Lovely different point of view dude.

I thought your comment was pretty justified in comparison to a lot of complaining comments I've read directed at Dan.  Most of them are clearly misunderstanding the concept of steemit and are unfamiliar with online etiquette since there's never been a platform like this.  So when I saw the success of your post, I just wondered if those same users who are panicing over a (currently) non-existent whale problem were to see the support you got that they might foolishly think their own complaints were being validated.  Hopefully not, I think a lot of things need to be clarified to help those who have been misinformed.

It's only natural for people to pay more attention to the one cat barking out of the hundreds of cats purring.  I think Dan knows he has our support but a lot of people are just confused or misinformed.

And you should know that too.  Your abusers thankfully can't touch you and though they might retaliate by hurting someone they can influence, [Dans suggested solution](https://steemit.com/steem/@dantheman/negative-voting-and-steem) sounds like it will do the trick and hopefully we won't have to deal with them as much anymore.

I like the way you write @tuck-fheman. It's very honest and to the point. I actually touched on the flagging sytem here and came up with what I feel would be a pretty good solution that maybe others can weigh in on. [New Content Flagging System With Feedback](https://steemit.com/steemit/@bendjmiller222/new-content-flagging-system-with-feedback)

I responded with the results of this post to @berniesanders who posed the question:

>Does anyone actually reading and voting on this believe this post is worth over $2500? Keep in mind, most of that value was added by Dan himself and his co-worker @val-a. Curious to hear what you all think? Does this deserve to be downvoted?

About @dantheman most recent post

>To be honest @berniesanders, I would say no it does not deserve $2,500+.

>That being said, I do believe that it is something that should be discussed. I tend to like most of what @dantheman puts out and have upvoted the post, but it is not exactly the sort of raw open content that makes steemit so original.

>I'm torn about the using of the flag button. A flag alters reputation, and I feel that time and effort went into @dantheman creating this post and hurting his reputation score to lower the dollar amount doesn't make sense to me.

>I came up with my own idea after thinking about how I believe the current downvote/flag system is handles. [New Content Flagging With Feedback] @smooth and many others weighed in and I came to my own conclusion.

>For me there should not only upvotes and downvotes/flags but three separate options altogether.

>1.) An upvote button (with the option to select why you upvoted via a dialogue box - humor, thought provoking, well written creative _____ fill in the blank)

>2.) A downvote button that only effects the payout and again has the option for you to say why you did not like the content. (Overvalued, repetitive, _____fill in the blank).

>3.) The flag button which would prompt a user to need to select a reason why the content was flagged and which would be used to hurt reputation (whether plagiarism, hateful etc). I go into more detail in the link.

>I believe people should be able to downvote without needing to give a reason if they don't want, but flagging is a different story. If you flag and don't leave a reason why, the person who posted the article or comment has no idea why you did that. It has happened to me more than once.

>If you see "Oh I was flagged for putting this in the wrong category," you can address it and let the person who flagged you know you changed it (or any other infraction) A general consensus on what should be flagged should also be brought up.

>I think this would allow people to feel more comfortable downvoting things they don't think deserve the money they will get, without questioning whether or not a reputation deserves to take a hit at the same time.

>The more people that weigh in the better.

>So I don't think this article deserves over $2,500 because I feel many people could have touched on the same points (and may have).

>That's not up to @dantheman how much it will make. He did his part contributing the content and it should be ours to determine value of the content.

>"Content is King" - Whether a whale or a minnow's name is attached to the blog post should have no factor. Yes more followers will likely gain you more votes because people like your content and that is a way you are rewarded for putting out good content.

>But just like everyone else, a whale is not going to hit a home run every time they post and simply upvoting everything a whale does regardless of what you actually believe about the content itself will have a long term detrimental effect.

>Hopefully that answers your question @berniesanders :) I love your perspective and unique way that you handle your whaledom and don't necessarily go along with what people may expect.

Someone addressed that reputation can only be effected by having a higher reputation be able to influence a lower and I had this reaction

>But that is not the norm. This would be applicable to those with lower reputation and very new people. (I did not realize that it had 0 effect on their reputation, but that does not seem like a fair system either). If @dantheman decided to write a hateful post (He won't, but for examples sake) all users should have the ability to influence his reputation, or he becomes like a king without a check/balance system.

Nice post

nice post @tuck-fheman but what I notice is that people like to BASH more than to make PEACE... this post is proof of that because in 1 hour there are 119 votes with 17.79$ payout (rankwise).... It's a shame that this post isn't getting the traction it deserves.

Have to be voting power. I am expecting a lot more upvotes for this.

You said it all when you ended a paragraph with "They were hurting the platform ***in my opinion***." That's what you have earned/bought/paid for the privilege to do. It would be nice to have a downvote for whales (even orcas) that wouldn't ruin a reputation, or a way to vote and restore reputation without the financial reward. For a reputation system to truly mean anything it can't be completely undone by a single person. 

Now to look for yesterdays post, and the incident that caused it!

I think all the recent posts by dan have been very disturbing, I see a deep black hole being formed with the topic of voting and rewards. I am looking forward to moving beyond the topic, before it drives certain people over the edge and into insanity, as it seems to already have. I think this is all a result of the "fear of money" and the inability to deal with "power over others". Happily I do not have such fears, and I'm happy to post 5 times daily and earn an average of $3 per post, because as long as the bloggers who follow me are being entertained, I am doing a great service to steemit and myself.

