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· @vikisecrets · (edited)
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Russia has recognized the independence of the separatist regions in the Ukraine. Sanctions would be a shot in the knee for the EU. Russian perspective vs. American.
Russland hat die Unabhängigkeit der Separatisten-Gebiete Donezk und Luhansk in der Ukraine anerkannt und "Friedenstruppen" in den Osten der Ukraine entsandt. Die Frage ist, in wie weit der Konflikt weiter eskalieren wird.

Denke nicht, dass Russland die Ukraine annektieren wird, sondern könnte mir eher vorstellen, dass Putin einen Regime-Wechsel in der Ukraine herbeiführen möchte, auch mit militärischen Mitteln.

### Amerikanische Sicht

Russland möchte die Sowjetunion wiederherstellen. Russland ist wie ein toxischer Freund der seine Ex mit Gewalt zurückholen möchte.

### Russische Sicht

Russland fühlt sich durch die NATO-Erweiterung an seiner Grenze bedroht. Ein NATO-Beitritt der Ukraine wäre so ähnlich als würde Kuba der Volksrepublik China beitreten und China Atomwaffen auf Kuba stationieren. Das würde die USA auch nicht dulden. Russland wirft der Ukraine auch vor, die russische Bevölkerung in der Ukraine zu unterdrücken.

Die Wahrheit liegt wahrscheinlich irgendwo in der Mitte.

### Sanktionen wären ein Schuss ins Knie

Allerdings bin ich gegen Sanktionen, die uns die USA aufzwingen möchten. Die USA möchte uns das Gas abdrehen (North Stream 2 einstellen) und am liebsten alle Wirtschaftsbeziehungen mit Russland kappen.

Das wäre ein Schuss ins Knie. So furchtbar eine Diktatur und ein Krieg ist, so scheinheilig wäre es jetzt, einseitig alle wirtschaftlichen Beziehungen zu Russland aufzugeben, während wir mit anderen Diktaturen und Staaten, die das Völkerrecht und Menschenrechte verletzen, weiterhin Handel betreiben.

### Sanktionen gegen China, Saudi Arabien, USA?

Nach dieser Logik könnten wir mit dem Großteil der Welt keinen Handel mehr betreiben, wegen der Hong-Kong-Krise keine Waren und Rohstoffe mehr aus China importieren, kein Erdöl aus Saudi Arabien und auch den Handel mit den USA müssten wir einstellen, da die USA auch schon Kriege vom Zaun gebrochen hat, um ihre Interessen zu verfolgen.

Ist wieder ein großes Dilemma, was die EU machen soll. Denkt ihr, dass der Konflikt in der Ukraine noch weiter eskalieren wird?

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## English

Russia has recognized the independence of the separatist regions of Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine and sent "peacekeeping troops" to eastern Ukraine. The question is to what extent the conflict will escalate further.

I don't think that Russia will annex Ukraine, but I could rather imagine that Putin wants to bring about a regime change in Ukraine, also by military means if necessary.

### American view

Russia wants to restore the Soviet Union. Russia is like a toxic boyfriend who wants to take back his ex by force.

### Russian view

Russia feels threatened by NATO expansion on its border. Ukraine joining NATO would be like Cuba joining the People's Republic of China and China stationing nuclear weapons in Cuba. The United States would not tolerate that either. Russia also accuses Ukraine of oppressing the Russian population in Ukraine.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

### Sanctions would be a shot in the knee for the EU

However, I am against sanctions that the U.S. wants to impose on the EU. The USA would like to cut off the European gas supply (stop North Stream 2) and preferably cut all economic relations with Russia.

That would be a shot in the knee for the EU. As terrible as a dictatorship and war is, it would now be hypocritical to unilaterally cut all economic ties with Russia while we continue to trade with other dictatorships and states that violate international law and human rights.

