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What doesn't Kill
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I went to a movie with a friend today. We saw *Killers of the Flower Moon,* a Martin Scorsese film with a three and a half hour runtime. Yet, for some reason, the pacing of the film itself which was methodical and even, masked the impression of the length. It wasn't filled with action, nor was it grand, yet for some reason it was compelling. While the movie is based on a book, the story itself is [true.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osage_Indian_murders) I am still processing my thoughts on it as a movie, but what it did highlight was just how greedy and calculating humanity is. 


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>Greed and calculation.

My friend is going through some life changes and as a result, is reevaluating conditions and opportunities. With the end of their marriage being highly disruptive to finances, they are looking for ways to improve their outlook, which is actually a good thing. If we did this more often, we'd likely not end up in such bad shape overall, or make less bad decisions. 

A bad decision they made was to trade in a very nice and comfortable sedan, and buy a luxury SUV partially financed. While at the time it wasn't an issue, now moving into single income life with additional financial burden, they'd like to get rid of the car payment.

>Cars are such a terrible purchase.

They are always a cost. But, depending on the car, those costs can be significantly different. Maintenance and service costs, part costs, insurances and yearly taxes - they all add up. For what? 

I *like cars,* yet I am not in the financial situation that I would consider buying what I like. There is a bottom limit on what I will drive based on needs and weather conditions here, and I will make decisions on maintenance expectations - but it doesn't really matter what I drive, as long as it does the job. Sometimes I wonder for those who have spent a lot on cars in the past, if they have run into some tight spots, do they wish they could go back and *make a trade* for a lesser model? And I wonder, did cars that they have owned really bring them some kind of return on the expense that made it worth it? 

> I don't see it.

For the most part, most of the cars are the same, with minor variations that ew might desire in a moment, but soon forget once we have. This might change if we go right up to the top-end of the ranges, where millions are being spent on unique and very limited run cars - but then, if buying from that end, does the money matter at all? For the most part, the "prestige" of cars is a scam to extract more value from people who could probably better spend the money to make real improvement in their lives. 

For example, my friend was saying that they spend about 400€ a month on car payments directly, without factoring in all the other costs. Had they kept their previous (near new) car, they would have this amount in their pocket. They could have been putting 200€ into their house loan to increase their capital reduction by 20% a month. And, they could have been investing 2500 a year into stocks, crypto, or some other generative investment. On one side, reducing debt, the other increasing wealth. At the point where the house is paid off, the wealth would be substantial. 

>Was the experience of the car worth it?

But, we make bad financial decisions, especially when we are "comfortable" enough to spend larger amounts. However, *larger amounts* is a relative term. For some, it is a luxury SUV, for others is it is the value of a handbag, for another still, it is a meal at a restaurant. Yet, all these amounts add up to take away opportunity from something else, *building wealth.*

Money isn't everything, but a great deal of the money we have is spent on what doesn't improve our lives. It isn't just the bills we face, and the poor quality food we consume, but so much of the consumer products and services are a hinderance to wellbeing, not a facilitator. Even the people caught in the narrative of "buying experience" don't seem to recognize, that most of what they are buying is an event, not a life. The experiences are short-lived, while the majority of our lives are lived in some kind of suffering.  Buying a better experience should really be one that improves us daily, not one that satiates us long enough to survive our normal lives. 

> Greed and calculation.

We are all greedy. We all greedily want our wants met. However, to be able to meet any of them, we first have to build our resources, to have the ability to buy what we want, whether it be in money, time, skill, or love. If we do not invest into building our resources, we have nothing to give to meet our needs. 

My friend is going through the calculations now, evaluating what they have, what they need and what they want, and working out where they can best spend the resources to satisfy their requirements. It is an opportunity to *evaluate* life, and recalibrate for what is important for an improved experience in this life.

>What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.
*Friedrich Nietzsche*

What doesn't improve us, is a waste.
*Me.*

Taraz
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@ak08 ·
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Owning a car in Singapore can be a real financial commitment, but we made the decision to have one for a mix of reasons. There's definitely a part of it that fulfills our *(my wife and i)* desire for convenience and mobility. However, a significant portion of this decision is out of necessity, primarily driven by my grandmother's wheelchair-bound condition. 

Providing her with the ability to get out and about is crucial for her well-being, and having our own mode of transport is the most comfortable and dignified way to do that. While public transportation is an option, we understand that it might not be the best choice for her, as she prefers a more private and less spotlighted experience. In the end, it's a choice that combines our wants and her needs, ensuring her comfort and independence.
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@tarazkp ·
>However, a significant portion of this decision is out of necessity, primarily driven by my grandmother's wheelchair-bound condition.