## Tuck' s the man!

@ all
I am in no position to judge anyone here so I'll stay away from naming names and taking sides. I am also fairly new to the whole scene at Steemit. Besides and compared to you two I practically don't exist.

@tuck-fheman
I like what you've done with this post. You publicly and very clearly expressed your opinion. You explained your actions in a transparent and very direct way. I applaud you for doing this. I am following you because you stand by your words and your actions.

@dantheman
Your downvotes can practically delete a person. In fact, they do this. I am not saying that you shouldn't do it. I am just pointing out the consequences.  I can imagine how it feels like to be deleted from the community such as Steemit. I've had such an experience at Bubblews. It wasn't my fault but I've got kicked out anyways. Without explanation, without anything. So, please, take a second or two to reconsider the outcome from the other party's point of view. Thanks :)

To conclude - Steemit is a great community and is growing day by day. It is like an infant. We should always be aware of that.Let us do not forget this is still a beta.

Anyways, you are both doing a great job! I admire you for that. Good luck.

*​Beter and better.*

-Dan has single-handedly (well, he's had some help) made my life and wallet much happier over the past three years.-
May I ask you how?  I bought AGS shares and I'm broke.  Dan was dumping at the same time  when my shares was locked. 
Do you know anyone who wants to buy STEEM?

Respect to your respect, @tuck-fheman!
Communities are highly benefited by transparency and accountability (we know that well!). If we truly value truth and honor, then all are benefited when adverse behavior is called out and considered. Steemit is a revolutionary platform on many levels: 
--Exchanging ideas illuminates opportunities for upgrades, and the game evolves and the game evolves
--we've got a brand new economic and social model unfolding that can reflect genuine values (we're all about those values! https://steemit.com/homelessness/@gardenofeden/sustainable-community-illegally-feeds-the-homeless)

It is possible to be critical of someone with out "bashing them." We should be able to criticize people we like, with out people or even those we are being critical of getting angry. Open dialogue is how progress gets made.

Also, your post is well spoken, and your intentions are clear. I am sure dan knows that you didn't mean badly towards him.

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I read your post yesterday and I agree with you.
It even motivated me to post a proposal for solution.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@logic/negative-voting-problem-solution-proposal-how-to-deal-with-potential-biased-spam-troll-or-dishonest-voting

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it's great that you're not afraid to express your personal point of view, I am proud of and I respect such people, but unfortunately not everyone is ready to hire something is not convenient for them, hope that dan is not one of them) be well)
and my own special steemart picture for you
https://pp.vk.me/c631925/v631925586/3ef07/jm3dyJpsWRc.jpg

Give credit where credit is due. We do owe Dan a lot for coming out with Steemit. But Dan is still human and bound to commit mistakes.

I have a proposal here to fix things:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@rampant/how-to-fix-downvoting-a-set-of-proposals-for-a-solution

some points are not clear to me........

Isnt the point of a social platform / blog / society - to openly have an opinion regardless of what others think? 

(I dont believe i will use this guy as a quote, but...)

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I identify with this:

> "I type from the heart on the fly and perhaps my rants read worse than my thoughts on a particular matter actually are, simply because I'm not a writer and I don't generally proofread prior to clicking "Post"."

One as a *semi-pro* writer, I just don't have the energy to be concerned what mood my potential reader is in and what they read into my work. I just write.

And like you, sometimes, often, or always post with out a proofread. So mistakes abound. Logic is flawed. And we all move on with our lives, because the internet is a big place...

Thanks for adding to the discussion @tuck-fheman!

I was critical of his support for democracy in a rulership capacity,  but certainly not bashing.  Constructive criticism only from this guy.

Well Dan gave us BitShares & Steem, that's why Dan is the Man!

Good points. People tend to focus on the negative (Murphy's Law). I did a quick scan with your username, and even with all of the scam/plagiarism/catfish hunting that you're doing, still 92% of your votes are upvotes! There's a lot of good out there. Like I showed in a post yesterday, the top whales on average use their votes as upvotes about 94% of the time. We're only human, and we're bound to make mistakes. But in the end, most whales are actually quite conservative with their downvotes.

http://i.imgur.com/JJzc8Ow.png

@tuck-fheman To my mind you have nothing to apologize for.  @dantheman has ALOT of power on this platform.
We're all visitors here, this is his house.

You were telling him that he needs to pay attention to what he's doing and if you look at his activity on steemd, it looks like he's doing exactly that.  

This is what I like about @dantheman  if I were to hop on facebook and call out Mark Zuckerberg, I would quickly find finely dressed gentlemen in black at my doorstep.

Dan isn't like that.  He's a real human who sincerely wants to make this the best platform he can.  But it's a bit like all of us being in a bus together, with Dan as the driver.

Sometimes he takes his eyes of the road to read the map, text or whatever and we all yell at him.  Then he snaps back to driving.

I tend to be more critical than most.  Of literally everything and that includes not holding back on @dantheman as well.  In fact I'm probably more critical with him because I care so much about this platform and sometimes I see danger coming.  Yet he seems to take it in stride.
It's an incredible feeling to know he doesn't place himself above constructive criticism and feedback.

I know this because even though he rarely ever says anything directly about it, I tend to find him upvoting the really important stuff and the really good stuff regardless of if it comes from a minnow or a whale.  To this day he's still my number one upvoter.  Good to know he's one that listens.