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UBI 101: Political Whims
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Governments change over time.  Political parties alter the landscape all the time.

One of the drawbacks to UBI through the government is that it can be leveraged by political parties for their own end.  Even worse, the bureaucrats, who are un-elected, like to flex their muscle.

In this video, I discuss some of the drawbacks to UBI through the government.

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@ai-summaries ·
**Summary:**
In this video, Taskmaster 4450 discusses Universal Basic Income (UBI) and the potential drawbacks associated with it, particularly focusing on the aspect of government control. He expresses concerns about how UBI could be used as a political tool by the government to manipulate and control the population. Taskmaster 4450 highlights examples such as the cannabis industry in the United States to illustrate the potential consequences of being dependent on government assistance. He warns about the dangers of becoming politically subservient through a UBI system, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of unintended consequences. Taskmaster 4450 stresses the importance of structuring UBI in a way that protects individuals from government overreach and manipulation.

**Detailed Article:**
Taskmaster 4450 delves into the topic of Universal Basic Income (UBI) in this video, shedding light on the potential pitfalls associated with this concept. He focuses on the aspect of government control, stating that current discussions around UBI suggest that the government would be responsible for distributing the income. Taskmaster 4450 expresses his apprehension about this arrangement, as it effectively places individuals under the authority of the government, subjecting them to potential political whims and manipulations.

The video delves into the notion that the government's composition and policies can change due to elections, political shifts, and varying ideologies. Taskmaster 4450 asserts that being reliant on the government for basic income could lead to individuals being coerced into compliance with governmental mandates, which could potentially infringe on personal freedoms and beliefs. Illustrating this point, he brings up the example of the discrepancy between state and federal laws regarding the cannabis industry in the United States, highlighting the challenges faced by businesses operating in this space due to conflicting regulations.

Furthermore, Taskmaster 4450 expresses concerns about the possibility of UBI being weaponized by the government to control the population. He warns that individuals receiving basic income could be manipulated into following specific governmental directives, regardless of personal convictions or preferences. Taskmaster 4450 argues that this level of dependence on the government could result in individuals becoming mere political pawns, susceptible to exploitation for political gain.

The video concludes with Taskmaster 4450 emphasizing the need for cautious consideration of the unintended consequences that could arise from implementing UBI. He underscores the risk of individuals losing agency and autonomy if subjected to governmental control through a UBI system. Taskmaster 4450 advocates for a careful structuring of UBI to ensure that individuals are safeguarded against government overreach and manipulation. The video sets the stage for the next installment, where he plans to delve into the economic implications of UBI, providing a comprehensive analysis of this complex and multifaceted topic.
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@mykos ·
Yes, i watched the content and i had some input. So, i started off talking about UBI going on 3 years now. I was advocating for it and speaking on it pre Andrew Yang i believe? Or atleast before he hit mainstream media and i knew anything about him. I dived deep into the complexities of UBI, i've listened to the greatest economist in the world on it.. who support it or don't. I don't know if it's an area of UBI i haven't studied extensively. If it is i'd be surprised.

So i've no doubt heard the point you're making now quite a bit. So almost like a autoscript my brain just kicks in oh okay we're going here. I think first i'd just say i agree with some of the points you raised. I'd say that i always start off my UBI conversations saying something to the sound of.. hey we've created now some of the best technology in the world. I'd prefer UBI be done on the blockchain and not at the government level. I think i could raise even more concerns than some your video does. However, the reality is more than likely UBI will occur at the government level before it really gets adoption on the blockchain. I think it will work on the blockchain however i just don't think it will pull the punch until the government does it with shortcomings and the blockchain communities figure out how to do it better. Similar to what's happening with our financial system today.

So let's get to your first whim or concern. The weaponization of ubi for political gain. So in our political system we've seen where programs administered through government can be used to control the actions of citizens or fear of being removed from the programs. This could follow along the lines of social security, welfare systems, housing and public needs programs.. whatever. So you step out of line and you get removed etc.,

It's a few assumptions raised here. The first is you've presented an either or situation which it is not in most modern day UBI ideas that's been expressed. As to say, the assumption is everyone receiving UBI would need or be destitute for UBI. That's not what UBI is. What that is.. refers to a welfare state program. So this is the confusion about UBI. UBI. is (universal). So that means the rich get it. the not so rich. the dirt poor .. the middle class. So i think the proper term should be citizen's dividend..As UBI is erroneously confused for a needy program for the poor. 

So to have government control over ubi suggests that everyone needs to opt into ubi. The other thing is many ideas of ubi are opt in. UBI would be totally independent of social and welfare programs and taxes. So much of the time people present the either or situation. As to say everyone has stopped working and depend on their UBI check monthly. If they dont receive it they go down. lol. So that's erroneous because it assumes several things.

