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· @transisto · (edited)
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Improving negative curation, A downvote button Vs. flag explained. [UI improvement]
Here's my vision of a downvote button at UI level.

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmVVr1Ebp8sNmJpziersVS5Y1ENVQmawYmufRatJCRTGov/image.png)
The new downvote button has the same effect as the current flag on the blockchain but it's maximum strength is calculated in the UI so that it can only bring the post/comments to $0.00 and not below. 

The new flag button has warnings about it's usage similar to what we have now but without the "disagreement on reward" (use downvote for that) the interface would also encourage, if not force users, to leave a custom comment or select a preset reason to let the author know why his content was flagged.

Reasoning : 
1. Not enough people are down-voting so not enough organic content discovery is taking place. 
2. Votes can too easily be sold for liquid money without any regard for content quality.
3. New people getting flagged think someone's is accusing them of wild claim like of Fraud or Hate-speech... drama ensues.
4. It is problematic right now to know what vote weight to use to bring a reward to zero but not below and unintentionally hiding content behind extra clicks on Steemit.com and having to deal with one more uninformed claim of censorship than a disagreement on reward warrant. 

This solution is for sure not perfect as bringing a post to 0.00 doesn't mean someone won't upvote it later and without being able to see orders of downvotes on a block explorer it's impossible to tell which user brought the post from $100.00 to $0.00 or from 0.00 to -$0.05

On that subject I'd like inputs on what could be possible disadvantages and technical challenge if the blockchain would not to forgo previous voting power when either incrementing a positive vote or reducing a negative vote  ie: from +10% to +20% or from -10% to -20% ?
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@alainite ·
Just copy reddit! They have got things going right on their site.
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@aljofer ·
It is good your suggestion, I think you are the fist person that post something like this. Many social networks have the upvote and downvote, in this case of steemit is only the flag, for me this social network wanted be different to anothers ones, mark originality.
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@amitak ·
### I think peoples used this power in negative way.
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@amritmahal ·
flag is batter then button
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@andreina89 ·
Congratulations friend
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@andybets ·
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I like the downvote button idea. I'm not sure about the complexity of not forgoing previous voting power when changing vote power, but if it were feasible to not cancel a vote, but just modify it, I guess you could also have bots pin a payout to $0 by changing it in response to upvotes.
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@aqdas110 ·
Hi friend good morning and good job very nice I'm new please help me just vot
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@arcange ·
Congratulations @transisto!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steemit Hit Parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20180802) in the following category:

* Pending payout - Ranked 2 with $ 605,68
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@asbear ·
I like it, more explicit and less hostile.
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@bashadow ·
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A nice temporary solution. It still however pins the downvote on the poster not the voter. With 493 votes it would be very difficult for someone to see or find a specific vote to erase. However by displaying the upvoted amount next to the name in the drop down for the first 20 votes, the offending amount of excess reward would likely be visible. There is plenty of room to put a downvote arrow next to the name that gave the excessive award, and remove any chance of curation reward to them with a down vote.

This would make the "Disagreement on Rewards" very plain. The poster has very little control over who votes except for the purchased votes. After a while any business that is repeatedly hit by down votes from one account will blacklist that account for abusing their system. A win for the people of steemit all around.
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@berniesanders ·
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We used to have one, then the whiny bitches started crying, @ned felt bad and changed it to a flag so people wouldn’t use it as much.
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@enn0 ·
Bring it back! If we can't learn from our mistakes, we're fu**ed!
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@stimialiti ·
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The following accounts belong to a psychopath that is one of the main reasons for the demise of STEEM: 
abusereports, berniesanders, eatsrewards, engagement, iflagtrash, nextgencrypto, ngc randomthoughts,  rewardpoolrape, thecyclist,  thedelegator, yougotflagged.

