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LESSON LEARNED - UPDATED INFORMATION - EDITS DO NOT COUNT AS NEW POSTS by winstonwolfe

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· @winstonwolfe · (edited)
$86.41
LESSON LEARNED - UPDATED INFORMATION - EDITS DO NOT COUNT AS NEW POSTS
UPDATE: - As it turns out, edits had absolutely NOTHING to do with this issue, and I can't apologize profusely enough, everyone. This whole thing was completely my own fault, and I regret posting this without doing my research and waiting for help to arrive to help me look into this. I thought I had it figured out.
You won't see this kind of behavior from me again. 

Therefore, what I would like to do with any earnings that I create with this thread is simply to 

# GIVE IT ALL AWAY.

If you replied to this thread from the time it was created until 2:26PM Central Time, 
## I am going to split every transferrable dollar evenly to everyone here. 

I promised to serve this community and be human to the people I encounter here, and therefore in this scenario, I feel that would be the best course of action.

See you at payout, everybody.

EDIT: At this rate, with losing votes and garnering downvotes for this *(which I'm not complaining about, I'd be doing it too)*, there may not be much left to divide up, but even if I can only give you guys pennies, I'm doing it.
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@acidyo ·
"I proofread AFTER I post."

I do this a lot too. Gotta learn to be patient and only post when you are 99% sure.
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@alefernandez ·
I´m reading this post, seconds after edit my post. :(
https://steemit.com/steemit/@alefernandez/sbd-price-is-backing-to-uusds-1-00-i-see-a-lot-of-chinnesse-writing
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@alexgr ·
$3.17
This is extremely counter-intuitive and there are also some issues with photo uploading that may necessitate some edits and re-edits... it should be fixed IMO and exclude edits.
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@cobaltskky ·
I think I edited one post six times because the photo insertion button through me off.  So much for getting anything for that post!
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@winstonwolfe ·
Hang tight on that. Based on what I'm seeing from one of the whales, my post here could be incorrect.
I kind of hope that it is, too, because just like everyone else here, I need to be able to edit.
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@greenhatter ·
Yes, I've noticed the same thing with the way they upload pictures, especially recently. I always have to edit, go in and change the html link to the direct link because they seem to change it to include a // before the link. I haven't noticed nor had this problem until very recently however. It used to work just fine linking to photos.
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@najoh ·
I got the same problem, i asked why to the community and they only told me that curation rewards took the rest out of it. But i don't believe it for a second. I believe that the money is just gone. My post was at 190 just seconds before payout, then when payout came, i got 100.
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@complexring ·
If the post showed 190 at the time of payout and you received 100, that means you received 100/190 = 52.63% of the total rewards for the post.  Remember that the payout numbers are the TOTAL amounts to the author and to content curators (upvoters).
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
$0.68
Wanna know what's funny? I have another point to add to my post...
...but I'm afraid to edit it. So I've decided I'm on board with everyone else that this isn't cool.

That point is that posts get "bumped" to the top of the Active pages when they get edited, which could be a vulnerability that spammers would exploit. They also get bumped when a comment is posted. So to fix this issue, they could simply remove "edit bumps".
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@changli-deng ·
Hi!I am deng,Welcome to my space
https://steemit.com/@changli-deng
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@condra ·
Exactly. Edits should not count as posts, and edits should not bump activity  :(
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@teamsteem · (edited)
$6.61
I gonna freaking cry! 

I'll be rob like crazy for my last post. Oh my god this is hard to take. I don't know why it wasn't mentioned in the release. I feel like this should have been mentioned even though it was obvious. Damn.
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@alifton ·
We all make mistakes.  What's more important is you owned it and made amends.  In my eyes it's all good brother.
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@alyssas ·
$0.03
Good catch - I admit I am not up to speed with the implications of the latest fork and rely on people like you to shout about all the quirks!

