The XBOX One X Is OK - But This Is What I Would Really Like In A Console (Clue it isn't 4K) by thecryptofiend

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Thank you:)

👍 akiyoshi

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@akiyoshi · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

You are welcome..
Have a nice day..^^

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@alienposts · Jun 17 '17

$0.72

Thank you for the detailed post, XBOX is leading the game !!

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It is right now.  I do hope they look at consistent frame rates though.  I understand they are looking at doing that as an option on games.

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@alienposts · Jun 17 '17

$0.72

Adding that as an option on games would be great, thanks for posting !!

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@alphacore · Jun 17 '17

$2.31

I want a console that's backwards compatible with all other consoles ever made

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@smithymayo · Jun 19 '17

The only way to achieve this is through emulation, unfortuantely. Unless you mean all other consoles by the same brand/company.

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That would be awesome.  I think in theory it is also possible but the copyrights needed would mean it could never happen (legally at least).

👍 smithymayo

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@bleedpoet · Jun 17 '17

$16.69

Been an Xbox gamer since the Duke, one thing that impressed me and swayed my away from the PlayStation route is that PlayStation always seemed pixelated whereas Xbox had found away around this and made really beautiful games, like DOA4, which was a launch title years ahead of its time. I would personally be just as happy at 24-30fps if it meant the end of load times. I can't even play GTA 5, because by the time it loads, I'm out of time to play. I'm not sure that the XOX addresses the load time issue completely sticking to the traditional HD instead of a SSD. Hopefully Xbox 2 will have an SSD cartridge slot with the operating system built into the system. With games like Halo 5 sitting at 98gb, having a 1tb hard drive seems limiting. I've got my xbone hooked to a 5tb seagate, and even that is starting to fill.

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@bleedpoet · Jun 17 '17

Great post, btw

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@randowhale · Jun 18 '17

$0.41

This post received a 14% upvote from @randowhale thanks to @thecryptofiend!  For more information, [click here](https://steemit.com/steemit/@randowhale/introducing-randowhale-will-you-get-the-100-vote-give-it-a-shot)!

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I haven't really noticed any greater pixelation on PS4 but it may be my TV.  Yes load times are a killer - I can't wait until NVMe SSDs become standard!  I think the size of games means that it will be a while before it becomes practical.  I can imagine it is pretty easy to fill up a 5TB drive particularly if you use it for music and movies too.

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@bleedpoet · Jun 18 '17

$0.48

Nope, just games. I'll hand it to Sony, the PS4 has impressive visuals, but the ps2 and three always seemed a step behind. Brand loyalty is paying off with the backwards compatability. Glad to see a gaming post here, looks like I have another rabbit hole of steemit to explore.

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@carface · Jun 18 '17

$4.58

Been out of the gaming scene for a few years now but been thinking about getting back in. I have a friend though who is addicted and he seemed very excited about 4k but I was under the impression most people wouldn't notice the difference. Who know's I'm sure I read that somewhere though.

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I think for many people it would be hard - unless you have one of those humongous 70 inch screens (or you sit very close to a smaller one).

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@dawsonbk777 · Jun 18 '17

$0.71

Fantastic article. To add to this, it really seems like the core consoles are going for the "4K" era.  I'm all for my games looking fantastic, but there are reasons why gems like Undertale are getting attention. Of course I could go on and on about Story, Mechanics, and other such yet SUPER agreed on the just consistent 60 frames man!

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@thecryptofiend · Jun 18 '17 (edited)

I think you are right.   If you also look at the revival of old school 8 bit style graphics I think it is also related and not just about nostalgia.

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@dawsonbk777 · Jun 18 '17

$0.69

Most definitely. The nostalgia, the gameplay, the story, and some of these other indie games are just so damn interesting. Like I'm not even sure what happened to  Bioware but Dragon Age 3 and ME: Andromeda just fell so short for me. And we can blame EA all we want at the end of the day though, the game was made. Sooooo much to thread of this one topic.

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@dracosalieri · Jun 17 '17

$0.72

And this is why I prefer PC... A whole new console to fix problems that were predicted will happen!

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$0.11

Yes that is true.  I would just love to have some of that PC experience on a large screen and sitting in an arm chair!

