Top 3 main marketing goals for Hive are:
1. There can only be one.
2. Be one of the last few surviving.
3. More users.

In 1 year I see Hive: still floundering
In 5 years I see Hive: vsc having an impact
In 10 years I see Hive: one of the few still standing

My SWOT analysis of Hive marketing and promotions is:

Strengths:
- fast
- feeless
- tough crowd

Weaknesses:
- unknown to most folks
- enemy within
- overshadowed by lesser chains

Opportunities:
- wasted 
- grind
- persevere

Threats:
- bad actors within
- bad actors coming with price rises
- time

My marketing priorities in order of importance are:

I'd like to see boxes with flashy lights displaying the hive logo and a qrc code attached to poles near public gathering places.
Both temporary and more permanent placements.

The manufacture/distribution of which should be supported from the dao.
A contest for the manufactures' prototypes.
Finding places to display the boxes by hivizens.
Maybe music coming from the boxes, also by hivizens.

My personal goals/priorities as a Hive community member are:

Number go up.
There can only be one.

- How important is content creation and curation in Hive's marketing strategy?

I see content creation becoming about how the community comes together around common themes and less look at what I had for supper.

- What types of content should we focus on to attract and retain users?

Group building and not personal aggrandizement.

- How can we expand Hive's reach to new regions and demographics?

Word of mouth, that doesn't include the top 20 accounts taking half the crowd attractant for themselves 'because they can'.

- What cultural considerations should we keep in mind when marketing Hive globally?

Hive is the culture.

- What do you need Hive for?

Web3.0

- What is the main problem that Hive itself solves?

Sound money and side hustles for all.

- What is the main Hive-related challenge that you would like to see Value Plan solve?

Change the word of mouth from what was to what could have been absent greedy folks f'n it up for us all.

- What do you feel are the most successful Value Plan (or just general) promotional iniatives on Hive so far? Why?

I think the kneecappening has had the most impact.
Intentionally sabotaging the attractant with linear rewards and pay to play bidbots was a terrible thing for stinc to do to us.
The two year developmental walkabout didn't help any, either.
We still get bad mouthed because of these two things.

If valueplan can change the narrative around this, it will know some success.

- What promotional initiatives do you see doing well in 2025?

Ones that include the most hivizens.

- Have you ever been out to a Hive promotional event? 

No.

- What innovative ideas or new projects would you like to see Hive explore in 2025?

Vsc is a must.

- What types of community events or activities would you like to see more of?

More vr meetups through dlux's infrastructure.

- How can we improve communication and collaboration within the Hive community?

More participation from all of the hivizens.
Especially, @baah.

- What educational resources or content would be most beneficial for new and existing Hive members?

More activity from hive's 'official'ness.
Ie, a place that all newbs get directed to for resources, tips, community, togetherness.
Perhaps reminder popups can be sent out reminding people that we are supposed to be social directing us all to central places that we can interact/gain affinity.

- How can we better support community members in learning about Hive and its features?

Pop up reminders of what is available right now.
A list of reliable accounts that respond to questions with germane responses.


- What improvements can be made to the Hive platform to enhance user experience?

I think the ui's are doing great at this.

- Are there any specific features or tools you feel are missing or could be improved?

I would like to see a more data dense ui for the internal market.
Too much data is available to the tech savvy that is denied to the more normie users.
Specifically, if the chain has a data point available, it should be in the ui.
We are not a privacy chain, if you want privacy create a sockpuppet and don't connect it to yourself.

I would like to see [hiveconversations](https://eroche.shinyapps.io/HiveEngagement/) and other data illuminating projects incorporated into the ui's.

- What marketing strategies do you think would be most effective in attracting new users to Hive?

Word of mouth took us from #3 to out of the top 300.
Until we overcome that and start getting good reviews from outsiders, marketing is an uphill climb.

- How can we better showcase the benefits and unique aspects of Hive to a broader audience?

Build a better mousetrap.

- What types of partnerships or collaborations would you like to see Hive pursue?

I think bitpay needs to be courted for a crypto to fiat pathway.
Presuming they come back from the driveby done on their bank.
Even if we can't go directly to fiat with a prepaid credit card, perhaps they can add us to their list of accepted cryptos on the e-commerce platform.

- How can we strengthen existing partnerships to maximize their impact?

Persist.

- What strategies should Hive adopt to ensure long-term sustainability and growth?

Better word of mouth.
Let the newb attractant work unmolested by those than can molest it.