A lot of people were continuously editing in order to get their posts to feature high on the "active" tab. I guess with this change, they are going to have to get comments to do the job (and I suppose that's what the comment bots are for!)
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@anduweb ·
I think I might be in the same boat with [my article here](https://steemit.com/steemit/@anduweb/billboards-nah-i-rented-the-top-banner-space-on-one-of-the-most-renowned-blogs-in-romania). I edited it 3 times after I posted it to add additional information :(
It's at about 570$ right now. We'll see how much it will actually pay out.
But:
https://i.imgflip.com/vpbeg.jpg
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@ann-hoy ·
Was not aware each edit counts as a new post, and put you over your limit.  Signed a fellow editing fiend.
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@winstonwolfe ·
Hang tight on accepting this as fact, @ann-hoy - the jury actually still seems to be out on this.
I'm using this thread as a test to see what happens at payout. Still got about 4 hours left, according to steemstats.com.
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@ashbyis ·
A good heads up since I like to post my pictures individually. Might have to switch to a bulk or spread them out more. I appreciate the heads up, Thanks!!!
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@bbrewer ·
Thanks for explaining this mystery to me. I was wondering why I was losing value at payout!
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@winstonwolfe ·
As it turns out, this information was incorrect. I'm sorry for the scare. :(
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@beanz ·
Thanks for the warning!  I have been foolishly editing mine when I find good articles to link with mine.  Here's my article on [where the money comes from](https://steemit.com/steem/@beanz/where-does-the-money-come-from).
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@winstonwolfe ·
As it turns out, this information was incorrect. I'm sorry for the scare. :(
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@beanz ·
Oh, somebody else told me it's some kind of error in the algorithm and not intentional.  I don't know what to believe lol.
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@billynomates ·
Quite glad i read this. Bit of a noob to Steem. I don't know how you earn money from a post, and i didn't know you got penalised for posting too much. So all in all, pretty informative and should stop me from making the same mistake. 
Thank you.
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@winstonwolfe ·
As it turns out, this information was incorrect. I'm sorry for the scare. :(
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@bitcoiner · (edited)
There really should be a tooltip on the Edit link that gives a warning! And then in the editor next to the Post button!
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@bitlord ·
Oh! I noticed it too late...thank you  for the info!
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@bkkshadow ·
Thanks for approaching this in a calm and rational way, and using this post to test if your theory is correct or not. I learn something new about steemit everyday, usually from posts like this, and then tomorrow i do it better and know a little more. Don't forget we are still in Beta, expect the odd glitch in the matrix ;)
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
Hey no problem. That was my promise to the community from the start - to help the community.
I decided I can't be mad about something I spent literally nothing but my time on to start this whole experience.
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@bkkshadow ·
Agree 100%. I view steemit as an organic being that is evolving around us and with us, so we can either choose to be part of the problem or part of the solution.
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@bones · (edited)
$2.08
There must be a way to fix this. I don't think the intention of the hard fork was to penalize people for editing. The intention was to limit people spamming low quality posts. Editing shows someone cares and wants to make their content even higher quality.
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@bones ·
Well, at least we now know what happened now.
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@faddat ·
I think this is a really big problem for the same reasons and would like to see it resolved.   I edit my posts to improve quality.
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
True, but if you think of your post like a book you want to publish, well...if it were a real book that's already been published, you CAN'T edit it. You're stuck with it. Looks like it's just best to get all your edits out of your system before posting it.
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@bones ·
Yes, but with a book, you usually have an editor look it over and have someone proofread for you. I don't think anyone is going to hire a staff to do a blog here. Good thing we are still in the Beta phase of this project. I'm sure Ned and Dan will come up with a solution to this problem.
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@thecryptofiend ·
Yes but you will never catch everything though.  It's just how things are.  It would be sad if we were lumbering ourselves with limitations of ancient technology in the 21st century.
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@winstonwolfe ·
After some thinking, I'm with you that if this is true it should be dealt with accordingly. I've already encountered reasons to edit this post, but won't do it because I want to see what happens at today's payout.
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@busser ·
Thank you for the info. I usually edited each post 2 or 3 times . There are too many letters in white paper.... Especially pictures link - it's hell
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@cloh76 ·
This explains a lot.  I was wondering why my payout was less then expected.  Thanks for the heads up
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
Keep in mind that the amount you get paid is 75% of the total visible next to the thread. The other 25% goes to the curators. If your amount still shows what you ORIGINALLY expected, then yours may actually be correct.
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@cloh76 ·
Understood.  One more thing... Do replies to posts or replies to replies count toward your post  count?  I assume they dont?
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@cobaltskky ·
Thank you for telling me this!!  I've posted a lot of photos, and it seems like the photo insertion button is broken?  It strips out the http: from the beginning of the links to my pics.  So, I go in and edit, and reinsert it.  That's at least two edits.  

