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My Self-Experiment: Arbitrary Power Used By Arbitrary People by tobetada

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My Self-Experiment: Arbitrary Power Used By Arbitrary People
### Steemit is decentralized which brings a lot of advantages. But there is also a great danger involved: it gives people power over other people who may not be able to defend themselves.
 
This has been a topic which has arisen quite a few times on steemit and there hasn't been found an adequate solution yet. What I mean is this: you might get censored by someone who has more voting power and can therefore hide your comments or prevent a payout of your posts even though there is no legitimate reason. The problem? You can't go anywhere and talk things over if the person in question is not interested in a dialogue. 

**It is simply a question of power: whoever has more voting power "wins".**

Another problem is that automated anti-spamming-bots can't always distinguish between legitimate spam and posts which should not be flagged as spam. They simply use an algorithm to detect so-called spamming and blacklist users. While this has alleviated spamming problems on steemit, it does censor people who are falsely caught by the system.

To prevent unjustified blacklisting, spamming-detection-bots might have a discord channel like @steemcleaners do. The idea: you go there and appeal to someone to uplift the ban. While this sounds reasonable, I will show here that this does not always work. 

**The reason for this is that people who have been given this power can *use* this power in any way they wish. In other words, the arbitrary actions of the "handler" leaves room for abuse and prevents a correct handling of cases.**


### To demonstrate, here is an example of what happened to me.

I started by making several comments in which I self-voted myself to demonstrate how easy it is to use the system of steemit to his or her advantage (It should be discussed on steemit, however, if self voting actually really does constitute an illegitimate practice. For instance, is it really better to use voting bots rather than to self vote? But this is another discussion...) 

![Un1benannt.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWVsivnkJPhKMbuLFTUJ1FkAE8CLGeQFKsFQNETpqN1s8/Un1benannt.jpg)

You can see that my original posts were down voted by  @mack-bot so that they will not have a pay-out. So far so good actually. A bot recognized self voting and removed the upvote. **This is actually disproving my assumption that it is easy to "comment farm".** good! (In hindsight I guess it would have made more sense to research about this topic first in order not to end up in this position...)

So what is the problem here? 

The problem is how things got handled after that. I went to the @steemcleaners discord channel and appealed for removing my blacklisting. What followed was a not very enlightening conversation with @logic who was not able to understand my side. Here is an excerpt:



![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSuXktoVWSm8suB3hA6igF5VYaRe6roev45Sx6gXwcVDj/image.png)

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbE8FXkrNw5oXgBND8etHHgrQDPg5mCrRf52XA1Lvjgoc/image.png)

this ended up by myself being "timed out" 

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaKYDGzAz3D9XLfjEp9sKozrERkWfZ1HXnXZntCLgHzMc/image.png)


So what does that leave me with? I am not sure, really. I doubt that I can have a reasonable conversation with @logic. So will somebody else understand me? Maybe, maybe not. 
### And that is exactly my point: It is completely arbitrary. The decision to unblacklist me is dependent on a single person who is unwilling to see the background of my actions.

 
While I did not check the validity of other people's reason for being blacklisted, there are many users who feel that they have been wronged and almost have no way of explaining their position:

<center>![Unbenan44nt.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmZnnZeeHTSeqGaNGPQ19tfgPSEjcU4xmLtdJ35nnfMoFJ/Unbenan44nt.jpg)</center>

<center>![Unbenan41nt.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRrxw4sytUQDtDYxCz4tkcaVKVLAqYxPwyKvgmLSF9V1E/Unbenan41nt.jpg)</center>


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@kawaiicrush ·
Your problem is not in what you did.. experiment or not. Your problem lies within the first three words of your post. Explain what decentralized is. Then explain to me why Steemit is decentralized.. and then I will enlighten you with facts from the blockchain. You are under a deception Sir.
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@iflagtrash ·
I flag trash.  You have received a flag.
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@tobetada ·
thank you for giving me your view on this. This is actually shocking... And you are getting downvotes why exactly? :(((
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@kawaiicrush ·
The same reason they arrested Julian Assange. For telling the truth. Regardless of that don't assume they have a 'reason' because even when they don't they just make one up. Steem is like 1940's Germany minus the gas chambers.