### Sanctions against China, Saudi Arabia, and even the U.S.?

According to this logic, we could stop trading with most of the world, stop importing goods and raw materials from China because of the Hong Kong crisis, stop importing oil from Saudi Arabia, and we would also have to stop trading with the U.S. because the U.S. has also started wars to pursue its own interests.

It's again a big dilemma what the EU should do. Do you think that the conflict in Ukraine will escalate even further?

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@amirl ·
Russia invaded and the USD is 85 Ruble. I think the russian thug did a big mistake. He is old and no longer care for other people. He might be ill and has nothing to lose. I hope the Russian people will be smart enough to take down this thug and the oligarchs.
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@apshamilton ·
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Putin teaches Biden that geopolitics is not a game for senile old men trying to score points domestically. 

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@biggi ·
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Man, hoffentlich eskaliert es nicht😔😔😔😔😢
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@biggi ·
Ne, war da beim Corona Test 😉😎 mein Herz Blatt 😉
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@herz-ass · (edited)
Dir kann nichts passieren. Du trägst ja ständig diese tolle Maske. Sogar alleine im Auto.
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@chinito ·
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I don't know about 'esculate'. I think there need to be some decisions made and all sides need to agree.. Is a war really a possibility over this?
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@herz-ass · (edited)
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Eine treffende Analyse! Aufgrund der geopolitischen Gegebenheiten sind Russland und Europa zunächst die Verlierer. Auch die Bewohner der Ukraine gehören zu den Geschädigten, egal wieviel EUR die EU ihnen schenkt. Mit dem vom CIA angezettelten Maidan-Putsch haben die USA die Vision des vor wenigen Jahren verstorbenen Strategen Zbigniew Brzeziński verwirklicht. 
Nur durch die Präsidentschaft von Trump wurde die Zementierung des Zustands für vier Jahre unterbrochen. Nun ist Victoria Nuland wieder am Drücker und kann hemmungslos zündeln.
Die Chance für Europa läge darin, den triefenden Moralismus beiseite zu legen und ein friedvolles, fruchtbares Zusammenwirken von Russlands Rohstoffreichtum mit der Technologie Europas zu ermöglichen.
Ich denke, dass es nach einem langwierigen Prozess der Anerkennung der Realitäten auch so kommen wird. Allerdings muss erst die bislang herrschende Politmafia in D, Ö, I und F abgelöst werden.
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@jfang003 ·
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I don't know if it will escalate further but I think it might. The moment Russia decided to use their actual military, I don't know if we can just ignore it. However the media does like to fear monger so I have no idea at this point. 

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@leaky20 ·
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I appreciate that you're keeping us posted on the situation. 
Seeing both perspectives is helpful as well. 
The actual news (on both sides) is often more akin to propaganda than any sort of truthful information.  
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@lichtblick ·
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Die EU soll sich raushalten. Hat eh nichts zu melden ;-)
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@mein-senf-dazu ·
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4 Tage später, es ist weiter Eskaliert. Wie weit wird es noch gehen? Finde das ganz schlimm was da momentan passiett;( einfach nur grausam.
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@orionvk ·
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Ich muss sagen, dass ich irgendwie mit einer stärkeren Reaktion von den Märkten gerechnet hätte. 😂
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@vikisecrets ·
war vermutlich bereits eingepreist, denke, dass sich der Kryptomarkt bald wieder erholen wird, da der Nutzen von Krypto in so einem Kriegs/Sanktionsszenario sogar noch größer wird.
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@wirago ·
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Aaahh... Jetzt versteh ich's auch :D
Das einzige was das bisher gebracht hat ist Stress und ein Krach an den Börsen (und Cryptos). Danke dafür...
Hoffentlich ist mehr heiße Luft und Säbel rasseln dahinter, fürchte aber, dass da noch mehr kommt :/
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@worldstories ·
Russia wants to annex a large number of regions and lands belonging to it, as it says, in order to confront America and control  balances of the world. This could result in a massive war😕
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