QUO VADIS - SCHIELE on NIGHTCAFE by thermoplastic

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hive-158694 · @thermoplastic · Mar 20 '23 (edited)

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QUO VADIS - SCHIELE on NIGHTCAFE

<center>*“I believe that at the end of the century the use of words and general educated opinion will have altered so much that one will be able to speak of machines thinking without expecting to be contradicted.”*
― [Alan Turing](https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/87041.Alan_Turing) -  [Computing machinery and intelligence](https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/24738161)</center>



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I have been quite involved lately creating AI images on Nightcafe. Recently I joined a chat group of creators that belive in sharing prompts. Already prior to this I had cooperated with a creator/artist who had also not hidden his prompts, and the one I use for 'Schiele' came from him, which I adapted and added modifiers. 
The amazing thing is that with the same prompt you could get many different results as well as styles (more about this below), not just by using different seed images, as shown in these two examples.
![G9owDw8DsxGE4UhzEmfr--1--g2izt_11.3636x.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/thermoplastic/23ynNN2yVenZ9kgRd94iH6TPXGLf3aA3bwnNDSdorok5yjRdCuAUwSjroh8bJohQSH3GR.jpg)<center>SPACE PILOTS ON DOGON</center><sup>for this one I used one of my paintings as a seed image.</sup><br>Except at rare occasions I always use seed images, most times my own stuff, be that artwork or photography. I work most of the time in Stable Diffusion. Rarely in DALL-E2 where you cannot use seed images.

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<center>The 'Schiele' Prompt:</center>Text Prompt<br>"self aware machines by egon schiele austin osman spare, toyen, caravaggio jean benoit Post-Production, artstation, john salt detailed intricate, dystopian hypermaximalist, dreamlike ornate, hyperrealistic, ethereal 16k surrealistic, spectral, imperial colors, fantastic view, cinematic postprocessing, Surrealism, H.R. Giger, Giger Alien"<br>Negative Prompt (set to automatic)<br>"ugly, tiling, poorly drawn hands, poorly drawn feet, poorly drawn face, out of frame, extra limbs, disfigured, deformed, body out of frame, blurry, bad anatomy, blurred, watermark, grainy, signature, cut off, draft"

I had used this prompt across platforms, sometimes tweeking it, and with additional moderations. Occasionally I mix it up between Deep Dream Text 2 Dream, DreamWombo and Nightcafe using respective results on those other platforms and sometimes switching back and forth using results as seed images. AI can create thousands of different iterations, so 'evolving' one result can give quite a few interesting additional results. For the most time I opt to create four images at medium resolution on Nightcafe, the odd time nine. The best ones I 'upscale' and also publish separately.

Here a few more examples created with Stable Diffusion v1.5 (the one I use most often):


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![7C4v8JvBlnjrqlM6Fi3r--9--k62wc.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/thermoplastic/23tbtyJ7tNRWpfzbnCerkb3fYFAvkzUNma4zeB3HBt5r84yfkhSRmVb8yDfmuWUXdr682.jpg)


![7C4v8JvBlnjrqlM6Fi3r--8--2kkk0.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/thermoplastic/23tveSwpdxSmzDfhVZyZAgWAgAZcpXNzXKodrGmdCa321kru7yX3xvr9aUA58oz5ysTxB.jpg)


![7C4v8JvBlnjrqlM6Fi3r--7--ishi1.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/thermoplastic/23tH81KfQn5FYcBvdNx5jmGDnFkLjqgKgtB7t7WeeaytBzFQj3nBVMQNij3tEwjiPthnT.jpg)


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![7C4v8JvBlnjrqlM6Fi3r--4--0ed1t.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/thermoplastic/23wgMdM4oJU5nCuw7LHa1bU8RGk3nxSgbQM27Yx7KuvM4hd1u2KWs5GAYzeAHXnmjY7Er.jpg)

▼ Below are a couple 'Schiele' creations where I used different seed images.
Sometimes you can make a silk purse out of a sows ear. This was the case with the next couple of images where I used results (unpublished) that didn't come up to snuff, but once 'evolved' turned out quite good.

![315f1NmPFU2OuZohNLnq--2--4invg.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/thermoplastic/23uFRQYSkC1V27mJjWQBtzDak2FNDUM9yBsuwC7ozJ9A8V9KBuToETTavE4Gx9SHam7wa.jpg)


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▲ Before we forget that I do analog work - this is a drawing from some years ago (2008), called TRIPPING THROUGH BOGOMIL'S MIND
it is still floating around in Portugal someplace since it was exhibited there a few times. This was the seed image (hard to believe) for all of the above.<br>
<sup>All these above and to the left of it were iterations and evolved from the same prompt - the next couple looking a bit different came about using the same prompt, but different input images.</sup> 
![VfJ7gZ0K6pH7ySc2DBbR--1--prei1.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/thermoplastic/AK54vo4TfSYRK3QGE4iYmi9xxzhNYPKjzPBtiWw49Ba9jRMTn8fh4W38oJCT4sK.jpg)
▲ EGON, EAT YOUR VEGETABLES!

