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Lessons from the Libertarian In-fighting
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Two and half years ago I was sitting with a friend of mine in a roof-top terrace in Rio while she was telling me about her new start-up that was about to be launched.

As most start-ups go, it all starts with personal dreams about effecting positive change in the world. While many of those plans and dreams may never get the chance to take off,  Susanne’s dream did. 

You see, Susanne is a go-getter. Wherever she sets her mind, her feet are usually not too far away. Even if it’s in war-zones. 

Seriously, war-zones.
 
A few months later, that company she told me about was already taking shape.

In short, Bitnation was a proposed solution to a precise problem. An attempt to replace the current authoritarian system with a new model where all transactions are open-source and registered on the blockchain.  

Would that work? 

I didn’t even think about asking  that question to be honest. 

To me  success is never guaranteed, so instead of dwelling over functionality, we just kept discussing the idea, the plans, and how certain elements would be executed.

It all seemed fascinating that I just kept asking about smart contracts. 

![Alt Text](https://media.coindesk.com/uploads/2014/07/smartcontracts.png)

Before long, their plans were in fact executed as we’ve seen the first marriage to ever be recorded on the blockchain. 

## The Do Something Principal

Instead of (or on addition to) complaining about the current system, some people attempt to create new systems that improve on the old ones, or even make them obsolete. 

Personally, I love those people, whether they fail or succeed. 

But back to the first conversation. There was a moment where Susanne asked me a question I had no answer to. 

*“So what do you think about all this Libertarian in-fighting going on lately?”*

I didn’t have an answer, or maybe I didn’t want to spend a single second thinking about it. 

 I said that that it was sad, and quickly changed the subject and tried not to think about it anymore.

Until a few weeks later when she was at the Max Keiser show in RT,  and Max said  something that made me reflect for long time, that sometimes it seems that if you were to put Libertarians on an island, that it could turn to a *Lord of the Flies* scenario.

Then it dawned on me. 

You see, a few years ago, mainly due to the Ron Paul phenomenon and other factors, many people started gravitating towards a more Libertarian philosophy than ever before. 

![Alt Text](http://theliftexperience.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/ron-paul-revolution-large-banner30-x-891.jpg)

With such growth, a whole new world of conversations started to emerge. Conversation such as: *How would this work?* Or *how would that fit with the non-aggression principal?*...Etc.

There seemed to be no shortage of interesting conversations to go around. 

But also there seemed to be no shortage of blame to go around.

At first the blame was mostly directed towards politicians that were mainly seen as a “parasite class” that without having any experience in managing companies, running businesses, building capital nor creating job opportunities… You'll always find them telling people what to do. 

And more importantly, they will always, always try to engage in some witch-hunt activity to get everyone at everyone’s throat.

It usually goes down like this:
 
First they start directing the pitchfork towards an outsider enemy, and when everyone is on a witch-hunting mode, they quickly turn the focus to all sorts of "inner enemies" to finally get everyone fighting with each other.

But here’s the problem, it is estimated that 4% of the population are sociopaths and as the Libertarian community grew, sociopaths naturally started gravitating there as well. 

Not because their deep love for freedom, but because they are merchants of hate. They saw a common enemy to direct pitchfork towards, in this case it was “the statists”. 

And from there, things went down faster than a one-legged man in butt-kicking competition. 

### That’s what happens when you take the complaining and blame route, there is no other way to go but down. 

Then you know how it goes, when everyone was on a witch-hunting mode, the pitchforks went from an outsider enemy to an “inner enemy”.

## The In-fighting Has Began. 

> *"When the devil asks you to dance you better say never, because a dance with the devil might last you forever"*  **― Immortal Technique.**

![Alt Text](http://educationnews.educationviewsor.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/pitchfork-war.png)

... *To Be Continued.*

Image Sources: [1](http://uk.easyroommate.com/blog/flatshare-argument-how-to-prevent/) ― [2](http://www.coindesk.com/ripple-labs-unveils-proposal-new-smart-contract-system/) ― [3](http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?312068-Revolution-Sticker) ― [4](http://www.educationviews.org/pitchforks-coming-plutocrats/)
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@dwinblood ·
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Sociopaths are also really good at acquiring power and rising through the ranks simply due to their willingness to volunteer for positions when others would rather do something else if they can get someone else to volunteer to attend meetings, etc.
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@the-alien ·
@dwinblood I never heard of that and I would love to hear more about it if you have any stuff you think I should look at.

As far as I've seen, sociopaths never do actual work, they just theorize about how other should work, who is earning more... Etc. 

Honestly, I can't see them volunteer for everything. Their extreme laziness is strictly correlated to their relentlessness on focusing on what other people are doing.

As I said, would love to see or read some stuff if you have something interesting you wanna share.
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@dwinblood ·
It is a pet hypothesis/theory of mine:

We come up with great ideologies that seem great on paper or our own minds.   Yet somehow once it is in the wild and applied to all humans invariably corruption occurs.

My observations make me currently believe this is true of religions, governments, corporations, etc.

These things can often be quite good and represent the actual initial vision for awhile, but it seems ultimately they are all corrupted.

My theory is that those who WANT power, are typically not the type that should HAVE power.    Yet the people that would be good with the power likely have other things they'd like to be working on, so they won't volunteer to attend more meetings, do paperwork they don't have to, etc unless it is purely by necessity.

