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Raspberry Pi Foundation Launches Pi 400 by themarkymark

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· @themarkymark ·
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Raspberry Pi Foundation Launches Pi 400
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Interesting new product released by the Raspberry Pi foundation.

Basically it is a Raspberry Pi 4 in a keyboard for $70.  It is actually an improved Pi 4 running at higher clock rate and 4 GB edition.

# Announcement Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSvHJ97d8n8&feature=emb_title

For $100 you can buy a complete kit that includes the Pi 400, Pi Mouse, Power Supply, SD Card, Micro-HDMI to HDMI cable.

I don't have one and likely don't have a need for a Pi 400, I do find it a good solution for people who only need to check email and surf the web.  I've recommended iPads for many people in this situation but this fits the bill even better.  

I do wish they went with some sort of SSD instead of using SD cards.  SD Cards are notoriously unreliable when abruptly shutting down the computer, and this happens frequently with a PC.  You can get 120GB SSD for around $20, it should have at least been an option.  The performance difference with an SSD on a Pi over SD is huge.

The Raspberry Pi 4 is known to get really hot and the Raspberry Foundation dealt with that by including a large heat spreader inside of the keyboard.

One things I really like about the Pi 400 especially as a desktop computer is the placement of all I/O ports on the back of the device.  There are some Raspberry Pi 4 cases that do this for you as well but they are really pricey coming in more than the Pi itself.

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/themarkymark/IDV4PnTC-image.png)

# Performance

As I mentioned earlier, the Pi 400 is basically a Pi 4 4 GB model with higher clocks.  This is confirmed with some early benchmarks of the device.

https://i.imgur.com/91AgSn4.png

https://i.imgur.com/DWxecTQ.png

I think it was smart for the Raspberry Foundation to build this device around the 4 GB model, I frequently tell people the 2 GB is suitable 99% of the time, and I do believe that.  But when you are using it as a Desktop device, the additional memory can help a lot.  Desktop replacement is one of the few situations I'd suggest a 4 GB+ model.  If you are doing clustering or a Bitcoin node is another situation you would need more ram, but for most everything else the 2 GB is more than enough.

I might end up getting one just to have test it out, I do have one interesting use case I thought of.  I am considering moving my 3D printer away from my desk and I find it critical to have a computer next to it so I can make fine adjustments while calibrating the printer.  Both 3D slicer programs I use (Cura & Simply3D) support Linux distributions.  Almost all my Raspberry Pi's (10+) do not use TV or Monitors and are installed "headless" but this is one scenario where I'd need a keyboard, mouse, and monitor and this is a lot cheaper/small than a full PC.

I actually thought this might be a good portable device when I am on the go, as I always have to bring a laptop to remote in to my PC when on the go, but you still need to carry a display and this is far more clumsy than a Mac Book Air or similar device.  I usually have my ipad, bluetooth Keyboard, Laptop, and iPhone so I already am carrying a keyboard with me.  

This is a good time to release a desktop version of the Pi with the native Ubuntu distribution and the push to 64 bit.

Lastly, I am really happy to see the 40 pin GPIO exposed to the outside, this means you can still use this device to tinker with electronics.

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@apshamilton ·
For your 3D printer you can also run Klipper on the rPi and get substantial performance improvements over Marlin.
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@themarkymark ·
I was going to give Klipper a try when I upgrade the mainboard.
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@apshamilton ·
Yes. That's what I did. I upgraded my Ender 3 Pro mainboard to a SKR 1.3 with a rPi 4 running Klipper.

I really should do a post about it.

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@lasseehlers ·
The first computer I ever had :)
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@bluengel ·
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@bozz ·
I think this is pretty awesome. I will probably pick up one or two of them to play around with once the supply is stabilized.  I have a feeling they will be hard to get your hands on at first.
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@emrebeyler ·
I really like that one. Just need to find a reason/use case to justify the buying. :)
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@jacobtothe ·
I quite like this product, and if I hadn't already built the kit I have, this would be what I would buy now. It's basically a modernized version of all those classic PCs with an integrated keyboard.
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@lasseehlers ·
This is very useful information, this mini computer looks so cool... I have a question though: What is the deal with SSD and SD? I mean cant I just plug this in: https://www.pricerunner.dk/pl/36-4218530/Harddiske/Samsung-Portable-SSD-T5-500GB-USB-3.1-Sammenlign-Priser  and then a screen and I have a full functional computer?

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@lasseehlers ·
"I do wish they went with some sort of SSD instead of using SD cards. SD Cards are notoriously unreliable when abruptly shutting down the computer, and this happens frequently with a PC. You can get 120GB SSD for around $20, it should have at least been an option. The performance difference with an SSD on a Pi over SD is huge."

I am not sure what you mean, I think one could just buy a SSD extern harddisk and set the bias to boot from it, then you would avoid the SD card, am I right?
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@jacobtothe ·
I wonder whether the keyboard has a space to mount one internally?
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@lasseehlers · (edited)
Bruh, no it has not... but I found the answer, its easy to connect an external SSD harddisk and the SD card is very stabile these days, so what markymark writes is not relevant these days (that SDs are instabile), shame on you @themarkymark for ignoring me and providing wrong information :)
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@prolinuxua ·
cool device😎
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