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What Nostr could learn from Hive, Brave and Twitter: Nostr needs Automatic Zaps, a reward system. by vikisecrets

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What Nostr could learn from Hive, Brave and Twitter: Nostr needs Automatic Zaps, a reward system.
Was Nostr von Hive, Brave und Twitter lernen könnte: Nostr braucht automatische Zaps, ein Reward-System.

Im Moment gibt es bei Nostr die Möglichkeit, einzelnen Postings (Notes) oder einem User (Nostriche) ein paar Sats mit Bitcoin Lightning zu spenden. Diese Spenden werden in Nostr auch Zaps genannt.

So cool die Zaps auch sind, man probiert es einmal aus und freut sich, dass man mit Bitcoin jetzt auch Micro-Transaktionen auf Social Media machen kann, aber Zaps sind auf Nostr eher die Ausnahme als die Regel.

Der ganze Prozess dauert ein paar Sekunden, man muss die App wechseln (Lightning Wallet) und dann auf den Transfer warten. Das ist nichts, was man so beiläufig wie einen Like auf Twitter oder ein Upvote auf Hive machen kann.

Sogar Power-User wie Jack Dorsey bekommen auf Nostr pro Posting nur ein paar Zaps. Die meisten User gehen leer aus.

Die Lösung wäre automatische Zaps, so ähnlich wie auf Hive, im Brave Browser oder seit neuestem auch auf Twitter.

Die Idee ist, User auf Nostr zahlen eine kleine monatliche Gebühr (zum Beispiel für den Usernamen, die Verifikation oder zusätzliche Features etc.). Sagen wir 1000 Sats pro Monat. Die Sats werden dann jeden Monat automatisch an die Frontends und Relays, die man verwendet, und an die User, die man likt, ausbezahlt. Geniales Konzept.

Das Verhältnis könnte zum Beispiel 10-10-80 sein, d.h. je 10% für die Frontends und Relays und 80% an die User.

Das wäre so ähnlich wie auf Hive oder im Brave Browser. Und auch Twitter verteilt jetzt einen Teil der Werbeeinnahmen an Power-User und ermöglicht es, einzelnen Usern mit einem bezahlten Abo (Subscription) zu folgen.

Nur User, die sich für automatische Zaps angemeldet haben und die monatliche Gebühr zahlen, können automatische Zaps verdienen. Damit könnte man die Teilnahme incentivieren und auf die Art gleichzeitig das Netzwerk finanzieren.

Was haltet ihr von der Idee? Habt ihr Nostr und Zaps schon ausprobiert? Würdet ihr eine sehr kleine monatliche Gebühr für ein dezentrales Social Media zahlen, wenn ihr im Gegenzug auch etwas verdienen könnt?

## Nostr

![nostr-logo-1.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/vikisecrets/23wWJds48hNXn76BVrKV6Eyie1A1RNQvptjqgnB84gwdubP234miJ3JqCUMFxJRwzV1hc.jpg)

https://nostr.com/

## My Nostr address (vikisecrets)

npub17jeft6xuk365aphusnuqxyu6s8ydm6veha9jj4snnuz9gcykrzvs6tnwnd

https://primal.net/profile/npub17jeft6xuk365aphusnuqxyu6s8ydm6veha9jj4snnuz9gcykrzvs6tnwnd

## How to improve Nostr with automatic zaps (Note)

https://primal.net/e/note1a7gapgy20qeg3klx6y5752jusa8043hv63cym005f3tw6730wufsaftysd

## Twitter

https://twitter.com/vikisecretscom/status/1681613372570173440

## English

Nostr needs automatic zaps, a reward system.

At the moment, Nostr offers the possibility to donate a few sats to individual posts (Notes) or to a user (Nostriches) with Bitcoin Lightning. These tips are also called Zaps in Nostr.

As cool as Zaps are, you try it once and are happy that you can now make micro-transactions on social media with Bitcoin, but Zaps are the exception rather than the rule on Nostr.