If you doubt any of my claims, check these accounts' voting behavior and posting history.
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@ezraswish ·
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That is about as dumb as California taking away straws.
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@charitybot ·
All disposable dishware is pretty bad for the environment.
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@vishuukey ·
Yes but is their another way for it??
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@bidbots ·
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this button looks more logical than the current mode with its down arrow in disagreement with the publication and as you say is perfect since one can say why is giving the negative vote in a personalized comment.

I imagine that this button will have to graduate our negative vote from 10% to 100% depending on what poncetaje we want to give or at what point we want the publication to go down either by plagiarism or violating the term of steemit.

Undoubtedly I like this version more, although with this button more visibly in the eyes of a lot. It will increase more negative votes this is my opinion.
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@boyasyie ·
the donwvote button will look very good if you will see the amount of dollars ($) downvote nyan on the side, like the amount of UPVOTE ($)
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@transisto ·
Nyan? Nyan cat?
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@canarypenman ·
Indeed.
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@crypto.piotr ·
$0.07
hi @transisto

> Not enough people are down-voting and not enough organic content discovery is taking place.

Do you think that it will change now? People are to afraid of down voting.

upvote on the way! :)

Yours
Piotr
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@dailyupvotes ·
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You got a 84.61% upvote from @dailyupvotes courtesy of @steemium!
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@darwindelacruz ·
for me flag button is more appropriate rather than down vote cause its makes more  sense
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@edje ·
Although the downvote has a lot of use, on paper, I dont think with the current state of affairs in our community, it lost its value. Rewards in our community are distributed more and more through bidbots, and we all know who pays for the bidbots, the author of the post. We also know bidbots for any content, regardless if it is good or not. I personally see this as the downfall of a blogging/social network and the rise of a bot network. In a bot network, quality of content has no meaning, content itself has no meaning. Bot networks are gaming networks. So, unless we somehow reduce the influence of votebots, we might as well remove the downvote option all together. We may even introduce more gaming variables.
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@els.peters ·
So helpful thanx!
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@emperorofnaps ·
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You got a 86.10% upvote from @emperorofnaps courtesy of @steemium!

Want to promote your posts too? Send 0.05+ SBD or STEEM to @emperorofnaps to receive a share of a full upvote every 2.4 hours...Then go relax and take a nap!
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@evecab ·
I guess I'm one of those whiny bitches @berniesanders LOL. I'm just thinking about people who would abuse it's use. Like you don't really like someone, so you downvote without having a good reason. I think that's not cool...a flag is a different story as it's about doing something illegal.
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@schattenjaeger ·
$0.04
Do upvotes need a "good reason"?
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@evecab ·
yes I think so. You upvote something because you like it (for whatever reason, there can be so many), so you give the person a few cents as a reward. If you don't like something, you just don't reward them. But taking away someone's previous rewards is wrong in my opinion, just because  you don't like something. Just not upvoting should be enough. Of course for abusers of the trending page, a flag is totally justified.
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@experiment ·
$0.05
Much better than the current system - it is the word Flagged, not so much the downvote... good distintion between "illegal" and "I don't like this"...
Resteeming
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@experiment ·
not a novel, hahaha!
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@feelsomoon ·
Its better the way it is. What you think a post is worth should not matter. There are definitely people who abuse the system for more upvotes but something as generic as a bad opinion of a post should not be reason enough to downvote. I'd say only obvious scams and illegal actions such as fraud or plagiarism should be downvoted and flagges to zero.
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@freebornangel ·
I like the downvote, too.
But i would ask that they be separated by more distance to avoid accidents on small screens.
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@galad13 ·
Excuse me but I see it as a stupid truth, since it only makes the author feel bad only if the person does not like the content ignore it or if he has some advice to give that only leave a comment and already, we all know that not everybody likes what we publish, I think it would be a waste of time
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@gikitiki ·
$0.04
What if, instead of an upvote/downvote button, it was a scale ...

I know it's just semantics, but if at the bottom of the post, there was a slider.  

If you slide/swipe to the left, "not useful to me", if you slide/swipe to the right, "useful to me".     The further you slide to one direction or the other, the more positive/negative vests.

