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<center>  </center> Not looking forward to writing this post. I will need to remember numbers for different things and piece them together, in a way that makes sense. The previous post, [Looking at figures](https://peakd.com/invest/@thehive/looking-at-the-figures) looked a bit at possible returns for various starting points. This post is very similar with a bit more detail.
There is no, one right way to do things. Anything we do should be done with the benefits for the average person mindset. If there is a true ambition for the success of Hive and its tokens. The average person should be our target. Not the rich who can invest. Not a big business that just wants control and profit.
Is there any ambition for Hive. I mean real ambition that Hive could have a positive impact on populations across the world. Or is it that the only ambition is to accumulate as much as possible for a payday later. Is the Hive blockchain only a fad? A temp token that has no place in the future as people make their million and then cash out to FIAT or another crypto investment. Is there an ambition to make HIVE or HBD a useful currency?
Hive does not seem to have a direction to go. Is just to exist enough?
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In this example, we begin with a working foundation. This would mean we are working from a full set up of what is needed without any need for support from external sources of HIVE HBD or FIAT.
This is also starting with a minimal best case scenario. Re-investment, administration cost and a Hive support percentage are taken from into account in this case.
Suggested breakdown.
65% reinvested.
20% to any investor (DHF would be considered an investor).
10% Administration cost. (Administration cost will also be used as maintenance costs.
5% rebate system.
The value of each % is expected to rise through the reinvestment of the 65%.
Note: The figures demonstrated below are based on an accumulation of €5,500,000.00 total.
Lower level expected return €384,000 per year.
Upper level expected return €440,000 per year.
In this example, €400,000 per year is being used as a standard return. Resulting figures are marked down to the conservative side.
A minimum of €200,000 - €250,000 will be reinvested each year.
There are no employee's. Any person working within this project would be considered a volunteer or contractor.
<center> **Breakdown of possible income**. </center>
Year 1 cycle €400,000 will pass through the account.
400.000
65% 260,000 Reinvested 50K held over (Provides additional 18,000 return.)
20% 80,000 Investor
10% 40,000 Administration cost.
5% 20,000 Rebate system.
Year 2.
418,000
65% 271,000 Reinvested 60K held over plus 50K previous 110. (Provides additional 18,000 return.)
20% 83,600 Investor
10% 41,800 Administration cost.
5% 20,900 Rebate system
Year 3.
436,000
65% 283,000 Reinvested 70,000 held over plus 110 previous/ (Provides additional 18,000 return.) The accumulated held value will be used early in year four. Providing an additional 18,000 in year 4.
20% 87,200 Investor
10% 43,600 Administration cost.
5% 21,800 Rebate system
Year 4.
454,000
65% 260,000 plus 180,000 held over Reinvested ((Provides additional 36,000 return.)
20% 90,800 Investor
10% 45,400 Administration cost.
5% 22,700 Rebate system
Year 5.
490,000
65% 318,000 Reinvested 100,000 held over. (Provides additional 18,000 return.)
20% 98,000 Investor
10% 49,000 Administration cost.
5% 29,500 Rebate system.
Year 6.
508,000
65% 330,200 plus 100,000 held Reinvested ((Provides additional 36,000 return.)
20% 101,000 Investor
10% 50,800 Administration cost.
5% 25,400 Rebate system
Year 7.
544,000
65% 353,000 Reinvested 150,000 held over((Provides additional 18,000 return.)
20% 108,800 Investor
10% 54,400 Administration cost.
5% 27,200 Rebate system
Year 8.
562,000
65% 365,300 plus 150,000 Reinvested (Provides additional 36,000 return.) 100,000 held over
20% 112,400 Investor
10% 56,200 Administration cost.
5% 28,100 Rebate system
Year 9.
598,000
65% 388,000 plus 100,000 Reinvested ((Provides additional 36,000 return.) 70,000 held over
20% 119,600 Investor
10% 59,800 Administration cost.
5% 29,900 Rebate system
Year 10.
634,000
65% 412,000 Reinvested ((Provides additional 36,000 return.) 70,000 held over
20% 126,800 Investor
10% 63,400 Administration cost.
5% 26,700 Rebate system
Over a 10 year period foundational value of HIVE held from €6M to €9M
From 400,000 additional turn over to 670,000 per year.
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This is a simple estimate working within the lower return values. Providing a bare minimum expectation from performance estimates.
It is not meant as conclusive and is only one part of what would be a much bigger support generation security and expansion for the blockchain.
Expansion exploits and developed opportunity's are not shown here. An integration post will be done in a future post.
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Crypto Excahnge:
**Ionomy:**
https://ionomy.com/en/aff/d0afaf8f56804ce181c5ef5db43d4a21
**Bittrex:**
https://bittrex.com/Account/Register?referralCode=DHH-RXK-11E
**Crypto Card Visa Blockcard**
https://dashboard.getblockcard.com/i/SMvuCfUG
**Discord Servers**
**Bro SGN**: https://discord.gg/W2pdeDa
**Hive Block chain Server:** https://discord.gg/QxbgScK
**Games**
Free to play:
Poker: https://brosinopoker.com
Music game: https://www.risingstargame.com?referrer=thehive
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