- How can we balance growth with maintaining the core values and principles of Hive?

We will first need some growth.
Attendance is way, way down from the initial launch into the broader consciousness.

- How do traditional companies/organizations/NGOs benefit from Hive?

Sound money.
Central place to find an audience.
Source of willing workers.

- How can HIVE/HBD become a global community currency? 

Marketing and production.
We should be marketing our creators at least to ourselves.
By showing that there is life outside the control freaks' matrix of fiat currencies and centralized governance.

Would it benefit traditional organizations?

Not the banks, that's for sure.

Yes, I would like to contribute the following:

- Help with procurement of Hive merch
- Help with organization
- Help with communication
- Help with administration tasks
- Help with research tasks
- Contribute to a Spaces/Townhall/chat 


Alright, hivizens, here is your bar, contribute or keep your complaints to yourself.
Hive sinks or swims on the backs of us all.

Maybe someone will split these topics up into snaps, it will likely attract more responses in the shorter format.

Let's make hive the one that everybody reaches to when they need web3.0, sound money, and friends.

!lolz
2 bots, one pizza farmer and me.
Smdh
Pitiful, hivizens, just pitiful.

The best plan is to defund all of this.
Build something of real value that generates funds like a business.
Thus increasing token price which will bring in more developers, projects and users.
Done, You're welcome.

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### <center> While writing this, my focus was on India and how Hive can capture Indian Market. </center>

#### **Hive’s Top 3 Marketing Goals**

1. <u>Marketing through Ambassadors</u> : <br>The best marketing is the kind that doesn’t feel like marketing at all. Hive’s focus should be on building a global network of ambassadors who genuinely believe in the project. Through hackathons and international events, Hive has already attracted considerable interest. By properly incentivizing these supporters (whether monetarily or in kind), we can encourage organic promotion.
2. <u>Expand Events and Hackathons Beyond Coders</u> : <br>Hive’s presence at hackathons is invaluable for engagement, but expanding these events to include marketers and other industry players can broaden our reach. By increasing our event scope, Hive can appeal to a wider audience.
3. <u>Strengthen Social Media Presence, Especially on Twitter</u> : <br>In today’s digital landscape, visibility is everything. if you’re not posting content, you risk disappearing. A robust social media presence, especially on **Twitter** and **LinkedIn**, will enable Hive to engage with the web3 communities, showcase accomplishments, and remain in the heads of potential users and investors.

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#### **Hive Vision Statement**

Hive aspires to be a central hub for Web3 gamers, educators, content creators, and more to create an empowered community of Web3 users.

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#### **Hive Mission Statement**

To empower individuals through decentralized technology and foster an ecosystem that rewards value addition to Hive Chain.

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#### **Hive Core Values**

- Gasless Transactions
- Scalability
- Content Creator Rewards

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#### **Future Vision for Hive**

- **<u>In 1 Year</u>** : <br>Hive gets onboarded with new dApps and gets marketed with an organic, community-driven approach.
- **<u>In 5 Years</u>**: <br>A strong Hive ambassador network gets created and an established Venture Group supporting the ecosystem is put in place.
- **<u>In 10 Years</u>**: <br>Hive gets positioned as a market leader and a widely adopted blockchain, recognized for its scalability and flexibility.

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#### **SWOT Analysis**

Strengths

- **<u>Gasless Ecosystem</u>** : <br>A user-friendly, cost-effective blockchain without gas fees.
- **<u>Decentralized Hive Fund (DHF)</u>** : <br>DHF supports continuous community development.
- **<u>Strong Community</u>** : <br>Engaged and loyal community backing Hive’s growth and vision.

Weaknesses

- **<u>Limited Marketing Initiatives</u>** : <br>Insufficient exposure and visibility.
- **<u>Lack of Dedicated Venture Capital</u>** : <br>Limited funding options to attract projects outside the ecosystem.
- **<u>Low Marketing ROI</u>** : <br>Current marketing efforts have not generated the expected impact.

Opportunities

- **<u>Target Game Developers</u>** : <br>Hive’s gasless structure is perfect for gaming applications, offering exponential adoption potential.
- **<u>Expand into the Indian Market</u>** : <br>With rapid blockchain adoption in India, positioning Hive here could yield substantial growth.
- **<u>Launch a Hive Venture Fund</u>** : <br>As the next bull cycle approaches, now is the time to attract investors and accelerate growth.

