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shitpost · @torico · Nov 8 '18 (edited)

$3.89

whatever

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just doing a little testie post. ive been hearing from a few different places in steem-land that **quality content** doesn't matter anymore, as long as we are engaged in community. 

can you please upvote my single photo steepshot post, actifit progress, stolen meme, repost of a you-tube vid from 5 years ago, coin promo, screencaps of me playing a video game, regurgitation of a wiki article?

multiple shitpost accounts that we siphon into our main account? that's fine.

upvoting our own comments with multiple alts? no problem.

posting big titty photos? well who doesn't like looking at that? objectifying or denigrating to females? naw, it's art.

memes are just the new form of comedy. get with the times...

<h2>*what do YOU think? what's ok as far as content?*</h2>

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@amberyooper · Nov 9 '18

I'm more or less ambivalent to the crap content on steemit.  I don't pay much attention to it.  I know that there is nothing that I can do about any of it, my account is too small to even make a small dent in any of it,  and any real flagging on my part opens up my account to destruction.
I'm sure that a hard fork could be used to get rid of bidbots, but I don't think that will happen because a lot of the larger accounts make money from the bidbots.  Taking away the bidbots would probably cause some of the whales to divest their steem, thus crashing the value of steem.
The multiple account creation problem is probably harder to solve because the systen allows for multiple accounts.  Of course, a secondary account is useless for upvoting yourself with unless you have the money to by steem to power up the account, or you have a primary account with enough steem to be able to power up a second account.  Many of us on steemit don't have that ability, but the larger stakeholders do have it.  So, it seems to me that this problem is mostly because of the larger steem holders.  If you have a thousand liquid steem floating around, it's pretty easy to power up a secondary account that you can use for upvoting yourself for a few cents per vote.  I don't see any way to solve that problem within the structure of steemit.

👍 torico, alphaccino.art

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@torico · Nov 9 '18

$0.06

exactly amber. i spose we might as well say. "first world issues", because that's exactly what this is. i found a guy with 12 alts he has powered up enough to give small votes. he doesn't abuse them as much as he could now, but it looks like he has in the past. 

steem is an alternative to our current banking system, but it's working out to be very similar, where the rich and powerful make money and the little guys find it hard to power up. all of us little guys are encouraged to power up, but i wonder what would happen if we just dumped steem instead? 

who does keeping steem-power profit? the big investors. who is making money? the big investors. ok sure here and there an especially creative dapp creator or blogger willing to bot their own posts has done well. but for the most part in the year i've been here, with the rise and fall of steem, if i powered down right now i just might break even.

👍 eonwarped

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@amberyooper · Nov 9 '18 (edited)

$0.10

Yeah, I understand what you mean.  Sometimes I think about powering down and being done with it like so many other people have done since the price crashed.  My main problem with that is that steemit is my main outlet for writing about stuff now, so I don't really want to leave.  If I look at it as a blogging platform that happens to have the benefit of small rewards, that makes it easier for me to stay on steemit.  I also like supporting the people who's content I find interesting.  I really don't expect to get support from any of the bigger accounts, I don't write about the right stuff to get their attention.  I've been on steemit for a year and a half now, so I've seen the way most of it goes.  The content creation just doesn't seem to be the part that gets much rewards.
In the past 6 months or so, we've lost a lot of really creative people from this platform.  I'm guessing that they just didn't think it was worth their efforts to put their creative work on the blockchain.  I can't really fault them for thinking that way.

👍 eonwarped

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1 reply

@bflanagin · Nov 8 '18

$0.08

I think the post is too short, and the picture isn't denigrating enough. I mean where are the 5 copyrighted images that aren't cited, or the animated gif that only barely fits the narrative? 

Funny you should post this as I was considering doing racier posts (or at least more combative ones).  I don't remember the "good times" having only been here for ~6 months, but from a relatively new user perspective the content spread is ridiculous. The fact that you can make a decent payout from nothing posts and that people can put their heart and souls into their posts and be awarded less is painful.