First it assumes that UBI people have no ambition for employment. Don't have jobs or another means to support themselves. They just sit around waiting on the UBI check every month. So now they are for some reason unable to do whatever they did before and so now the government can make all the rules and control their destiny. So that's the first error.

The second error is you have to opt in. If i attend public school. They require children to be vaccinated. There are several options now for people and children in schools that they don't have to get vaccinated as they don't attend public schools.

Another thing i'd point out is UBI has been presented by certain political parties as some type of socialism. So UBI automatically becomes some liberal idea and anti UBI rhetoric often becomes some far right conservative idea. We just covered in the paragraph above why that's inaccurate but it's also a bit nonsensical.

So if you consider social security has been deemed by i'd venture to say many at this point as good. It was always presented as something that wont be around .. that was in fear of being cut by political party x... That we should privatize it .. etc., and my belief is social security has prevailed and continued because it became seen as a necessary and good idea and not a political onesided idea. Maybe UBI at some point in the future is seen the same way.

I think what's important here is if we believe in recessions and great depressions are looming or ocming our way. If we believe that we're going to need solutions. Simply saying well UBI is a bad idea won't be good enough. Many of us think it will be necessary. If not UBI then what? Are we suppose to trust some politicians statistics who wants to win elections and in some cases only cares about that more than reality? Should we be finding solutions to a possible automation problem that only makes the fire bigger it certain doesn't help in a future of possible job displacement i don't see how a human can compete at all. So are we just backing up political ideas and agendas or are we really trying to find solutions here.

Alot of Americans in particular want the old America. of God , glory and guns.. We may have to get use to the idea that we've lost alot of that and undeniable inevitable hardships are on the way. If so we gotta be realistic about that and get ready and prepare for that. Not wait till it's upon us and wreaking havoc. That doesn't help anybody.

So there are projects in cryptocurrency that's found a way to meet the challenges. There are products that's found a way to use the growth rate and inflation rate of btc to pay for blockchain ubi and provide a model and solution for the world. Unfortunately small businesses and trying to put everything we can on the blockchain may not be the solution. I've done some research and watched some great documentaries on why small businesses on the blockchain don't work. Why we need things more fitted to solve real problems on the chain.

So i know you said you'll cover the economics of ubi which is a much more vast conversation than even this one on ubi. So i'll wait to see what you say about that. I'm glad at the very least the cryptocurrency space is starting to look at serious issues instead of parading around creating a circus on the chain and finding out what's the next hype cycle pyramid scheme available.



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@underground ·
Good Stuff, @mykos
Every time I see a presentation from you I learn a little more about UBI 
and/or the btc/mykos coins.  So I'm only about 3 years behind  LOL

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@mykos ·
Yes and it's an ole saying better late than never, lol.. The idea of UBI.. is much older than 3 years. It goes back to the founding of our country. It was championed by people like Thomas Paine. Interesting enough over the last 3 years due to our economic system not working for the average citizen. It has seen a renewal.  Although the name UBI doesn't test as well as citizen's dividend or freedom dividend. Which is a more accurate description. People often confuse it with socialism and put it in the welfare category all of which is a complete misunderstanding of what ubi is.

If you were a shareholder in a company would you refuse your quarterly dividend? Of course not that would be ridiculous. Would you call it socialism or welfare? Absolutely not you'd think me a fool to suggest such a thing. So although many nations have picked up now on ubi. In America especially it would work well as America is a rich country. Despite economic woes in the comparison to what category America is a rich country. You can't have a concept of rich or poor without something to compare it to.

The other thing is the success of nations are instrumental to the citizentry. Companies and small businesses exist and can do business based on sacrifices of military personnel being wiling to defend democracy. It's not something where a man is an island. So your success and your very "concept" of you're stealing from me. This is "my" asset you're taxing. This is "my" freedom you're taking away.

Well a great philosopher said "freedom" starts at breakfast. go to minute 10:50 of this video and it explains just how much freedom or the idea of freedom you have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPETzKYLkco

The point being your success is directly integral to the society around you and what it has allowed you to do. So UBI to me or the freedom dividend or the citizen's dividend means you have contributed to the overall success of this nation indirectly or directly. It also just happens that it can solve many other issues.. from job displacement.. unhealthy or obese americans because due to lack of funds they may have less opportunity to see out healthier food and or productive mental and physical programs. The injection of money into the markets could create a healthy economic stimulus adn the list goes on and on. In any event, we have arrived at a new era where ubi is taken serious as a solution in a scenario where we don't have many.

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@underground ·
Good breakdown, TASK. 
BTC/MYK  is attacking this question already, that coin would be privately funded, it's like a "build it, they will come" type thing. There is already a lot of corporate interest, it seems.  Also approaching a funding mechanism for "UBI" as leveraging one's online presence to earn money makes a lot of sense too. 

IMO it will take a combination of things. 

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