Threats

- **<u>Rapid Expansion of Competing Ecosystems</u>** : <br>The TON ecosystem and others are growing quickly.
- **<u>High Marketing Budgets of Competitors</u>** : <br>Competing blockchains have larger marketing budgets.
- **<u>Limited Representation at Key Industry Events</u>** : <br>Lack of Hive representatives at major Web3 conferences reduces visibility.

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I answered every question in this post.

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!PIZZA

Well, this is interesting, and deserves a big comment.

My top 3 goals 

1- more Hive users in Colombia 
2- more businesses using Hive and HBD in Colombia
3- more HBD usage to pay businesses products and providers (B2B)

Vision

I see hive as the main Web3 platform and the best side option to send and receive stable coins across countries and cities in LATAM.

Mission 

Hive should be the number 1 Web3 platform and digital wallet to international citizens, aligning with the descentralized nature of the Blockchain.

Values 

1- descentralized 
2- feeless 
3- easy to use

Where do I see Hive in the following years?

1 year as fastest growing web 3 chain in LATAM and many other third world countries.
5 years as the number 1 web3 platform for developers
10 years a the number 1 web3 platform and digital wallet

SWOT Analysis 

- Strength: Hive has a feeless, descentralized and open-to-everybody model that can unite writers, developers, investors and day-to-day funds that can be used to pay goods with an algorithmic stable coin.

Hive can take advantage of the cheap way to send and receive stable coins, to be able to give the ability to use dollars in third world countries that can have a weakness when talking about their currencies.

Hive can also bring people together as being able to serve as a social network but can also serve as a value transfer method, just like WeChat in China, but in this case it is descentralized so no política pressure or control.

-Weakness: I believe hive's greatest weakness is also it big strength, which is the inflation causes by not asking for any fee when making a transaction, this is causing inflation which has to be controlled another way. 

If the inflation is not controlled by getting new users or buying the inflation, Hive can get into a devaluation that can affect old users and become a bad cycle. This can be address by getting new users and creating a virtual economy that can put together physical and digital business to make transaction inside the platform.

-Opportunities: the world is facing times of political control over people's money and way of thinking through social media. Hive can take advantage of it's descentralized nature to bring together the free speech and free money flow across the world.

-Threats: Hive can face political pressure if becoming a big competitor of social media, but also an alternative to banks and remittances businesses.

It's not easy to fight against politics, but it's descentralized nature can help avoid being followed by politicians, more so when knowing we can send and pay with descentralized funds independently to where we are and where we are going.


Marketing priorities 

-B2B projects
-Digital/physical convergence projects
-Physical marketing initiatives
-Conferences
-Digital marketing initiatives
-Tech events/smaller events
-Other types of marketing initiatives


My priorities by being a Hive Member

-feeless and controless transactions to other Hive users
-Supporting free speech and decentralization
-Writting articles that can work as a legacy I will be leaving to my descendants.
-Investment gain via a strong HIVE
-Building a business
-Earning a profit through content creation


Content creation 

Content creation and curation come as a united department within Hive, as people are writing to get some money from it, but also curating develops the way writers should write, working as a reinforcer.

I believe curation should be focused on real life experiences, as it is the essence of a social network.


Community support

I believe the main focus should be in giving best practices to those who are beginning to develop s marketing roadmap withing their countries. So the learning curve can shorten and be more efficient with the funds used for this matter.


Global Outreach

Using a general marketing roadmap can be a fail, as many countries differ from other countries, for example, Venezuelan people look for an income to pay day-to-day expenses while Colombians see a 2$ gain from an article as a waste of time, while looking at a cashback from a purchase as something more important. Even when both countries are neighbors, the marketing plan should be different.


What do I use Hive for? 

The main use for my hive account is a value vault, as I trust I will be able to use my funds whenever I need and want to, no matter where I am, but I can also leave a legacy to my descendants.


Community engagement

I believe one of the great advantages of Hive can be used to marketing purposes, which is being able to post information and bring people together to show what they do. Therefore, I believe the Hive red carpet was a great idea to bring people from different countries toward something united. This can also be applied to other interests, just like investments, home decoration, gaming, etc.


Educational content

I believe most people will not read something and know how to do things like creating an account, so the best way to teach and follow up would be to have a close contact with a guide, it can be through discord, telegram, WhatsApp or any other way to chat in real time with a mentor.


Partnership and collaboration 

I believe partnership is something necessary to grow as a community and as a the number 1 web3 platform, however, this partnerships have to be focused in attractiving more hive users and being cost efficient.