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmTS152EggJDTZ3AQUoiNfuQM9GtnbdVd4JDEEJ2xvW6Fm/image.png)

Image is thanks to the amazing @phreakerx. A man with an opinion. Who is not afraid to say the truth. Much respect to him for sure.
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@kawaiicrush · (edited)
# What is a decentralized system?

"A decentralized system is one which requires multiple parties to make their own independent decisions" In such a decentralized system, there is no single centralized authority that makes decisions on behalf of all the parties."

# Pumpkin/Freedom oversees all top 20 "witnesses" by his powerful vote which chooses who gets the role as top dog witness (which pays 30,000-35,000.00 USD per year might I add).

# Hence Steem is 100% CENTRALIZED or you could call it DecentraLIESed to be fair.

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWQCTWQTdcD1EzdmUj6Ro9VN3ZCdMSnnr4pvbmXRJNazN/image.png)
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@iflagtrash ·
I flag trash.  You have received a flag.
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@phreakerx ·
Notice how all these "defenders of steem" have bots upvoting everything they do, even their comments. They rape the rewards pool then decry people doing the same, it's pathetic and completely transparent.

At first I thought I wanted to appeal my being put on the blacklist so I talked with support and I was told I was warned and blacklisted because I pissed off the wrong guy. When asked for clarification about the warning I was told it was a transaction. When I informed them of the lack of said transaction I was told "I KNOW THAT ALREADY!" It was right about this point where I decided it best not to be associated with that type of incompetence and bullshit. 

As long as the steemgestapo is uncontested this platform can never and will never hope to hold a candle to others like Reddit. At least Reddit has subreddits to limit the influence of the bullies.
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@smidge-tv ·
nobody here gives a rat's ass what is posted , they are just thieves , that is how they siphon steem from users and put it in their own pocket .
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@phreakerx ·
But somehow the only ones that "understand them" are others on the take just like them!
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@tobetada ·
exactly... thanks for sharing! I'm also currently not sure how this problem can be resolved or at the very least mitigated. But at least we can bring this to the attention of more steemians
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@enforcer48 ·
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Dude was just copy/pasting crap from the internet for rewards, but he will never admit to that.
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@phreakerx ·
As long as their activity is sanctioned like bad cops using civil forfeiture to rob the people they are said to be protecting, this will be a problem. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of groups that circlejerk upvotes here, rightfully so when you have large bullies throwing their weight around like they do. This is the only group that I know that does this and downvote people they disagree with, that is why my attention is focused on this particular group of flaggots. 

As far as a solution, I have been trying to bring it to the attention of everyone who interacts with these piles of human excrement. Comments are basically free on this Blockchain so I comment on every deceptive/ outright bullshit post of theirs I see with @themarkymark seeming to be the head-shithead. Every time they downvote my post to "click to see" but it still exists for the people who were also wronged or maybe just curious as to what is going on. A second form of resistance I have attempted with minor effect is adding the people I see wronged by the flaggots and then upvoting and commenting on their posts so as to develop an anti-flaggot federation of sorts.

I'm not really sure how much energy I am putting into this going forward though. Steem makes it excessively easy to create multiple accounts, I have another baby on the way, BTC is booming and I have a few other neglected projects and things I wanted to accomplish before I become brown algae for the next few months.

Good luck @tobetada, keep fighting the good fight and don't let a small group of flaggots get you down!
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@themarkymark ·
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Looks like you found out what happened.  So the experiment was a success!
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@anthonyadavisii ·
Just like the simulations! 😅

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@tobetada ·
huh?
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@tobetada ·
exactly 😅 And I actually like that it is so successful. I just have a problem with how my case was handled.
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@themarkymark ·
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It was handled how it should have been, you spammed so you got flagged.  Where is the problem?
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