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Web 3.0 And The Value Of Hive Described by taskmaster4450

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Web 3.0 And The Value Of Hive Described
Often we come across people talking about Hive without realizing it.  In this situation, we have an individual who was describing the value of a [network](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-network).  It was in reference to Reddit and what is taking place with that [social media](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-social-media) platform.

For those who are not aware, there is a move by the owner of Reddit to prepare for an IPO.  The idea is to take the company public and cash out.  This is a common practice so nothing really novel here.

What is interesting is the steps being taken.  The platform raised fees, is not allowing users to delete data, and, according to charges in the video are breaking the law.

When going through this video, the idea of [Web 3.0](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-web-3-0) and Hive kept coming to mind.


![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/taskmaster4450/23wzWraiKdEjhdgPftoHjamEgKyVyKTv4v6g5qP4r99zE46p2cMDyvb4Bym9PvzJcbHTt.png)

<center>[Source](https://www.cmarix.com/blog/how-web-3-0-will-change-our-internet-habits-completely/)</center>

## Where The Value Resides

In this video, the speaker really dives into the value of Reddit.  By this, we are not referring to the [valuation](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-valuation).  Instead, he is opining of what makes a social media network successful.  This is something that we discuss quite frequently but the mainstream really doesn't cover it.

Here is the video.  It is worth the time to go through it.

https://youtu.be/mfZKkUg8jgM

Isn't that interesting?

The company is trying to keep people from erasing their data.  What is the reason?  Because that is what has value.  It is the [database](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-database) that was accrued over all those years.

That is exactly what we say about Hive.  The fact we are dealing with a decentralized, [immutable](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-immutable) database has value on the open [market](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-market).

Another interesting aspect to this discussion is the fact the members are the ones who provide said data.  The company has no value without the users.  On Hive we use the term "community" but we are talking about the same thing.

Essentially, this is exemplifying the difference between [Web 2.0](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-web-2-0) and Web 3.0.

Of course, when (if) [Reddit](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-reddit) goes public, will the users get anything for their years of contribution growing the [business](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-business)?  Of course not.  Sure they are free to buy the [stock](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-stocks) once it hits the open market but that is all.

The owner and [venture capital](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-venture-capital-vc) providers will likely cash out in a big way while the ones who provide the value get nothing financially.

Typical Web 2.0.

## The Backlash

Users are now revolting.  There is backlash against Reddit trying to destroy its value.  This is in the form of users trying to delete [accounts](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-account) and remove said data from their database.

We can see the dance taking place as the company is trying to stop this.  Here we also see another important factor raised: [Silicon Valley](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-silicon-valley) tech companies believe the [data](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-data) is theirs.  It is not in their thought process that it belongs to the user.  After all, they built the platform and captured it all.

Obviously, this is a debate outside the scope of this article.  The main point is Web 3.0 ends this debate since the data is housed on a [blockchain](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/blockchain).  It is a situation where the data, if decentralized, is not owned by anyone. People posting place it on a public forum that resides on many different servers around the world.  These are all controlled by uncorrelated people.

Will the backlash be effective.  This is hard to guess.  A more important question is whether this will get people to start thinking about alternatives?  This is not likely the case since we know most tend to fall into the same behavior.

Nevertheless, this is a talking point for Web 3.0.  If this battle continues for a while, it will be one for social media history.  That means we can see this as an example of what needs to be avoided.

Real world examples are vital to the cause we are putting forth.  Often, before people will switch, they have to realize they are in pain.  The fact that the users built the value for Reddit and now are being left dry should be eye opening.  Of course, this took place with every social media company out there.  [Elon Musk](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-elon-musk) is going to get richer the more [Twitter](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-twitter) develops.  Users do not seem to care.

For the moment, the ones on Reddit do.  They are the first who might be awakening to what is truly taking place.

## Building Hive

While it would be great to bring over 500,000 users from Reddit immediately, Hive simply has to keep building.  This seems like a boring process but it is the case.

Each post that is on Web 3.0 is one removed from the traditional social media sites.  This applies to [Facebook](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-facebook), [YouTube](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-youtube), and Twitter.  If we can capture even a couple users from Reddit, that is a minor shift.