This makes sense. I have heard it is crazy expensive there to own a car. 

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@ak08 ·
Yeah it really is! On top of the cost of acquiring the car, there is a unique requirement in Singapore known as the Certificate of Entitlement (COE) that must be obtained by anyone who wishes to own a car in the country. These days, the cost of a COE is nearly equivalent to that of the car itself! What's more, it comes with a 10-year expiration period 😵
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@bozz ·
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My wife and I went and saw that movie last weekend. I agree, the run time was so long, but you didn't even realize it because it was so compelling. The story behind it is pretty awesome. I read that ahead of time so that made it even more interesting.  If I could buy the car I want it would probably be an Audi, but I will likely never be able to afford that.  I am just happy with something that gets me from point a to point b!
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@tarazkp ·
>I read that ahead of time so that made it even more interesting.


I wish I had a little more background. There were a few small things that came up that I think an American would have known, but I had to guess at. Nothing critical though perhaps.

>If I could buy the car I want it would probably be an Audi, 

Interestingly, the SUV is a Q7.
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@bozz ·
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The guy went with every intent to tell the story of the Osage Indians, but didn't realize the main plot of the whole thing until he got down there and started interviewing people. From that point on, his whole perspective changed as did the plot.
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@cryptictruth ·
Car are not an investment they are liability. I hate seeing people over leveraging themselves on cars and houses. 
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@devpress ·
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> Money isn't everything, but a great deal of the money we have is spent on what doesn't improve our lives.

What I have experienced is that more money you have more it is being used to keep some threat elements  away from you. But that is just my experience. Money makes us live among more mentally safe locale than the time when you hustle and be opening towards any type of people. Have you experienced like this or it's just me?
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@tarazkp · (edited)
I think for many, one of the biggest "threats" is based on how *they think* other people see them. 

In Finland, pretty much everywhere is safe. 
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@ducecrypto ·
It was so painful watching my car of 14 years get hauled away last July. We had been through so much together. 2 marriages, 40 US states, too many cross country road trips to count, and even a few excursions to Canada and Niagara Falls. I got tremendous value for my Ellie the (Honda) Element. An original 2003 model, bought for $8K cash in 2009 with 40K miles, two days after purchase I packed it up with our stuff in Manhattan and drove it down to Austin, TX. I spent 10 amazing years in Austin, then Denver, then Phoenix, before returning home to NYC.

I can't even bring myself to think about another car. Luckily, since I'm in a major metropolis with extensive public transport, a car is not needed -- it is a luxury. In fact, if I had a proper place to keep my car, I likely would not have ever sold it. But the sad truth is that there was nowhere to keep it and I wasn't paying for the mandatory monthly insurance because I had no need to drive it much at all. While there are some days that I wish I still had the utility of a car of my own, it is a moot point since I cannot legally drive in New York state (too many tickets). For now, I will wait for an electric car maybe when I leave NYC, but in the short term it is just a subway card for me!

Very thankful to both of my ex wives and our lwayer-free divorces that I got to keep the car without any hassle or remuneration on their part. I even spend the better part of 2 years in btwn Denver and Pheonix living out of Ellie the Element as a camper van. I miss those minimalist free-wheeling days. Such a fun time of my life!
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@duskobgd ·
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It's all a matter of possibility... 
My brother, who lives in Scotland, bought a new car at the beginning of the year (he signed a leasing contract with an agency), he decided on a luxury Lexus SUV, I don't know exactly which model, but the car is beautiful. 
When I asked him why he buys such an expensive car, he told me: "I look around the streets, the same model is mostly driven by older people, women and men, grandmothers and grandfathers. They probably fulfill all other obligations at that age, pay off the house, go to school and move the children away, so they can afford something they like and love. I want it while I'm young and I still have the will to drive because I drive such a nice and comfortable car. I won't wait until I'm old to drive a Lexus. And I don't have a problem with income". I couldn't give a different answer to such a comment, other than: "Enjoy, be happy and drive well...". 
I watched a show of a futuristic thinking about the CaaS (Car as a Service) project. How crowded are the cities, and how expensive are the cars, and with the fact that, unless we are taxi drivers or if we do our work by car, we use them 3 to 5% of the time a year, it is by no means profitable to own one... With CaaS, with a smart car, without a driver (classic Taxi), costs are drastically reduced. You pay only as much as the vehicle is used. No costs for parking, vehicle maintenance. The only question is when this can go live...
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@tarazkp ·
> I won't wait until I'm old to drive a Lexus.