This gives our newbs a disincentive to try different things and learn. :/
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@cobaltskky ·
I'm keeping it up.  It atleast got us thinking about edits and posts and payouts from a different angle.
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@comealong ·
@winstonwolfe good to know lol I go back to edit nonstop -_-
Thank you for this!
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@condra ·
Just to be anal and clarify...
**Editing the title** - Does that also not count as a post?

I've edited titles a few times to experiment with "clickbaity" headlines. I wonder if that's why my author_curate_reward is so dreadful   :/
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@winstonwolfe ·
I'm going to go ahead and say no. I imagine this falls under the blanket statement that @dantheman made, which is that editing simply doesn't count as a new post.
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
Changing the title doesn't change the URL that gets created when you originally make the post, so it shouldn't have any effect on it.
👍  
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@criptomen ·
Я жду свою долю:D
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@cybercodetwins ·
Wow. I did not notice this at all!!! You are very helpful and fanatic on getting this word out to the community to not do the same mistakes. Thank you!
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@dantheman ·
$10.67
It should not include edits. If so that is a bug.
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@abit · (edited)
$27.47
That post has `"reward_weight":1519`, so 15% of reward was paid. Checking..

//Edit: looks like it's not a bug, but caused by the author's posting behavior. Still checking..

//Edit2:
The system is working perfectly. When a post is made, the reward weight is decided according to historical data and won't change. The weight can be checked in https://steemd.com/, for example https://steemd.com/steemit/@winstonwolfe/lesson-learned-i-got-the-payout-i-deserved-get-your-post-perfect-before-posting-do-not-edit-it .
The author DID post too many post in these days before that high reward post. 
Related data is here:
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1. "created":"2016-07-26T17:43:51", "reward_weight":10000, https://steemd.com/steemit/@winstonwolfe/i-m-finally-ramping-up
2. "created":"2016-07-26T18:36:36", "reward_weight":10000, https://steemd.com/steemit/@winstonwolfe/jl777-why-do-you-have-so-many-upvote-bots
3. "created":"2016-07-26T22:13:21", "reward_weight":10000, https://steemd.com/steemit/@winstonwolfe/helpful-interaction-advice-for-you-newbies
4. "created":"2016-07-26T23:27:27", "reward_weight":10000, https://steemd.com/steemit/@winstonwolfe/weird-error-when-trying-to-post
5. "created":"2016-07-26T23:40:27", "reward_weight":7906,  https://steemd.com/video/@winstonwolfe/let-s-make-a-steemit-music-video-everyone-is-invited
6. "created":"2016-07-27T03:51:51", "reward_weight":7202,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/my-absolute-favorite-image-of-me-and-my-little-boy
7. "created":"2016-07-27T06:45:33", "reward_weight":6045,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/between-fairplay-and-hartsel
8. "created":"2016-07-27T13:01:24", "reward_weight":6939,  https://steemd.com/funny/@winstonwolfe/in-a-world
9. "created":"2016-07-27T13:45:51", "reward_weight":5006,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/a-former-home-a-study-in-textures-part-i
10."created":"2016-07-27T14:19:30", "reward_weight":3762,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/bridal-double-exposure
11."created":"2016-07-27T15:14:48", "reward_weight":3026,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/a-former-home-a-study-in-textures-part-ii
12."created":"2016-07-27T17:18:39", "reward_weight":2737,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/dancer-with-flying-books
13."created":"2016-07-27T19:25:36", "reward_weight":2518,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/a-former-home-a-study-in-textures-part-iii
14."created":"2016-07-27T22:13:45", "reward_weight":2475,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/snowy-silhouette
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16."created":"2016-07-27T23:47:09", "reward_weight":1773,  https://steemd.com/steemit/@winstonwolfe/i-m-able-to-give-away-pennies-now-d
17."created":"2016-07-28T03:28:27", "reward_weight":1958,  https://steemd.com/steemit/@winstonwolfe/so-what-does-everyone-do-for-a-living
18."created":"2016-07-28T04:12:42", "reward_weight":1679,  https://steemd.com/photography/@winstonwolfe/panoramic-of-a-friend-s-wedding-ceremony-location
19."created":"2016-07-28T05:08:21", "reward_weight":1484,  https://steemd.com/meme/@winstonwolfe/it-s-a-what
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```
By the way, sorry, I flagged this post.
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@anduweb ·
Hi @abit. Trying to understand a bit the data. Here's what I see on steemd for my post here:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@anduweb/billboards-nah-i-rented-the-top-banner-space-on-one-of-the-most-renowned-blogs-in-romania
`reward_weight	10,000` - does this mean 10% is paid to the curators? It was more towards the 25% (220 out of 900).
Thanks!