One of the big issues I see in some Hive sponsorships relate to not having the sponsored people creating Hive accounts, so they only see Hive as a money giving institution who do not care who they are giving the money to. 

I say it would be nice to have the sponsored people create a Hive account and use it before getting a great sponsorships from us, more so when planning to be one of the top sponsors in their activities.

We can still collaborate, but this has to be more controlled about what we are getting from it and how much it will cost.


Business

This is one of the greatest advantages Hive can bring use. The use of HBD can help businesses to use a more stable currency than their national currency, which followed by the opportunity to send it to businesses across the globe, can develop partnerships and transactions with no border issues or exchange difficulties, as we all know 1 HBD will be 1 HBD anywhere.

Bringing into account that no political institution can touch the HBD, all businesses no mare how big or small they are, can have another way to receive payments and people from countries who do not support the same currency or banking system, can use HBD to purchase goods or services anywhere they are.



Involvement

Yes, I am interested in helping, as I believe I am one of the greatest Hive stakeholders in Colombia, and I feel I am more connected to its values than ever before.

I'm working on bringing more people to the ecosystem, using my example and stake to bring confidence, as I accept HBD and Hive with distriator in my business and I support other business whoa accept HBD as my first purchase choice, but I also write articles and I have a good investment amount in HP.

I had a first onboarding wave, and I'm planning to make a "posteaton" to bring those interested in networking with other hivers, since I believe we need to show businesses that there is people willing to pay with Hive/HBD so they will be more willing to accept it as a payment method.

I would also like to be a speaker and a representative of Hive at public and private events, not only because of my strong commitment but also because I believe I have the capabilities learned by my other jobs (Grow coaching trainer at Concentrix) to be able to give information to lots of people at once.

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My objectives would be to promote Hive at the grassroots level through various financial strategies. A good example is how business people can invest in HBD and benefit from its stability.

Additionally, social activities would help raise awareness about the positive impact of Hive and blockchain technology in general. Thanks for sharing this.

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This post definitely deserved a lot more comments from the communities, but anyways...

> Top 3 main marketing goals for Hive are:

1. Take it to common people, and show them how they can earn and use it. Business reviews are the best use case that people can spontaneously write, without worrying about long blog posts to earn more. And I believe Distriator and SpendHBD initiatives are niche marketing components. 
2. Explain people how they can earn stable money, by holding HBD in savings. This can attract investors. 
3. I also plan to take some physical marketing initiatives, because when people talk face to face, they are convinced more. 

> My personal goals/priorities as a Hive community member are:

1. To list HIVE in an Indian exchange, so that people can encash and see, how they can earn by creating content and use that money in their everyday live. I believe, that will work as a niche marketing strategy because word of mouth spreads faster and ultimately, it will help all of us to have a strong hive. I started working on this sometimes back, and one exchange Mudrex has responded and they said they are working on it, we may see some result soon.
2. I support free speech and decentralization, but it's hard to sell them, literally impossible. 
3. Sharing my content, and earning profit through content creation is of course what I do, but that's not a priority over other personal priorities.

> Content Creation and Curation

1. Content creation and curation are very important in Hive's marketing strategy, because that is what a new user can do to earn hive. Other than, HDB interest is more of like investment. I think, medium sized content, is relative rewarded better now a days, however short content is easy and may be we should do some lucky draws in a transparent way to lure people for short form content, if they are not good at producing medium/ long content. 

> Community Support and Development:

1. I think, we should support live stream development e.g. VIM TV, we lack that.

> Involvement

I plan to hold B2B/Distriator workshops in near future, after HIVE is listed in Mudrex. Have to explain people about their tax liabilities as well, so that they don't fear to use crypto. 

I do not understand why all of the valueplan funding cannot just be voted on by the DHF. It would be much more transparent if people would write posts for their proposals and have them voted on by the DHF.

Makes no sense to me to do it this way.

How much HIVE or HBD have all of those projects brought back to create demand for Hive tokens?

If you want the solutions. Talk with me. I have typed them before so many times for no one to understand. Let's have a conversation.

This same thing over and over, A bull run coming and a new initiative and do the same things done before cause that is all anyone knows. Except sometimes when something different is said. its ignored.