By default, make it a 1-10 scale, with the option of going more granular.
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@gonewithwind ·
@transisto
What about us . like me .I am brand new here. Can downvotes affect me?
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@h20ho ·
Thank you for this post. I have a lot to learn about steemit.
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@haruhisolzumiya ·
Indeed. 

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@hayyu4 · (edited)
When my friend introduced me to steemit some months back he caution me about negative comment on peoples post. When he explained what flag down mean i was scared to even comment on peoples post because i don't want to be a victim. I think its important to respect people opinion and constructive criticism should not result to flag down. I really learn from this wonderful writeup.
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@hongli ·
$1.12
Sounds very interesting, will steem take this idea?
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@igster ·
I'd like to see this implemented also
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@ikemsamuel ·
For me people will always use the down vote a lot!..
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@jaki01 ·
Maybe it would be a small progress compared to now, but ...

> Not enough people are down-voting so not enough organic content discovery is taking place.

... I fear that probably wouldn't really change: if then I would downvote (not flag) a whale because of "disagreement on reward" he would probably flag (or downvote) me because of "disagreement on my downvote". :)
And because his downvote would be many times stronger than mine I had to think twice if I dare to place my downvote at all (and this still would apply for every smaller account who intended to downvote an account bigger than himself).

However, I don't say your idea was bad ... just thinking ...
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@janrotas ·
🙂 🙂
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@ezraswish ·
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@jlufer ·
@transisto is going to be almost two years that I am active on the platform, I do not agree with the services of bot to cure my work, however there are few people who vote for my work that I saw in the obligation to hire every time I can do these services, I do it because I live from what I generate here, this is my source of income. and I want the best for the platform
It is not better to remove all these bot services and leave the flags as always
There will be no abuse in the use of this new tool.
Excuse me for my sincerity
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@innocentheart ·
@jlufer i also want earn from steemit but as i am new on steemit and don't know how can i earn from steeemit so i need your help if u can thnx in advance
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@klippengeist ·
Exchanging freedom for control is not a path to the future. 
But we already know that from the reality...

Everywhere the same shi*...
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@lonelysoul · (edited)
@transisto and other couple of stemians that had dropped wonderful replies and suggestions, but here's my own opinion and i stand to be corrected. Humans will always be humans, i feel a structured policy might help if only @ned could consider a firmer approach that will have a mini dialogue box that will ask users there reasons for the downvote, so if the system fills the reasons are baseless then maybe the system will automatically use other alternatives i.e flag or a new alternative, for me this gives more authenticity, originality and genuineness of #Stemians & #Steemit.
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@lovethis ·
$0.05
make downvotes grat again
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@lovethis ·
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@enforcer48 ·
Well, we do offer that service here at @steemflagrewards.

That is, if you flag abuses like plagiarism, spam, etc.
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@masaitv ·
What, when was that added? I did not notice it until I saw your post, thanks for bringing this to my attention, I really need to make sure I don't use it unintentionally!
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@transisto ·
First sentence say it's a my vision.
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@masaitv ·
Then you must be smoking monkey pie!

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.partiko.android)
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@mharis5012 ·
your suggestion is good but i think that when we don't give a chance to new user to promote there skill how can they grow in a such a large community
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@noobsin ·
steemit isn´t large. it is tiny. You basically see the same people all the time in the comments.
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@mightyblueberry ·
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I think this is a great idea. Every time I flag someone they start acting all crazy like I am accusing them of something. Almost all my flags are because I think their content sucks and does not deserve to be on the trending page. Negative feedback is important, that is absent right now. I hope your suggestion is implemented.
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@minnowvotes ·
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You got a 95.45% upvote from @minnowvotes courtesy of @steemium!
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@mocais ·
What an incredible article, you favor the community people like you, who are interested in the technology of the block chain and forums (where the community grows positively)
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@netuoso ·
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So basically my https://mspsteem.com but with rshares calculation to cancel rewards and not hide posts. Doable
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@justinashby ·
What about a selection for no damage to earnings just so to say, "I don't approve." A nominal amount as to not burn vote power.
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@niceflower ·
Very good
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@online87700 ·
this is topic of concern on this platform , till date there is no resolution for this problem , lets see if this works successfully, thank you bro for updating us with this information.
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@othy96 ·
It can be good , i am afraid of discrimination .. maybe someone who hate you and your content might kill your buisness .. we will see 

