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1.75 Million LEO Needed In Pools by taskmaster4450le

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1.75 Million LEO Needed In Pools

Things are changing on [LEO](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-leo).


The introduction of [LeoDex](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglosary-leodex) is altering a lot of things, especially our approaches to the platform.  What this means is we have to look at the [token](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-token) in a much different way as compared to before.


In this [article](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-article) we will go through what this entails.  We will also cover how this could really start to move the token [price](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-price) higher.


# Leo Pools Require 1.75 Million tokens


My estimate is we need roughly 10% of the total [circulating supply](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-circulating-supply) in the two pools.  This includes both the LEO/SWAP.HIVE diesel pool along with LEO/CACAO on Maya.  It is the latter that got most of the attention but the former is also worthy of discussion.


There is always a fine line between scarcity and creating [liquidity](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-liquidity).  This is especially true for a [value capture token](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-value-capture-token).  Over the [years](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-year), the idea was to lock up as much LEO as we could, making the number available on the [market](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-market) scarce.  The idea is to put the price higher.


Unfortunately, as [crypto](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/cryptocurrency) has repeatedly proven, this is backwards.  When it comes to tokens like this, a parallel is [stocks](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-stocks).  Do we not see stocks go up in price when [companies](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-company-business) announce a split?  Why does that happen?  The reason is because people have more [shares](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-share-stock) in a growing enterprise.


Why do they not do the equivalent of a burn?  This is called a reverse and, most [times](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-time), when this happens, it is done by a company that is diving.  It is nothing more than market maneuvering trying to pump the price.


From my perspective, we have seen this repeatedly in crypto.


With Leo, that could be changing.  Here we have some a legitimate design that is changing the direction of things.


## [Vehicle currency](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-vehicle-currency)


It was discussed how LeoDex is going to be a ramp either into or out of the Hive [ecosystem](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-ecosystem-digital).  This includes the [Hive-Engine](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-hive-engine) tokens.  


To achieve this, there are two pools which are essential to the operation.  They were listed above.  Here is where liquidity is required.


LEO is now a vehicle [currency](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-currency).  It is the [asset](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-asset) that carries value from Hive to Maya (and in reverse).  Anyone who wants to span these two chains has to use LEO.


This is similar to how the [US Dollar](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-u-s-dollar) operates internationally.  A Korean supplier will invoice a Mexican distribution in [USD](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-usd).  Why?  The Mexican company doesn't have won and the Koreans don't want pesos.  Hence, the US dollar is the vehicle between the two entities (actually their banks).


LEO is doing the same thing.


Do you want [BTC](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-btc) for your SPS?  It requires LEO.  Is there a desire to get HIVE using ETH?  LEO is involved.  Want some RUNE for your HBD?  LEO again.


This is provides enormous utility.


## LEO Diesel Pool


A lot of discussion took place regarding the [liquidity pool](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-liquidity-pool-lp) on Maya.


Here is a snapshot of the current pool:


 https://img.inleo.io/DQmdR3EVowPsS7SvjrHpuxHgYrRpPotKjS3A6SZUEvhhFsK/image.png 


At the present pricing, with $50K in the pool (LEO portion) this means there are almost 472K tokens.  This is a strong start.  Remember, anything going from Maya to HIVE has to pass through this pool.


The challenge is we are likely to see as much, if not more, heading the other direction.  This is why the diesel pool requires a lot of attention.


Here is a snapshot of this:


<center>  https://img.inleo.io/DQmRrWsaidApTZbkhnSboVejNrLJhEZufWmgxaF9CEkBTZY/image.png </center>


We see there is roughly 195K LEO in this pool.  Combine the two and we are looking at around 630K.  That means we need 1.1 million more LEO to be placed into these pools.


This is where the community needs to step up.  Liquidity is crucial if we want the activity to increase.  We cannot handle a $50K order going either in or out of Hive.  The diesel pool is only at $37.5 right now.  To handle larger amounts requires more liquidity.


We also have to factor [slippage](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-slippage).  When a pool is deeper, there is less slippage on each [trade](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-trade).  When that is minimized, trading tends to increase since the percentage of the entire [transaction](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-transaction) lost declines.


## Diesel Pool Breakdown


We have a couple problems that we must [address](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-address).


The first is in the number of people are have provided liquidity.  The number is barely over 100.  We have to increase this significantly.


Here is a screenshot from Beeswap showing the bottom of the providers.  As we can see, 103 in total.


 https://img.inleo.io/DQmfKdA1ScbL4nQWUqAqiyrrfZUwZn1JveqV4WQJwGmtHQC/image.png 


Unfortunately, it gets worse.


Look at the percentage the top two providers are holding:


 https://img.inleo.io/DQmeGxPZ9W2Qq4mHiY4nXrB9ucN7V89bc7D2QYUENjpYhSA/image.png 


They account for 68.5% of the pool.  This is a large number that could cause issues if that was pulled out.  For this reason, we need more liquidity from a larger number of users.


Once again, this is the challenge put forth to the community.  Each person holding LEO has a vested [interest](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-interest) in the success here.


Personally, I have a fair bit of liquid LEO that is going to end up in the diesel pool.  For now, I will [swap](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-swap-financial) a bit each [day](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-day) so as not to crash the price.  Over time, I will keep increasing the liquidity I provide.


That said, others need to follow suit.


In the diesel pool, liquidity providers are paid based upon the fees.  Hence, transactions can increase in [volume](https://inleo.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-volume) (and amount) the more liquidity that is in there.  This will mean more fees aka a greater return.


Of course, the pools operate in USD.  That means that an increase in LEO price only enhances the value of the pools (the same is true for the pair).  Having the price of LEO increasing will help both pools.


For this reason, LEO as a vehicle currency can add a great deal of value.  This means adding more to the mix so that is can facilitate more transactions.


The onus is now on the community.


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@bitcoinflood ·
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I think one reason why LEO and other tokens like this struggle a bit to get large amounts of liquidity is because there's that zero risk option to already get about 11% APR on your token simply for staking it. So unless there's a BIG reason to push outside of that with a much higher APR for the risk it seems not worth it. Right now those APRs are looking healthy though. I'm extra excited for the SPS and DEC pools if those get promoted I think it's going to get a ton of volume there. 
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@taskmaster4450le ·
The return goes up the more active the pools are since it is based upon trading activity.

But you are right.  It is also the short term thinking of people.  What can I get out of it now.

Amazing, these same people ask "when moon".
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@oldtimer ·
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After bad experiences with Splinterlands tokens,cub, polycub, wleo, lbi, etc...m people lost trust in the teams and projects.
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@outwars ·
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If I'm not mistaken spswhale is also aggroed's account. So 2/3 of the pool is under a single person's control. I agree that we do need more liquidity. I have seen some posts discussing about it, so I hope we get more.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
That would be my guess.  It needs to be changed.
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@shawnnft ·
woah 1.75m. that's a crazy amount lol. even i only have few hundreds which are staked D:
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@typebox ·
As each member of the community holds a stake in LEO's success, collective efforts to enhance liquidity will undoubtedly contribute to a thriving ecosystem. Your dedication serves as an inspiration for others to follow suit, ultimately driving the platform towards greater prosperity.
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@yeckingo1 ·
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It is difficult to evaluate how much you earn with fees in order to make an investment decision.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
The more transactions, the more you can make.

It is a business decision.  Dont companies have to make that same assessment?

Or how much am I going to make off Bitcoin?  I have no idea what the coin will be worth in a year?  Yet people buy BTC all the time and make the investment decision to get into it.
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