This is a marathon.  Reddit will likely go public with a [market capitalization](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-market-capitalization) in the billions.  Our task is to keep building the value of Hive.

How is this done?  As pointed out in the video, it is the data that is placed [on-chain](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-on-chain).  That is the real value that makes social media companies worth what they are.  To achieve this, we need to present userbase active.

Situations like this exemplify the need for Web 3.0.  And, to me, Hive is at the foundation of this.

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@aftersound ·
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I think Hive is slowly getting there. We just need more apps and more development on the apps currently in existence. There will be another bull run in the future and my hope is that there will be more than just Splinterlands drawing people into Hive.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
I would agree.  Slowly getting there is something I can live with  Me need more UI work done, without a doubt.  Smart contract platforms, as mentioned above, are vital.

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@brianoflondon ·
Thank you for your support before, will you support now?
My previous @v4vapp proposal has expired. I have a new one which is running but unfunded right now. I'm still running @v4vapp and all my other services.

I've just updated [v4v.app](https://v4v.app) and I'm getting ready for some exciting new features after the next hard fork.

Please consider asking your friends to vote for [prop #265](https://peakd.com/me/proposals/265) or consider [unvoting the return vote](https://peakd.com/me/proposals/0).

For understandable reasons in the current crypto climate it is harder to get funded by the DHF, I accept this so I'm asking a wider audience for help again. I'll also add that I power up Hive every day and usually power up larger amounts on 1st of the Month. I'm on Hive for ideological reasons much more than for only economic benefit.

- [Proposal 265 on PeakD](https://peakd.com/me/proposals/265)
- [Proposal 265 with Hivesigner](https://hivesigner.com/sign/update-proposal-votes?proposal_ids=%5B265%5D&approve=true)
- [Proposal 244 on Ecency](https://ecency.com/proposals/265)

Additionally you can also help with a [vote for Brianoflondon's Witness using KeyChain or HiveSigner](https://vote.hive.uno/@brianoflondon)

If you have used [v4v.app](https://v4v.app/) I'd really like to hear your feedback, and if you haven't I'd be happy to hear why or whether there are other things you want it to do.
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@icebreak-r ·
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If anything someone needs to just design a way for Hive accounts to be created with every major social media site.

LeoFinance has already created a way to sign up using email or Twitter account which is great but imagine if you could sign up using a Reddit account, Discord, Telegram or Facebook even. That would immensely grow the onboarding capability of our community moving forward.

By the way we would love to invite you to start tagging these kinds of posts with the #BRK hashtag to boost the rewards and earn some IceBreak tokens. We are a DeFi, crypto, NFT, blockchain and web3 focused tribe.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
A lot of things that we can do to make it easier on people to sign up.  That is the first layer.

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@jimmy.adames ·
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If this is not as wide-eyed opening to folks then nothing will @taskmaster4450 and it's basically across the board on Web2 social media platforms. Redditors backlash is going to get ugly.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
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It is shaping up to be that way.  We are seeing more people getting upset.  The longer something like that goes on, the worse the overall impact.  Many feel these things pass quickly.  Bud Light is learning that isnt always the case.

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@takhar ·
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Reddit users are realizing that all the work they've put on building the platform will not be rewarded when the IPO happens. It's a wake up call for web 2.0 social media users as it shows that their content s valuable although they neccesarily don't own it once they post it on the platform. They're looking for something that already exists here on Hive. 
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@taskmaster4450le ·
That is true.  They are looking for something like Hive.  That said, Hive needs a lot of work.  We are still dealing with nothing more than a framework.  Smart contract platforms are vital.  And some more UI work is needed.

Leo might be doing the latter.  We will see.

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@takhar ·
We indeed need to put in a more work to get into respectable standards. I think on the social media front, having a good and intuitive UI will be very important to attract and retain new users. 
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@torran ·
!PGM
!PIZZA
!CTP
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@pgm-curator ·
<center>Sent 0.1 PGM - 0.1 LVL- 1 STARBITS  - 0.05 DEC - 1 SBT - 0.1 THG - 0.000001 SQM - 0.1 BUDS - 0.01 WOO tokens </center>

<center><sub>remaining commands 8</sub></center>


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