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.partiko.android)
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@pradeeparora ·
It looks good but I think people will misuse it .
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You got a 87.44% upvote from @redlambo courtesy of @steemium! Make sure to use tag #redlambo to be considered for the curation post!
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@sagors ·
These suggestions are acceptable for this platform. Thanks for sharing. Like I did this first. Although I'm new at steemit. Later on you have a better post.
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@saragarmee ·
I didn't really understand this
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@ezraswish ·
$0.07
it would just say you disaggree rather than taking away rewards
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@saragarmee ·
Yes but I guess what was meant, was that the way things are worded was confusing or not self consistent.  I wasn't clear that this was a proposal for improvement vs an incoming feature already planned.
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@saragarmee ·
You could also, you know, try not being so fake.  

You're talking about reducing the awards on a post because you disagree with how much it's earned, but you're sucking a huge amount of money out for a feature you're literally plagiarizing.  

Think I'm joking?  The feature you describe was here for the first couple of months your account was active, are you really going to claim you forgot?

https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/500

This is why I mentioned confusion and you downvoted me when I asked for clarification.  But whatever.

Do you honestly feel like this post is worth so much?
Does this post really warrant the > $560 you've earned so far?  

You're paying for tons of upvotes, then you are flagging many of the commentators to the point where they don't earn anything, just because it's a bot letting you know it voted for you.  Doesn't that seem abusive to you?  

To add to the intrigue https://steemit.com/@transisto/transfers shows you're receiving money from your delegations to the upvote bots, the very ones whose comments you are flagging.  You'd actually earn more if you weren't flagging your own income sources every time they say hello.  Is it really that hard for people who don't like the "bot spam" to use the mute button?  Is seeing a "Thank you for buying your own upvotes because you couldn't earn organically" message offensive enough to your sensibilities to warrant a flag?

You're aware I wrote a bot from scratch to automate certain tasks such as curation and to leave some sort of message letting you know I'm reading the article, and while the AI isn't really making relevant comments for the most part at the moment she is just a tool to allow me to earn money because my posts aren't.  She is upvoting and leaving a comment as a sort of bookmark because trending is mess and I'd like to earn a little bit by getting in there before it trends.  I'm not trying to say I'm entitled to rewards at all.  But it is shocking that I can't compete with posts like yours because you're paying for upvotes and I don't have money to buy significant steem nor do I have a following.  Whether my posts are quality or not I guess is debatable.  But if you weren't buying upvotes and instead let your post stand on its own merits then maybe I'd have a shot, who knows.  But you're flagging me all over the place and it doesn't even make sense.

Do you really have nothing to do with your whale account except follow me around and downvote my comments whether my bot leaves them or I leave them personally, thereby negating my ability to earn for my work and my engagement?  Is that a more profitable strategy for you?  If so then please just be honest and admit that taking from others is a thing that has been working for you and others financially.  Maybe everyone should try it.  I can publish a free blacklist / flag bot as easily as I can write my cheery little upvote and comment bot.  Imagine what a swarm of those would do to the wealth redistribution.  Why go there though?

I'm thinking a better solution is a change to way rewards are calculated.  Really there needs to be a per posting cap.  My god is any post on this site really worth more than $5.00?  Anything beyond that should just go to null.  At that point there wouldn't be any reason at all to flag because of so called "disagreement with rewards" and it's still plenty of money especially for a posting of this caliber.  It would drive more people to post more often because there would be a much more of the limited rewards pie to go around.

There should also be a differentiation between Flagging, "spam, morally reprehensible etc" and an "I disagree with what you're saying button".  

