIZZA
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@bbhbot ·
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@tarazkp ·
>I haven’t put up a post in solidarity because I feel everyone has heard about it by now and there are more informed people explaining it better than I would.

I think you could bring another perspective to it, so it might be worthwhile.

The delegation model is awesome. I wish that more used it well. It also means that a project is able to reward content and engagement around their experience. I think that for instance, Acid with @ocd will be able to build quite a base :)
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