This kind of creates a void of opportunity.   If someone seeking power realizes it they can volunteer.

Each such position can be a stepping stone to fill voids higher within the hierarchy.

So by this my theory is that such power seekers will naturally tend to bubble/rise/percolate towards the top of organizations.

This also can lead to corruption.

So your sociopath idea is not one I've used before, but by nature many of these people would be sociopaths.   Seeking power does not mean you have any interest in actually improving things for other people.   Sociopaths do not have to be stupid either, in fact they can be intelligent and focused.

Anyway, I've not seen anyone else really talk about this somewhere I can refer you.   It is something I've thought about.

It was me wondering why great companies with very humanitarian goals seem to eventually all veer away from that over time.   Same with governments, and pretty much any organization.

At the moment... this is my leading contender for what I think is going on.
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@eric-the-red ·
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Libertarian in-fighting is par for the course.  Here in Louisiana, it is the same.  I haven't noticed anything that rises to the level of sociopathic yet.  Good article!
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@the-alien ·
That's good, there isn't anything bad in Louisiana.

I meant certain times a few years back where the 'celebritarian' in-fighting was trendy.



Thanks man!
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@eric-the-red ·
Your welcome
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@freedomengineer ·
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Yeah I felt sorry for the way Sussane got raked through the coals when she first launched the crowdfunding round. She did not have a trusted way to collect funds (a multi sig wallet) and some lawyer really attacked her for it on 'Let's Talk Bitcoin' for that fact. So right out of the box she was slammed and really accused of being dishonest. All for something that at the time she clearly did not understand was demanded by crypto investors. So there was that, then there are libertarians that simply do not want identity and reputation on a blockchain. So these people attacked her. Than there is a certain amount of competition too. People criticize eachother's projects instead of working together like Peter Thiel advocates in 'Zero to One'.
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@the-alien ·
Yeah I remember, there was even a group of people that was very angry. She's doing fine now, they raised the funds, hope they help people.

I always hope for projects like that to succeed.

And you're right, many libertarians didn't want their identities on the blockchain. In fact I know several that were totally against bitcoin for a while.

I totally agree, a better use of time would be to work together, there's always work to be done. 

And now I'm gonna by a book from Amazon ;) Thanks for the reminder, I haven't read it yet.
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@noganoo ·
Full power flagged for Steem-Guild collusion.  @the-alien has been draining 10s of thousands of dollars from the reward pool by upvoting himself with @ned's account.  Along with @jrcornel, @gavvet, @donkeypong and others.  These posts do not belong on trending page.  You guys have admitted you are paying yourself for wages for your curation efforts.  This is not the right way to do it.
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@mynameisbrian ·
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**Abuse is happening folks...**

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@the-alien ·
Flagged for dangerous accusation of abuse.
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@freedomengineer · (edited)
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Hey Look, it's jealousy and in-fighting on a post about in-fighting! (voting my own comment up 100%)
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@mynameisbrian ·
Care to address the self-voting issue coming from the #steemguild @the-alien?
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@schattenjaeger ·
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I hope this not a roundabout way of calling me a sociopathic with hunter, after I opted out of the Guild, and did so without attacks, threats, or anything of the kind, and simply aired my doubts as to whether or not it's good for the community in the long run. Nothing personal was ever suggested, and won't be.

It was simply me caring about the long term health of the platform.
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@the-alien ·
This wasn't meant at you at all. Why would I? None of your actions were sociopathic, or personally motivated nor you tried to rile up people against people who are working.

Sorry you feel that way, but no, not at all.

I think you tried to do what you thought best at your opinion maybe got influenced by the heatwave. What you saw as war between two ferocious sides, one day when calm you will see one sided attacks, threats, and blackmail attempts, tons of lies on top of that.

I never answered inslut by inslut, nor downvote by downvote. Just turned the other cheek. 

But if it appeared as a war, then you should write how you perceive things. I can't possibly judge you for that, and don't worry. This is not about you at all.
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You claim I tried to blackmail my way into the Steem-Guild.  Blackmail requires the receiving party to have done something wrong.  What has Steem-Guild done wrong?
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This is right on point. Lots of strong opinions and a natural aversion to authority, plus a fair share of nuts. It's a difficult crowd to unify. Getting things done is not easy. But if the ideology were presented more effectively, one would think it could appeal to a broad spectrum of people who are constantly brainwashed to think think that they have to adopt one of the other ideologies that the corporate parties spew out.
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@the-alien ·
"Getting things done is not easy" actually I wonder if it was ever the point :P

Jokes aside, there are some who try to get stuff done, I always felt sorry about personal attacks.

And you're right, it has to appeal to a wider spectrum, that's for sure. Like everything else.
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What is a libertarian?

The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper names, Confucius.
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@the-alien ·
That's true. The word has lost its meaning the last year and half, many libertarians have turned Alt right, extreme right, or straight up neo-cons.

The left-right paradigm is now trendy as opposed to the past.
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Yes but they still call themselves libertarians. 
Well people can call themselves whatever they want of course.
But It brings lot's of confusion. 
Some people in the left-right paradigm are even calling themselves an-cap or voluntaryist.  I mean where does it stop.
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