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RE: Steem's #1 Pirate - Abuse & Plunder Report 2018-08-10 (last 24hrs) by thoughts-in-time

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· @thoughts-in-time · (edited)
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Let's do an experiment. Say you and me are enemies and I'm willing to do anything to hurt you. So I find this dusty old book full of weird joo joo vodoo (magical spells and whatnot). I take a 20 dollar bill cite the necessary Latin incantation in overly hushed tones all ritualistic like, then poof! The money bursts into flames, reincarnating itself back onto some palette over at the Federal Reserve.

Yet that wasn't even the cool part, the cool part is when you edicted open your wallet, your shocked to find that your last 20 dollar bill has turned into ashes! It too like mine has reincarnated itself over on a palette at the Federal Reserve. Cool trick right? Yeah it's cool, but it don't change the fact that we're both out 20 bucks. Personally if I had the magic, I think I'd rather up-vote someone from a third world country who might be able to eat that week because of me. Just saying... (ツ)_/¯

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@davidpantone ·
here's a guy @azizbd i found in BD teaching poor kids @schoolforsdg4  speaking of someone from a third world country .   I'm planning on heading over there soon and teaming up with him.
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@edicted ·
Flagging someone is like upvoting everyone else on the platform.  Money doesn't get burned.  The same amount of Steem inflation gets created no matter what.  By flagging abusers we make the overall value of Steem higher.  Everybody wins.
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@thoughts-in-time ·
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I can comprehend that perspective, but why not just upvote someone who deserves to be upvoted instead of flagging someone who has an indomitable will? It has the same effect in benefiting people without the conflict of a downvote war. It's win/win for both warring parties and the same amount of good is done its just focused at one person in a noticeable way, as opposed to benefiting everyone in a way that's so minuscule, that it won't even register for most folks.

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@edicted · (edited)
Take this example to the extreme:  Everyone exploiting Steem gets flagged into the ground.  Now everyone who deserves rewards gets upvoted.  Now you have a perfect system.

If we do it your way the system remains totally exploited.  It in no way has the same effect.  Flagging actually creates the win/win situation.  Even the people getting flagged win because the entire platform is now worth more because it's functioning properly with the proof-of-brain concept. 

If you believe in proof-of-brain, then allowing trash posts to rake in hundreds of dollars is the equivalent to allowing counterfeit Steem being created.

99% of Steem interactions could be flags, but as long as the remaining 1% are upvoting using honorable proof-of-brain tactics the system is working perfectly.
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@vimukthi ·
Technically true but realistically inconsequential unless you are the @steemit account. There are 60,000 active accounts a day. Even if you team up with a large group and use $6000 worth flags on someone, the average reward gained by the rest would be 10 cents. Considering how much controversy and fighting/trolling would occur because of $6000 worth flags, I'd say that's not the path we should take.

https://steemitimages.com/0x0/http://www.ingeniouspress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/war-is-bad-for-business.jpg

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https://steemit.com/steemit/@vimukthi/a-philosophical-and-economic-outlook-at-steemit-sbd-and-flagging-and-suggestions-for-a-better-future-based-on-positive
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@edicted ·
You can't marginalize the concept by twisting the facts and making it look like a small amount on paper. Do you really think you can be that reductive and simplify it down to one account?  I've already explained how flags could be used to implement true proof-of-brain and stop any "counterfeit" Steem from being created.  That isn't a few cents per person.  That's a platform worth 1000 times more than it is now.  

People who flag others because they got flagged are immediately in the wrong.  This is childish temper tantrum behavior.  That kind of wrong action automatically deserves more flags. 

You flag something because because in your opinion it's worth less reward than it's getting and you're willing to lose your own reward to burn someone else's.  If a person can't remain objective and insists on acting like a raging troll over getting flagged, you're saying the answer is to not flag them?  That is so backwards I don't even know where to begin.

War is literally a business.  Do you know how much money is made by Big Oil by promoting death and destruction?  Again, don't even know where to begin on that front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dttG9aIa9RQ

And yet again with the $15 an hour thing.  As if we can't afford to pay people $15 an hour?  How many years have wages been stagnant while production and the top 1% have skyrocketed?  Your perspective on the economy is borderline conservative propaganda. You can't have your cake and eat it too.  If you want to be conservative you should at least admit that the purpose of war is economic... literally since the beginning of time. 

![minimum-wage-cartoon.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmYiiYsSFkuiKVT2PPRdEdZzoBknBLq9NkLa2wpKNAhHJK/minimum-wage-cartoon.jpg)
(Hey look at me I've got memes too. )
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