My conclusions:
1. total_payout_value should be renamed to author payout value for the sake of clarity
2. Either post pending payout should not contain curator rewards or post payout value after the payout shoudl.

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@faddat ·
Abit, thank you very much. I'm going to check my own records now.
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@pfunk ·
Downvoting for a hysterical and unresearched post containing misinformation about Steem itself is a legitimate use of a downvote.
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
Please let me know if this is my fault. If so, I will accept it without issue and simply watch my P's and Q's from now on.
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@winstonwolfe ·
And for the love of all that is potentially holy, I'm not trying to bank on false information.
So if it turns out my assumption is not correct, I will be glad to figure something out. I don't want to lose the trust of the community because I put the cart before the horse.
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@winstonwolfe ·
If this is the case, then if there is any way you would be willing to unflag it I have a plan for the earnings in which I keep exactly NONE of it, and I think the community will be happy with it as well. I don't want to earn a single penny since my article is not correct. I plan on staying  here, and I do not want to lose the trust of the community by keeping money that I don't have the right to keep.
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@anduweb ·
$0.87
It could be a bug and further analysis is suggested. if possible.
Specific example:
in the past 24h I had:
- 3 posts
- 5 total edits of those posts

One of the posts that had it's payout a few minutes ago had a value of over 900$ before the Payout, total Payout was 344.352 SBD and 0.432M VESTS. Now the post is showing 688$. It's a difference of over 200$.
This is the post: https://steemit.com/steemit/@anduweb/billboards-nah-i-rented-the-top-banner-space-on-one-of-the-most-renowned-blogs-in-romania
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@pfunk ·
This is due to the **pending payout** displaying total post rewards, including curation, and the **post-payout** total displayed being only the author reward. It's confusing and needs a change, but it's not due to top-level post penalties.
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@bendjmiller222 ·
Yes! Shouldn't we also be aware that an edit was made? If this is already the case, then I may have missed it, but what's to say as a joke someone switches from a thoughtful post to an nsfw or similar post that you would not wish to have your name associated with and reputation tarnished. I'm not entirely sure how the blockchain handles that or if you simply have to go back and remove comments and remove your upvote. This is even more true of comments. Once someone comments on your comment you cannot completely delete your comment, only change it. And someone could completely change what they have said to troll someone else and make them look bad. As far as I know, edits do not show up in the blockchain like on steemd.com correct me if I am wrong.
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@michaelx ·
It does as of now still appear to affect edits.
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@thecryptofiend ·
Yes that should be removed.  Sometimes you have to edit to correct inaccuracies or based on new information.  We are already limited on this by the 12 hour rule.  Limiting it still further is going to cause a lot of problems.
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
In the 24 hours during that post's lifetime, I only had a few other posts I made. I concentrated on that one because it was getting so much attention. 
I hope I'm wrong about the whole thing, honestly, because editing (even in unreasonable clusters) is kind of important to me...and evidently to others.
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@winstonwolfe ·
@dantheman - I would like to avoid downvotes from the whales if at all possible. 
If this whole thing turns out to be my fault, I have a great plan with the earnings which I think will be awesome for the community here. I will keep exactly ZERO % of it.
My goal is to not lose community trust. And I would hate for that to happen because I simply put the cart before the horse.
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@abit ·
I'll revoke my down-vote if you corrected the info in the post. IMO a misleading post doesn't worth high payout. Please don't take it personal. Thanks.