👍 dracosalieri

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@dracosalieri · Jun 17 '17

$0.72

Why not? I do...

HDMI you PC to your TV and sit back with a controller...

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@dreamrafa · Jun 17 '17

$0.76

What does the cat have to do with gaming? lol cute cat xD .... Well, lets face it, general public does not care about FPS, they just care about image detail, this is valid for average users and not people who is really into gaming... So you have to keep in mind that this companies wants to sell a lot, not please real gamer...

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Yes I think it is for marketing purposes.

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@elevator09 · Jun 17 '17

$0.51

great work..thanks for sharing!

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$0.02

Thank you:)

👍 elevator09

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@elevator09 · Jun 17 '17

$0.51

no problem!

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@evanrvoss · Jun 17 '17

$3.59

60 FPS!!!


![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmaGbMLjiPYZS9UgHswieTYwAP7U5F8LFqDY9XJWk3spaQ/image.png)
IT'S THE THRUTH THOUGH!!!

**_UPVOTED_**

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Lol!

@evanrvoss · Jun 17 '17

$3.47

Actually some people might even imagine it even worse then that  lol.

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@evolved08gsr · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

The nerd in me loves this article :)

This is why I have been such a strong proponent for PC games over console games. You're able to buy a powerful graphics card, or multiple, at a reasonable price, control your resolution, and therefore control your frame rates! I know the world has floated a bit away from PC gaming, but I'm still optimistic that PC gaming will come back.

The obvious counter argument to PC gaming is that content producers are unable to maintain a significant enough profit margin on their products. Although one might be able to argue that many console systems are selling at low margins (or at a loss) with the hope of regaining profits through subscription and add-on services.

Personally, I'd love to see a revival of the PC gamer!

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@joeyarnoldvn · Jun 19 '17

computer games to Nintendo and Microsoft and Sony is kind of like Linux to Microsoft and Apple

👍 joeyarnoldvn

I think it is already happening.

👍 evolved08gsr

@evolved08gsr · Jun 18 '17

$0.71

I know many of my friends who previously played PC games are now almost exclusively on consoles still. The emergence of online multiplayer in consoles drastically changed what made PC games different / more valuable than consoles. Previously the only way to play with others on a console was to be connected with them on a LAN.

With AMD coming out with some amazing gfx processors at very affordable prices, PC gaming has definitely been given a boost in leveling the cost playing field of PC vs Console games. I hope the transition is happening because there's nothing like playing a game with a mouse and keyboard!

@exan · Jun 25 '17

$0.21

Congratulations @thecryptofiend
You took 33 place in my [Top 100](https://steemit.com/statistics/@exan/top-100-posts-with-maximum-payout-2017-06-24) of posts

👍 thecryptofiend

@thecryptofiend · Jun 25 '17

Thanks:)

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@freedomnation · Jun 17 '17

$4.07

Console vs PC war is what is fueling both parties with money lol. I like PC more because of strategy games I enjoy playing so I don't really care about resolution. X seems pretty nice though.

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Yes it does.  I also think MS are making it more like a PC in terms of refreshing more frequently.

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@freedomnation · Jun 17 '17 (edited)

$2.50

Still can't leave that PS nostalgia and fanboy behind. :) I mean both the consoles and the PC have their pros and cons. You can't play many or almost every popular competative game on the consoles. On the other side PC lacks that FPS consistence and some hit console exclusives.

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@iijokerzace · Jun 18 '17

$0.71

In the conference he was saying 4k with 60 frames but yeah idk how that would be possible when a graphics card  OVER $500 (Xbox One X Price) cant run games in 4k AND 60 frames. So I hope the 4k resolution isnt a restriction fro developers and can use the Xbone One X powere purely for that sexy 60fps.

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I missed that - I will need to give it a listen but you are right, seems kind of improbable as it is hard to do that on PC.

@iijokerzace · Jun 18 '17

$0.47

Really what they should have made a bigger deal was to show more games from the PC world  coming to xbox one. I think the best thing they showed (other than the Xbox One X) was Playerunkowns' Battleground coming to Xbox One.