>"To create the 2025 general marketing strategy for Hive we need to outline our main goals. Our current goals are:

>"Increase listings, integrations and partnerships
>"Inspire investment in HIVE and HBD and increase their utility
>"Onboarding and retention of long-term community members"


Since I began using Hive's progenitor in May 2017 I have observed as more than a million people undertook the onboarding process and learning curve to join the community and contribute posts and comments to our library of content.  I have watched them leave too, as we have ejected them.  That library and satisfied users is all the marketing program Hive needs.  The market will not be fooled by tricks or gimmicks without content of interest presented by a satisfied userbase.  The vast majority of reasonable people lost any respect and confidence in the platform when bidbots were allowed to operate, and rightly so.  The primacy of greed, of grubby, filthy lucre being the sole purpose of every act, of every aspect of the code, could hardly have been better demonstrated.

During this same period social media has risen to become the largest sector of the global financial market, demonstrating that people face existential threats they seek means to secure themselves, their communities, and property from that mere pecuniary interest is immaterial to.  Hive's demonstrable maximization of financial interest has prevented it's utility to that market, and is why it has the worst retention of users in the social media market.

Hive's underlying offer to the market of a social media platform that resists censorship and enables people to earn from their posts through micropayments from their audience, instead of the advertising model of web2 social media platforms that remunerate only the most popular creators, has not failed to attract users, but it has failed to retain them because it did not live up to it's offer. The narrative wasn't left to the creators, the people discussing the things that matter to them, but has been managed for the purposes of the majority owners of the platform, which is and has been ~3 dozen whales.  

The market revealed that onboarding was not the problem.  The UI was not the problem.  The platform failed to deliver meaningful censorship resistance.  It failed to deliver even modest earnings to the vast majority of those users.  After overcoming onboarding and UI issues these users began to post and comment, and then encountered unrestrained taxation of their author rewards as the whales' minions used their ninjamined stakes to flag them continually, zeroing their rewards serially until they left.  The bidbots were almost worse than the flaggots at destroying Hive's reputation and userbase, but the two together rightly caused respect and confidence in the platform to evaporate.

Almost every user that joined the platform quit because the dynamic offered was not what was actually delivered.  Rather than provide a list of the folks that were flagged off the platform, let's do the opposite:  make a list of folks that have joined and stayed, particularly those with substantial audiences, so called 'influencers'.  The number that came and tried to make a go of it shows that the onboarding process and the UI didn't prevent them from posting.  They were driven off after they came.  Retention is basically zero.

Zero.

It doesn't matter that any of us might disagree with any or all of their views or how popular they were.  Any and all of these views are part of the conversations and ferment of the free speech market which Hive is dependent on serving, and only insofar as Hive allows the market to self regulate can Hive prosper as the platform on which that occurs.  Hive has not allowed that market to operate, and Hive does not prosper.  There are two options the market has regarding a product: to buy the product or not to buy the product.  But that is pure free market capitalism, and the platform can allow producers to prosper or tax their production intolerably.  Hive hasn't just favored some producers over others.  It has suppressed all of them equally with unrestrained taxation.

As Hive taxed their income here to prevent them earning rewards, it cut it's own throat.  Many of them continue to thrive on other platforms, which reveals that Hive is less able than those platforms at enabling free speech to earn it's creators income.  Hive will continue to be outperformed by other platforms that do not financially oppress and censor free speech as much as Hive does.  Hive has burned through the market of early adopters, and those that have been driven off tell people what happened.  That is Hive's marketing program in operation.  As long as new people onboarded, their investments could be absorbed, but now that very few make the attempt that income has dried up, leaving only the cash on hand - the DHF - left for the whales to extract.    

As long as unrestrained taxation continues - and it continues to this day - Hive will drive users away, and it's userbase will continue to shrink.  Accordingly, Valueplan is not surmounting the one challenge that prevents Hive from growing and increasing the value of it's token, which is retention of users.  The power to elect witnesses governs Hive, and has since the advent of it's progenitor.  ~3 dozen accounts today retain the majority of stake in Hive, and thus completely control governance.  Distribution of Hive has not decentralized and this maintains governance centralized in those ~3 dozen accounts.  

What Valueplan could do is to curate posts from people that post on Hive to encourage them to continue posting on Hive, with the strictest mechanisms to exclude bots and socks from such curation.  It could completely counter every DV that isn't cast on spam or a scam.  Finally, it could DV votebots and similar scams that continue to operate on Hive.  ~3 dozen whales (or some subset) fund spaminator, hw, and etc. to DV users and drive them away.  Censorship of the free speech published on Hive has nothing to do with spam or scams, but ensures continued centralization of governance by preventing distribution.  I expect them to continue to secure the whales' sole and exclusive power to govern Hive until the last satoshi of value has been wrung from it, the witnesses give up, and it ceases to exist. 