By the way, you can set the maximum payout of this post to a lower value even zero, probably can only be done in CLI though, but I think many people here can help.
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@pfunk ·
I think you should not be rewarded because plenty of people read this post over the last 15 hours and probably won't read it again. Make further inquiries before posting misinformation.
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@darkb4dawn · (edited)
Hey man, I feel your pain and the resulting confusion. This is an open public forum. People are going to say all sorts of things that later they wish they hadn't.  I think people can forgive you immediately and note that it could be them next. At least you are NOT faking posts and writing posts about how steemit sucks. You were just freaked out by the $$$ signs, happens to nearly EVERYONE. You are not the Dali Lama, and do not need to be. Peace friend! And I am going Follow you, you have deep integrity man, I know it!
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@dennygalindo ·
Wow I always post with out picture and go back and edit the picture in. I also always see about 4 typos per post 4 edits ouch
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@deviedev ·
Right, like I can spell things right on the first try. I can barely function as a human being.
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@dnsz ·
Thank you for the info.
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@endaksi1 ·
Does this apply to replies aswell?
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@winstonwolfe ·
I'm going to assume not, because comments do not alter the original post, and appear as comments/replies in your steemd.com/@username profile.
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@ervin-lemark ·
Thanks for letting us know. I will wait for your test and report. I hope that it will come out OK for you, though :)
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@ervin-lemark ·
I am glad that you sorted it out. 

I am also glad that the dilemma is settled. 

# We can edit :)
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@fundurian ·
i want some too thanks
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@fyrstikken ·
$0.34
Hello @winstonwolfe - so Editing does not mess with the post-count... finally a straight answer. thank you.
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@winstonwolfe ·
No problem. Sorry to worry everyone. Not my intention, won't happen again.
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@greenhatter ·
This helps a ton! Thanks a lot. I have been wondering the same thing as I have seen some of my post amounts drop in size recently. A shame, but I can see the reason for this. Now that I know it will be a lot easier to not make the same mistake. Thanks a ton my friend. I greatly appreciate this little tidbit of knowledge. Mucho gratzie!
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@winstonwolfe ·
I guess we'll find out for sure if I'm correct. According to some of the comments I'm seeing here, and considering dantheman's comment, if I'm right it could be a bug. If I'm wrong, then I'm sorry for this post.
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@grolelo ·
I heard about the "4 posts a day limit" in passing, didn't really know what it meant - that's for the explanation, very good to know!
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@hannahp ·
thanks for the post, I have found that sometimes my photos do not show properly when I have submitted my posts so I then have to edit and retry. Does this effect me as well?
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
If this is correct, then possibly.
The more I read through my comments here, though, and also considering @dantheman 's comment here about how it's a bug if this IS true... I'm hoping it's either a bug, or that I'm just plain wrong.
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@hannahp ·
haha well lets hope so! thanks for the reply
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@hanshotfirst ·
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/af/82/eb/af82eb1524bd7aa29c73b1ea3bf7130c.jpg
Wish Lucas had seen this post before he decided to edit the original trilogy. Seriously I hope this works out for you.
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@lordvader ·
http://www.notenoughnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/Star-Wars-Continuity.jpg

Agreed
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@iamwne ·
I really love steemit in a lot of ways. It has brought me back to writing after a long hiatus. There is too much to keep up with in the way of changes that may or may not be obvious. You may or may not see the updates. I know why they are trying to limit the posts but for honest content generators who are trying to get by on participation in the system it is pretty limiting. Also the thing with edits is a bit problematic. I think you do have to sort of forget about the money. Which is odd on a platform tide to a revenue system. It seems to negate the very reason that the platform exists. New users have way to much of a learning curve and I think we could loose lots of people.
👍  , ,
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@winstonwolfe ·
That's okay. Think of that learning curve to be a filter which filters in only the determined ones.
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@iamwne ·
True but that has not stopped frivolous posts and it is not really "social" for a social network.
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@illlefr4u ·
nice article. Dont know about "rule 4 posts". Thanks.
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@isaac.asimov ·
Flesch Kincaid Grade Level
Hi! This post has a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch%E2%80%93Kincaid_readability_tests">Flesch-Kincaid</a> grade level of 7.4 and reading ease of 72%. This puts the writing level on par with Tom Clancy and F. Scott Fitzgerald.
👎  , ,
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@ashbyis ·
This guy just posted on all of my new stuff too seems like a bot to me.
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@karenmckersie ·
Thanks for the info! I too am guilty of editing , ALOT! usually its because i dont like how it looks once its posted! I like to tweak it, make it fit and look better!
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@gainingsteem ·
@karenmckersie I am the same way!
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@kevinwong ·
What,  I edit at least 20 times each post lol this is alarming. Thanks for the heads up dude!
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@kindza8 ·
Thank you for information.
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@kristylynn ·
SNAP! I made a bunch of edits on a post today. That means I am way over my 24 hour limit... :( Noooo!! Sometimes when you post and image or something doesn't post correctly (usually my fault) but then I have to fix the link or something. Hopefully there will be another solution for this soon. However it is good that you can't just spam post! Thanks so much @winstonwolfe
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@winstonwolfe ·
Hang tight on accepting this post as fact. I'm using this post as a test to see what happens at the time of payout. I will report back with results when I know them. Got about another 3 hours.
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@kristylynn ·
Ok awesome :)
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@lichtblick ·
Thanks for sharing your experience. Very helpful information.
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@liondani ·
$1.86
Are comments count as "new posts"? If I make 20 comments will the rewards get split with my posts?
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@minion ·
$0.45
No comments don't undergo any kind of penalty. You can post/edit them as much as you want.
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@najoh ·
I hope not, i comment a lot. If yes, then i will only comment top posts in the future...
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@winstonwolfe ·
I'm going to guess not, because it does not alter the original post and in steemd.com appears as a comment, not a authored post
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@thecryptofiend ·
I hope comments don't count.  I always reply to comments as a matter of courtesy because I think it is a way of saying thanks to people who have made the effort.
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@mahekg ·
LOL. You still don't know the reason.
Whatever you are making and spreading is baseless and untrue.
I'll give you the correct reason on why this is happening.
The amount written on the post is the total value of the post that is it includes the rewards of both author as well as voters as well as people who have commented.

