I agree but isnt that the same as life in general, we all go the way that feels the best , and for some it was time for a break, i still hope that thay will arrive
I miss a few oldies, that were there when i was born on the blockchain.........
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Hello @therealwolf ! 

I saw many harsh words and some people leaving. I saw so aggressive words, and so aggressive actions, I would still naively think these came from people who were, at their core, aggressive; and for that I would say it's better without them. But is it? there are so many people I never knew. So I can only speak from my "gut feeling": I like people who... like people!

I do know some of the people who are with us though. And the interesting point is: they are interesting people! So everything is alright as long as we can now focus on constructing things further!


Speaking about that, about constructing things and dapps: I had errors recently on submission page on https://hivedapps.com/ and after submitting EXODE several times since April ( https://peakd.com/@exodegame and https://exodegame.com ) I would very much like to appear there. Because, errh, we're here, we do exist. Sorry for adding that part in my comment :D

Also, some other people on Hive Discord dare to call themselves the real wolf. And I don't know why they do that. There can be only one real wolf!

I totally feel you and share the same opinion but being an optimistic person *(or at least trying to be one)*, I think it could also be a lot worse if this would never happen or happen even later. So I believe we should appreciate as it is because there is always space for worse things :D

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As Jordan Peterson or Elon Musk stated very well, we don't know the limits of a single human yet. It took only a single Chinese man to split this community, even with everyone already in the full knowledge that he represents nothing worth living for.

Interesting, ain't it?

Lets look to the future.. we have a good thing here.. What we put into hive is what will come out.. 

I was so afraid of forking when Sun bought Steemit. I was certain it would all end up with people losing interest. Then Theycallmedan made me realize that I was wrong to be afraid. He simply said in one of his videos "If forking is going to kill us, then let us die already". 

This is so true. If forking kills us, we were not decentralized in the first place. 

My point is, yes we lost tons of people and potential. But this created an immaculate conception. We are nowhere near Bitcoin, but what other coin can claim to be as decentralized as Hive is? 

This has given us even better foundation to start upon, something that has no price. We have the second best conception ever, and I would trade that for much more than what we lost. 

Most of the devs we now have were mostly not working when Steemit, Inc was here. Yes we lost a great team, but now we're recruiting from the whole word. Once momentum comes back (and it will) this is going to be unstoppable. 

We have so many different leaders doing different things. Communities, decentralized video, games, etc... The only thing we are lacking is maybe core devs, because it's a bit centralized with blocktrades, but that will get better hopefully.

Yea, I think about this a lot. I was so excited about the features that were scheduled for Communities and it's just been frozen in time since the split.

Ned boy did so many wrong moves that there should be a movie made about him. Matt Damon would be a great cast for that movie. Great hair.

I'll agree with you on this one. It's sad how things have turned out over the past couple of years and we lost a lot of good people with the split.

Hive is finally finding it's level and core group to build from new foundations but the split put us back a couple of years and it would have been great to see some of the old faces still here and building.

A lot of talent and lot of interesting people have left the community. Hopefully we might see some of them link back in over time when things have moved forward. 

 

> so many people got caught in the crossfire due to the destructive actions of an incompetent founder.

Finally, now we all are the founders and will need to take to this to next level. Unfortunately Hivefest timing is not well-suited for me ( late India night), but I hope, the **first HiveFest**  will bring in more collaborations and confidence.  

I thought this was going to be a VISIONARY post..
Like a "What Hive could have been" post.. because that tittle makes it seem like it was going to talk about What Hive could have been.

I have always know what Steemit and now Hive... is.
A tragic and at times valiant shitshow of human personalities and egos. Who thought they were revolutionary with some basic 'rewards for "quality" content' system.. that then evolved into 'rewards for blind upvotes on a dirt trail' system.

YET it was always actually (and still is) a convoluted game of money... on a basic pretend social platform. 2021 might be a better year.. actually 2021 MUST BE A BETTER YEAR. Or this is just going to fade into the abyss, where majority of blockchain projects have ended up in.

I know I'm not in the SPIRIT OF HIVE with this but really someone needs to point out why big money doesn't fuck with this. TO FORK is TO FUCK UP. No big investor would see that as a positive.. because what stops it from happening again when people again disagree and flex their emotions and ego??

Well THAT'S DECENTRALISED isn't it.

There is no perfect system when humans are in charge.
The code however might one day achieve it, but it's a long way away from a product worth staying committed to unanimously.. and a long way away from a product that will take over as the new system from the established systems of internet.

There's plenty of dreamers, believers, visionaries here and that's great and all but in my time here this year during lockdowns I've realised that all this is IN HOUSE. NOT ONE of those talking heads that make content for the people IN HERE are out there pushing that belief/vision to those who aren't in here. You know, to ATTRACT INVESTORS. WHY?? It's almost like they themselves do't really believe.. and really just do it to maintain those in here.. in here!

Sort of.. LIKE A CULT.

Then there's the cult leaders. I mean, coders.. who OK are doing things FINALLY.. but to them there's no urgency. Because clearly they are favourably skimming from that rewards pool. Some getting multiple dips. So why the hell would you hurry that?

So again, this Hive thing is a corrupt money game really.
SHARKS FEED while the majority users: THE KRILL are the food.
Buying in to a dream that will likely never be realised.
HPUD. HIVE POWER UP DAY among many initiatives to keep them dreaming.

Some are winning.. but honestly, most are losing. Because they're dedicating so much of their time and receiving peanuts. So then a system that promised to be better than the "GREEDY MAINSTREAM that doesn't give any rewards" is now understood as "YOU MUST WORK FOR IT MONKEY" ... and with the caveat of "not everyone gets rewarded"... On top there's a widely understood and almost mandatory extra condition: "YOU BETTER PROMOTE ON THE REGULAR SOCIALS IF YOU WAN'T TO GET NOTICED or you're not a good community member!"

WTF MAN!?
At some point I wonder if the reason so many leave will be clear.
(sarcasm because I spelled it out quite clearly.)

Anyway. 
2021 will need some major changes.

hi step to congratulate christmas
even if they are sad days we have to enjoy what we can
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