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Hive: Network Without Centralized Exchanges
It is time to ignore the [centralized exchanges (CEX)](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-centralized-exchange-cex).

There is a part of the community that Hive should focus on getting listed with some of the centralized exchanges.  After all, how can the [ecosystem](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-ecosystem-digital) grow if people cannot get to hold of the coin?

This is a valid question and presumes the CEX is the only way to achieve this.  Based upon what is taking place, the reality is appearing that the best approach is to ignore the centralized exchanges completely.  If one picks up [HIVE](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-usdhive), so be it.  Nevertheless, this could be asking for more trouble than it is worth.

Certainly, many would have an easier time if HIVE was listed on something like [Coinbase](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-coinbase).  However, is it worth the trouble?  In this article we will investigate this and how we can work around it.

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## Regulation

There is no doubt [regulation](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-regulation) is coming.  Whether it is the United States or EU, both are working through the process of developing bills that will eventually oversee this industry.  The problem is that regulation tends not to favor the average person.

At the same time, [cryptocurrency](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/cryptocurrency) does not require [government](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-government) approval to flourish.  Sure, it can be an impediment but that only will last so long.

When it comes to Hive, the reality is that it is off the grid, hence not in the regulators focus.  That said, it is best to keep it that way, at least for a while.

Indications are that [stablecoins](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-stablecoin) will be the first to be pulled under government oversight.  This is likely going to require issuers to have a banking license, at least in the U.S.  It is also going to favor [asset backed securities](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-asset-backed-securities-abs) as compared to [algorithmic](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-algorithm).  This means that the Hive Backed Dollar (HBD) is likely going to be banned from CEX anyway.

Because of this, HIVE might get caught up in it.  Even if it isn't why rock the boat.  People need to keep CEX in proper focus.

The only reason to use a CEX is as an on or off ramp for [fiat currency](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-fiat-currency).  After what happened in 2022, it is evident that keep money on a CEX, especially crypto is foolish.  [Digital assets](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-digital-assets), at this point, are not protected.  They becomes property of the company and the owner is a plaintiff in the [bankruptcy.](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-bankruptcy)

## Vehicle Currency

For now, the only safe coin based upon the decisions by the regulators is Bitcoin.  The [Securities and Exchange  Commission (SEC)](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-securities-and-exchange-commission-sec) has asserted this, providing a window of safety.  Over time, we might see other [coins](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-coins) dropped into that basket like [Litecoin](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-litecoin) or Ethereum.  Nevertheless, projection in this manner could be inaccurate.

That makes Bitcoin a [vehicle currency](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-vehicle-currency).  It can be used for crypto-to-fiat (and vice versa) swaps.  Hive coins only need to be able to tap into [Bitcoin](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-bitcoin) to facilitate what people need.

Here is where our first key focus needs to enter.  

Hive should concentrate on building direct swaps to Bitcoin.  This can come in the form of a [DEX](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-decentralized-finance-defi) or [liquidity pools](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-liquidity-pool-lp).  Preferably there would be multiple options for the holders of the Hive coins (HIVE and HBD).  This would also help in pricing since [arbitrage](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-arbitrage) opportunities would open up.

What this means is liquidity is vital.  When looking at [currency](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-currency), this is a crucial factor.  Liquidity levels have to be such that it can handle whatever is desired.  This is why cryptocurrency is far lagging [TradFi](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-tradfi).  There is no way to move $100 billion like major [financial institutions](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-financial-institution) do in markets such as Repo.  We simply are not at that level.

By the same token, the ability to move $10M-$20M in HIVE is going to be required.  While soglossary-transaction) anytime soon, the ability to complete it is necessary.omeone might not do such a large [transaction](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/le

Here is a bit of foreshadowing: this is going to be a major use case for HIVE.  We often discuss the need for [resource credits](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-resource-credits-rc) and how it is an access token.  Another vital use case is to provide liquidity for entry into, and out of, the ecosystem.

Having a deep HIVE-BTC pool is a tremendous starting point.

## Building Value

Many mistakenly focus upon the idea that massive inflows of fiat currency is required to make the prices of cryptocurrency go up.  This is the approach the US government is taking.  It is also wrong.

To start, price is not value.  This is one area where we can offer an alternative.  Yes we do need outside inflow but it doesn't have to be fiat currency.  In fact, users are really what is going to push value higher.  We often discuss the [network effect](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-network-effect) and the impact that can have.

We also have the ability to swap other cryptocurrency into HIVE.  While the entire system might need the influx of [cash](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-cash), people simply acquiring HIVE by using other digital assets serves the purpose we need.

It is true that, for the moment, Hive is a bit of an island.  This is because we lack the ability to easily interact with other currencies.  Focusing attention upon those pools that can get Hive to reach further is vital.  Bitcoin is the most logical choice for reasons mentioned above.