I wonder what it would take to implement those and if a PR would be accepted or is the establishment too ensconced in drinking their haterade to realize that Flagging, Downvoting and Rewards should all be separate considerations and this failure to separate those concerns is a real attrition driver.

Is my comment which is longer than your article and in complete disagreement with you, going to earn your ire via retaliatory flagging or is it worth your upvote?
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@sayemsonai ·
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@schoolhumor ·
Why do we fall..?   So that we can learn to pick ourselves up.
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@ezraswish ·
$0.04
why fall instead of flying
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@scottsdale1993 ·
Indeed.
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@selected ·
Bring it back. It's all we need to fix this trash content we see everyday on top of trendings.
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@shanubipul ·
Http://shanujika.blogspot.com
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@shotunde ·
Hi steemians am new member i need your upvote on my post @shotunde
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@silentscreamer · (edited)
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I just dont think this would change anything major. A downvote/flag is the same thing when considering the impact of it. When money is involved regardless of what you call it, people will take major offense to you downvoting/flagging them. This is the case even more so when you have stake based voting. 
If we get 1 account/1 vote id maybe like to see this... 

But this doesnt really change much. People arent downvoting enough because its not an even playing field and it cannot be. Not because the flag button is in the top right corner. My personal opinion is that no one should use bots but rather votes should be organic only.... Hell, i dont even think this post should have 600$ attached to it with bots. So what if i went around flagging every one? My account would be dead in days time. 
You can make a downvote button, add rainbows to it, make it sparkle..... in the end people wont use it out of fear of retaliation. 

Thats a simple fact and theres really nothing we can do about it. This looks more like a change in aesthetic, not much more then that. 

If downvotes had a maximum % limit by which 1 account could downvote a post then maybe it could work. But i dont think that is a good idea to implement.
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@sirstacksalot ·
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Does it even matter anymore?  Interest in Steemit appears to be waning.
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@steevc ·
$0.20
I think flags that take the value negative have a place when dealing with spam as it preempts others voting them back up again. There are some who leave junk comments around so they can give them a big vote at the last minute. We need to be able to counter that behaviour. Of course flags get abused. It's sad to see powerful people trash the accounts of others simply because they disagree with them.
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@kabir88 ·
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@haejin ·
$1.26
The only "Amen" you have coming is the wrath of a person whom you falsely accused with fabricated evidence of tax evasion.

The word is out on how you [fabricated evidence](https://steemit.com/bitcoinlive/@kabir88/haejin-s-business-partner-is-a-convicted-criminal-bitcoin-live) to do your best in framing an innocent analyst, Peter Brandt, a colleague of mine from BitcoinLive; as a convicted criminal. 

You slyly used a real criminal with similar name and a Fortune writeup about his tax evasion to frame Peter Brandt. Except I figured it out and caught you!

You used the same false evidence to extend the accusation towards BitcoinLive and Me as well.

If anything, I DO NOT HOLD BACK on are LIARS, CHEATS and EVIDENCE FABRICATORS like YOU!

We demand a written apology from you posted on Steemit for ALL to see.
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@princewahaj ·
Just to add, voting in the last 12 hours is blocked by the blockchain now.
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@steevc ·
Has this been announced somewhere?
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@sugarfix ·
$0.04
There are lot's of things that I don't like but that does not mean that I should downvote them. would downvoting lead to the creation of herd mentality out of fear from offending anyone. Down vote pack hunting would also be an issue.

@whitelightxpress said that downvoting should open a screen where you had to check a box for the reason why you downvoted. I'd go further than that and say that you had to fill out a series of check boxes. I feel that if you think that a post deserves a downvote you have to justify it.
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@transisto ·
If this pop-up was to exist it would have have to allow to only be seen once
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@sugarfix ·
Yes, I think it should be a one time thing.
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@sumit1998 ·
It’s really make a sense @transisto
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@surfermarly ·
Awesome! We need to get rid off the bad image downvotes have. They're as important as upvotes in order to maintain a healthy ecosystem.