The whole process takes a few seconds, you have to switch apps (Lightning Wallet) and then wait for the transfer. It's not something you can do as casually as a Like on Twitter or an Upvote on Hive.

Even power users like Jack Dorsey only get a few zaps per post on Nostr. Most users go away empty-handed.

The solution would be automatic zaps, similar to the ones on Hive, Brave Browser, or more recently Twitter.

The idea is, users on Nostr pay a small monthly fee (for example for the username, verification or additional features etc.). Let's say 1000 sats per month. The sats are then paid out automatically each month to the frontends and relays you use, and to the users you like. Powerful concept.

For example, the ratio could be 10-10-80, i.e. 10% each to the frontends and relays and 80% to the users.

That would be similar to what you see on Hive or Brave Browser. Twitter also started to distributes a portion of its ad revenue to power users and allows individual users to offer paid subscriptions (unlockable content).

Only users who have signed up for automatic Zaps and pay the monthly fee can earn automatic Zaps. This could be used to incentivize participation and fund the network at the same time.

What do you think about this idea? Have you tried Nostr and Zaps already? Would you pay a very small monthly fee for a decentralized social media if you could earn something in return?

*Live your Secrets and Hive Prosper* 🍯

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@allentaylor ·
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I've never seen a rewards system based on voluntary tips that are paid out from wallet to wallet work. On Publish0x, readers "tip" authors by clicking a button and the tip is generated on the blockchain by that action. The reader then decides how much of the tip to give to the author and retain for himself. The default is 80% for the author and 20% for the reader. I've received as much as 100% from readers, which is nice.

While Publish0x isn't perfect, I like that system better because it doesn't rely on readers voluntarily taking value out of their wallets and sharing it with someone else, something most people won't do. Readers are actually incentivized to tip authors because they know they'll also receive a part of the tip.

A similar system on Nostr might lead to more adoption.
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@vikisecrets ·
Good point, I think Nostr would need something similar.
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If done in this way, it will be of great benefit to all. 
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@jfang003 ·
I haven't used it but it could be a profitable venture if you have the following there. Just like how there are a lot of people trying out Twitter blue now that they have seen the revenue come in.
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@kungfukid ·
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if they could make something similar to hive that would be cool.
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@maliric ·
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that would be great. lets hope they could read your suggestion

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@malos10 ·
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I think automatic zaps are a great idea for Nostr. It would make it much easier for users to support their favorite content creators and reward them for their work. It would also help to incentivize participation on the platform and make it more attractive to users.
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@vikisecrets ·
Ich denke beides wäre möglich, für Werbeeinnahmen braucht man viele User und eine große Reichweite, daher wäre so ein bezahltes Abo-Modell am Anfang vlt vorteilhaft. Wenn die Gebühr nicht so groß ist und man damit auch das Netzwerk finanziert, würden vlt doch einige mitmachen.
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@mein-senf-dazu ·
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Naja so viele braucht man gar nicht, denke die sollte schon da sein. Da kann man schon einiges mit einnehmen.
Gerade wenn man es in einer App integriert hat.

Denke die Nutzer wären schon Erfreut wenn sie erstmal jeden Tag 1-5 Satoshi anderen kostenlos senden können. Und dass sollte kein Problem sein.
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@mima2606 ·
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Wie funktioniert denn das Reward System vom Brave Browser?

LG Michael

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@vikisecrets ·
Brave verkauft Pop-Up-Werbung und Werbung auf der "New Tab"-Page. Ein Teil der Werbeeinnahmen werden dann an die Seiten gespendet, die die User am meisten ansurfen, bzw. an die User selbst als Incentive, Werbung anzuschauen. Jeder User entscheidet mit seinem Surfverhalten, welche Websites, wieviel bekommen.
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@qwr ·
I have no idea about that before. That's great
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@thehockeyfan-at ·
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@valggav ·
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no price is high if it brings profit. I would pay the fee
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