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@jlufer · Jun 17 '17

$0.72

Thank you very much dear friend @thecryptofiend for sharing this information, I will read this news to my son that he is the fan of the games.
Have a beautiful weekend

Thank you:)

@jodipamungkas · Jun 17 '17

$0.72

nice post nice to meet you iam gamer to @thecryptofiend ^_^

Welcome:)

👍 jodipamungkas

@joeyarnoldvn · Jun 19 '17

$0.45

please send that kitten to my house

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@joeyarnoldvn · Jun 19 '17

yes

👍 joeyarnoldvn

@thecryptofiend · Jun 19 '17

:)

@jojovdm · Jun 17 '17

$0.72

How not to resist the little cat. I upvote

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:)

@karenb54 · Jun 17 '17

$0.72

I think I would rather have the kitty, hubby has the Xbox 1, he's always moaning about it,  he must have played it about 5 times since Christmas, that's not like him he was never off his Xbox

Lol!

@liberosist · Jun 17 '17 (edited)

$17.32

It's up to the developer. For example, Forza Motorsport 4 runs at native 4K with a locked 60 fps. Given Turn 10 Studio's history, when they say locked 60 fps, they really mean it. The Halo, Battlefield and Call of Duty games will almost certainly be 60 fps too. There'll also be games which offer the option between High IQ/30 and lower IQ/60. You're right, of course, that a majority of games will target 30 fps. There's good reason for that too - studios have done double blind tests where casual gamers always prefer flashy visuals over higher frame rates. They are so used to 30 fps - or even worse, 24 fps from movies - that it doesn't bother them.

However, with Xbox One X, it's not just 30 fps. It is the first console to support variable refresh, this is massive leap forward for console gaming. We've known this in the PC land as Gsync for Nvidia or Freesync for AMD as you point out but somehow seem to miss that Xbox One X supports this too. Of course, the Xbox supports Freesync, we should see this release in future TVs (Freesync is an open standard adopted by HDMI). This means you are no longer tied to either 30 fps or 60 fps. Most console games actually run between 30 fps and 40 fps, and are capped to the lowest common denominator in the stress points. For the rest of the game, there's a lot of wasted potential. With Xbox One X and a Freesync TV, this potential will no longer be wasted.

Around 45 fps is pretty good - I try to configure around the 50-55 fps mark, and when it dips down to early-40s I really don't notice with Freesync (on my PC). I'm sure you'll remember how The Hobbit movies looked silky smooth at 48 fps. So, a variable refresh synced 45 fps would be a great step forward.

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@ccricers · Jun 18 '17

$3.90

Is FreeSync coming soon to TVs? I'd like to get an AMD card to have at least a console sized PC. It's still terrible that the cheapest G-Sync monitor, new, costs over $300.

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@liberosist · Jun 18 '17

Yes, they are coming this fall. Freesync is actually a ratified HDMI standard. Check out Digital Foundry's video about it. (Can't find it off hand...)

G-Sync is a sham, they have exorbitant royalty fees. It's typical Nvidia using their market power to exploit ignorant consumers. Freesync is the future, and ultimately Nvidia will need to adopt it as well. Currently both Intel and AMD support Freesync, as well as the entire industry.

Not sure.  I don't think there is really enough demand yet in the console world but awareness will likely grow.

@randowhale · Jun 18 '17

$0.41

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$3.44

I didn't know about the variable refresh - that should help with games that can't lock on 30 or 60.  I would love to see Freesync on TVs as that would help a lot too.

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@locikll · Jun 17 '17

$0.50

Hell yeah man!  I use a 144Hz Gsync monitor actually recently bought them for my PC last year and the frame rate difference from 60fps to 144fps is enormous and Gsync removes stuttering which makes the  immersion in games so much better!

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Cool!

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@manish2303 · Jun 17 '17

$0.51

i ll allways vote for a pc anyway nice post!!

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Thanks!

@melowd · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

Wow great man,it is a good one.

Thank you!

@muchlizars · Jun 19 '17

$0.47

Great article. thanks for sharing..

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@newseek · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

Awesome

Thank you!

@primelink · Jun 18 '17

$0.48

I've been saying that Microsoft is living in the future a little to early and your post perfectly agrees with it from what i can see. Most people haven't made the switch to 4K yet and only dedicated fans will pick this console up. I feel they should have waited another year for the announcement of this console.