The question is, what does it matter though? That is what we should be exploring. Why does driving a car make us feel good, yet we might not be putting attention into our relationships with people we love. It is not all about money, is it? I feel we have been conditioned to want certain things, and "buying it" is easier, than building it. So we find happiness through buying when we can, but it is an endless game. 

>I watched a show of a futuristic thinking about the CaaS (Car as a Service) project.

Self-driving cars change so much in this regard. I have written a couple posts about it back in probably 2018, will look later. But yes, it makes sense and then, owners of cars lease them out, but still have access when they need. Most people won't need to own. And, inner city design changes too, because they can "wait" outside the cities, easing traffic flow immensely. It completely changes the supply and demand of cars - do you think car companies really want less cars demanded? Oil companies?   
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@fieryfootprints ·
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>Cars are such a terrible purchase.

 I guess still better than a plane... 

>A bad decision they made was to trade in a very nice and comfortable sedan, and buy a luxury SUV partially financed. 

I wonder how much hive your friend could have bought had he kept the sedan. I imagine that he would become orca in a single day...
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@tarazkp ·
>I guess still better than a plane...

Probably!

>I wonder how much hive your friend could have bought had he kept the sedan. I imagine that he would become orca in a single day...

The difference is around half a whale. If buying at the dip, a full whale. 
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@jfang003 ·
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I think it depends on where you are. In the US, I don't like the public transportation and driving is way better. So it was worth the cost for me and I don't want to pay extra for something like Uber or Lyft. In a way, it depends but financing luxury goods is always a bad thing. It's better to go with something more reasonable according to your own budget.
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@tarazkp ·
Yes, it depends a lot on local conditions. However, the type of car also matters. In the US, cars are generally cheaper than in Finland. For instance, the car that this person drives starts from 95K€ ($100K) here, but in the US it is $59K. Then there are the taxes and fuel costs on top. For instance, we are paying the equivalent of $7.50 per gallon for basic fuel. 
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@outwars ·
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This reminds me of a common saying: "Once a new car leaves a dealership, it already depreciates almost half of its value". Of course this is exaggerated, some say it is only 10 percent as soon as it leaves, and about 20 percent per year. But at the end of the day, cars are not a good investment, and just lose you money most of the time. If you are in a place with good public transportation [Japan/Singapore], cars are not necessary. Although if you have a family, there are arguments on getting a car. But getting a luxury SUV is usually not ideal.

I hope your friend gets everything worked out. 
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@tarazkp ·
Someone I know watched a woman take delivery of her new Nissan, drive it out from the lot and have it get hit by a truck... That would suck!

I wish I didn't need a car, but I do for multiple reasons. However, I am pretty sensible with what I drive. For people cruising around a city - who needs an SUV?
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@outwars ·
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> drive it out from the lot and have it get hit by a truck

Oof. That would suck a lot. You can see the money go down the drain.

> For people cruising around a city - who needs an SUV?

I guess people that want to stand out or weirdos haha
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@rafzat · (edited)
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RE: What doesn't Kill
Everyone wants to have cars and the ones who have been using have gotten used to it to the point of not wanting to use public transportation. 
Truth be told, cars are expensive and even fueling your car, servicing it or spending money on it is also expensive. Car is a liability aside from the fact that you are earning from it 
Your friend should just buy one that is not really expensive and that will not cost too much money when it needs a repair
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@tarazkp ·
He is looking to downsize his car considerably. 
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@santigs ·
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I completely agree with you. Purchasing a new expensive car is probably one of the worst financial decisions as it loses its value considerably right after you leave the dealer shop. I am also a pretty frugal person with many of my purchasing decisions but sometimes, when I talk to friends who prefer to enjoy their life spending what they earn it makes me reflect. 

It is a bad or a good decision to enjoy your life spending most of your money on weekends, vacations, or even daily activities leaving almost nothing to invest is it better to keep your wealth to have a better life after retirement?

I guess it all depends on how one is, how comfortable is with his own life, and probably how many experiences have had purchasing expensive stuff which at the end of the day does the same job as a regular one.
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@tarazkp ·
>Purchasing a new expensive car is probably one of the worst financial decisions as it loses its value considerably right after you leave the dealer shop

This is used, and they still have to pay on it! :D That is how big the difference was.

I think it is good to enjoy life, but what does that mean in terms of *consuming goods* ? Is having an *above average* car enjoying life?
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@videoaddiction · (edited)
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I also think that purchasing a car might not be a right investment today. Even if it stands in the garage or somewhere near the house, it also costs considerably high amount in recent years. The first reasons of this  situation are the high gas and insurance prices.
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@tarazkp ·
High gas, high insurance, high tax, high storage, high maintenance... everything is "supersized" now. 
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