No matter if u edit or not you will be rewarded less after deducting above charges.

Hope this helps
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@winstonwolfe ·
Actually, I hope I'm wrong. I need to be able to edit, just as a bunch of people here say they need to as well.
It's just interesting how a post with over $1250 only paid out $143. I understand you don't ever get what the full amount shows, but that's an 85% drop. That's a HUGE drop.
Tell you what, though, looks like this thread is going to give me the perfect opportunity to test my theory.
I'm not going to touch it, and I'm not going to post anything else today. If the payout comes out in a similar fashion, then c'est la vie.
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
It was really a matter of deduction based on this information *(which is available as a pop-up when you hover over your thread in the "Next Cashout" column of the "Posts" section of steemstats.com)*, the 85% drop shouldn't have occurred. After doing all the research I could on the subject, and checking out all of the history as it  was recorded to my http://steemd.com/@winstonwolfe profile, there are no other reasons that I can surmise why this would occur. If there is an unseen reason, I would need to be informed of that.

http://i.imgur.com/hP33E7C.png
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@winstonwolfe ·
Another thing I just thought of as well, the total amount made on the post is still at that 85% dropped rate. If the culprit was the dividing of the earnings, the original amount of $1250 would still be visible on that post. It's not. So what got divided was that final number which appears there now - so EVERYONE involved with that thread got shorted, not just me.
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@mguy808 ·
IMHO. This shit has to stop!
 I myself lost $ from my post Trying Death With DMT
does editing or deleting comments add to the problem????
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@winstonwolfe ·
I'm going to assume not, because - so far as I've seen - only edits appear the same as a newly authored post when you view that activity in your http://steemd.com/@username profile.
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@minion · (edited)
This is a possibility, I'm sorry if I'm wrong. But. Maybe you don't know the following:

- You make a post it makes 100$ within 24 hrs *Edit* In 12 Hours NOT 24!

After 24 hrs in separate payouts (You don't get one big payout that, gives you your SD and SP) you will get paid out. 
This may take even more than 24 Hrs depending on how well the miners do their job and how many transactions are being made (the awesome dudes that process all these transactions)
You might not know but your earnings from a post will be split in two: Steem Power and Steem Dollars and there is a second payout now that occurs one month after the post is posted.