◄ SIGNA TE SIGNA

<sup>same prompt, different seed images</sup>


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There are many more in my 'Schiele' Album [THE SCHIELE COLLECTION](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/collection/q7I5mk70fvYi4Put3Doi) <sup>hopefully you can open that link</sup><br><br><h4>Here a brief explanation how things work on Nightcafe</h4><b>You have a choice of 5 Algorithm:</b><br> Stable Diffusion - DALL-E2 - COHERENT CLIP guided Diffusion - Artistic VOGAN+CLIP - Style Transfer
The first two are on the new advanced creation page, the others on the old style page. But with the VOGAN+CLIP on the old style page you can also create videos, but it costs quite a few point to do so.
It is a bit tricky to get to all the choices, but briefly you need to look for links to open those, like in Stable Diffusion for prompts you can open the *Advanced Prompt Editor* the simplest one are the *Presets*, then you have the *Moderators* and the one I go to all the time *My Favorites* (you can save any prompts from your, as well as any other creations that didn't hide them, in that file and reuse them.
On *Settings* look for *All Settings* to open more choices. This is important for a number of reasons: for one thing, you can now choose your output image size, the *run time*, the *Aspect Ratio* and many more, but one very important setting for Stable Diffusion would be the *Model* where you can choose between eight different models (I use mostly v1.5, but v2.1 gives you quite different looking images). 
Most times under *Prompts* I leave the default *Negative Prompt* setting to *On*, but I had saved some negative prompts that had worked good for others in my *Favorites*.
You can also add second, third, and more different prompts and assign different weights to them. 
Something else to tweak would be *Clip Guidance* and *Sampling Method*. Most times I leave them at default.<br><br><center><b>Final Words<br></b>I see great results from Midjourney, but also heard complaints of excessive censorship, plus, I am no fan of *PAYING* for anything, while on Nightcafe I create for free (yes, there is a Pro Plan), but I amass so many points (5 points to claim each day) plus 3 points up to 10 times a day for sharing creations plus achievement points (for following and being followed, as well as participating in chat groups), I have so many points on my account to burn, I never run out. Conversely, I am also on Deep Dream, a senior user with daily renewing 70 points to use, while DreamWombo is free for all (there is a pro feature as well, for a few extra perks). <h5>Since I mentioned DreamWombo</h5>a couple of cards created, from a different series called UNCLE ALBERT</center>

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@carolineschell · Mar 20 '23

Das erste ist unglaublich schön 😍

👍 thermoplastic

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@castleberry · Mar 21 '23

$0.03

I'm going to have to play around with some of your prompts! Thanks for sharing. I generated this using the first part of your prompt...

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@thermoplastic · Mar 21 '23

>looks good - if you check out my Nightcafe you find I don't hide my prompts, they are open for everyone. It doesn't make sense to hide prompts. When peeps hide them, they just leave themselves open to having their images scraped und evolved with 0% weight just using some bullshit prompt they think might work. We have a group that thinks otherwise and freely shares. The stipulation is that you also leave the prompt open.

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@castleberry · Mar 21 '23

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I might have to start a Nightcafe account! I just dropped by and looked at some of your creations and it's definitely cool. I have mostly been using the free bot in a discord group that has it set up with so many cool options. It's free and refills for free twice a day. Everyone gets 100 credits to start and then if you get below 10 credits you get refilled 10 for free twice per day. You can also refill or top off extra credits with Hive rewards. 

The average cost on default settings is one credit for one image. I think you would have fun playing around with the bot there. It's not as user friendly as some of the apps and/or websites... but there is a lot of options and tweaks you can do. I am writing a post that will have the links or you can check my AI art posts from last year and they have the links too. Cheers my friend. Good to see you back posting here more often!

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@hivebuzz · Mar 20 '23

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@jnmarteau · Mar 20 '23

Thanks for your sharing and inspiration @thermoplastic =)

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@w74 · Mar 25 '23

Das kommt davon, wenn man einen Beitrag auf die »Seite« legt, da er mehr als eine ad hoc Reaktion verdient und anschließend im Wirrwarr des Alltags verloren geht. Es ist aber auch die Erinnerung an **Canned Heat**, die das Klopfen im Hintergrund der Denkfabrik nicht einstellte und letztlich zu diesen Sätzen führt.
Die künstliche Intelligenz und ich. Eine sich eventuell anbahnende Liaison mit äußerst holprigem Start. Wobei ich fairerweise darauf hinweisen muss, meine eher kühle Zurückhaltung aus dem zu speisen, was dieses aufblasbare Monster an Wörtern auszuspucken vermag.
Die Kunst der Bildbearbeitung spielte (weil - Schuster, bleib bei deinen Leisten) daher bislang keine Rolle. Jetzt gerade scheint sich der Sachverhalt zu ändern. Wobei sich mit diesem Prozess zahlreiche Fragen auftun.
Ich gehe hoffentlich richtig in der Annahme, dir, beim Versuch einem deiner Werke einen Schiele-Effekt zu verleihen, über die Schulter blicken zu können?
Wenn dem so ist - wieso gewährst du Egon Schiele einen so offensichtlichen Einfluss auf dein Schaffen zu nehmen?
Die größten Reibereien zwischen dem Lektor und mir treten immer dann hervor, wenn mich das Gefühl überkommt, dass er meine Gedanken zu biegen versucht. Eine Art vom Rauschen im Blätterwald.
Ich verfolge die Veränderung Bild für Bild und kann mich dem Gefühl nicht erwehren, dass du mir schleichend abhanden kommst.
Was allerdings von meiner Seite her unbestritten scheint, ist die Tatsache, dass ich mir immer wieder jedes einzelne KI-Werk vergrößert auf den Bildschirm ziehe und immer wieder neue Dinge erkenne.
Es braucht noch eine gewisse Anlaufzeit - das Ding zwischen der künstlichen Intelligenz und mir.
Entschuldigung für die Verspätung!

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