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Support ALL Decentralized Social Media Platforms - Censorship Is The Only Competition! by tuck-fheman

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· @tuck-fheman · (edited)
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Support ALL Decentralized Social Media Platforms - Censorship Is The Only Competition!
https://s20.postimg.org/56y4aaw0t/socialmedia.png

Attacking @stellabelle or anyone else for simply wanting to try out another decentralized social media solution that may be more beneficial to them in one way or another is detrimental to the overall goal of supporting any and all platforms that are providing a way for the masses to ditch Facebook/Reddit/Twitter and any other social media outlet that censors and controls content.

There is a much larger goal here that needs to be focused on instead of starting a competition between this or that decentralized platform. We need to support them ALL. And by doing so, they will all get better with time and more of the non-crypto masses will eventually join one or the other or all to try them out.

I simply want a decentralized social media platform and I'm not going to stick with just one. I started with Qora and watched it fall apart (but is being rejuvenated again) and now I'm trying out Steemit, as I will all of the others. The more choices for content creators the better I say. Competition among these decentralized blockchain platforms is silly. They all are competing against the censorship and control of governments/corporations and we as a group should support them all.
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@acidyo ·
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>They all are competing against the censorship and control of governments/corporations and we as a group should support them all.

Indeed, why make enemies of the people who want the same changes as you for the future.
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@anduweb · (edited)
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Hey Tuck, always appreciate your opinions man. Yes, competition is good as it instills growth and in the end we, the users, benefit most as we get the best product with the best features that survives in that competing market.

Still, since we're here, and since we've seen what Steemit has done so far, I believe we should have a little more faith in it. I'm not saying people are flocking to the Synereo boat and abandoning Steemit but that seems like the trend the past couple days when people compare the two.

Synereo seems to have a lot of potential. I don't know why most mention only the Social Media part of it. It is a platform that allows any type of app (dApp), Social Media is just one of the potential ones.

I'd say we wait a little longer before expressing opinions and comparing the two. Why? Mainly because we've seen a couple months of Steemit but none of Synereo. Best thing to do would be to check back on this discussion maybe towards the end of 2016?
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@tuck-fheman ·
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I have faith that Dan will do whatever needs to be done to solve the current problems. That said, I feel that lower priority features are being implemented before the major issues are being addressed, and that is concerning especially during this crucial time and while many feel there is a mass exodus of users from the platform.
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@asmolokalo · (edited)
Sure use all others, but Steemit is the best :)
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@borishaifa ·
The idea is good. But let's see what will go out from all these   "decentralized social media " in a few years...
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@churdtzu ·
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There are many Bitcoin maximalists out there, who basically refuse to support projects unless they're based around BTC. To me, that seems like they might be missing out on valuable opportunities. I'm definitely not going to adopt the same attitude when it comes to Steemit. Bring on the decentralised Facebook killers - as many as possible!
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@tuck-fheman ·
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@coinbitgold · (edited)
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free market, free market, free market. 
The "best" platform deemed as the "best voting algorithm" as seen in the eyes of content creators in the market deserve to win the quality content creators. That being said, just a comment that @stellabelle did not grumble when she was getting thousands from this platform... why now...? And you said it right at the beginning!

Spamming here with your post, LOL: https://steemit.com/satire/@tuck-fheman/tuck-fheman-is-the-original-steem-ranter-and-you-other-steem-ranters-are-just-swagger-jackers
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@kooshikoo · (edited)
Free market,coinbitgold? Where? No markets are ever free. People are not on equal footing,
they donΒ΄t  have the same starting positions,the same education,the same start-up capital,etc. Steemit is not good advertisement for the free market. We are seeing insane power concentrations. IsnΒ΄t  this what will always happen when you have "freedom" with little or no ethics about social justice and fairness?
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@coinbitgold ·
Isn't it free market that bloggers are allowed to choose which paid to post platform to go to, depending on their rewards? Did steemit put a gun at you and say no, you are not allowed to go to other platforms to blog?
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@mammasitta ·
Very well said !!!! :)
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@tuck-fheman ·
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@contentjunkie ·
What is the bottom left logo? It reminds me of Halflife.
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@tuck-fheman ·
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http://yours.network It's the one being built on Bitcoin.
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@cristi ·
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steemit has probably opened the road toward decentralization of content hand in hand with rewarding authors in a similar decentralized way. synereo will probably follow. it's least likely this type of decentralized approach is not going to succeed: us, the masses, despise censorship today...and when we have an alternative for being reward for our content and stake in a platform - unlike the centralized one you mentioned - it's only a matter of time until it catches fire...
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@juvyjabian ·
What is synereo by the way? Never heard of it.
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@anduweb ·
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=synereo
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@karnal ·
$0.03
https://startpage.com/
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@cryptobro ·
$0.07
Good post tuck.  The competition between them will make them all better.  I hope it brings out the best in all of us too.
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@doitvoluntarily ·
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@acidyo ·
We don't use likes here.
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@happyphoenix ·
yes, we use upvoted....upvoted....upvoted... ha...ha... :)
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@karnal ·
we don't like no likes, whether you like it or not, you ain't gonna like what you like or dislike.