But If I'm wrong, and editing does count as "new post" I'm in the same basket as you as I also tend to edit after I post....
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
I thought about that, actually. The thing is, if you look at the original post, the total amount shown is $143. In the very second just before payout occurred *(I was watching because I was going to take a screen shot of it to show my wife)*, the amount dropped by 85% to $190 (as it now shows in steemstats.com). That $190 amount is what everyone involved got paid from, of which I received $143, which was my 75% cut. So I don't think what you're suggesting is the case, because all the posts I've seen which have made thousands - or even tens of thousands - still show that high dollar amount next to the post itself.
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@minion · (edited)
Ah man yeah my assumption was that somehow u didn't know the above mentioned, but you do, that means the "edit" thing is true or not? We really need a clarification on this problem, For now I'm not going to edit my posts until'l we get a clarification.
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@minion · (edited)
[Mistake - Edited] The assumption I made was wrong, I am sorry for that. @anonimau5 posted the correct answer.
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@pfunk ·
Nope. This is not what that means. It's the portion of total curation rewards that will be donated to the author from voters who voted within 30 minutes of the post being made.
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@minion ·
@pfunk What? Please clarify a bit more, This topic is important! What does it mean than if it's very low? Yo seem like you know what your talking about? please reply asap.
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@winstonwolfe ·
Thank you for posting this. I'm glad to see we may have identified a bug.
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@minion ·
Thank you to for bringing awareness to this, If there wasn't for you no one would've known about this problem!
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@msjennifer · (edited)
Great post!
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@najoh ·
$1.79
I got the exact same problem, 190 USD became 100 USD because i edited the post a few times to correct grammar.
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@nelu.ceban ·
go go go :)
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@nenad-ristic ·
$0.14
Sorry you had to go through this... In my opinion, edits should not count as a second post, anyway, seems counter-intuitive.
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@orca ·
Thanks,cool post)
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@pabitel ·
On the bright side, you more than made up the loss with this post. :)
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@winstonwolfe ·
Well, at this point my day is going to be an experimental one. I plan on leaving this post here, I'm not going to touch it at all aside from replying to comments, I'm not going to post any other posts today at all, and then in 9 more hours when it pays out I'll see what happens.
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@rainchen ·
That not a bugs like some other dude tell us ! Fork him forkkkkk !
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@rikrdo · (edited)
oh man! I just stoped editing all my post and panicked hahaha oooohhh that means I could have edit with more content.. I'll start right now.. thanks for the update tho!
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@rnobrega ·
well, you learned the lesson the hard way. so keep it up, and search for perfect content before posting
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@scaredycatguide ·
@winstonwolfe, somehow I just finally saw this.  I read the original post and have been "playing safe" with my edits and posts.   Glad to see that it's not the case.

Thanks you for posting the update so we know.   It shows integrity after seeing your initial research was not correct.

You posted a theory to be analyzed based on info you saw.  I don't believe that should be condemned.   Thanks again.
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@sean-king ·
Oh wow.  Good to know.  I had no idea!
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@lukestokes ·
$2.94
Just replying so you see the update, Sean. Turns out you can edit away just fine.
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@sean-king ·
Great news!
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@sigmajin · (edited)
Maybe its worth while to have a monthly  chatter thread for like jokes and photography and such?  Or have certain tags immune from the limit.  I get why the limit was put in in the first place, but nothing about the posting behavior exhibited by OP seems harmful or disruptive....

At the end of the day, OP posted a bunch of appropriately tagged lc stuff like photos and jokes that didnt make a lot of money, and a longer post that he put some thought into...  It isnt as though he was shotgunning and got lucky....
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@winstonwolfe ·
Perhaps, but I'm not going to keep money dishonestly. I'm not that guy.
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@sigmajin · (edited)
sure... its actually really high class that youre giving away the rewards on this one...   im just saying for the future, some mechanism for posting relatively lc stuff without tanking your rewards for a well-thought out post might be a good idea....