Yes you may be right.

@rihchie.ebb · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

So hyped to get me one to be honest. Just going to wait a while after release so the price drops. Hard to pay that much when you are a student

$0.03

Yes it is not cheap.

👍 rihchie.ebb

@rihchie.ebb · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

Heard it is going for ZAR 7500

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@runrudy · Jun 17 '17

$0.76

Nice.  I didn't know you were a gamer.  Do you use a wheel when racing?  I was looking into investing into some fanatec gear.  E3 is going on right now and project cars 2 is looking pretty cool.

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Yes I need to get a new one though.  I would like something that works with PC, XBox and PS4 - haven't really found one I like yet.  None of the options are cheap!

@runrudy · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

Your right, the price of these things are so high.  You can get one that does PS4/PC or Xbox/PC.  I am not sure I have seen one that does a three in one.   I like the fanatec gear but it is like $800 to get started with all the pedals and shifter etc... You were talking about 4k gaming.  If you haven't yet, VR racing is something to experience.  The resolution isn't there yet but it is so darn immersive.

4 replies

@saqib · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

Nice Post Thanks For Sharing! Upvoted and Resteem.

Thank you!

@saqib · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

Welcome!

@senor · Jun 17 '17

$0.49

Hmm let's see how this one is.

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@sevenstars · Jun 17 '17

$29.22

Totally agree, frame rate matters much more than resolution. Example: If you had to choose between playing 5 hours of two games: One game in beautiful 4K but at 5 FPS,  or another game with 420p at 60FPS which would you choose?  I would choose the 60 FPS every time. Lower FPS makes the game unplayable and ruins the experience. FPS matters a lot more than the gaming industry lets on. FPS is almost like a silent spec, no one pays any real attention to it unless it's below 30 FPS.

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@liberosist · Jun 18 '17 (edited)

Well, that's a totally extreme example. I'd choose 4K at 30 fps over 420/100+fps anyday. However, I'd choose 1440p/60 over 4K/30. 4K matters, it makes the image amazingly clear. Going back to 1080p looks like a mess of aliasing and shimmering artifacts. 

Of course, there's diminishing returns beyond 4K. That's 12 MP, and that's good enough for most TV and PC viewing from regular viewing distances. So I hope for the next gen the focus is on 4K/60 instead of 8K/30.

@randowhale · Jun 18 '17

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Yes absolutely.

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@sevenstars · Jun 17 '17

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Thanks man, I'm glad you posted this, it's a topic that I wish got more attention in the gaming community. You did us all a service. :)

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@streetartgallery · Jun 17 '17

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Great post! I'm still more of a fan of Sony and the Playstation. Have you played the PS4 VR yet?

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Not yet.  To be honest I'm scared that I will get motion sickness as I tend to get it very easily.

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@streetartgallery · Jun 17 '17

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Yeah if you get it easily you might be effected from the VR. The realism of PS4 VR cant be denied though. Very cool stuff. Keep up the good work

@tga1108 · Jun 17 '17

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Exactly, better frame rates are more important!

I agree.

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@whotiewho · Jun 19 '17

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Great post! I agree that frame rate is important and deserves more attention. My hope is that they are using 4K for marketing while working on high frame rate/refresh rate implementation behind the scenes, not just gaming consoles but TV companies as well.

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@thecryptofiend · Jun 19 '17

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I hope so too:)

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@wisbeech · Jun 17 '17

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Yeah, games can look great, but i want smooth as butter 60 fps!

Me too!

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@wisbeech · Jun 17 '17

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Do you not hate as well that they seem to want to try and upgrade using the same model as mobile phones, I'm not interested in incremental disappointing console upgrades, i want to be blown away, i wish Sega would come back in, i remember the Dreamcast, my god what a jump. Gave me the internet and anti aliasing, Resident Evil Code Veronica was stunning on it, hard, but great.

@xervantes · Jun 17 '17 (edited)

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Yes, I completely agree. Framerate>resolution. What we want on a console is smooth gameplay. It also remains to be seen if the game developers are going to allow 60fps on the Xbox one X for certain games. There would be an unfair advantage with multiplayer games for owners of a Xbox one X .

Good point had not thought of that.