steemit wordraps be like..
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@vegascomic ·
ok, Facebook reference aside, does anyone else find this picture to be kinda hott :)
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@karnal ·
seems you have a thing for women with pointy guns ... thailand might be up your alley!

:-P
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@ervin-lemark ·
$0.07
I didn't make any comment under @stellabelle 's original post because I had an impression that there was enough said already. More than enough :)

First of all, I have a feeling that her post, apart from raising the issue sky high, was also meant as a provocation and a gentle push for the masters of this game. Again, this is just a hunch that I have.

Second - healthy competition is always good on both sides of the equation. Producers and consumers.

We as consumers have a choice. That is good. 

## The whole mess that Steemit finds itself recently in stems from the fact that we as consumers have also a role of the producers. But this role / function is not adequately rewarded. 

## The winner of this competition will be the system which will truly be rewarding for **EVERYBODY** involved!

No, I don't have a magic wand or a crystal ball to propose and predict :)

Currently, I am just an unhappy user looking for alternatives. I am not alone, apparently.
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@future24 ·
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@gardenlady ·
"Attacking @stellabelle or anyone else for simply wanting to try out another decentralized social media solution..."
I'm pretty sure no one cares if stellabelle tries another outlet, but why spit on steemit on the way out the door?
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@stellabelle ·
$0.49
As I mentioned, I am not going anywhere. Steemit has problems that I have been raising for months now. I and a group of women are being ignored, and our safety and peace of mind is being attacked. Only a fool would want Steemit to sink, but I am not going to sugarcoat reality. If people cannot speak their minds, about matters they care deeply about, then this environment will fail. If you cannot accept the problems that are currently going on in reality, I am not sure what I can say about that. I have been trying to get some clear answers for months now. I am at my wits end, and people are leaving Steemit due the issues I raised, way before I raised them.
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@tuck-fheman ·
$1.60
I didn't think she did at all. She addressed an ongoing problem her and some others are experiencing that they feel (strongly) that the developers are not doing enough to solve. I'm fairly certain stellabelle likes Steemit, but simply wants the ability to better block users who are threatening, harassing and otherwise being a pain in the ass. 

She's not alone either, but she's likely the one that will get the most attention from the Dev's and at the same time draw the most ire from the user base for saying anything that remotely appears to be a complaint, as evidenced by the comments and post expressing disapproval of her simply expressing disapproval of an issue yet to be solved and expressing how another platform plans to solve that problem. 

I took no offense to her post and was happy to see her express her displeasure with having to continually deal with something many have wanted solved for months. There is a group of Steem users that feel that the Developers aren't doing enough and feel that women are not safe here. That's a big issue, especially when the appearance of a lack of sympathy for their issue is coming from the developers, which they say is not the case, yet no solutions have been implemented that satisfy those being harassed daily.

I think what you read from stellabelle was simply frustration from loving Steemit yet having to be subject to a constant barrage of hate from a minority of Steem users and she has no way to stop it and it's just progressively getting worse. This is further evidenced by the recent outburst by another female Steemian who says they will not be coming back and will tell her following on Facebook that Steem is not safe for women and that basically none of us care. That's not good marketing material right there.
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@gardenlady ·
Yes, I understood the underlying message.  But the "I'm switching because steemit is a drug den" is ridiculous and unnecessary.
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@williambanks ·
@tuck-fheman
What did I miss.  Who left saying they didn't feel safe?
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@happyphoenix ·
Okay... I will follow your opini :)
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@jesta ·
$0.02
Competition spurs innovation. 