Fortunately, there are plans to develop this.  Hopefully we will see something appearing by the end of the year.  

## Access Points

The key to all this is access points.  

Cryptocurrency has another advantage.  Because it can be a [medium of exchange](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-medium-of-exchange), we can see people accepting it as payment for [goods](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-goods-economic) and services.  This is a difference when compared to the original Operation Choke Point.  We already see [businesses](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-business) in Venezuela accepting HBD and HIVE as [payment](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-payment).

This can occur through both finance and [commerce](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-commerce).

At the same time, massive growth and valuation around crypto-based projects can occur.  This increases the [wealth](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-wealth) tied to the industry, creating another circular feedback loop.  Once this escalates, the value in fiat grows, allowing for the acquisition for the goods and services mentioned.


In the end, a lot of this can be fed into HIVE.  This is the path that we can develop completely outside the centralized exchanges.



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@alex-rourke ·
> the best approach is to ignore cengralized exchanges completely

We should aim for this, but we're definitely not there yet.   There are *some* options fortunately, but we still need deeper liquidity.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
True we arent there yet.

Other than getting into and out of fiat, there are usually alternatives.

We just need more growth.

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@bitcoinman ·
This is an incredible post and I really appreciate everything you are doing for the community and beyond, keep up the good work! Fiat got people confused and they only see value in the wrong thing, money and it's just a value transfer tool,  there are lots of other types  of value that can't be transacted, for instance if someone stumbled on your blog post and was inspired and maybe it put them on this new better path, now thats for value and its not a monetary transaction its a life changing one.
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@joetunex ·
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It makes sense to bridge Hive:BTC HBD:BTC relationship through DEX with Bitcoin acting as the vehicle cryptocurrency. Hive hasn't been attractive to some out there because it appears to be operating alone with just 2 or 3 listings on CEXs, it is a situation we should appreciate as it keeps Hive off the attacks of regulations, etc. while we focus on expanding the ecosystem. 

We observe, learn from the mistake of others and build, the situation of things looks to be favoring Hive. 
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@taskmaster4450le ·
We are going to see some things built throughout the second half of the year.  I am not sure how much is actually completed by year end but these are issues people are addressing.

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@leonordomonol ·
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Great article. The main, all-encompassing problem with CeX, and what Web3 promises to solve, is the continuing regulatory body's annoying intervention within crypto. This translate to the form of the end user having to reveal their ID and other confidentials to exchanges that have no reason to uphold their secrecy when their governments shove them around. 

I think we won't have to take the fiat-to-crypto route anymore when tokenization gains traction, and any sort of interaction within the Web3 ecosystem becomes monetized. We would still have to establish channels for liquidity though, but for the most part, ecosystems are going to be self-sustaining. 
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@taskmaster4450le ·
There is certainly a need for fiat to crypto connection since that is the on and off ramps.  There is little commerce done in crypto, hence making the conversion to fiat necessary.

However, we can see the crypto space grow larger.

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@mercadomaestro ·
Very valid points brought up here, Taskmaster. I think having a viable, deep HIVE-BTC LP and a separate HBD-BTC LP could be a huge boost for enabling the use of Hive to transact from Bitcoin, as well as facilitating swaps. @brianoflondon has HiveLightning, but what you're suggesting would need way more liquidity
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@offgridlife ·
My favourite exchange for Hive is Ionomy.com …. Https://Ionomy.com
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@strawberrry ·
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Thank you for the valuable information, I learned a lot of new things for myself.
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@takhar ·
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CEXs would only be a short term solution because they will eventually be heavily regulated making them change their procedures altogether. Building liquidity pools with other major cryptocurrencies and bringing more value to the coins is the path to a self-sustaining network. 
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@ugochill · (edited)
At the moment if we talk about trading..well..Hive engine market became cesspool of bot accounts, and while same thing is on CEX's as well..there at least you have liquidity, while here we have bot accounts with literary zero HP, owning the trades and draining Hive's.
If that is how decentralization looks like? Looks very centralized to me.
Plenty of room to develop, at the moment with all the risks, trading on CEX's makes more sense.
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@vimukthi ·
There are centralized exchanges leaving countries like Canada and Australia due to the regulatory environment. I don't think that will be enough to keep the people away. It will only slow down adoption. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YFtNHfGrw

Tokens already linked to $HIVE such as $SPS $LEO $CUB $POLYCUB and various NFT projects like @splinterlands are another pathway for investors to arrive on HIVE.  They could convert part of their gaming rewards into HIVE. 
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@wrestlingdesires ·
Buying listings is one of the biggest gambles in crypto. More so than buying tokens and putting them in a wallet. That exchange listing which cost a fortune could be gone the next day as if it never existed...

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@zaibkang ·
It will take time to get rid from centralized exchanges completely, because right now we can swap or exchange any cryptocurrency with another one but at the end we still need to convert finally into Fiat 
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