That's why I don't write posts for STEEM, I write them for everyone. So I made 5 dollars on something that took hours to create, that's shit, but when I shared the post on twitter I was noticed, it was liked, reshared, and commented on. In my mind if the content isn't globally shareable then it has no place on a blogging platform. 

Oh, also creating bots to game the system is shit and should be punished. It isn't a censorship issue, its a quality of content issue. Especially when plagiarism or copyright infringement is concerned. 

Humble out,

👍 smartvote, torico, amberyooper, rob-parenti

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@torico · Nov 8 '18 (edited)

i think **content quality**, and with it, user quality - is being sacrificed out of FUD, because no one wants to alienate users with influence - and voting power. doesn't matter that their VP isn't being used to support the community that supports them with a nice sized vote. they are supporting some other community -  the ones that shitpost and scam the reward pool. so if ethics and standards no longer matter, we will eventually drive off anyone who writes those curie quality posts. is this the future of steem? do we want future investors to see this anything goes attitude? business as usual, history repeats itself. we are emulating what we are trying to escape.

👍 bflanagin

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@gray00 · Nov 8 '18

Memes are the lowest form of content and I think memes are slowly fading off into full video content. That will fade into full VR content. and on, and on. Until we are connected directly into the system 24/7. I can see a future for all of that on the blockchain where artists or creators can freely monetize and operate their business.

👍 torico

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@torico · Nov 8 '18

if people are circlejerk upvoting their friends crap content, it encourages more crap content. if autovotes do not check the content that their upvote bot is curating, it is also giving profit to people who are here to milk the system instead of users who are here to create, inspire and support.

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@gray00 · Nov 8 '18

yeah the autovoters people use just jump in front of bidbot votes so there isnt curation. we only use selected curation by hand or our members who shown they create legitimate content. no system is perfect of course. but i generally see legit stuff looking through our autovote.

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@toddjsmith1979 · Nov 8 '18 (edited)

$0.03

@torico I agree with EVERYTHING you say. Love it !! Fresh air in a stale room

👍 torico

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@juv79505 · Nov 9 '18

Yeah you definitely have a point and it is very good that people raise this issue, so that even more valuable content can be uploaded on Steemit for the community as a whole. I literally work for at least 2 hours for any of my Steemit post, because I care about the community and I want to produce good content. I think that most people produce very good content, its just those very few who sometimes in my eyes "cheat" the system. But that's fine because I strongly believe that passion, hard work and dedication are key characteristics that always pay off at the end.

👍 torico

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@torico · Nov 9 '18

if people want to shitpost and game the system thats their business. i just refuse to support them. and at this point i'm gonna not support other people who defend that kind of greed and abuse crap.

👍 juv79505

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@mfxae86 · Nov 10 '18

should i post my boobies ? will that get me likes, follows, and upvotes ? Caly said he would pay me 5sbd to put his nam on my chest with a marker... two birds with one stone ;)

👍 aidab21, alphaccino.art

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@torico · Nov 10 '18

yes, yes you should!! i will definitely like that and upvote it. i think that the community is far too sexist in that we rarely see any any sexy male parts. As for the name on your chest, I think you should make a bidding war. Why should Clay get exclusive rights? display the merch, then let the viewers decide,

👍 mfxae86, alphaccino.art

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@mfxae86 · Nov 12 '18

$0.02

I think we also have an issue with hypocrisy, many times i will see one sex complaining about the other sex while they themselves do the same thing they are complaining about. 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/7c/7a/d57c7a2b646fd8ee721039e988322cbf.jpg

Again it is an inherent flaw in our means of processing data with an incredible amount of bias.... the hooman condition strikes again ;)

It was my understanding that @clayboyn was gonna put my tagged chest pic on that chattbate site he loves so much and make some money off my ass.... well chest technically ;) but i doubt there would be a "war" over little ol me.... unless you tell people i have oil, in that case...

https://pics.me.me/did-someone-say-oil-freedom-time-3423932.png

bahahahahaha.....