Every lame argument that DV's aren't censorship, aren't taxation, and don't matter can be trotted out as they have been for the last 7 years to no avail.  If Hive surmounts the user retention issue, every other goal of Valueplan is either the natural consequence of a growing userbase and token increasing in value, or is greatly facilitated by those metrics, and nothing else Valueplan - or anything else - can do will.  Every other expenditure of funds will simply fritter away those funds without benefit to the platform and it's community.  However, funds disbursed by Valueplan do seem to benefit some specific people.

>"Value Plan is a community-driven marketing and promotion initiative and to function as intended requires feedback."

I find this statement utterly contradicted by the refusal to provide receipts for expenditures that are necessary to verify funds are utilized for stated purposes.  Multiple parties (@hecatonquirox, @atlashv96, @doze, and others) have stated that Valueplan has facilitated <a href="https://peakd.com/stopswc/@hecatonquirox/most-expensive-arena-in-the-history-of-hive-blockchain-stop-swc">criminal fraud</a> (it's possible people have already contacted tips.fbi.gov or other law enforcement agencies with evidence of such fraud.  Given the interest of the US State Department in Venezuela it would be unwise of them to fail to proactively address any potential to be accused of funding terrorism), and despite providing receipts for expenditures could disprove those accusations @guiltyparties has <a href="https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@guiltyparties/sjnnl0">directly refused</a> to provide receipts for those specific expenditures.  @lordbutterfly has received <a href="https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@blanchy/valueplan-the-numbers-payouts-in-august-part-1">substantial payment</a> he has <a href="https://peakd.com/hive-104500/@theycallmemarky/how-many-weeks-do-you-think-powerdown-should-be#@lordbutterfly/re-valued-customer-skvrmr">falsely claimed he did not</a>.

>"The only thing I was paid for is organizing Hivefest."


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@guiltyparties is preventing accounting for Valueplan disbursements.  Disbursements that cannot be accounted for cannot be funded without facilitating fraud, and fraud is reported by several eyewitnesses with direct knowledge.  @guiltyparties is facilitating fraud.  @lordbutterfly is lying about some of the largest disbursements Valueplan makes.  Valueplan has given every indication it is a vector for fraud and theft of the large sums of money it disburses, and there's much more evidence than I provide here.  More information is available in the detailed posts @blanchy has made regarding <a href="https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@blanchy/valueplan-the-numbers-october-payouts-part-i">Valueplan</a>, and in comments and posts from accounts mentioned above, which anyone considering Valueplan or anyone involved in it should read and understand before voting on any proposal or participating in any endeavor it, or any of it's principals, are involved in.  

I don't use Hive as money, and work for a living, so my interest and availability to investigate these matters has been too limited to exhaust the copious evidence of fraud available onchain.  Every inquiry I have made leads to the same obfuscation, lies, and fraud that appear to be the purpose of Valueplan's disbursements, without exception. My only involvement is as a Hive user with interest in the DHF benefiting Hive, but after seven years observing the maintenance of governance by the whales I do not have any hope that will change.  Folks with substantial stake, or intent to acquire substantial stake, or that have accepted Valueplan funds innocently should address these matters diligently.  $M's are flowing out of the DHF, and stripping businesses of their cash on hand is a common practice of vulture capitalists like KKR and Bain Capital Partners, and that looks like what is happening to Hive.

I am confident victims of fraud have reported it to law enforcement, and enforcement will follow investigation, exacerbated by political interest in Venezuela.  Sadly this threatens good people with integrity who have received funds from Valueplan, may have never suspected such accusations existed, and who would be wise to keep receipts and document carefully any interactions with Valueplan or it's principals to prove they aren't committing theft by fraud, or worse.  Someone is, or will follow the money.  Criminals offer up scapegoats as patsies, and will make you a patsy if they can.  The best way to prove you are innocent is to not take money from suspect sources.  

Because of this taint I can only recommend Valueplan provide accurate and verifiable accounting and receipts for every expense it has incurred and all funds it has disbursed.  No strategy will matter until that taint is dispelled because failure to verifiably account disbursements facilitates fraud.  Until accurate and verifiable accounting of Valueplan's disbursement of funds is made I strongly recommend everyone vote the return proposal instead of anything related to Valueplan, and that everyone that has been involved in Valueplan take action to fully account for any disbursements from Valueplan to prove their innocence.