I'm super happy there's a number of other platforms coming into existence. It's going to help everyone and really push competition on these platforms, which will make them all that much better. 

I spent the last year dominating one niche topic and there was no competition - it sucked :)
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@karnal ·
$1.01
tuck, I think people reacted so strongly because steemit made her, and now (in many peoples' eyes) she is "biting the hand that fed her".

I do not necessarily agree with the perception, but I can understand the reaction.
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@stellabelle ·
$0.49
Attachment based on personal gain is blinding people. I never said I was leaving. That was an assumption that people quickly made. I belong to no one. I am and will always be an independent creator. Steemit did not make me, I contributed 12+ hours per day to Steemit and it rewarded me for my hard work. Attachment and tunnel vision kill good things. It's good to remain objective and independent. Products are more powerful if everyone is honest.
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@tuck-fheman ·
$2.69
### Whoever thinks that Steemit made stellabelle is mistaken. 

She had quite a following before coming here and brought that following with her and I'm fairly certain a lot of them will follow her wherever she goes. She will be fine with or without Steemit and Steemit is lucky to have her and should do whatever it takes to keep her around, like solving the issue she and others have with the inability to block users. The "Mute" feature is obviously not working out as planned. It doesn't even block the people you mute from the replies tab on your own page.
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@karnal ·
$0.20
iirc the money situation was not so good before steemit for her -- but I could be wrong.

Agreed on the mute feature, it does not work as one would expect.
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@l0k1 · (edited)
It mostly does work. Just try using it and see what happens. I agree that it's not fully fixed yet, but it is better. It seems to work properly with the initial posts on a post timeline, but not so well with comments on the main branch. They still have to fix it, I absolutely agree. I am developing an app that has a block function, and I certainly won't be letting it fail to work as long as the steemit.com guys have. I gave them a prod about it and it's somewhat better. I should reopen the ticket and show some screenies. It needs more work still.

The  ticket is here:

https://github.com/steemit/steemit.com/issues/150#issuecomment-242098627

If you don't have a github account, make one, add your voice to this. It needs to be fixed completely.
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@sigmajin · (edited)
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NOt that i attacked, or even commented.

But, i do think there is a certain sense of entitlement in her post that might rub many the wrong way.

Bemoaning a system where her post  "only" made  $150 or whatever  (which would be more than many users' biggest post), or bemoaning the whales influence when she has been, arguably, one of the biggest beneficiaries of whale influence makes it appear hypocritical.

I remember in Rok's "evil whale" post, she ardently defended the system where the benevolent whales rewarded all the awesome authors with their perfect judgement (paraphrase obv) , and anyone who thought some people were getting more than they deserved were just jealous and greedy.

I really find it difficult to imagine how she might reconcile the views from that thread with the views she expressed recently.
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@l0k1 ·
I'm sticking with Steem because I like the fact that users are effectively shareholders, there is an allocated pool of rewards for posts that is given out according to votes, multiplied by the SP of the voter. I think it's a meritocracy, and it uses the well proven model of corporate shareholder systems. While it's true that in the beginning people might buy in and use this power to try and control the system, no individual, even now, can bring enough money in that if they are wrong, they will be opposed, flagged, and/or, votes will be given elsewhere than they vote, and their curation rewards will not be so great.