👍 clayboyn, torico, aidab21

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10 replies

@minnowsupport · Nov 8 '18

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@quochuy · Nov 8 '18

Money is the issue and on Steem it’s easy to make money. And there is nothing preventing you from gaming the system, no real police even if steemcleaners are doing hardwork, payout value is what decides of quality that drives posts into trending, no one is bothered downvoting.


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👍 torico

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@torico · Nov 8 '18

yeah, i've been told that we need a separate flag/ downvote structure in steem so that it doesn't suck VP or endanger our reputation out of backlash/spite. 

it really bothers me that some people can post an unoriginal meme or video, a two minute post that makes more money than a person who spends 15 minutes creating a post with original art and essay.

👍 indian-mom

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@riverflows · Nov 8 '18

$0.05

When I see tit photos here I wanna SCREAM. Good clickable bait @torico but grrrrrrrr ....I love boobs me but earning money from it in shitposts? Keep that off the blockchain pleaaassseee. I love Steemit because its kinda free of that, and then it's not, so I get upset. 

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👍 yusaymon, torico

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@torico · Nov 8 '18

my point exactly. mindless crap is taking over and making tons of money. someone is voting it. ans the majority of us are saying, "oh we don't want that" but when it comes down to it we do nothing to stop it. we look the other way, we let them on the autovote because they appear to be good content creators. where do we draw the line?

👍 toddjsmith1979

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@riverflows · Nov 9 '18

What do you mean let them on the auto vote?

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@steem-ua · Nov 9 '18

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@steemitboard · Nov 12 '18

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@steemitboard · Nov 21 '18

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@thomasrobertgent · Nov 9 '18

Shit posts are always gonna be there , it’s a worry that it’s on the rise though ....... damn your provocative post pic 😂

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@torico · Nov 9 '18

yeah so the question is, did half the comments and attention on this post come about because i posted boobs and a nip peek? yes shit posts always will be there. but it doesn't mean we need to reward them, nor should we reward people who upvote their own comments, use multiple accounts to resteem their own material, and make fun of people based on their political views. really what does this kinda shit do other than foster resentment?

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@thomasrobertgent · Nov 10 '18

I can’t deny that the image you posted was what caught my attention.... 😶..... seriously though I agree with what your saying, it’s a shame some people take advantage of what this platform has to offer. I hear steem cleaners are doing a pretty good job sorting some of this out but unfortunately there’s only so much they can do.

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@toddjsmith1979 · Nov 8 '18 (edited)

$0.07

"  ive been hearing from a few different places in steem-land that content doesn't matter anymore, as long as we are engaged in community. " Dtube to the T. All the quality content producers are getting pushed away. It's all a huge circle jerk and has NOTHING to do with your quality

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@torico · Nov 8 '18

i've seen a few dtube vids that were basically titty shots. dont care how pretty or charming you are, if you are a woman selling shots of your boobs and the rest of your vid is nonsense, tag it #lightporn

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@tuckerjtruman · Nov 8 '18

What do I think?
Well fuck me, we're all just degenerates.
Also (because why the fuck not) 
!shitpost

👍 torico

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@idelivershit · Nov 8 '18

$0.05

https://i.imgur.com/W2Otgtm.png<br/><sub>[source](https://www.reddit.com/r/poop/comments/77yzur/this_isnt_the_sort_of_thing_i_would_normally)</sub>

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@torico · Nov 8 '18 (edited)

this is disgustingly funny. and yet something in me rebels at poking fun at shitposts, because in a way this verifies their legitimacy. negative attention is still attention. if that shitpost bot came with a downvote, i'd be more inclined to support it.

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@yusaymon · Nov 9 '18

$0.04

*regurgitation of a wiki article?* regurgitation hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I love ur style! you know?

👍 torico

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