Viewing a response to: @cwow2/re-agorise-2023105t142958702z
It's because Hive is losing users and nobody wants to address these core issues that they are leaving. Did you read the post or maybe go look at the doc? Thats the discussion that we are attempting to have here. Not personal vendettas. We want to see Hive grow and it will not be accepted by the general public when things happen. We cant be billing it as the best thing since sliced bread when it's the next best thing since sliced bread. It may work fine for businesses and other Web3 companies to use. But for the general public we will need to address these issues. In order for Hive to grow we need both.
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Well, fix the issues with people abusing the system and there will be no more need for downvotes.
author | cwow2 |
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How would you propose to do that?
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I wouldn't. I dont have a problem with downvotes
author | cwow2 |
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Thats whole idea of this discussion. We didnt get to this far without an open discussion. IMO, I wanted to get rid of the down votes across the board. But I understand that they can be used for protection. In my world view the only one that can ensure ones safety is themselves. I also want to separate hive power from the post rewards. That way a whale cant just come along at the last second and wipe out a creators rewards because they want to. To me that goes against everything intended to achieve in Web3. Transactions should be between a creator and a consumer and no 3rd party should have the ability to come along and negate other consumers value of the content that they appreciated. Those are the two biggest issues to new users. IRL you find value in an authors work. You buy their book. Author is rewarded. On Hive you find value in an authors work the author gets rewarded but then loses it if someone whale has more HP doesnt value their work down votes it? That should not happen and does more to drive new users out than what comes in.
author | unklebonehead |
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Absolutely, positively 100% 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
author | agorise |
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Well, I can value spam and Ai and create a group to reap the reward pool based on me liking spam posts and nobody can do anything about it. Perfect. In IRL spammy Authors doesn't get published :) Also, check out Blurt. They have no downvotes.
author | cwow2 |
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