The target of the new policy was people who spammed a lot of short, LC posts at the whole board to try to get lucky....  given the way you tagged your photo posts, its clear that wasn't your intention... the kind of posts you had there aren't necessarily something that its desirable to discourage.
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@sjt10369 ·
$0.63
Why isn't there a way to save a post as a draft? I think the ability to work on a post, save it as a draft, be able to view what it will publish as and go back to edit it BEFORE a live publish would be the best way to solve a lot of issues that I know I'm having and probably not the only person.
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@winstonwolfe ·
I can get behind this. Even Wordpress has this.
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@sjt10369 ·
That was my thought. When posting online in a blogging fashion most if not all platforms have this basic feature.
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@stea90 ·
Very well, but if nothing is done here, is what will happen to steemit: Read this is very important https://steemit.com/steem/@stea90/read-very-important-why-the-market-volume-and-value-of-steem-continue-to-decrease-what-will-happen
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@stellabelle ·
thanks for this! I didn't know!
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@winstonwolfe ·
Honestly, @stellabelle - I hope it's either a fixable bug, or that I'm wrong. I need to be able to edit.
dantheman said that if this is true, it's a bug. I'm going to hold off any further judgment, refrain from further posts and editing, and wait for payout to see what happens.
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@stellabelle · (edited)
Dan will fix this, hopefully. That is not a good feature because good writers are notorious for editing. I have stopped my ocd with editing though...are you sure about this???? oh yeah, before the hardfork i edited a lot. now i don't....
👍  
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@sulev ·
The preview doesn't show faults. I had half my post missing because of a code error. I had to edit. What this site needs is a real PREVIEW window. Or maybe, let's have the option to upload our post, but have an separate "publish" button, So we can edit our post for as long as we want before publishing.
I didn't know either edits count as posts... basically I have already posted 4 times today according to that, although I only have 1 post. Thanks Steemit! /sarc
But thanks @winstonwolfe for letting me and the community know!
Upvoted!
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@sunking ·
And it's even worse :)
Not sure this happened to anyone else - but when I posted about the release of my [Android Widget for Steem](https://steemit.com/steem/@sunking/tired-of-checking-the-steem-price-here-is-steemery-the-android-widget-for-steems), I noticed a typo right after posting. So I hit "edit" to fix it and upon saving all my markdown/html was f***ed up. It took me about 10 attempts of edit&save before I had figured out how to fix it.
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@winstonwolfe ·
As it turns out, this information was incorrect. I'm sorry for the scare. :(
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@sykochica ·
Glad it all got worked out and what happened. Great info for us all to know!
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@taoofsatoshi ·
Thank you for that valuable piece of information that will help this Steemit newb.
👍  
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@winstonwolfe ·
Glad I could help. :)
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@thebluepanda ·
oh you wrote another post. If a whale upvotes more than 20 times, its weight vote decreases dramatically.
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@themax37 ·
My upvote is worth  $ 0.0019346420935205. Sorry to disappoint.
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@themax37 ·
I think what I'll do is use a program like Dreamweaver beforehand and then check for mistakes. That way I can fix the post more effectively and thanks for the warning.
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@therealnivok ·
So, you are saying you are OK with losing nearly 90% of your revenue because you edited your post?

It seems ludicrous that editing a post will be punished so harshly, seems stupid that edited posts jump to the top of the active list.  You're making it too easy for them, you have been conned into thinking you were earning over a thousand dollars and you got a small fraction of earnings stated at the bottom of your post, it's all a bit deceptive isn't it?
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@najoh ·
It is, i also got rewarded only 100 USD instead of 190 USD, i edited my post 5 or 6 times to correct some grammar.
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@therealnivok ·
I think the gig will soon be up for this site, I'm guessing the real reason payouts are way lower than it appears is because the devs are cashing out our money.  Enough articles have been written exposing the scam that this is, just google  'is Steemit a scam'  plenty of evidence that the devs are making loads of money, the economy is unsustainable, the voting system is rigged etc.  No rebuttals from the devs, they just seem to be dumping all their Steem stock before it becomes valueless.  We got well and truly ripped off by these people and going into denial about it ain't gonna get our money back ever.
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@winstonwolfe ·
I am, because the site is new, and also because I didn't put in one single dime to get this started. I didn't "lose" anything. And to be perfectly honestly right now I'm *definitely* okay with it because this thread only had $13 on it when I went to sleep last night.
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@trending ·
Thank you for sharing, I did not know about this. I will avoid editing from now on.
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@winstonwolfe ·
Hang tight on considering this to be fact. I'm using this post as a test to see what the payout brings.
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@veralynn ·
I, too, am guilty of this. Thank you for the information!
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
A big fat THANK YOU to @psygot for helping me figure this out.
My assumption for why it happens with edits is because a post gets bumped back to the top of the Active pages when it's edited. This makes it more visible, and thus would be advantageous for spammers.
👍  , ,
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@stealthtrader ·
Nice call out bro.. and I edit a lot too so this is good to know!

Thanks dude :D
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@wisehammer ·
Seems like you got rewarded properly for your mistake, mate.
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@winstonwolfe ·
We'll find out, I suppose. I'm going to reserve judgment until this thread's payout.
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