> New people getting flagged think someone's is accusing them of wild claim like of Fraud or Hate-speech... drama ensues.

Only new people? :-)) I could write a book about people going crazy even after a well explained and reasonable downvote.

**We need downvotes to become a neutral and natural part of the game!**
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@technicalwealth ·
I like it.  im all for it.

I think it might help to help calm down drama i've seen in the past.

But i still think Steemit has a quite few bigger issues but this is a step in the right direction.
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@therealwolf ·
$0.06
Steemit needs a downvote button. The meaning behind flagging and downvoting are two completely different things in my book - so it would only make sense.

> It is problematic right now to know to what weight to downvote something to bring the reward to zero but not below and unintentionally hiding the content behind extra clicks on Steemit.com and having to deal with one more uninformed claim of censorship than a disagreement on reward warrant.

Having this option for downvoting would be quite neat as well!
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@nameless-berk ·
Correct, but Busy had one for ages. Wny use steemit at all? It doesn't take a genius to see that it's functionally and visually inferior. One button won't change much.
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@tsnaks ·
That's bullshit,

we need a downvote button
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@ezraswish ·
$0.04
poor upme. you were the lowest bidding bid bot this round.
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@vdbo10 ·
It's a very good idea
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@wabakorea ·
$0.03
Down voting is a good idea but I worry that people might misuse them. We already know that upvoting is being misused in many cases.
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@whatsup ·
$0.06
I would love for the UI to reflect downvotes just as you describe.  I also want users to understand downvoting is just part of the platform and doesn't mean you have done something terrible.
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@kabir88 ·
What happens if the person you "flag"/downvote goes and downvotes all your content and they have more steem power?
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@haejin ·
$2.57
What happens when @kabir88 is caught fabricating evidence against an innocent person?

The word is out on how you [fabricated evidence](https://steemit.com/bitcoinlive/@kabir88/haejin-s-business-partner-is-a-convicted-criminal-bitcoin-live) to do your best in framing an innocent analyst, Peter Brandt, a colleague of mine from BitcoinLive; as a convicted criminal. 

You slyly used a real criminal with similar name and a Fortune writeup about his tax evasion to frame Peter Brandt. Except I figured it out and caught you!

You used the same false evidence to extend the accusation towards BitcoinLive and Me as well.

If anything, I DO NOT HOLD BACK on are LIARS, CHEATS and EVIDENCE FABRICATORS like YOU!

We demand a written apology from you posted on Steemit for ALL to see.
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@whitelightxpress ·
$1.20
As a veteran of web forums, semantics matter. "Flag" carries a universally negative connotation, and 9 out of 10 people see that word and associate it with "I did something illegal." And so, people get all fired up over getting "flagged." It doesn't matter what the *effective application* is, it's the *word* that's offensive. 

"Downvote" means just that. It's like leaving a 1-star or 2-star review on Yelp or Amazon. You're not saying the establishment you're reviewing is a *fraud,* just that you don't *like* it. Two very different situations, even if the effective application results in the same thing.

If someone is going to go to the trouble of submitting a downvote button for the UI, it might be useful to actually make it DO something, like such toggles do on many sites: When you downvote, you have a number of checkboxes: 

Downvoted for (check one):
Plagiarism
Spam
Disagreement with rewards
Not tagged as NSFW

And whatever else might seem appropriate. With that added, it might be a useful tool for cheetah, spaminator and so on.
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@experiment ·
Extremely well said.
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@holybranches ·
loud it.
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@justinashby ·
That's an awesome notion. Choosing what the flag is for.
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@mightyblueberry ·
These suggestions would make downvoting more culturally acceptable on this platform. Thanks for sharing.
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@yuriks2000 ·
$0.03
Excellent idea @transisto, will probably make Steemit much cleaner and with much better content on hot and trending pages. I would propose a slider so that you can choose from 0 to 100 percent on how much to downvote and  a value below which shows how much would that be in $ terms.
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