Furthermore, Steem is designed to allow ad-hoc enterprises to make use of the Steem infrastructure as part of their business model. I call them 'Departments', like the one I intend to create, #ascensionteam - we are building a python-based native app, that will ultimately have plugins, and give our coders the ability to test and prove ideas on the platform, that if they are good, will most likely propagate horizontally to others, such as Steemy, and steemit.com. The developers make no real limitations on what users might try to do with the blockchain, and I am sure that the competitors will do all kinds of things that will be less open, and prove to be less effective.
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@logic ·
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Considering how little reward and how many votes you get for your amazing posts, it is self evident that the important whales purposedly ignore you. 
You question the status quo designed by whale fellowship of mutual admiration.
Keep up the good work. We support you.
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@mattclarke ·
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The fact a post like this can go up, and stays up, says a lot about the authenticity of the platform.
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@nathanbrown ·
@tuck-fheman, could you tell me what the platform is that @stellebella is interested in as well as what attack to place against her?
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@norbu ·
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Agreed! But members who have a high reputation score, and greater visibility, should be careful while recommending another platform especially here on steemit itself. The fall-out from such an action is the feeling of abandonment which is felt by struggling members and the chorus of opposing views, creating more of a shit storm than meaningful debate.
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@mammasitta · (edited)
More hurricanes , meaning awesome posts and less shit please 😜 So many people who made thousands start complaining now so obviously it is all about that money. I don't feel the need to expose every step I do and what I think when frustrated but great for everybody who wants to explore new options. Competition has always been healthy to initiate changes for the better. Don't ever  bite the hand what is or was feeding you !
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@papa-pepper ·
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Great opening sentence. Keep up the good work man!
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@prufarchy ·
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It makes sense to support decentralization of social media in every form. Id rather post to three decentralized networks that offer me variety, than to one Facebook. And would rather those three existed than any of the centralized ones.
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@razvanelulmarin ·
I do not think anyone attacked stella's desire to explore.  
But saying that an nonexistent social network solved steemit's problems can't be correct. It's like saying Trump solved america's problems. 
No, he didn't, and if he gets to be president you'll see he didn't. 
Synereo maybe it won't be trump, maybe it will be Lincoln but as of now, it's all speculation.
That was my take on all this. 
Also, just because I discuss a post of hers or yours, it's not attack on the person. You can have a bad post and we can still be friends, even if i say that - in my opinion, with my arguments - the post is bad, or its idea is bad, or whatever. At least I hope :)
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@rigaronib · (edited)
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>They all are competing against the censorship and control of governments/corporations and we as a group should support them all.

I couldn't agree more with this statement. These platforms are going to change the game completely! And every last one has my support as long as they stay decentralized!
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@shadowspub ·
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Curiousity is a great driver of learning and change. Trying out new things is a great benefit to all. From what I read @stellabella isn't just jumping ship, she's going to explore Synereo and profile it on here. I look forward to her posts. 

I found Steemit because someone posting in a thread about the demise of Kickass Torrents mentioned it and I got curious. I'm still here 3 weeks later.
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@stellabelle ·
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Tuck, did you see my latest post that has the giant whale hot air balloon with 10 giant teats????? I thought you might enjoy it....

![whaleteat772fc.jpg](https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/08/30/whaleteat772fc.jpg)

https://steemit.com/censorship/@stellabelle/fearing-the-dry-whale-teat-how-censoring-our-minds-leads-to-a-crappy-experience#@hanshotfirst/re-stellabelle-fearing-the-dry-whale-teat-how-censoring-our-minds-leads-to-a-crappy-experience-20160830t223745815z
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@nathanbrown ·
Those look like whale cow teats.
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@tuck-fheman ·
:)
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@stranger27 ·
$0.02
Good post! Competition is great for all of us.
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@the-ego-is-you ·
What is the bottom right logo?
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@tuck-fheman ·
$0.02
http://akasha.world Akasha, it's the one being built on Ethereum.
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@the-future ·
I don't understand why people are so worried about that Stellabelle is not making money anymore here at Steemit. When I say she is not making money   I mean she is not making more than $500. She makes more than a lot of people here on steemit, and I don't see so many people worrying about them. She is a very creative person and a great writer, but, first of all, ​she is a person like any other person here on steemit. If she is not making so much then​ she must be more motivated and make some changes!
I hope someone will read it and tell me I'm wrong.
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@thecryptofiend ·
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Spot on.  The fighting and "tribalism" is crypto all over and it is just silly.  Only a fool puts all their eggs in one basket.

The whole point of these platforms is to enhance your life not to "rule" them.  It is about giving control back to the individual - so this idea that people should some how be in permanent servitude of Steemit and are somehow owned by it is insane.

I suspect a lot of people are using this as an opportunity to to have a go at @stellabelle and that is the main reason for that kind of response.
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@churdtzu ·
Present people with an opportunity to have a voice and to get paid ... and they use that opportunity to look for tall poppies to cut down.
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@vegascomic ·
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Did anyone else notice the AMP's big spike in price since all this discussion fired up about it over here on Steemit?
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@whatsup · (edited)
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"anyone else for simply wanting to try out another decentralized social media solution that may be more beneficial to them in one way or another is detrimental to the overall goal of supporting any and all platforms that are providing a way for the masses to ditch Facebook/Reddit/Twitter and any other social media outlet that censors and controls content."  I want to try them all!  :)
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@noscope ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCOb6Fykxz0
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